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Quote from: pawanjain on February 09, 2023, 07:31:21 AM

Lol, if you are gonna gamble based on others' games then you are surely gonna lose your money.
If you don't even know what you are doing with your money then how will you manage to turn it into profits.
If you want to know how the high rollers are playing then you can start analysing their bets and then you can create your strategy referring their bets and then make your bets.
This way you will be in control of your games and not them.

It is a trial, a test, an experiment. That's why I am asking if there are gamblers who does this bet. I test it, it doesn't really work (according to my test). So I stop. It doesn't mean I will continue and it surely doesn't mean I wasted a lot of money. I don't test things by risking huge amounts. That's just stupid.

I think I do know what is happening. If we are used to betting $5-10 per game, these guys might also be used to playing $1000 - 5000 at each bet and it doesn't hurt them. It's a normal thing for them so it doesn't mean their bets are highly accurate just because they are risking an amount that is surprising to some gamblers.
They are just normal gamblers who could lose it if the game goes south. The same with our own predictions even if we pick the higher odds to win with fewer profits.

Closing this thread and thank you for all the answers. I do appreciate those who shared their experience and answered the question honestly.

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Quote from: rhomelmabini on February 08, 2023, 09:28:06 AM

Haven't tried it yet before but I think it's wise if you trail high rollers with a good percentage of winning and not just some random high roller/s that has an n amount of bet. I think it would be rare if you find yourself a high roller that is good on his/her bets even if it's only one, just minimizing the risk until you prove it's good then slowly increasing your wagers.

I haven't tried it either because it's too risky. After all, we don't know the things that run in high rollers' minds. Some of them are just betting without thinking and just betting for fun while others apply their specific strategy to win. Well, it's a good thing for those who are curious why they often win because they can copy their strategies and perfect timing. Let's just be mindful of the risks.

Before you say risky, you should first see if how much is the amount you are betting. If that was only small then what about the guy that you are following who bet millions? The risk that they are facing is too big so I don't think they will just bet right away without any deep analysis.

The things that run in the high rollers mind would be to win huge money because if they are only playing for fun then you won't see them in the rollers tab because they are only betting smaller amounts. Timing can be important but how do we know when it was now the right time to ride someone's bet? Maybe after a win? Because, their luck might still be there or it can also be after a loss because they will now try harder next time.

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Quote from: danherbias07 on February 04, 2023, 10:53:22 AM

Have you guys tried tailing high rollers with their bets on sports and electronic sports?
Because today I tried doing it just for an experiment and I took a bet on 5 games even without knowledge about them. I didn't put too much money into it because like I said, it's just for a trial.
It didn't end up well and these are the results. 4 losses and 1 win.

I copied the bet of users who are mostly playing above $1000 per bet. Some 1 Ethereum and the other with 0.1BTC if I remember it right.
So I thought, these gamblers are not joking about their bets, they must have researched hard and knew who has the highest chance to win or the end result of the scores.
Question: Has anyone been successful in doing this?

I know it's not right to bet on a game without knowing about it, I am just curious if someone does this kind of strategy.

Lol, if you are gonna gamble based on others' games then you are surely gonna lose your money.
If you don't even know what you are doing with your money then how will you manage to turn it into profits.
If you want to know how the high rollers are playing then you can start analysing their bets and then you can create your strategy referring their bets and then make your bets.
This way you will be in control of your games and not them.

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Quote from: btc78 on February 09, 2023, 01:02:16 AM

it is not a strategy at all mate because you are only following other strategy , and this is too risky for small bettors because not like those biggies? they can afford recovering but what about lowbies? i don't recommend this to be my act in gambling instead I will rely in my own luck and judgement .

High roller's bet doesn't always correct too, trusting his prediction because of the money he was bet isn't a good decision. At least he need to explain why he bet that and his analysis, so it's make more sense to follow him.

Yes, it's not always correct, even at the odds that they are betting, it's not an assurance that they will win. But the thing with them is that they have big pockets so money is not problem for them betting with smaller odds but with millions worth.

Quote from: Plaguedeath on February 09, 2023, 02:19:43 AM

But I'm mostly bet using my own luck and judgement too because if I predict wrong team/fighter, I wouldn't blame myself if I lose because the bet was created because of me, not from someone or stranger's mind.

For us that is the best strategy, not looking at others bet and try our own luck and gamble with the thought that we might win big and not rely on others by trailing them even if they are called whales or high rollers.

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Quote from: blockman on February 07, 2023, 05:55:37 PM

I think I've heard from my bets that they're following high rollers for them to save time and as well as have that bit of confidence in their bets.
But as usual, there are pros and cons to this strategy. It is gambling and we all know that the chances are always there for both boats, winning and losing.
And if this is making you effective right now, there will be a moment in time that it won't be good as what you're experiencing. So, if it's doing good as of the moment then hit the momentum.

it is not a strategy at all mate because you are only following other strategy , and this is too risky for small bettors because not like those biggies? they can afford recovering but what about lowbies?
i don't recommend this to be my act in gambling instead I will rely in my own luck and judgement .

Actually, it's okay if there are gamblers who try to do this as long as they can be responsible for what he decides. So his point is winning and losing are there and he already knows about that and can accept whatever the outcome is. In addition, he must also be able to control himself, not use big money to gamble but the money he can afford so that if he loses, it won't be too big and he can accept it. And we must remember that people who bet with a lot of money are not guaranteed to win because they have the best analysis. But maybe he just made a bet based on his feelings and wanted to try his luck.

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Quote from: blockman on February 07, 2023, 05:55:37 PM

I think I've heard from my bets that they're following high rollers for them to save time and as well as have that bit of confidence in their bets.
But as usual, there are pros and cons to this strategy. It is gambling and we all know that the chances are always there for both boats, winning and losing.
And if this is making you effective right now, there will be a moment in time that it won't be good as what you're experiencing. So, if it's doing good as of the moment then hit the momentum.

it is not a strategy at all mate because you are only following other strategy , and this is too risky for small bettors because not like those biggies? they can afford recovering but what about lowbies?
i don't recommend this to be my act in gambling instead I will rely in my own luck and judgement .

It depends on the high roller portfolio you are following is the answer to the argument. You can consider it as good strategy if the high roller you are following is very good on gambling. Some high roller always play safe despite of their huge bank roll because they attain that huge bank roll by slowly winning against the casino.

I’m ok following the bets of high roller if they are winning most of the time which you can check on his winning rate percentage on his profile rather than do it myself if I don’t have much knowledge or I’m in bad lack streak.

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Quote from: rhomelmabini on February 08, 2023, 04:24:57 PM

Quote from: tabas on February 08, 2023, 01:48:07 PM

I think that he won't do it anymore as he has stated that it was unsuccessful and didn't do him good. But if he still wants to, your idea is a good pattern to follow and only those with good winning percentage and accuracy should be followed.
Anyway, if it's clear that this won't be good in the long run and he's got some other plans to do aside from tailing the high rollers. Do the strategy that you're more confident and you think will work more than this strategy that's being tested out.

I don't think giving up will do any good maybe it was just a coincidence too that the one he trails lost for the day. As I've said, you can try it few times and observe if it will be good. Sometimes it's not bad to rely on others but yes being confident on your bets will just make you gain experience even on lose or winning side.

Well, sometimes giving up is the best option when you just keep on dwelling with losses and you can't attain it anymore. You don't see some light from it and that's why just to give up that discovered strategy is a good thing to do.
I agree with all of you've said but it all depends to the results and as per OP, he said that it's not working to him anymore and that's why he just have to leave and try something else that might work for him.

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Quote from: btc78 on February 09, 2023, 01:02:16 AM

it is not a strategy at all mate because you are only following other strategy , and this is too risky for small bettors because not like those biggies? they can afford recovering but what about lowbies? i don't recommend this to be my act in gambling instead I will rely in my own luck and judgement .

High roller's bet doesn't always correct too, trusting his prediction because of the money he was bet isn't a good decision. At least he need to explain why he bet that and his analysis, so it's make more sense to follow him.

But I'm mostly bet using my own luck and judgement too because if I predict wrong team/fighter, I wouldn't blame myself if I lose because the bet was created because of me, not from someone or stranger's mind.

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Quote from: blockman on February 07, 2023, 05:55:37 PM

I think I've heard from my bets that they're following high rollers for them to save time and as well as have that bit of confidence in their bets.
But as usual, there are pros and cons to this strategy. It is gambling and we all know that the chances are always there for both boats, winning and losing.
And if this is making you effective right now, there will be a moment in time that it won't be good as what you're experiencing. So, if it's doing good as of the moment then hit the momentum.

it is not a strategy at all mate because you are only following other strategy , and this is too risky for small bettors because not like those biggies? they can afford recovering but what about lowbies?
i don't recommend this to be my act in gambling instead I will rely in my own luck and judgement .

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Quote from: danherbias07 on February 08, 2023, 12:33:55 AM

Quote from: blockman on February 07, 2023, 05:55:37 PM

I think I've heard from my bets that they're following high rollers for them to save time and as well as have that bit of confidence in their bets.
But as usual, there are pros and cons to this strategy. It is gambling and we all know that the chances are always there for both boats, winning and losing.
And if this is making you effective right now, there will be a moment in time that it won't be good as what you're experiencing. So, if it's doing good as of the moment then hit the momentum.

Nah, it actually went bad. Results are mostly losing than winning so that concludes this is not really a good strategy at all.
I changed strategy now, I am trying long parlays with low-amount bets and trying to cash it out if I build a good win. It just takes a lot of effort to monitor it.

Quote from: Fundamentals Of on February 07, 2023, 09:20:30 PM

I haven't tried it. But this hardly sounds as a sports betting strategy. This is blindly betting. But for experimentation or curiosity's sake, you could indeed try it but for a small amount only. I myself imitated the bets of friends before without any idea. I also remembered I made bets on recommendations without really knowing the players, the teams, their statistics, and their level of skills, and even without understanding the sports itself. I later found out its boring that way.

Correct, blind betting. That's what really happened because I don't really look at what game it is, I just believed the high roller is doing it because he was sure about his bet. But I am wrong, they are not really doing it because they have higher percentages of winning but more like just normal gambling.
Maybe if I could find that one guy that I could follow then this strategy will be better.
Blind betting too because I don't know the game but only follow those who have a history of winning more than losing. Sadly, the privacy options for Stake.com is high as users could keep their names hidden.

How I wish I could also find somebody whose betting strategy is giving him a lot more wins than losses. The difference between wins and losses will have to be big, otherwise it is not worth following his bets. If his win-loss ratio is just 50:50 or even 60:40, I don't think it is worth following. I'd rather make my own analysis and prediction.

Bet amounts are also not a guarantee that the bettor is more or less certain of his bets. Small and big amounts in betting are relative. For a small-time bettor, $1,000 or $5,000 is already a big bet. To somebody who has so much money, the average bet could be as high as $100,000. And he's just even placing that bet for fun and without much analysis.

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Quote from: danherbias07 on February 04, 2023, 10:53:22 AM

Never did that. Honestly I was not aware that we can see bets of other people on sportsbook. I thought it was private Cheesy

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Anyways, I think that kind of betting is quite risky since you only based on their bet amount, not their winning rate from their past bets. Be reminded that there are people who bet huge just for fun.

I Know that not every casinos will support this kind of game. Copy game can also be very risky because nit everyone will be able to afford what the big boys gamblers are using to bets. This is a weak way to bet because gambling is not something that we will always think that will win. You can be betting and making good profits and suddenly you start making loses. That is how trading works sometimes even when you have substantial luck with you. The money we are making is not our money so we shouldn't expect to continue making consistent profits even when we want to copy trade.

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Quote from: Hispo on February 08, 2023, 04:59:31 PM

I have not tried such thing and I don't think I would, even if there were some good results at first, just because some user is a high roller does not mean they are always right. I would rather to be fully in control and have knowledge on where I putting my money.

That is only my personal opinion, of course.

They do have just the money that they could spend up big which its not usual for every time that you do gamble but we know that there are people who do put up huge amount on each bet.

You would really be having thoughts or feelings that they might really be that so sure in regarding into their bet and why they had bet out such huge amount which this is the
common thing that you would really be having in mind on where you do assume out that they are really that sure.

High roller doesnt mean that they are really that right and it is really just that they are really that having the money or deep wallet for them to do so.

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I have not tried such thing and I don't think I would, even if there were some good results at first, just because some user is a high roller does not mean they are always right. I would rather to be fully in control and have knowledge on where I putting my money.

That is only my personal opinion, of course.

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Quote from: rhomelmabini on February 08, 2023, 04:24:57 PM

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Quote from: rhomelmabini on February 08, 2023, 09:28:06 AM

Haven't tried it yet before but I think it's wise if you trail high rollers with good percentage of winning and not just some random high roller/s that has an n amount of bet. I think it would be rare if you find yourself a high roller that is good on his/her bets even if it's only one, just minimizing the risk until you prove it's good then slowly increase your wagers.

I think that he won't do it anymore as he has stated that it was unsuccessful and didn't do him good. But if he still wants to, your idea is a good pattern to follow and only those with good winning percentage and accuracy should be followed.
Anyway, if it's clear that this won't be good in the long run and he's got some other plans to do aside from tailing the high rollers. Do the strategy that you're more confident and you think will work more than this strategy that's being tested out.

I don't think giving up will do any good maybe it was just a coincidence too that the one he trails lost for the day. As I've said, you can try it few times and observe if it will be good. Sometimes it's not bad to rely on others but yes being confident on your bets will just make you gain experience even on lose or winning side.

Nothing beats the confidence one gets from gaining experience in a certain area, mostly gambling in this context. I say this because, although it is adviced that mentors be tailed or other worthy hands with tesmonial to the effect, be emulated/copied/tailed, the experience after careful study, pays well. One would be able to systematically adopt a style that is unique and rewarding in the long run.

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Quote from: tabas on February 08, 2023, 01:48:07 PM

Quote from: rhomelmabini on February 08, 2023, 09:28:06 AM

Haven't tried it yet before but I think it's wise if you trail high rollers with good percentage of winning and not just some random high roller/s that has an n amount of bet. I think it would be rare if you find yourself a high roller that is good on his/her bets even if it's only one, just minimizing the risk until you prove it's good then slowly increase your wagers.

I think that he won't do it anymore as he has stated that it was unsuccessful and didn't do him good. But if he still wants to, your idea is a good pattern to follow and only those with good winning percentage and accuracy should be followed.
Anyway, if it's clear that this won't be good in the long run and he's got some other plans to do aside from tailing the high rollers. Do the strategy that you're more confident and you think will work more than this strategy that's being tested out.

I don't think giving up will do any good maybe it was just a coincidence too that the one he trails lost for the day. As I've said, you can try it few times and observe if it will be good. Sometimes it's not bad to rely on others but yes being confident on your bets will just make you gain experience even on lose or winning side.

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Quote from: Mahanton on February 08, 2023, 03:35:00 PM

You would really be having these questions on mind on how the heck they do really consider out such kind of bet on where it is really obvious that winning chance or odds is way too slim.Yes, we've been able to see upsets but these things doesnt really happen often or everyday which we could really be able to assume out that sticking to moneyline would be always ideal or something that most people would be sticking on because they do know that it would most likely to win.On the time that you do see on how big they are betting on when it comes to those underdogs which it would really be leaving out some questions on mind
on how they do make out those considerations?

as far as I could see, these big bets don't happen on underdogs, but very often, but on events with even odds (1.80-2.20). if you get a look on some sites there are hundreds of that bets daily.

it worries me a lot when I see large multiples (for example 5 events in the same bet).
I personally see it as a way to lose money... an experienced gambler would avoid like the plague Wink

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Quote from: danherbias07 on February 04, 2023, 10:53:22 AM

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I know it's not right to bet on a game without knowing about it, I am just curious if someone does this kind of strategy.

I have seen sometimes these "hard" bets on several bookmakers that show bets ... but ... I have been always shocked for such heavy amounts on some multiples.
It's really hard these going to win (likewise x10 ...)
Most of gamblers explain with "people with broad wallet" but by the way I don't know how they can place such games Roll Eyes

For sure I will not copy these bets

You would really be having these questions on mind on how the heck they do really consider out such kind of bet on where it is really obvious that winning chance or odds is way too slim.Yes, we've been able to see upsets but these things doesnt really happen often or everyday which we could really be able to assume out that sticking to moneyline would be always ideal or something that most people would be sticking on because they do know that it would most likely to win.On the time that you do see on how big they are betting on when it comes to those underdogs which it would really be leaving out some questions on mind
on how they do make out those considerations?

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Quote from: Fundamentals Of on February 07, 2023, 09:20:30 PM

I haven't tried it. But this hardly sounds as a sports betting strategy. This is blindly betting. But for experimentation or curiosity's sake, you could indeed try it but for a small amount only. I myself imitated the bets of friends before without any idea. I also remembered I made bets on recommendations without really knowing the players, the teams, their statistics, and their level of skills, and even without understanding the sports itself. I later found out its boring that way.

Not really, it depends on how you react to it. but by the way, the OP is just experimenting and he only bets a limited amount. basically, it doesn't matter if we emulate high roller gamblers. most importantly, must be prepared with the risk. but if you refer to some of the bets that OP shared, especially football. there's honestly nothing wrong with that. in fact, I bet on the Arsenal team, just like the OP did. why, referring to what I know, involving insight, experience and not forgetting research plus analysis. it is only natural for high roller gamblers to bet on the Arsenal team, or over 1.5 goals, with a temporary score of 1-0. high roller gamblers expect Arsenal to equalize at 1-1.

Unfortunately, the result is not what we expected. the point is, in a match, there is no exact count to find out which team will win the match especially based on predictions. that is, it doesn't matter whether we imitate or the results of our own analysis. in the end, the final result will be determined when the match is over. related to winning or losing, isn't that part of the risk.

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Quote from: danherbias07 on February 04, 2023, 10:53:22 AM

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I know it's not right to bet on a game without knowing about it, I am just curious if someone does this kind of strategy.

I have seen sometimes these "hard" bets on several bookmakers that show bets ... but ... I have been always shocked for such heavy amounts on some multiples.
It's really hard these going to win (likewise x10 ...)
Most of gamblers explain with "people with broad wallet" but by the way I don't know how they can place such games Roll Eyes

For sure I will not copy these bets

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Quote from: rhomelmabini on February 08, 2023, 09:28:06 AM

Haven't tried it yet before but I think it's wise if you trail high rollers with good percentage of winning and not just some random high roller/s that has an n amount of bet. I think it would be rare if you find yourself a high roller that is good on his/her bets even if it's only one, just minimizing the risk until you prove it's good then slowly increase your wagers.

I think that he won't do it anymore as he has stated that it was unsuccessful and didn't do him good. But if he still wants to, your idea is a good pattern to follow and only those with good winning percentage and accuracy should be followed.
Anyway, if it's clear that this won't be good in the long run and he's got some other plans to do aside from tailing the high rollers. Do the strategy that you're more confident and you think will work more than this strategy that's being tested out.

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