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August 05, 2021, 04:59:55 PM
I actually do not understand why a project would offer 75 percent bonus in their presale. It's so obvious that they are setting the project up to fail. Once you see this from any project just run because the project would definitely dump.
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elysian.finance
August 05, 2021, 02:48:57 PM
75% discount in presale is definitely too high as discount. This is because the presale investors already have a 75% profit, all they need to do is to wait for the token to get listed on the exchange then they cash in by dumping the tokens. This kind of discount is bad
full member
Activity: 756
Merit: 100
August 05, 2021, 01:21:07 PM
The 75% discount during the presale was indeed very large, but I've seen even bigger discounts of up to 90%. the reason why the project developer is doing this big discount is of course because he wants to attract investors, if the project is good, of course this will be very profitable, but if not, then the end result will be a massive dump of the coin price.
sr. member
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Merit: 251
August 05, 2021, 04:20:04 AM
too high, how can they enforce it, what I saw after it opened in the market then investors will sell most of their tokens and the token price will definitely dump, depending on the market power to buy back the tokens that keeps the project going, and honestly every the good projects I've seen have never given such a big discount.
full member
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July 28, 2021, 03:45:06 PM
Its depend on the project and what will bring, i know about many icos that give even 100% discount but in the end their token did a great job on exchanges and vice versa
sr. member
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July 28, 2021, 03:34:12 PM
I think the high discount will make you hesitate if you want to buy tokens during the presale, but usually it can also be done with a limited token sale and that's good in my opinion because every company's marketing is different, but you keep going. analyze the project before deciding to buy it because with a big discount, of course the risk given is also very large.
jr. member
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Merit: 4
November 28, 2021, 12:06:27 PM
75% sounds quite too much... even if tokens will be locked for long time, but what is actually good a presale discount? 15 - 25%?
sr. member
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November 28, 2021, 12:00:10 PM
Is 75% discount in presale of a project way too high? What do you think will happen to such project giving away too high discount for a presale? Will this cos huge dump or you've seen projects that survives after such massive discount

UPDATE

I meant 75% not $, that was a mistake and thanks for understanding

It is possible that such large discounts of 75% are offered at closed presales for large, "angel" investors. But if we consider such conditions on open sales for ordinary mass investors, then such a marketing move would scare me off. Reminiscent of a full, final sale before a store closes. Wink
copper member
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November 28, 2021, 11:43:10 AM
75% is very high. Usually projects that offer high discount sales have the potential to scam in the beginning. I usually measure it if it's above 50% it's very high. I didn't take any chances. A scam is going to happen. 25% is a good one to follow. ICO sales have a reasonable limit in providing discounts. Because only scammers are willing to give great discounts to buyers.
Even though the pre-sale token discount is very large, it doesn't mean the project is a scam, because usually the pre-sale token will be locked for a fairly long time, and unlocked slowly.
sr. member
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Vave.com - Crypto Casino
November 28, 2021, 11:39:48 AM
75% is very high. Usually projects that offer high discount sales have the potential to scam in the beginning. I usually measure it if it's above 50% it's very high. I didn't take any chances. A scam is going to happen. 25% is a good one to follow. ICO sales have a reasonable limit in providing discounts. Because only scammers are willing to give great discounts to buyers.
legendary
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November 28, 2021, 11:04:20 AM
Is 75% discount in presale of a project way too high? What do you think will happen to such project giving away too high discount for a presale? Will this cos huge dump or you've seen projects that survives after such massive discount

UPDATE

I meant 75% not $, that was a mistake and thanks for understanding

Well, what normally happens on most presales where I participated no matter what the discount during presale is that presalers usually sell when they gain profit. So what usually happens is that after some time price will eventually drop and that's normal. If you have ever bought some coins/tokens during the presale, and then the presalers dump, that's fine, as long as the project is a legitimate one. You can also add some in your bags and be thankful for the discount. Investing especially in projects with long term roadmap and unique utility are always worth holding. So don't stress yourself to much about what will happen a day after the presale. But make sure you are investing on projects with a great team behind by doing research and not just on memecoins that fully relies on hype.
Discounts are just a marketing strategy to attract investors. You are right that the real and great team behind a project will make it work. Whether it has a small or large discount later when it arrives in the market this will be different. As long as it's legitimate and worth having then 75% is quite interesting of course.
Precisely, it will depend on how the developers will come out, providing usable success,

that kind of discount is very interesting if the concept of the project is for long-term goal, not just a pump and dump asset
that will lead you to lose your money if you failed to sell after the listing.

There are many failures that take place during the hot hypes of ICO's better to learn from that and always be diligent to deal
with your good research.
member
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November 28, 2021, 09:23:03 AM
Is 75% discount in presale of a project way too high? What do you think will happen to such project giving away too high discount for a presale? Will this cos huge dump or you've seen projects that survives after such massive discount

UPDATE

I meant 75% not $, that was a mistake and thanks for understanding

Well, what normally happens on most presales where I participated no matter what the discount during presale is that presalers usually sell when they gain profit. So what usually happens is that after some time price will eventually drop and that's normal. If you have ever bought some coins/tokens during the presale, and then the presalers dump, that's fine, as long as the project is a legitimate one. You can also add some in your bags and be thankful for the discount. Investing especially in projects with long term roadmap and unique utility are always worth holding. So don't stress yourself to much about what will happen a day after the presale. But make sure you are investing on projects with a great team behind by doing research and not just on memecoins that fully relies on hype.
Discounts are just a marketing strategy to attract investors. You are right that the real and great team behind a project will make it work. Whether it has a small or large discount later when it arrives in the market this will be different. As long as it's legitimate and worth having then 75% is quite interesting of course.
member
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November 28, 2021, 06:28:57 AM
That's a big number but you need to consider that by offering big profits, there are risks that can happen
Of course there are also projects that are successful and the price is many times the presale, that's what investors hope the project can run smoothly and successfully
full member
Activity: 812
Merit: 126
November 28, 2021, 05:52:05 AM
Is 75% discount in presale of a project way too high? What do you think will happen to such project giving away too high discount for a presale? Will this cos huge dump or you've seen projects that survives after such massive discount

UPDATE

I meant 75% not $, that was a mistake and thanks for understanding

Well, what normally happens on most presales where I participated no matter what the discount during presale is that presalers usually sell when they gain profit. So what usually happens is that after some time price will eventually drop and that's normal. If you have ever bought some coins/tokens during the presale, and then the presalers dump, that's fine, as long as the project is a legitimate one. You can also add some in your bags and be thankful for the discount. Investing especially in projects with long term roadmap and unique utility are always worth holding. So don't stress yourself to much about what will happen a day after the presale. But make sure you are investing on projects with a great team behind by doing research and not just on memecoins that fully relies on hype.
member
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Merit: 10
November 28, 2021, 05:16:45 AM
I think this depends on the project.  If the project is hype such that it could be successful in the long run, it is a benefits for several investors who buys their coin on a discounted presale, and this action can pull many investors but the problem is it could make even small problem in the future and may dump the coin value since many would buy volume coin on disconnected presale.
sr. member
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August 05, 2021, 10:49:54 PM
There are many aspects to assess it, if the team is experienced in the crypto field for me it doesn't matter so that it can attract many investors, but on the other hand if the team is unknown or anonymous in my opinion the project is just a pump and dump for dev benefit, and immediately stay away from it such a project.
That's right, the criteria that we must prepare are certainly not only in one or several of them, but we must be observant and analyze well. In addition to experience in crypto, the behavior that has been carried out so far is also very important as a reference because many who have committed fraud certainly do not deserve to be chosen again. remember they are good at manipulating all the rules created by taking from projects that worked well. so keep analyzing well and avoid people like them.
full member
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The Standard Protocol - Solving Inflation
August 05, 2021, 10:07:07 PM
Is 75% discount in presale of a project way too high? What do you think will happen to such project giving away too high discount for a presale? Will this cos huge dump or you've seen projects that survives after such massive discount

UPDATE

I meant 75% not $, that was a mistake and thanks for understanding
well it depends , it does feels too big but i think the best think to consider when investing is the credibility of the team and what kind of project they are doing. So many project are too delusional and dont have a great basic to build a businesses sometimes the make an ICO, fund the money and they just go away telling people they go bankrupt. So i do think fudamental is the best part of investment and you need to know who build it and what kind person that doing it.  I also think giving a discount is unreasonable and its just a trick to attract customer to make some kind of FOMO buying which is not really good.
sr. member
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August 05, 2021, 09:34:22 PM
There are many aspects to assess it, if the team is experienced in the crypto field for me it doesn't matter so that it can attract many investors, but on the other hand if the team is unknown or anonymous in my opinion the project is just a pump and dump for dev benefit, and immediately stay away from it such a project.
There are many aspects to assess it, if the team is experienced in the crypto field for me it doesn't matter so that it can attract many investors, but on the other hand if the team is unknown or anonymous in my opinion the project is just a pump and dump for dev benefit, and immediately stay away from it such a project.

how professional the development team is but if the bonus given in the presale or private sale is too large it will also have a bad impact on the market at the beginning of the token trade.
The market for new projects usually doesn't get strong right away. and if the bonus given is too large, I believe the market will be very easy to collapse.
hero member
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Dimon69
August 05, 2021, 09:31:05 PM
Is 75% discount in presale of a project way too high? What do you think will happen to such project giving away too high discount for a presale? Will this cos huge dump or you've seen projects that survives after such massive discount

UPDATE

I meant 75% not $, that was a mistake and thanks for understanding
Like I know, not all projects are scam but many of this projects with 75% off on pre-sale are scam projects, so many I can't mention.

I joined an airdrop on discord early this year things was going real good till the pre-sale and 24hrs to the pre-sale they reduced the price 20% more making it more cheaper and at the end of the day the admin came out to announce to them that they've really contributed to his life lmao he just took all the money and disappeared thank God I wasn't a victim. Short story all I'll tell you is make research before jumping into pre-sale make sure you go through the project, check the backup team check their potentials else you might fall a victim.

This is the common discount on presale of projects launching there project right now. I'm active on participating on presale and they usually control the price after listing by limiting the maximum buy per user and vesting release of presale tokens. This way even though they have a huge discount, They can't dump there token at once and there's no whale that can manipulate the price of the market.
sr. member
Activity: 1344
Merit: 253
August 05, 2021, 09:30:20 PM
There are many aspects to assess it, if the team is experienced in the crypto field for me it doesn't matter so that it can attract many investors, but on the other hand if the team is unknown or anonymous in my opinion the project is just a pump and dump for dev benefit, and immediately stay away from it such a project.
There are many aspects to assess it, if the team is experienced in the crypto field for me it doesn't matter so that it can attract many investors, but on the other hand if the team is unknown or anonymous in my opinion the project is just a pump and dump for dev benefit, and immediately stay away from it such a project.
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