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isn't 1% unlock of all total supply is kind of normal? even if the vesting percentage was less than that it's gonna get unlocked in no time anyway, a price with 1% circulating supply isn't even the real price and doesn't reflect the real market in the future.
I'm pretty sure if the project is good there's always gonna be a demand in the market that's gonna buy the coin recently unlocked, many also trying to snipe newly created tokens at early listings.

In addition, investors who buy coins during the public sale period have a slight advantage over early investors. It consists in the fact that by the time of the TGE they have the opportunity to sell all their coins during the listing, while those who bought coins during the private round will have a small part of the coins unlocked.

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Giving too high discount price during presale can make you wonder if its worth it to invest or scam. This strategy is common for the new project that wants to scam the investors and then run away the funds they invested so be careful with this kind of project better to have your own research before investing.

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Quote from: ANSEL_2.0 on June 11, 2021, 04:39:29 PM

Is 75$ discount in presale of a project way too high? What do you think will happen to such project giving away too high discount for a presale? Will this cos huge dump or you've seen projects that survives after such massive discount

It could be that the project only attracts investors to buy at the time of the presale but will experience an increase in purchases when the presale is over. Maybe this is a marketing way to attract people. but that's just my passing thought.

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Quote from: ANSEL_2.0 on June 11, 2021, 04:39:29 PM

Is 75$ discount in presale of a project way too high? What do you think will happen to such project giving away too high discount for a presale? Will this cos huge dump or you've seen projects that survives after such massive discount

It's presale and they want to lure and attract early birds so the sales can take off, it's not really the discount but the potential of the wallet that really matters I have invested in a project with a very high presale discount they get in the market set up their platform but like all the projects in the bear market they cannot keep up, but I made a good profit from that project coming from presales.

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Quote from: ANSEL_2.0 on June 11, 2021, 04:39:29 PM

Is 75$ discount in presale of a project way too high? What do you think will happen to such project giving away too high discount for a presale? Will this cos huge dump or you've seen projects that survives after such massive discount

Looks like a red flag for me since I haven't heard of a legit project who offers up to that low. that's insane if you compared it to other presales where they are really asking for a decent amount of money from their investors. You need to be careful when investing in such kind of project since they are prone to pump and dump later on. if you have the means to lose that money, then you can always try it on. As I said, you are taking a maximum risk but if that project works out, then you are one of the lucky guys who will earn some massive amount of income from that small capital.

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don't tempted with any high discount in presale, its doesnt guarantee we will gain profits when it listed in market. no matter this discount above 50% ,we must concern to the project quality and the token utility that will developted by team. Many project give huge discount only to attract beginner which is still have no skill or experience participating in presale.

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Quote from: ANSEL_2.0 on June 11, 2021, 04:39:29 PM

Is 75$ discount in presale of a project way too high? What do you think will happen to such project giving away too high discount for a presale? Will this cos huge dump or you've seen projects that survives after such massive discount

You shouldn't look after the presale discount but rather the potential and legitimacy of a project. You better check the team behind and check their reputation. Some scam projects these days are offering discounts just to attract investors so you better be careful of this kind of offer.

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Quote from: ANSEL_2.0 on June 11, 2021, 04:39:29 PM

Is 75$ discount in presale of a project way too high? What do you think will happen to such project giving away too high discount for a presale? Will this cos huge dump or you've seen projects that survives after such massive discount

I think $75 is a small discount, I've been in the ICO and they give a discount of about 60% of the price to anyone who participates in the pre-sale when invest minimum $500, so I can get a $300 discount, and I'm happy that the coins I bought I still hold until now .

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High discount could mean nothing, discount is a way of appealing to wider investors circle. The important issue here is the question of how serious the project is! Does the project need money, and if it does will the money raised be used for development and growth of the project and Cryptocurrency at large!

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Quote from: ANSEL_2.0 on June 11, 2021, 04:39:29 PM

Is 75$ discount in presale of a project way too high? What do you think will happen to such project giving away too high discount for a presale? Will this cos huge dump or you've seen projects that survives after such massive discount

Most of the time, but still it's important to know more about the project's team as they will tell the reputation of the project as a whole. They are raising funds, giving a huge discount for early investors, but it's too risky at the same time so you deserve the reward if they succeed.

But like what I'm saying, most of the time it will dump when it's listed in the exchange, so DYOR, and good luck.

Exactly. Everyone who has been around during the ICO craze knows that 990 out of 1000 projects use these special early investor discounts to dump massively on investors who joined during later rounds. Also possible that they buy those coins themselves and then say there is the wallet from presale investors but in fact they sent their own money there to mislead others.

Nowadays most of IDO, IEO and ICO are locking the token for their early investor, tbh it's not really a problem anymore nowadays, if people willing to spend some time and read the tokenomic they could figure out which project actually aren't a game of who comes early.
ICO back few years ago was such unrefined method of fundraising, now it's getting more better and better in guaranteeing the safety of investor from such thing.

I don't fully agree to be honest. You can never know how exactly the processes are behind the scenes. There are all these budgets for marketing, legal, advisors, bla bla bla. If it is all locked up in smart contracts and the team is transparent about every expense you might be right, but that is never the case.

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Quote from: vabchgent on June 18, 2021, 04:18:12 PM

Quote from: Botnake on June 11, 2021, 04:58:31 PM

Quote from: ANSEL_2.0 on June 11, 2021, 04:39:29 PM

Is 75$ discount in presale of a project way too high? What do you think will happen to such project giving away too high discount for a presale? Will this cos huge dump or you've seen projects that survives after such massive discount

Most of the time, but still it's important to know more about the project's team as they will tell the reputation of the project as a whole. They are raising funds, giving a huge discount for early investors, but it's too risky at the same time so you deserve the reward if they succeed.

But like what I'm saying, most of the time it will dump when it's listed in the exchange, so DYOR, and good luck.

Exactly. Everyone who has been around during the ICO craze knows that 990 out of 1000 projects use these special early investor discounts to dump massively on investors who joined during later rounds. Also possible that they buy those coins themselves and then say there is the wallet from presale investors but in fact they sent their own money there to mislead others.

Nowadays most of IDO, IEO and ICO are locking the token for their early investor, tbh it's not really a problem anymore nowadays, if people willing to spend some time and read the tokenomic they could figure out which project actually aren't a game of who comes early.
ICO back few years ago was such unrefined method of fundraising, now it's getting more better and better in guaranteeing the safety of investor from such thing.

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Quote from: Cherylstar86 on June 18, 2021, 06:36:51 PM

Quote from: ANSEL_2.0 on June 11, 2021, 04:39:29 PM

Is 75$ discount in presale of a project way too high? What do you think will happen to such project giving away too high discount for a presale? Will this cos huge dump or you've seen projects that survives after such massive discount

Most common thing to un unknown projects, will definitely caused huge dumps after the launch. We don't know exactly what will happen next but really a failure of expectations. Investors would tend to worry in the long run, specially when there's no strong support coming from a project community. Survival depends on the holders who remain constant on their asset and not only having mindset of getting physical cash all the time.

the team should lock the supply if they don't want those investors dumping their share once they hit in the market. this is the usual prob if they offered such huge discount. if they don't have any restrictions, they can easily dump it as long as they have profits. this is the reason why some projects lock certain portion of the supply and there is only time period where they unlock those coins or tokens.
not many projects can survive after the dump especially if the project has no real intentions of surviving long term.

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Quote from: ANSEL_2.0 on June 11, 2021, 04:39:29 PM

Is 75$ discount in presale of a project way too high? What do you think will happen to such project giving away too high discount for a presale? Will this cos huge dump or you've seen projects that survives after such massive discount

Most common thing to un unknown projects, will definitely caused huge dumps after the launch. We don't know exactly what will happen next but really a failure of expectations. Investors would tend to worry in the long run, specially when there's no strong support coming from a project community. Survival depends on the holders who remain constant on their asset and not only having mindset of getting physical cash all the time.

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$75k? From what minimum purchase is it? What is the price of the coin or token?
High or not, it will depend on the minimum purchase, price, and also how good the projects are. And if we are only buying about $50, can it be getting the amount? I think that every presale or even token sale sometimes will give discounts and the discounts will be in the percentage. Moreover, there will be also differences in the prices during the pre-sale and another token sale. that is why we cannot consider whether it is too high or not because we don't really know the criteria and condition of the presale itself.

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Presale discount doesn't really matter too much because when it first starts it starts at not discounted price but drops to under discounted price level very quickly. So let's say you will start at 100 dollars right? You handle everything according to that and what you end up doing is giving it away for 50$ during presale, and even 30$ for the first 10k dollars bought, and rest just 50 like I said.

When the project actually starts, when it is listed for the first time ever, the only way is down, the price will go down under 50 bucks without a doubt, maybe the first few hours could be different but it will always be there in the end. So it doesn't matter if there is a discount or not, there is really no benefit for the investor at all, so why do projects still do it? Because it is better to do it then not do it at all and that is the type of marketing you need when you are the project owner.

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Quote from: Botnake on June 11, 2021, 04:58:31 PM

Quote from: ANSEL_2.0 on June 11, 2021, 04:39:29 PM

Is 75$ discount in presale of a project way too high? What do you think will happen to such project giving away too high discount for a presale? Will this cos huge dump or you've seen projects that survives after such massive discount

Most of the time, but still it's important to know more about the project's team as they will tell the reputation of the project as a whole. They are raising funds, giving a huge discount for early investors, but it's too risky at the same time so you deserve the reward if they succeed.

But like what I'm saying, most of the time it will dump when it's listed in the exchange, so DYOR, and good luck.

Exactly. Everyone who has been around during the ICO craze knows that 990 out of 1000 projects use these special early investor discounts to dump massively on investors who joined during later rounds. Also possible that they buy those coins themselves and then say there is the wallet from presale investors but in fact they sent their own money there to mislead others.

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Quote from: ANSEL_2.0 on June 11, 2021, 04:39:29 PM

Is 75$ discount in presale of a project way too high? What do you think will happen to such project giving away too high discount for a presale? Will this cos huge dump or you've seen projects that survives after such massive discount

Which project you are talking about, for a very long time i did not invest in any project because it is obvious that the market price would come down once the coins reaches the exchange and even if i want to invest in them to stake or any other objective i have i will always wait for the coins to be listed in open in exchanges or in DEX rather than going after pre sale.

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Quote from: john_nautica on June 12, 2021, 02:25:31 AM

$75 or 75%? Because we don't know if the real price of the coins is $10000 and the discount is $75 I don't think that's a high but if it's 75% then it's really high. We are still not sure if this would lead to huge dump but the possibility is high of course it was a quick profit if that's gonna happen while the advantage of that is the project will be able to have money to improve more their project which could lead to price pump.

As a rule, the coins of investors who purchase coins at an early stage are locked for at least 1 year, and the maximum, from what I have seen, is 3 years. Therefore, coins purchased at an early stage do not affect the price for a long time. And the 75% discount is not so great compared to the price of the public sale, after which the price increased several times.

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Quote from: Anonylz on June 12, 2021, 07:51:16 AM

Sometimes high discount presale also means those tokens will be lock for a certain period of time, not all project will give this high discount and release them at once just to avoid an outright dump from the presale buyers, given discount is to attract more buyers but sometimes this can be a disadvantage to the project if the team don't have a strategic plan to release the discount.

That's right. When looking at the tokenomics of a project even if the initial price looks good it's important to compare that to the vesting period and the release schedule.

I'm saying this as you could imaging a price of 0.01 but you'll be getting your tokens after 2 years. Obviously the decision on that depends on the type of project it is team, investors etc but it's an example to illustrate the point above.

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Quote from: ANSEL_2.0 on June 11, 2021, 04:39:29 PM

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What do you mean by this? 75% or 75$. If the latter, it depends on how much the token is but if the former, then it is quite high to be honest. I smell some pump and dump coins in here because it surely gonna attract a lot of investor to buy it for real.
In the end, it would still depend on the project though.

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