HD5970 new in stock newegg 499$ ! - page 2.

Sabi

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Quote from: fcmatt on September 01, 2011, 03:15:08 PM

So, are the people buying 500 dollars cards happy with their purchase when the trend for the BTC
price seems to be pointing in only one direction? As in down...

(And please do not mention solidcoins... I am going to guess that is not profitable as it was).

Basically my point is.. are you doing this for fun and giggles or to make some money in a reasonable
amount of time? Because the ROI on this card is getting out there. 4.5 months (143 days) lets say with a btc
price of 8-8.50 and free electricity/time/cooling. If you have to pay for electricity is gets a lot worse.
.08 kWh, lets say, which is cheap, stretches out the pay off date to 200 days.. so after a year of mining
it with no downtime or screw ups you can make 176 bucks.. and that is still cutting off details like exchange
fees, cooling, hardware failure, internet failure, etc..

I am not being a prick. I actually thought about buying a couple of these but the math is just not making
sense. Too many assumptions have to be made.

What say you?

I have to heat an addition to my home that I have to heat this winter that I usually use a 3000W space heater for. I figured 2 5970s would suffice instead (the heater cycles on and off, the pc will stay on all the time and put out about 800W of heat). In essence, my electricity is free since I would have used the power anyway to heat the space. The cold months here last from Sept to March, so I figured in that time the cards would pay for themselves, and I would have 2 nice cards to game with, continue bitcoin mining, or sell afterwards.

CanaryInTheMine

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between a rock and a block!

so, i have mixed experience so far with these cards... got 4. 3 seem to be working OK but not

it seems one of them will not change the stock setting from 725 clock on one of the GPUs (the second responds). msiab says 840/300 (what I set it to) but GPU-Z shows stock.
and hashing rate supports stock clock settings...

also, have strange artifacts on one of the cards... going to RMA it.

Question, is it really possible to run 850/300 @ stock voltage on these?

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between a rock and a block!

Quote from: fcmatt on September 01, 2011, 03:15:08 PM

Quote from: Pipesnake on September 01, 2011, 11:23:18 AM

Quote from: abracadabra on August 31, 2011, 10:31:50 PM

ambient room temperature will help immensely. More than anything else you can do.

Agreed. And no case. Temps will go down significantly.

So, are the people buying 500 dollars cards happy with their purchase when the trend for the BTC
price seems to be pointing in only one direction? As in down...

(And please do not mention solidcoins... I am going to guess that is not profitable as it was).

Basically my point is.. are you doing this for fun and giggles or to make some money in a reasonable
amount of time? Because the ROI on this card is getting out there. 4.5 months (143 days) lets say with a btc
price of 8-8.50 and free electricity/time/cooling. If you have to pay for electricity is gets a lot worse.
.08 kWh, lets say, which is cheap, stretches out the pay off date to 200 days.. so after a year of mining
it with no downtime or screw ups you can make 176 bucks.. and that is still cutting off details like exchange
fees, cooling, hardware failure, internet failure, etc..

I am not being a prick. I actually thought about buying a couple of these but the math is just not making
sense. Too many assumptions have to be made.

What say you?

if you think you can mine for a profit, then you shouldn't mine.
it's too early and all depends on whether bitcoin is adopted and becomes mainstream.
instead, buy bitcoins and hold. maybe you make some money, maybe you won't

mining is still pretty much for fun and something to do with all those spare parts.

the reason i got these cards is to get pretty close to the hashing rate of 6990s and i'm selling back then 6990s to get back $230. that's the reason.

fcmatt

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Quote from: Pipesnake on September 01, 2011, 11:23:18 AM

Quote from: abracadabra on August 31, 2011, 10:31:50 PM

ambient room temperature will help immensely. More than anything else you can do.

Agreed. And no case. Temps will go down significantly.

So, are the people buying 500 dollars cards happy with their purchase when the trend for the BTC
price seems to be pointing in only one direction? As in down...

(And please do not mention solidcoins... I am going to guess that is not profitable as it was).

Basically my point is.. are you doing this for fun and giggles or to make some money in a reasonable
amount of time? Because the ROI on this card is getting out there. 4.5 months (143 days) lets say with a btc
price of 8-8.50 and free electricity/time/cooling. If you have to pay for electricity is gets a lot worse.
.08 kWh, lets say, which is cheap, stretches out the pay off date to 200 days.. so after a year of mining
it with no downtime or screw ups you can make 176 bucks.. and that is still cutting off details like exchange
fees, cooling, hardware failure, internet failure, etc..

I am not being a prick. I actually thought about buying a couple of these but the math is just not making
sense. Too many assumptions have to be made.

What say you?

Pipesnake

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Quote from: abracadabra on August 31, 2011, 10:31:50 PM

ambient room temperature will help immensely. More than anything else you can do.

Agreed. And no case. Temps will go down significantly.

Pipesnake

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Quote from: Sabi on September 01, 2011, 07:28:33 AM

They both run fine at 850/450, 1.162 volts. Temps around 82C, getting about 360 Mhash/s per GPU,

That's way low. You should be closer to 400mh/s

phatk is optimized for cypress core so if you're not using it you need to switch asap.

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Quote from: Sabi on September 01, 2011, 07:28:33 AM

I got both of mine from NewEgg yesterday. No dents, in perfect condition with the extra goodies delivered as well. They both run fine at 850/450, 1.162 volts. Temps around 82C, getting about 360 Mhash/s per GPU, or a bit over 1.4 Ghash/sec total.

Lower your memory to 250, if you have a good card it should lower temps by a couple degrees more so you can turn the fan speed down 5% with MSI Afterburner. Just close Afterburner and restart it to lower even more. At 850 clock you should be getting 380 Mhash/s with the proper drivers. I am using Catalyst 11.6 with SDK 2.4, phoenix miner with -phatk mod. Just set your agression to 12 and up, with fastloop=false your stale shares on this card are an amazingly low .5% (best stale rate I've got)!

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Quote from: Mousepotato on September 01, 2011, 01:27:13 AM

Ok I'm getting 420 MH/s per core now. But the 2nd core gets too hot even with the fan at 100%. Dialed both cores back to 411 MH/s and the 2nd core is at 86C. I guess I can live with that.

Add a fan similar to the one I linked a picture of earlier in front of the vents it'll help pool hot air out of the card and give you a little more room.

Sabi

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I got both of mine from NewEgg yesterday. No dents, in perfect condition with the extra goodies delivered as well. They both run fine at 850/450, 1.162 volts. Temps around 82C, getting about 360 Mhash/s per GPU, or a bit over 1.4 Ghash/sec total.

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Ok I'm getting 420 MH/s per core now. But the 2nd core gets too hot even with the fan at 100%. Dialed both cores back to 411 MH/s and the 2nd core is at 86C. I guess I can live with that.

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damn these are pretty good deals, but i'm running out of slots.

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Quote from: MajorMiner on September 01, 2011, 12:43:22 AM

Quote from: abracadabra on August 31, 2011, 10:30:39 PM

deal at newegg is gone. buy.com has them f0r $597 with a $10 coupon

The original place still has them as well http://www.unityelectronics.com/products/6475/ATI_Radeon_HD_5970_PCI_E_PCI_Express_x16_2GB_GDDR5_2560x1600_Video_Card_Dual_DVI_Mini_Display_Port_102C0000300_New I ordered 3 more.

amazon still has them too!
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005ISV72Y

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Quote from: abracadabra on August 31, 2011, 10:30:39 PM

deal at newegg is gone. buy.com has them f0r $597 with a $10 coupon

The original place still has them as well http://www.unityelectronics.com/products/6475/ATI_Radeon_HD_5970_PCI_E_PCI_Express_x16_2GB_GDDR5_2560x1600_Video_Card_Dual_DVI_Mini_Display_Port_102C0000300_New I ordered 3 more.

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I agree on the no OC. Thank you to those that responded. I tried the suggestions to use Trixx to down clock the memory and OC the GPU. It worked but it only lasts a few hours before the temp causes the card to throttle down. The memory down clock only shaves a few degrees off the temp. Maybe water cooling would work.

lowering the ambient room temperature will help immensely. More than anything else you can do.

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deal at newegg is gone. buy.com has them f0r $597 with a $10 coupon

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Someone is sitting in the shade today...

looks like we have some great OC setup with the 5970 now. guys please post back in a week or two and let us know if you can actually maintain those OC without crashing.

I was able to get to 400MH but after 2-3 days it always freezes the whole computer, same at 350MH.

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Quote from: Mousepotato on August 29, 2011, 05:55:49 PM

I just got mine and was a little shocked at how small the box was that it came in. At first I was like "there's no way this is a 5970, the box is way too small. They must have shipped me something else." So I was kind of panicking while opening the box! But sure enough it was a brand spankin new OEM HD 5970 shoehorned diagonally into the small cardboard box. Apparently it was fit so tight that the mounting bracket was bent on the top and bottom. No biggie since I can just bend it back, but it's something you might want to know about if you're thinking of getting one. It came with a CrossFire cable, DVI plug, and Mini Displayport adapter too. I'm a little disappointed in the packaging and now I'm a little scared to actually try it out!

I just got mine today and had no bent bracket although mine came shipped exactly how you described. I have a rack over it that has a 5830 off to one side and two 120mm fans blowing cold air down onto my 5970, here is a picture of the fan setup:

With 850 MHz clock & 250 MHz memory I am getting 380 GH/s each core with 60% fan and 70C temp (with 88C-90C on VRMs). This is my first 5970 and I must say I love it, great energy efficiency and speed. The only downside is that it shoots out a lot of really hot air and the top board cover can nearly burn your hand it gets so hot. Pretty sure you could use this card as a toaster Cheesy

The deal on Newegg is definitely worth it imo, as long as you blast this card with lots of fans (lowered my VRMs on the second GPU core by 5C by adding the second fan over it. I think once the card burns in 400 MH/s each core is easily obtainable without too high a fan speed.

Btw, I love your mining team Mousepotato (I'm MATT_DAMON, lol).

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Quote from: Beta-coiner1 on August 31, 2011, 08:42:16 PM

^Lol,Don't even think about selling just yet.

I think the 5970's were longer than I anticipated but have barely just enough room in my case for both,but will have to do open case for second PSU though.

whats a case?

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Quote from: abracadabra on August 31, 2011, 09:05:08 PM

i've looked and i haven't found anywhere else.

same seller "unity electronics" is selling them on amazon for 499 but without the $10 coupon.

Guess they are almost gone then. People on the fence should make a decision soon before its too late Tongue

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i've looked and i haven't found anywhere else.

same seller "unity electronics" is selling them on amazon for 499 but without the $10 coupon.

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