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Kuw
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Did you try to run it through the PBKDF2 ?
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what is PBKDF2 ?
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Did you try to run it through the PBKDF2 ?
Kuw
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passphrase :

child shout iron pair row aunt
Interesting... "shout" is not on the BIP39 wordlist, so that rules out these 6 word "passphrases" as being a BIP39 mnemonic of some description. Electrum also used 12 words, not 6... and "row" is not in BIP39 or either the "old" or the "new" Electrum lists... Undecided Huh

I tried different combinations for the "standard" SHA256-type Brainwallet:
child shout iron pair row aunt
Child Shout Iron Pair Row Aunt
CHILD SHOUT IRON PAIR ROW AUNT

and none of them come back to address: 1A9Tp3JjDvyQUtyQYLdDdCqMgK12sVZ238

Tis indeed a bit of a puzzle... Undecided Huh


Does the document that contains this address and 6 word passphrase combination, also have a "global" 12 word mnemonic attached to it? Huh Or are the 12 word mnemonics that you have in a completely different document with different addresses? Huh If there is a 12 word mnemonic, and then the individual addresses have the 6 word passphrase, it's possible that the BASE16 is correct and the 6 word passphrases are "BIP39 passphrases" and you both the 12 word mnemonic + 6 word passphrase to derive the correct private key/address.



the 12 seed in different  txt file
and its only say btc seed
 
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Is it possible that there is one main seed and then depending on password phrases it is possible to generate different target addresses?
Maybe these extra 6 words are 'custom own extra words' in electrum, in addition to 12 official words?

This depends on the used protocol.
At this point it can be several things, but there are also things that can be excluded due to the nature of the provided data so far.

We do not know anything about the compatibility of the words from the mnemonics to the available standard procedures so it is not possible to pin point one exact mechanism at this point in time.
Meaning it's a guessing game still.

It is in the OP's best interest to check the words from the available mnemonics to the suggested word lists to see if this can reveal inclusion or exclusion regarding the identification of the necessary processing mechanism.
Once that has been done its only a matter of inputs and outputs, but without it, it's like trying to shoot a sitting duck, in the dark. Smiley
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Is it possible that there is one main seed and then depending on password phrases it is possible to generate different target addresses?
Maybe these extra 6 words are 'custom own extra words' in electrum, in addition to 12 official words?
HCP
legendary
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passphrase :

child shout iron pair row aunt
Interesting... "shout" is not on the BIP39 wordlist, so that rules out these 6 word "passphrases" as being a BIP39 mnemonic of some description. Electrum also used 12 words, not 6... and "row" is not in BIP39 or either the "old" or the "new" Electrum lists... Undecided Huh

I tried different combinations for the "standard" SHA256-type Brainwallet:
child shout iron pair row aunt
Child Shout Iron Pair Row Aunt
CHILD SHOUT IRON PAIR ROW AUNT

and none of them come back to address: 1A9Tp3JjDvyQUtyQYLdDdCqMgK12sVZ238

Tis indeed a bit of a puzzle... Undecided Huh


Does the document that contains this address and 6 word passphrase combination, also have a "global" 12 word mnemonic attached to it? Huh Or are the 12 word mnemonics that you have in a completely different document with different addresses? Huh If there is a 12 word mnemonic, and then the individual addresses have the 6 word passphrase, it's possible that the BASE16 is correct and the 6 word passphrases are "BIP39 passphrases" and you both the 12 word mnemonic + 6 word passphrase to derive the correct private key/address.

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Even if the checksum does not validate to true the seed can still be valid this is a requirement in the protocol.

As far as i can see the 6 word phrase should be used as the salt or password in conjunction with the 12 word Mnemonic.
legendary
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If you need a fast way to check all the addresses, just copy/paste them into a new Electrum "watching-only" wallet ("File" -> "New/Restore" -> "Import Bitcoin addresses or private keys")... it'll find any/all transactions relating to those addresses and you'll be able to see which ones still have a balance.

NOTE:
- don't try and use the 6 word passphrases, that won't work in Electrum... just copy/paste the addresses. At least that way you'll see whether or not there is actually anything to find Tongue


I'm not aware of ANY wallets that used a 6 word passphrase... and because these 6 word phrases seem to be attached to one specific address, I don't think they are a true "seed mnemonic" for an HD/BIP39 wallet, but as mentioned earlier... I'd think they were some sort of "brain wallet"... or maybe some other custom system used to create private keys from words???


Given that the address from your screenshot: 1A9Tp3JjDvyQUtyQYLdDdCqMgK12sVZ238 is empty and has never actually been used, would you be willing to provide the 6 word passphrase for this address so people could try and figure out the system used? Huh or is it the same passphrase for ALL the addresses? Huh

and the 12 seed not working in elctrum
it give me wrong address  like this one
bc1qc4fdk5re3r08msaelnndnywnh9pec5p5tqh9kv

You must change the type of address to 'legacy', not segwit.

the address have .1 btc but in electrum have zero ?

start again as per this guide: https://bitcoinelectrum.com/restoring-your-standard-wallet-from-seed/

pay attention to the what it says next to the options button in step 4. if it doesn't let you proceed then you can try checking bip39 under options. after you do that it should show bip39 checksum ok. if it doesn't then you have a seed that is neither electrum nor bip39 and you can't use it with electrum.

then in step 5 select legacy as the script type. try the default bip44 derivation path and if that doesn't work then try the one for multibit hd:

https://bitcoinelectrum.com/restoring-your-multibithd-wallet-in-electrum/



legendary
Activity: 952
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If you need a fast way to check all the addresses, just copy/paste them into a new Electrum "watching-only" wallet ("File" -> "New/Restore" -> "Import Bitcoin addresses or private keys")... it'll find any/all transactions relating to those addresses and you'll be able to see which ones still have a balance.

NOTE:
- don't try and use the 6 word passphrases, that won't work in Electrum... just copy/paste the addresses. At least that way you'll see whether or not there is actually anything to find Tongue


I'm not aware of ANY wallets that used a 6 word passphrase... and because these 6 word phrases seem to be attached to one specific address, I don't think they are a true "seed mnemonic" for an HD/BIP39 wallet, but as mentioned earlier... I'd think they were some sort of "brain wallet"... or maybe some other custom system used to create private keys from words???


Given that the address from your screenshot: 1A9Tp3JjDvyQUtyQYLdDdCqMgK12sVZ238 is empty and has never actually been used, would you be willing to provide the 6 word passphrase for this address so people could try and figure out the system used? Huh or is it the same passphrase for ALL the addresses? Huh

and the 12 seed not working in elctrum
it give me wrong address  like this one
bc1qc4fdk5re3r08msaelnndnywnh9pec5p5tqh9kv

You must change the type of address to 'legacy', not segwit.

the address have .1 btc but in electrum have zero ?

If you use this seed on iancoleman page, do you receive in the table below your expected address and address from electrum?
Kuw
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Activity: 70
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If you need a fast way to check all the addresses, just copy/paste them into a new Electrum "watching-only" wallet ("File" -> "New/Restore" -> "Import Bitcoin addresses or private keys")... it'll find any/all transactions relating to those addresses and you'll be able to see which ones still have a balance.

NOTE:
- don't try and use the 6 word passphrases, that won't work in Electrum... just copy/paste the addresses. At least that way you'll see whether or not there is actually anything to find Tongue


I'm not aware of ANY wallets that used a 6 word passphrase... and because these 6 word phrases seem to be attached to one specific address, I don't think they are a true "seed mnemonic" for an HD/BIP39 wallet, but as mentioned earlier... I'd think they were some sort of "brain wallet"... or maybe some other custom system used to create private keys from words???


Given that the address from your screenshot: 1A9Tp3JjDvyQUtyQYLdDdCqMgK12sVZ238 is empty and has never actually been used, would you be willing to provide the 6 word passphrase for this address so people could try and figure out the system used? Huh or is it the same passphrase for ALL the addresses? Huh

and the 12 seed not working in elctrum
it give me wrong address  like this one
bc1qc4fdk5re3r08msaelnndnywnh9pec5p5tqh9kv

You must change the type of address to 'legacy', not segwit.

the address have .1 btc but in electrum have zero ?
legendary
Activity: 952
Merit: 1386
If you need a fast way to check all the addresses, just copy/paste them into a new Electrum "watching-only" wallet ("File" -> "New/Restore" -> "Import Bitcoin addresses or private keys")... it'll find any/all transactions relating to those addresses and you'll be able to see which ones still have a balance.

NOTE:
- don't try and use the 6 word passphrases, that won't work in Electrum... just copy/paste the addresses. At least that way you'll see whether or not there is actually anything to find Tongue


I'm not aware of ANY wallets that used a 6 word passphrase... and because these 6 word phrases seem to be attached to one specific address, I don't think they are a true "seed mnemonic" for an HD/BIP39 wallet, but as mentioned earlier... I'd think they were some sort of "brain wallet"... or maybe some other custom system used to create private keys from words???


Given that the address from your screenshot: 1A9Tp3JjDvyQUtyQYLdDdCqMgK12sVZ238 is empty and has never actually been used, would you be willing to provide the 6 word passphrase for this address so people could try and figure out the system used? Huh or is it the same passphrase for ALL the addresses? Huh

and the 12 seed not working in elctrum
it give me wrong address  like this one
bc1qc4fdk5re3r08msaelnndnywnh9pec5p5tqh9kv

You must change the type of address to 'legacy', not segwit.
Kuw
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Activity: 70
Merit: 10
If you need a fast way to check all the addresses, just copy/paste them into a new Electrum "watching-only" wallet ("File" -> "New/Restore" -> "Import Bitcoin addresses or private keys")... it'll find any/all transactions relating to those addresses and you'll be able to see which ones still have a balance.

NOTE:
- don't try and use the 6 word passphrases, that won't work in Electrum... just copy/paste the addresses. At least that way you'll see whether or not there is actually anything to find Tongue


I'm not aware of ANY wallets that used a 6 word passphrase... and because these 6 word phrases seem to be attached to one specific address, I don't think they are a true "seed mnemonic" for an HD/BIP39 wallet, but as mentioned earlier... I'd think they were some sort of "brain wallet"... or maybe some other custom system used to create private keys from words???


Given that the address from your screenshot: 1A9Tp3JjDvyQUtyQYLdDdCqMgK12sVZ238 is empty and has never actually been used, would you be willing to provide the 6 word passphrase for this address so people could try and figure out the system used? Huh or is it the same passphrase for ALL the addresses? Huh

and the 12 seed not working in elctrum
it give me wrong address  like this one
bc1qc4fdk5re3r08msaelnndnywnh9pec5p5tqh9kv
Kuw
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Activity: 70
Merit: 10
If you need a fast way to check all the addresses, just copy/paste them into a new Electrum "watching-only" wallet ("File" -> "New/Restore" -> "Import Bitcoin addresses or private keys")... it'll find any/all transactions relating to those addresses and you'll be able to see which ones still have a balance.

NOTE:
- don't try and use the 6 word passphrases, that won't work in Electrum... just copy/paste the addresses. At least that way you'll see whether or not there is actually anything to find Tongue


I'm not aware of ANY wallets that used a 6 word passphrase... and because these 6 word phrases seem to be attached to one specific address, I don't think they are a true "seed mnemonic" for an HD/BIP39 wallet, but as mentioned earlier... I'd think they were some sort of "brain wallet"... or maybe some other custom system used to create private keys from words???


Given that the address from your screenshot: 1A9Tp3JjDvyQUtyQYLdDdCqMgK12sVZ238 is empty and has never actually been used, would you be willing to provide the 6 word passphrase for this address so people could try and figure out the system used? Huh or is it the same passphrase for ALL the addresses? Huh

passphrase :

child shout iron pair row aunt
HCP
legendary
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If you need a fast way to check all the addresses, just copy/paste them into a new Electrum "watching-only" wallet ("File" -> "New/Restore" -> "Import Bitcoin addresses or private keys")... it'll find any/all transactions relating to those addresses and you'll be able to see which ones still have a balance.

NOTE:
- don't try and use the 6 word passphrases, that won't work in Electrum... just copy/paste the addresses. At least that way you'll see whether or not there is actually anything to find Tongue


I'm not aware of ANY wallets that used a 6 word passphrase... and because these 6 word phrases seem to be attached to one specific address, I don't think they are a true "seed mnemonic" for an HD/BIP39 wallet, but as mentioned earlier... I'd think they were some sort of "brain wallet"... or maybe some other custom system used to create private keys from words???


Given that the address from your screenshot: 1A9Tp3JjDvyQUtyQYLdDdCqMgK12sVZ238 is empty and has never actually been used, would you be willing to provide the 6 word passphrase for this address so people could try and figure out the system used? Huh or is it the same passphrase for ALL the addresses? Huh
legendary
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i find all the files in old hard disk
i foind many many addess of btc from 2014
and i found like more than 100 6 word called Passphrase
i found like more than 50 6 word called frases
i found 12 word called seeds

and many many many of adult vedio and pic

are you ok know Smiley

Then maybe start with what is called 'seeds' and see if it makes any sense. 12 words seeds look better than '6 word passphrase'.
"6 word called frases" sounds like a source for brainwallet.
Kuw
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i found it in old  2014 file with more than 100 btc address seed
Again: how did you get the file?

the QR show only the btc address thats the problem and only with 6 word key to redeem and collect .
Did you check the QR-code that says "redeem"?

You may also download list of all addresses with balance and check manually on your computer:
https://gz.blockchair.com/bitcoin/addresses/blockchair_bitcoin_addresses_latest.tsv.gz
Mine is much faster to download: List of all Bitcoin addresses with a balance.

i wont send any list  but i will give who help me 10% of what i find in all wallet
I've seen many similar "offers" recently.

i find all the files in old hard disk
i foind many many addess of btc from 2014
and i found like more than 100 6 word called Passphrase
i found like more than 50 6 word called frases
i found 12 word called seeds

and many many many of adult vedio and pic

are you ok know Smiley
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Then I would try to use the page I mentioned and see if any combination of bip version gives the expected address.

Maybe try download old version of Electrum, released before 2014?
From the official site electrum.org or maybe git (but I am not sure about it).
https://github.com/spesmilo/electrum/releases?after=1.9


The latest electrum still supports the older mnemonics.
legendary
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Then I would try to use the page I mentioned and see if any combination of bip version gives the expected address.

Maybe try download old version of Electrum, released before 2014?
From the official site electrum.org or maybe git (but I am not sure about it).
https://github.com/spesmilo/electrum/releases?after=1.9
legendary
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i found it in old  2014 file with more than 100 btc address seed
Again: how did you get the file?

the QR show only the btc address thats the problem and only with 6 word key to redeem and collect .
Did you check the QR-code that says "redeem"?

You may also download list of all addresses with balance and check manually on your computer:
https://gz.blockchair.com/bitcoin/addresses/blockchair_bitcoin_addresses_latest.tsv.gz
Mine is much faster to download: List of all Bitcoin addresses with a balance.

i wont send any list  but i will give who help me 10% of what i find in all wallet
I've seen many similar "offers" recently.
Kuw
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i wont send any list  but i will give who help me 10% of what i find in all wallet

So the best would be check manually one by one... quite boring but with 100 addresses it will take around 10 minutes, maybe 15...

If addresses are old, then probably you have also some other 'coins', check here:
http://www.findmycoins.ninja/
for 18zXdRJiosTZZ3cmUG8fjMewwpYG1FuDww:
5135.3501
Mixed coins found
$47+
Worth in USD

worth more with the btc and the other address have 10btc with bitcoin cash
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