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August 05, 2021, 10:25:49 PM
There are many aspects to assess it, if the team is experienced in the crypto field for me it doesn't matter so that it can attract many investors, but on the other hand if the team is unknown or anonymous in my opinion the project is just a pump and dump for dev benefit, and immediately stay away from it such a project.
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My Dream Comes True
August 05, 2021, 09:48:06 PM
Is 75% discount in presale of a project way too high? What do you think will happen to such project giving away too high discount for a presale? Will this cos huge dump or you've seen projects that survives after such massive discount

UPDATE

I meant 75% not $, that was a mistake and thanks for understanding
Yes, it is big, maybe the price will fall when first listed on the market, but a good project will definitely think about all these risks, they give big discounts too because all people who buy in the presale are their first investors. I don't think big discount is the reason the price will drop if the project has good value in terms of innovation, utility,community etc. Let's look at a project that has absolutely no presale and actually gives a big airdrop, the price maybe falling down but they can survive, the price rising again. but it all comes back to the project itself, how is the innovation they bring, is there any real usecase? is there anything interesting from the roadmap? or not interesting at all
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August 05, 2021, 07:53:04 PM
Is 75% discount in presale of a project way too high? What do you think will happen to such project giving away too high discount for a presale? Will this cos huge dump or you've seen projects that survives after such massive discount

UPDATE

I meant 75% not $, that was a mistake and thanks for understanding
Like I know, not all projects are scam but many of this projects with 75% off on pre-sale are scam projects, so many I can't mention.

I joined an airdrop on discord early this year things was going real good till the pre-sale and 24hrs to the pre-sale they reduced the price 20% more making it more cheaper and at the end of the day the admin came out to announce to them that they've really contributed to his life lmao he just took all the money and disappeared thank God I wasn't a victim. Short story all I'll tell you is make research before jumping into pre-sale make sure you go through the project, check the backup team check their potentials else you might fall a victim.
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August 05, 2021, 03:20:14 PM
Is 75% discount in presale of a project way too high? What do you think will happen to such project giving away too high discount for a presale? Will this cos huge dump or you've seen projects that survives after such massive discount

UPDATE

I meant 75% not $, that was a mistake and thanks for understanding

Indeed, at the time of pre-sale, the discount given was very high. Some of us think of the huge profits to be made, but some of us think of the next market after the distribution is done. What worries us is not the discount, but the remaining tokens that are not sold and entered on the exchange as a whole, then the market conditions will dump. I think the team should also be consistent with what they have explained in their whitepaper regarding the remaining unsold tokens.

The teams often argue that pre-sale discounts are justified because investors during that phase carry more risk. While in the real world that is true, in crypto it only means that the risk for investors during the other investment rounds is extremely high that they just get dumped on right after the coin is listed on an exchange.

I think the losses experienced by investors depend on the projects they invest in. If the project only provides a website, then creates their token, of course investors will continue to suffer losses.
sr. member
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August 05, 2021, 02:10:34 PM
Its depend on the project and what will bring, i know about many icos that give even 100% discount but in the end their token did a great job on exchanges and vice versa
And not all of them are like that, because if we look at the successful and unsuccessful ICO projects, there are still many who are not successful, because making a truly legitimate project is very difficult, moreover the product is not clear, even though the purpose of the concept can be very good.
sr. member
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August 05, 2021, 09:37:46 AM
Is 75% discount in presale of a project way too high? What do you think will happen to such project giving away too high discount for a presale? Will this cos huge dump or you've seen projects that survives after such massive discount

UPDATE

I meant 75% not $, that was a mistake and thanks for understanding

It's going to have a massive dump if whales are going to buy a huge percentage of the supply, developers are doing this to kickstart the crowdfunding because once investors see that investments are coming up, they will follow it like a domino effect, so it's a good attraction for investors and an opportunity to make a huge profit.
legendary
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August 05, 2021, 07:49:22 AM
too high, how can they enforce it, what I saw after it opened in the market then investors will sell most of their tokens and the token price will definitely dump, depending on the market power to buy back the tokens that keeps the project going, and honestly every the good projects I've seen have never given such a big discount.

Early investors take the high risk investment trusting their money in the hands of those developers.

It's not that much if they'll going to sell immediately after reaching exchange, if the team have the right perceptions and they know
how to expect, there's always chance for the team to move forward and receive the support that they need from the community, if they managed to  bring more investors after listing the very chance that traders and investors will earn a lot.
sr. member
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August 05, 2021, 07:40:43 AM
Is 75% discount in presale of a project way too high? What do you think will happen to such project giving away too high discount for a presale? Will this cos huge dump or you've seen projects that survives after such massive discount

UPDATE

I meant 75% not $, that was a mistake and thanks for understanding

It is completely normal, that the private-sale round has slightly lower prices then the public sale round, that is the benefit the big investors and VC's get for funding the project very early on where there is still a lot of uncertainty if the project can deliver. Of course though a 75% discount compared to the public sale is just way to much in my opinion because that way it is inevitable that massive dump happens as soon as the tokens are tradeable. Usually private sale tokens are not released all at once but according to a vesting schedule but it is not unusual that, like 10% of the private sale is unlocked on day 1 of trading and the rest is unlocked over the next year or so. So i would never participate in a public sale where i know that the private round was 75% cheaper.
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August 05, 2021, 04:56:36 AM
Its depend on the project and what will bring, i know about many icos that give even 100% discount but in the end their token did a great job on exchanges and vice versa
i see many projects that give free coin as an airdrop and do well too and they later become a really big project.
it's always depend on the project itself if the project is valuable and could make the world better then big chance it will success even if the presale
is cheap or even free. project like axie infinity or vulcanverse is a good project, other project should take example.
jr. member
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July 28, 2021, 03:59:45 PM
I'm not a fan of projects that give clients such steep discounts. Most of them end up in a huge dump and would rather invest in a project with no discount at all than a project with a huge discount because it is extremely risky and almost always results in a loss.
sr. member
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July 26, 2021, 08:15:52 AM
Is 75% discount in presale of a project way too high? What do you think will happen to such project giving away too high discount for a presale? Will this cos huge dump or you've seen projects that survives after such massive discount

UPDATE

I meant 75% not $, that was a mistake and thanks for understanding

Indeed, at the time of pre-sale, the discount given was very high. Some of us think of the huge profits to be made, but some of us think of the next market after the distribution is done. What worries us is not the discount, but the remaining tokens that are not sold and entered on the exchange as a whole, then the market conditions will dump. I think the team should also be consistent with what they have explained in their whitepaper regarding the remaining unsold tokens.

The teams often argue that pre-sale discounts are justified because investors during that phase carry more risk. While in the real world that is true, in crypto it only means that the risk for investors during the other investment rounds is extremely high that they just get dumped on right after the coin is listed on an exchange.
copper member
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July 26, 2021, 07:43:29 AM
Is 75% discount in presale of a project way too high? What do you think will happen to such project giving away too high discount for a presale? Will this cos huge dump or you've seen projects that survives after such massive discount

UPDATE

I meant 75% not $, that was a mistake and thanks for understanding
maximum free sale offer some grate then it take investor money then it can go out of the market so look before you leaf I think own block chine coin is better for invest meant other wise investment can lose your capital.
full member
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July 24, 2021, 04:09:13 PM
Is 75% discount in presale of a project way too high? What do you think will happen to such project giving away too high discount for a presale? Will this cos huge dump or you've seen projects that survives after such massive discount

UPDATE

I meant 75% not $, that was a mistake and thanks for understanding

Indeed, at the time of pre-sale, the discount given was very high. Some of us think of the huge profits to be made, but some of us think of the next market after the distribution is done. What worries us is not the discount, but the remaining tokens that are not sold and entered on the exchange as a whole, then the market conditions will dump. I think the team should also be consistent with what they have explained in their whitepaper regarding the remaining unsold tokens.
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July 24, 2021, 03:01:31 PM
high discount in presale, it seems bad vibes after the exchange listing, in the listing of exchange presale investors try to sell early then price will crash for a big volume of coins sell orders.

so many projects could not survive for wrong presale strategy in 2017. this high discounts mean teams try to engage more investors in this project
sr. member
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July 24, 2021, 12:46:41 PM
huge discount was not effective anymore in project, many investors affraid if by this huge discount price will dumped by whales investors.
Agreed, that's why some investors didn't even like the project that was using the big discount to attract the buyers. They were thinking this scheme was a shady scheme right now.
The real investors didn't even care about how much that will be paid as long as the project was fully active and it can make them all money in the future.
People just realized it after these scheme used by scammers to sell their garbage tokens.

Big discounts are always a red flag. Have you ever seen some bluechip company, a business with world class people and quality, throwing away shares at big discounts? If a project has a very convincing strategy and product there is no point in playing around with suspicious discounts. That's what projects do that already do have a plan, but the plan is not to make its investors rich! Wink
hero member
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July 24, 2021, 12:21:53 PM
Some projects offer 50-75% discount to attract investors. I don't think such projects are successful. Because most of the projects that I have seen to be successful have given 15-20% presale discount.
- Low discount will reduce the leakage of too many tokens out, less distribution will increase the value of tokens and there will be no dump systems appearing, even if these systems try to appear, the scale cannot be so large that the project collapses in just the day of listing, therefore, the low discount rate is also a point that helps many projects succeed and can rest on a few listed positions. High discount is more risky due to uneven distribution and too large scope but discount is also a form of advertising, it is also difficult to determine all the success of the project
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July 24, 2021, 07:40:24 AM
Is 75% discount in presale of a project way too high? What do you think will happen to such project giving away too high discount for a presale? Will this cos huge dump or you've seen projects that survives after such massive discount

UPDATE

I meant 75% not $, that was a mistake and thanks for understanding

It defend on how strong of the team handling the project. Reviewing is very important to gain profit and earn during the time of sell. If you got the proper review and buy many coin during presale so the celebration is on and got the lambo. Even bounty hunter do that technique to gain income during bounties.


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July 24, 2021, 04:30:26 AM
Is 75% discount in presale of a project way too high? What do you think will happen to such project giving away too high discount for a presale? Will this cos huge dump or you've seen projects that survives after such massive discount

UPDATE

I meant 75% not $, that was a mistake and thanks for understanding
Yeah, some investors took always get their profits but those hardcore investors do not. They hold until the project got reaped up and that's where they sell. I haven't seen any projects who offers that kind of big discount. I saw 50% but not 75%. It could surely make a temptation for early adopters.
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July 24, 2021, 03:20:55 AM
huge discount was not effective anymore in project, many investors affraid if by this huge discount price will dumped by whales investors.
The fear you say is normal but if the big discount is only for a few moments just to stimulate, it's a good marketing thing as long as it's not all flattened or even the discount seems too long.


Agreed, that's why some investors didn't even like the project that was using the big discount to attract the buyers. They were thinking this scheme was a shady scheme right now.
The real investors didn't even care about how much that will be paid as long as the project was fully active and it can make them all money in the future.
People just realized it after these scheme used by scammers to sell their garbage tokens.
I also strongly agree that a discount that is too big will make investors too suspicious, not investors will be happy. everything goes back to the marketing of the project, you can get around from the discounts that are made, it may be that the total of all discounts given as a whole is not as big as the estimated total, which is too much.

most obvious is that giving excessive discounts will result in the project being a scam or payment not matching the price when buying. so everything must be analyzed properly what has been given because it could have a bad impact on the sustainability of the project.
sr. member
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July 21, 2021, 07:10:26 PM
In general, it all depends on how many coins are offered at such a discount, if their chilso is not limited,
then it is obvious that this is a rather dubious factor, because then most of the investors will simply buy all the coins at a cheap price, which will ultimately have a very negative effect on the price.
dev team will decided in which amount they will set allocation for early investors. They must aware it could have risk token dump if too much allocation provided. But investors have due dilligent too with tokenomic and discount that given by dev team.
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