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Quote from: Vaskiy on February 05, 2023, 07:16:54 PM

First of all it is wrong to bet on the sports or game in which you don't have knowledge.
Second thing, users with high bet amount are not here to win, but they're to enjoy gambling.
Third thing, atleast you should've researched little about the players involved and the win probability.

Finally a good learning for OP as well as we people that even when we do copy betting we need to have
some basic knowledge about the games.

Every bet has a history behind it, these high rollers bet because they also copy from other bets they just want to try their luck or they have done their research, so you are really gambling your money in an event that you have a good chance of winning if you dig your own research and he really knows the game, its good to experiment but int he end it's preferable to bet with your own analysis, this is not a lottery game but a game of analysis.

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I have only followed some bet predictions by some forum members here. Those high rollers are probably just gamblers like us but with a bigger bankroll and other resources. They probably have access to some special network too that gives them the best information available but not the kind of info on rigged or fixed matches.

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First of all it is wrong to bet on the sports or game in which you don't have knowledge.
Second thing, users with high bet amount are not here to win, but they're to enjoy gambling.
Third thing, atleast you should've researched little about the players involved and the win probability.

Finally a good learning for OP as well as we people that even when we do copy betting we need to have
some basic knowledge about the games.

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Quote from: ralle14 on February 04, 2023, 12:46:43 PM

I used to follow bets from high rollers that post their bets and it's only because that high roller was always hitting his bets and others started following him as well. It worked out for me at the time but I remember that high roller had a lot of losses since he also made parlays and teasers aside from the usual single bets. Even if someone's successful at this strategy it's only a matter of time until they lose since there are too many high rollers to follow and most of them don't show their usernames on the feed so you can't tally their individual record.

Most of the high rollers have already high experiences in betting that’s why they are confident to place high bets because they have well research on the match being placed. That sometimes following them could also lead us to succeed. But it’s not all the time that they are going to win, gambling is gambling, even veterans also make wrong bets and lose their money. That is why if we are not sure where to bet, then do not go into random betting or follow a high roller, study first the match and know the background of each team, that way you will have better idea which team have high probability to win and which team will mostly lose. This is good for sportsbetting, but for other games, still bet with caution to avoid blaming others once you lose your money.

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Quote from: danherbias07 on February 04, 2023, 11:53:22 AM

I know it's not right to bet on a game without knowing about it, I am just curious if someone does this kind of strategy.

Their only edge is their being high rollers and can bet a big amount of money but when it comes to betting and analyzing they are just the same as all the bettors, you'll already gambling so why not gamble with your decision so if you win you enjoy the money you've won and at the same time enjoy the feeling that you've won because you got it right.

I think not all rich people gamble high but many of them are in fact budgeting their money and this is why they achieve what they have now. On the other hand, there are poor people who can risk more especially in sports betting because they are too confident about their picks. If we don't have a knowledge in sports betting then it's better to do it this way than just betting on your own randomly.

We are already gambling so why we will gamble more when there is still a way to reduce the risk. Other than the strategy that we did earlier, reducing the amount that we are betting is also one of the ways to reduce the risk. It is a must though, with or without experience/knowledge.

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That was a brilliant idea but for me, I found it's riskier even if these guys are so-called high rollers or high bettors. Sports matches are unpredictable even how professional these guys are and looking at the screenshot that OP provided, the provided odds can be considered risky odds.

I'm sure these guys do have a good winning rate but it's just that OP got a bad timing copying their bet.

Out of curiosity, any good reason why should we consider betting on other sports that we don't know?

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Quote from: danherbias07 on February 04, 2023, 11:53:22 AM

Have you guys tried tailing high rollers with their bets on sports and electronic sports?
Because today I tried doing it just for an experiment and I took a bet on 5 games even without knowledge about them. I didn't put too much money into it because like I said, it's just for a trial.
It didn't end up well and these are the results. 4 losses and 1 win.

I copied the bet of users who are mostly playing above $1000 per bet. Some 1 Ethereum and the other with 0.1BTC if I remember it right.
So I thought, these gamblers are not joking about their bets, they must have researched hard and knew who has the highest chance to win or the end result of the scores.
Question: Has anyone been successful in doing this?

I know it's not right to bet on a game without knowing about it, I am just curious if someone does this kind of strategy.

You have to be extremely careful when following people on the internet because you don't know what is driving them or what their personal circumstances are. You might have a spoiled kid who's parents have given them an allowance of ten thousand a week, who simply throw up some bets on a twitter feed and pretend like they pick winners (then subtly delete losers later on, to give a false impression). Then you might have shills working for these casino/sportbook companies trying to discreetly drum up new business with a form of (pretty lousy) advertising. Then again, you might come across 1 out of a 1,000 people, who if you still have any money left by this point, might genuinely win 51% of their bets but you're probably not going to copy them long enough to make it worthwhile - there can be huge variance in such betting.

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Quote from: danherbias07 on February 04, 2023, 11:53:22 AM

Have you guys tried tailing high rollers with their bets on sports and electronic sports?
Because today I tried doing it just for an experiment and I took a bet on 5 games even without knowledge about them. I didn't put too much money into it because like I said, it's just for a trial.
It didn't end up well and these are the results. 4 losses and 1 win.

I copied the bet of users who are mostly playing above $1000 per bet. Some 1 Ethereum and the other with 0.1BTC if I remember it right.
So I thought, these gamblers are not joking about their bets, they must have researched hard and knew who has the highest chance to win or the end result of the scores.
Question: Has anyone been successful in doing this?

I know it's not right to bet on a game without knowing about it, I am just curious if someone does this kind of strategy.

I think that if you reflect on what you did (and what the result got), you yourself will understand the naivety of your actions. Would you really say if you won all 5 bets that "this strategy works and these guys who make big bets know exactly what will happen"? The result is unknown even for bookmakers which operate with tens of millions of dollars per game (and maybe more) and you are waiting for a "signal" from simple bettors who bet "serious" amounts?

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Quote from: danherbias07 on February 04, 2023, 11:53:22 AM

Question: Has anyone been successful in doing this?

3 months ago or less because I don't remember exactly, but I also found out through this forum that it had statistics on the High Roller, so I decided to copy them, it was during the times of the world cup games, I saw a guy who had bet 2000$ that argentina would win arabia, and i decided to copy his bet, to my surprise his bet was lost because argentina lost

The next day I once again went to copy another High Roller and this time I also lost, I started to wonder why certain people were spending so much money on meaningless bets? I discovered that they were meaningless bets because later I decided to research the games they bet on and I realized that they bet on meaningless games

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Quote from: darkangel11 on February 05, 2023, 11:47:53 AM

I usually don't do it, but at poker or blackjack tables you can place bets on other people and basically follow their betting live. One time I kept watching a game for a while and checking people's profiles and I found a guy who had over 60% all time win rate and observed him playing and he was really doing good, so I started adding my bets to his and after maybe an hour of going back and forth I had 20% more on my account. He left the table and I did the same thing. When I bet on sports I try to do my own thing, I don't follow others.

I have been away from poker for so long that this is the first time I heard about this, as we know unlike other games poker can indeed be a profitable occupation as long as you are very good at it, and since you are not playing against the house then there is no risk of your account being closed just because you are good at it, so it could be worth to look into this as if you can find a few good poker players you can bet on then you could make some money as well without knowing much about the game.

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Quote from: pixie85 on February 05, 2023, 03:14:43 PM

Quote from: crwth on February 05, 2023, 10:55:56 AM

I did this for a while and looked at the odds before I bet any money because that's how I would be successful in this type of betting strategy. I didn't continue because I had to use the money I was betting currently.

You have to be aware and never bet too much money that you will regret losing. Those high rollers betting probably have a lot of money to bankroll their whole gambling career. That's why they probably bet like that.

Make the decisions for them, but you should know the amount willing to lose every bet.

Betting with the high rollers is assuming that people who have a lot of money made these money gambling or that people who bet a lot are smart and know how to do it. Being a high roller doesn't show who the person is, how smart, how good at gambling. You'd need access to their lifetime stats to know that. Many people bet a 100 every day and they don't care if they lose because they another 500 a day and that's more than enough for them.

I don't follow anyone when I gamble. The only good thing about following others is that if you lose you can always say that a high roller lost more because he bet 10 thousand and you bet only 100 on the same thing.

This is absolutely true. This is why it's hard to follow high rollers because they will always have the budget to back up whatever losses they may incur along the way. They will always have a way to bounce back because they already have the money to fund their next bets and they wouldn't have any problems in betting on underdogs for a big win for the most part. I still tail bets, but usually on bettors that I know who wanted to win so bad just like I do. They do their research and have used logic before they lock their bets. Not saying that the high rollers don't do this, but most of the time they bet on some teams because they are a supporter of that team and nothing else.

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Quote from: crwth on February 05, 2023, 10:55:56 AM

I did this for a while and looked at the odds before I bet any money because that's how I would be successful in this type of betting strategy. I didn't continue because I had to use the money I was betting currently.

You have to be aware and never bet too much money that you will regret losing. Those high rollers betting probably have a lot of money to bankroll their whole gambling career. That's why they probably bet like that.

Make the decisions for them, but you should know the amount willing to lose every bet.

Betting with the high rollers is assuming that people who have a lot of money made these money gambling or that people who bet a lot are smart and know how to do it. Being a high roller doesn't show who the person is, how smart, how good at gambling. You'd need access to their lifetime stats to know that. Many people bet a 100 every day and they don't care if they lose because they another 500 a day and that's more than enough for them.

I don't follow anyone when I gamble. The only good thing about following others is that if you lose you can always say that a high roller lost more because he bet 10 thousand and you bet only 100 on the same thing.

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Quote from: danherbias07 on February 04, 2023, 11:53:22 AM

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I know it's not right to bet on a game without knowing about it, I am just curious if someone does this kind of strategy.

To be honest, i never tried to trail high rollers gamblers.
but I will take one example, and review it from the side of the gamble. referring to the first bet with over 1.5 goals, that's reasonable and very rational. why, I guess the gambler thought that Arsenal would at least be level at 1-1. because Arsenal controlled the game with 70% ball possession. but apparently, Arsenal could not take advantage of the momentum and missed many opportunities.

For the second bet, still about football and the same as the first. I also lost, in this gamble. however, that doesn't mean I follow gamblers who bet on high rollers. actually, there is a lot that we can review in this gamble and why the gamble we lost. but in truth, gamblers are not in joking mode especially those who bet with high rollers. It doesn't matter if you follow the bets made by other gamblers, the most important thing is that you also have to know and be prepared for the risks. because, in every bet that we predict and analyze beforehand, there are no exact, accurate calculations, like mathematical calculations. so that means, as long as the game is running anything can happen. and one thing is certain, in gambling, winning or losing, will always involve luck.

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I usually don't do it, but at poker or blackjack tables you can place bets on other people and basically follow their betting live. One time I kept watching a game for a while and checking people's profiles and I found a guy who had over 60% all time win rate and observed him playing and he was really doing good, so I started adding my bets to his and after maybe an hour of going back and forth I had 20% more on my account. He left the table and I did the same thing. When I bet on sports I try to do my own thing, I don't follow others.

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I did this for a while and looked at the odds before I bet any money because that's how I would be successful in this type of betting strategy. I didn't continue because I had to use the money I was betting currently.

You have to be aware and never bet too much money that you will regret losing. Those high rollers betting probably have a lot of money to bankroll their whole gambling career. That's why they probably bet like that.

Make the decisions for them, but you should know the amount willing to lose every bet.

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Quote from: danherbias07 on February 04, 2023, 11:53:22 AM

I copied the bet of users who are mostly playing above $1000 per bet. Some 1 Ethereum and the other with 0.1BTC if I remember it right.

No problem about the amount if you have it. Is luck you hope for.

Quote from: danherbias07 on February 04, 2023, 11:53:22 AM

So I thought, these gamblers are not joking about their bets, they must have researched hard and knew who has the highest chance to win or the end result of the scores.

Not joking but only taking gamble chance to win. If you have winning the week before you can play huge the next week because of available cash with you Grin

Quote from: danherbias07 on February 04, 2023, 11:53:22 AM

Question: Has anyone been successful in doing this?

Yes. You can copy and be the lucky to join winners for the week

Quote from: danherbias07 on February 04, 2023, 11:53:22 AM

I know it's not right to bet on a game without knowing about it, I am just curious if someone does this kind of strategy.

Some bet without about it. They will use only odd appetite for it but no strategy.

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Quote from: danherbias07 on February 04, 2023, 11:53:22 AM

Question: Has anyone been successful in doing this?

As you know, example: Everton vs. Arsenal yesterday with a score of 1-0, users who bet on Arsenal fell, Everton won.

All you do is gamble, guide other people's bets, you are prepared to lose, you really can't do that.
• Have you ever seen how users who are successful in big bets, deceive other users who want to bet by following their copies, for example: they say bet on club A, fact they actually bet on club B, this is really annoying.

My advice, try to bet according to your abilities and with the instincts you have, don't be guided by copies, follow the development of clubs, players and so on, it's better if you do.

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No, I have never done anything like copying other users' bets, nor do I think I will. Although I see gamblers making high profits by placing high stakes, it certainly doesn't make sense to copy their bets in any way without doing my own research or analysis. The reason for this is that gamblers who place bets with high amounts do not have a problem in terms of capital. These people may continue to bet with similar budgets after some losses, but as someone who personally bets using small capital for fun purposes, I may not be able to make up for it again in case of loss. For this reason, instead of copying the bets of these users directly, I prefer to bet by analyzing these bets.

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Quote from: robelneo on February 05, 2023, 07:02:56 AM

Quote from: danherbias07 on February 04, 2023, 11:53:22 AM

I know it's not right to bet on a game without knowing about it, I am just curious if someone does this kind of strategy.

Their only edge is their being high rollers and can bet a big amount of money but when it comes to betting and analyzing they are just the same as all the bettors, you'll already gambling so why not gamble with your decision so if you win you enjoy the money you've won and at the same time enjoy the feeling that you've won because you got it right.

Just the same with regular gambler indeed, they just have the advantage of having huge amount of money to bet and they are taking the big risk, but in terms of winning chances, it's all the same.

Might have that confidence to bet huge as they've got decent amount to continue betting while with ordinary
gambler, they are unable to push or to continue when they suffer huge loses.

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Quote from: yahoo62278 on February 05, 2023, 02:30:13 AM

If you're going to follow a bettor, copy their username. 1st you should probably write down their next 50 bets. It will be a small sample size, but see what their record is over those 50 bets and if they're above 70% win rate, they're worth tailing. I wouldn't risk betting just because they're wagering large amounts. They might just be betting for fun or see a good gamble.

Copying a username will be a problem. Stake.com lets users put their name on hidden. I would love to do that too but there's no way it can be possible.
But there is one name I copied for like 3 times already in the Stake.com chatbox (not in the highrollers display) and it never failed me yet.
He ain't a high roller because mostly goes for $30-100 per bet on a parlay, and upon studying the parlay/bet builder he made, it really does have a high chance of winning unless injuries will happen.
Most of the time, 3-4 lines, and the total odds are just 2.20 - 2.50. Considering the number of bets it should be higher than that, but because he is trying to maximize the chance to hit it, the profits get lower.

Quote from: Bitinity on February 05, 2023, 06:28:03 AM

Never, I have no good reason to do so. I have tried following other's bet few times, but what I followed is not bets from high roller. I preferred to follow small bet with high odds because it is fun. Surprisingly I've won it once long time ago when I followed a $1 bet with odds more than 200x. Of course it was just a luck for me but I have no idea how the player choose the markets on that parlay bet, whether he did it randomly or he did it with many analysis and researches.

I want to try this too but I don't know where to find them. There is no filter on Stake.com where you can search for those who are making long parlays with low amounts. It will be a big effort to monitor every bet that is being entered.

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