Topic: [HAVELOCK] (HIF) Havelock Investments Fund - page 13. (Read 70071 times)

Quote from: crumbs on November 26, 2013, 06:48:00 PM

Quote from: jimmothy on November 26, 2013, 06:57:30 PM

The first one won't last a year. It's doing the mistakes of the last two closed ones, but worse.

This one isn't located in the US. Big difference. US proved to be most hostile country towards BTC so far. Those 2 exchanges received cease and desist letters from US authorities.

BTCT was registered in Belize, Bitfunder in Australia.
I could register a corporation in Panama without ever touching foreign soil.
What you are talking about?

Guys running them were US citizens and US residents. That's what I'm talking about.

No crumbs you cannot become a registered exchange in panama unless you are a panama citizen with $25000 capital and can fill out the shitload of forms/deal with legal compliance.

Ukyo and burnside were US citizens running unregistered exchanges. If you can't see the difference between havelock and btct.co/bitfunder I'm afraid there is nothing we can do do convince you. Your mind is already made up and no amount of responding to your conspiracy theories will do anything.

A registered exchange? You were given a name of a Panamanian shelf company, not a registered exchange. Why would i want to register an exchange if you're perfectly happy with a name of a (virtually free) shelf registration? Who bleeds money like that to rope in a handfool of suckers?

Private funds do exist. If you think its a shelf you should call them and ask about their operation. Surely you would find more proof than sitting on your ass internet sleuthing.

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Quote from: crumbs on November 26, 2013, 06:48:00 PM

Quote from: crumbs on November 26, 2013, 06:53:29 PM

The first one won't last a year. It's doing the mistakes of the last two closed ones, but worse.

This one isn't located in the US. Big difference. US proved to be most hostile country towards BTC so far. Those 2 exchanges received cease and desist letters from US authorities.

BTCT was registered in Belize, Bitfunder in Australia.
I could register a corporation in Panama without ever touching foreign soil.
What you are talking about?

Guys running them were US citizens and US residents. That's what I'm talking about.

No crumbs you cannot become a registered exchange in panama unless you are a panama citizen with $25000 capital and can fill out the shitload of forms/deal with legal compliance.

Ukyo and burnside were US citizens running unregistered exchanges. If you can't see the difference between havelock and btct.co/bitfunder I'm afraid there is nothing we can do do convince you. Your mind is already made up and no amount of responding to your conspiracy theories will do anything.

A registered exchange? You were given a name of a Panamanian shelf company, not a registered exchange. Why would i want to register an exchange if you're perfectly happy with a name of a (virtually free) shelf registration? Who bleeds money like that to rope in a handful of suckers?

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Quote from: crumbs on November 26, 2013, 06:48:00 PM

Quote from: crumbs on November 26, 2013, 06:53:29 PM

The first one won't last a year. It's doing the mistakes of the last two closed ones, but worse.

This one isn't located in the US. Big difference. US proved to be most hostile country towards BTC so far. Those 2 exchanges received cease and desist letters from US authorities.

BTCT was registered in Belize, Bitfunder in Australia.
I could register a corporation in Panama without ever touching foreign soil.
What you are talking about?

Guys running them were US citizens and US residents. That's what I'm talking about.

See my edit above.
Havelock is a Canadian company, it is no more Panamanian then BTCT was Belizean or Bitfunder Australian, unless you have dox to the contrary.
Do you?

*If i ran an exchange, i'd certainly pay some guy with a net connection in some backwater country to front for me.

Again trying to mislead. Havelocks physical location has moved to panama and the team has merged with the new owners/team at tpf sa. You have no idea about these guys because you have never called them and learn about their operation. Instead you use google/internet sleuthing skills to create fud.

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Quote from: crumbs on November 26, 2013, 06:48:00 PM

The first one won't last a year. It's doing the mistakes of the last two closed ones, but worse.

This one isn't located in the US. Big difference. US proved to be most hostile country towards BTC so far. Those 2 exchanges received cease and desist letters from US authorities.

BTCT was registered in Belize, Bitfunder in Australia.
I could register a corporation in Panama without ever touching foreign soil.
What you are talking about?

Guys running them were US citizens and US residents. That's what I'm talking about.

See my edit above.
Havelock is a Canadian company, it is no more Panamanian then BTCT was Belizean or Bitfunder Australian, unless you have dox to the contrary.
Do you?

*If i ran an exchange, i'd certainly pay some guy with a net connection in some backwater country to front for me.

I was talking about btct.co and Bitfunder.

However, things get complicated for everyone when it comes to accepting US investors. This is why many banks from Switzerland for example and many other places just refuse to take US customers these days.

See for eg Peter Schiff's bank http://europacbank.com/ See what disclaimer says there?

"This Website is intended for the use of NON United States or Eastern Caribbean States citizens or residents."

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Quote from: crumbs on November 26, 2013, 06:48:00 PM

The first one won't last a year. It's doing the mistakes of the last two closed ones, but worse.

This one isn't located in the US. Big difference. US proved to be most hostile country towards BTC so far. Those 2 exchanges received cease and desist letters from US authorities.

BTCT was registered in Belize, Bitfunder in Australia.
I could register a corporation in Panama without ever touching foreign soil.
What you are talking about?

Guys running them were US citizens and US residents. That's what I'm talking about.

No crumbs you cannot become a registered exchange in panama unless you are a panama citizen with $25000 capital and can fill out the shitload of forms/deal with legal compliance.

Ukyo and burnside were US citizens running unregistered exchanges. If you can't see the difference between havelock and btct.co/bitfunder I'm afraid there is nothing we can do do convince you. Your mind is already made up and no amount of responding to your conspiracy theories will do anything.

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Quote from: crumbs on November 26, 2013, 06:48:00 PM

Quote from: crumbs on November 26, 2013, 06:48:00 PM

The first one won't last a year. It's doing the mistakes of the last two closed ones, but worse.

This one isn't located in the US. Big difference. US proved to be most hostile country towards BTC so far. Those 2 exchanges received cease and desist letters from US authorities.

BTCT was registered in Belize, Bitfunder in Australia.
I could register a corporation in Panama without ever touching foreign soil.
What you are talking about?

Guys running them were US citizens and US residents. That's what I'm talking about.

See my edit above.
Havelock is a Canadian company, it is no more Panamanian then BTCT was Belizean or Bitfunder Australian, unless you have dox to the contrary.
Do you?

*If i ran an exchange, i'd certainly pay some guy with a net connection in some backwater country to front for me.

Herp

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Activity: 294

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The first one won't last a year. It's doing the mistakes of the last two closed ones, but worse.

This one isn't located in the US. Big difference. US proved to be most hostile country towards BTC so far. Those 2 exchanges received cease and desist letters from US authorities.

BTCT was registered in Belize, Bitfunder in Australia.
I could register a corporation in Panama without ever touching foreign soil.
What you are talking about?

Guys running them were US citizens and US residents. That's what I'm talking about.

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Quote from: jimmothy on November 26, 2013, 06:39:05 PM

The first one won't last a year. It's doing the mistakes of the last two closed ones, but worse.

This one isn't located in the US. Big difference. US proved to be most hostile country towards BTC so far. Those 2 exchanges received cease and desist letters from US authorities.

BTCT was registered in Belize, Bitfunder in Australia.
I could register a corporation in Panama without ever touching foreign soil.
What you are talking about?
*Havelock, AFAIK, is a Canadian company -- i was invited to visit them at some semi-abandoned strip mall in Canada.

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The first one won't last a year. It's doing the mistakes of the last two closed ones, but worse.

This one isn't located in the US. Big difference. US proved to be most hostile country towards BTC so far. Those 2 exchanges received cease and desist letters from US authorities.

Source?

Afaik we have no idea why btct.co or bitfunder shut down. Although all things point towards SEC.

I think Burnside's posts (owner of btct.co and litecoinglobal) were pretty explicit in that sense. He made it pretty clear he was threatened by the authorities but didn't go into details. We know he was US based and so was Ukyo and his Bitfunder.

Shut down of btct.co and litecoinglobal worked almost perfectly for all the shareholders. Burnside has been very honest every step of the way. He auctioned the website code but not sure who bought it.

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The first one won't last a year. It's doing the mistakes of the last two closed ones, but worse.

This one isn't located in the US. Big difference. US proved to be most hostile country towards BTC so far. Those 2 exchanges received cease and desist letters from US authorities.

Source?

Afaik we have no idea why btct.co or bitfunder shut down. Although all things point towards SEC.

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Activity: 294

Merit: 250