Pages:
Author

Topic: [HAVELOCK] PETAMINE - 1,150 TH/S HASH RATE (1GH/S per Unit) - page 70. (Read 565833 times)

member
Activity: 113
Merit: 10
Perpetual optimism is a force multiplier.
It's important to note that the "bitcoin' world for investors is volatile in general, so it's to no surprise that bitcoin based investments are indeed volatile themselves. To top it off investing in a bitcoin market with bitcoin as a means of currency add's to the volatility. AND to top that off if it's not volatile enough... invest in a mining company of bitcoin in at a stage in time where mining bitcoin is incredibly difficult.

I don't know about you guys, but PETA is still doing a great job despite all these odds. If you know any better Bitcoin investment, especially a mining investment of bitcoin... let me know. Stay positive! The cryptx team is not about to let the company fall. Slow and careful development is key. If they can expand quick they will, if things don't go as planned (as they have)... oh well.... then re-planning is in order.  
legendary
Activity: 1092
Merit: 1001
Touchdown
It woud look better if cryptx would start pumping the amount of PH/s, but they are probably to busy watching the electricity meter.

They own 1,187% of the network, almost 50% less than what they promised, wich is reflected in the share price.
It's like a mouse running after a piece of cheese attached to a stick on his back hanging in front of him.
You have been prolific since you sold your shares. Not one post before that. Roll Eyes

And I thought you were bad in the Wall Observer thread. Undecided
sr. member
Activity: 434
Merit: 250
It woud look better if cryptx would start pumping the amount of PH/s, but they are probably to busy watching the electricity meter.

They own 1,187% of the network, almost 50% less than what they promised, wich is reflected in the share price.
It's like a mouse running after a piece of cheese attached to a stick on his back hanging in front of him.
full member
Activity: 237
Merit: 100
legendary
Activity: 1092
Merit: 1001
Touchdown
How much do trolling contracts pay nowadays?

(Evidently more than pumping contracts. Grin)
hero member
Activity: 630
Merit: 500
sr. member
Activity: 434
Merit: 250
Right. New investors for 6.33 got 1th for 3.76, and gave a 'gift' of 2.56 to previous investors.

This gift is needed to get out with your pants on or make sure the first investors keep promoting the mine. If it had a viable business plan this gift would not have been necessary.
sr. member
Activity: 434
Merit: 250
Somebody can still dump 289 shares and then we've basically hit 0, making the succesrate of the next NEEDED IPO 0%
hero member
Activity: 630
Merit: 500
Right. New investors for 6.33 got 1th for 3.76, and gave a 'gift' of 2.56 to previous investors.
legendary
Activity: 980
Merit: 1040
Or did you mean the price IPO was for - 0.095 BTC for 15GH ?

Thats what I meant, since that is what IPO investors got for their money.

Quote
Edit: I wonder where the difference ended: 6.33 (IPO)- 3.76(actual purchase) = 2.57 btc/th?

If Im not mistaken, thats what "rescued" previous investors who bought in at 0.05 but saw their hashrate increase significantly thanks to the new investors.
hero member
Activity: 630
Merit: 500
What's left to do is sell all hardware, but cryptx doesn't even manages that at a propper level.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.7253218

Ouch!

Also of note, ~1.6 BTC/TH resale value. Remember the last IPO was for 6.5 BTC/ TH not even a month ago, current bond price represents ~4.2 BTC/TH minus the loan..

I think I sufficiently proved my point by now. Best of luck to those who didnt get out yet.
I do respect every opinion in this thread, but just a little correction here, it was 3.76 btc/th:
Quote
The money that is raised at the IPO will go to the purchase of 1000 TH/s of mining equipment, which costs about 3,760 BTC. Financial breakdown to deploy 1PH/s:
Cost: 3,760 BTC
Income:
                * 33,794 shares at IPO: 3,313 BTC
                * Current reinvestment funds: 150 BTC
                * Mining revenue (16-31 May): 300 BTC

Or did you mean the price IPO was for - 0.095 BTC for 15GH ?

Edit: I wonder where the difference ended: 6.33 (IPO)- 3.76(actual purchase) = 2.57 btc/th?
full member
Activity: 237
Merit: 100
Well done sir, 1.65BTC came from me  Grin enjoy the donation

 Grin
I bought some icecream thanks
legendary
Activity: 980
Merit: 1040
What's left to do is sell all hardware, but cryptx doesn't even manages that at a propper level.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.7253218

Ouch!

Also of note, ~1.6 BTC/TH resale value. Remember the last IPO was for 6.5 BTC/ TH not even a month ago, current bond price represents ~4.2 BTC/TH minus the loan..

I think I sufficiently proved my point by now. Best of luck to those who didnt get out yet.
sr. member
Activity: 434
Merit: 250
Well done sir, 1.65BTC came from me  Grin enjoy the donation
full member
Activity: 237
Merit: 100
Was in it from the beginning, made about 15 BTC or a  bit more. Lucky me.
sr. member
Activity: 434
Merit: 250
Selling all your shares is no real viable option anymore, just hope that you:

1) Made it out already with some profit
2) Made it out with break-even
3) Made it out with a loss you can live with
4) Hope that by some wonder they pull it off to raise money from whatever investor, so giving you a chance to get to shore

I picked option 3, because I had no hope for option 4, my own mistake for keeping my pink sunglasses on and buying in, STUPID STUPID ME.

They could have spiked the price share a bit more by some good PR on the whole ghash/p2pool thing, but I think they realized that it's best not to draw too much attention to a dying corpse.
full member
Activity: 237
Merit: 100
What's left to do is sell all hardware, but cryptx doesn't even manages that at a propper level.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.7253218

I'm almost out of this sinking ship. It was a fun ride but atm it's getting nowhere.




sr. member
Activity: 434
Merit: 250
I don't care if anybody sells or not, I'm also not trying to save anyone. Everybody makes his own decisions. Smiley

Cheaper electricity and bulk prices are a valid point, but then they should atleast make sure that they can keep up and maintain the value of the shares.

As I see it... "IPO 1500TH - 2% of worldwide hashpower"

-Are there 1500TH? NO
-Have they got still 2%? NO
-Will they have enough reinvestemt fund to get back to 2%? Probably NO
-Has the share kept it's value? NO
-Will there be an oppurtunity for a few to still get out at 0.08-0.095? Perhaps
-Will all 77400 shares have an oppurtunity to get out at 0.08-0095 or 0.05? NO

So what is there left to do? Another IPO and hoping that they sell enough shares, hoping that by the time they install the hardware they didn't lost another 0.5% of the network, getting back to 1.5 instead of 2%. The IPO will create some buzz and oppurtunities for a few to get out with a nice profit.

The more GH, the more money cryptx makes, not counting the miners that are paid by investors and are running only for them. Who knows what deal they actually made 4000 or 3900$ gives room for a few free ASICS. Can anyone really know this? It could just be that they aren't as energy efficient as on paper.

But "Hey Jack" I could be wrong.

But 1 thing I'm certain of, cryptx, they are no fools and they figured it out in a clever way.
legendary
Activity: 980
Merit: 1040
also to thread owner for letting people put their opinions and not deleting them. Wink

Have to +1 that. As much as I think this is a toxic asset, I cant fault the issuer, he has been acting exemplary IMO.
Id be happy to invest in some future cryptx venture if it has a business plan I  believe in.
legendary
Activity: 1092
Merit: 1001
Touchdown
They have to prove that they can keep paying dividend, invest enough in new hardware to keep up with the increase in hasrate and difficulty, WITHOUT doing IPO's again and again. The IPO is to bring in additional money to get back ahead of the increase in difficulty, it is the proof itself that reinvesting isn't enough. Them giving a loan is no real incentive from their part, because they know that the loan will get paid back either way.
The second IPO opened up economies of scale (cheaper energy costs, bulk buying, etc). We're replacing older mining equipment with new, which might not have been cost effective without growing the mine.

We get it, you saw the light and sold your shares -- that was the right decision for you. But now what? Are you really just here to convince people to sell? By all means, chip in as and when people seek advice, but there are still shareholders (rightly or wrongly) and people with genuine interest that want to discuss Peta without the constant barage of trolling.
Pages:
Jump to: