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Quote from: Distinctin on May 10, 2022, 11:18:37 AM

Everyone can but there's only few gamblers that have actually did it because of mere luck, it's just they need to know and understand that it's not an easy path towards that way and there's a very high chance that you could lose a couple bucks first before you win big time as we always have experienced. But yes, I do a agree that we should have to know our line and when to stop even if it's too tempting already.

The stories of those successful bettors and high rollers, we'll never know how much they've lost along the way. It's great to see them win such amounts and rolls high.
True, they have to control themselves and decide how much they're willing to lose within a day. If it's small for them and big for us, that's not a matter and it's still their money to gamble.

For average gamblers like us, what OP posted will make us envious and wished that we also have those winnings, you only won that amount if you bet a huge amount of money it's rare to see where you start with 2 figures and end up 5 or 6 figures richer, you are on 2 figure you just multiply that figure to 10 and that's the best that you can reach anymore than that you're in extreme luck, they bet huge so they win huge, for all we know the guy just double his amount, and we never know what follows after those bets or figure that we've seen.

You don't need to if your capacity isn't really that huge, these high rollers are getting huge amount of money on rewards since they risk huge bets too. Imagine if it's the other way around, then, they get huge loss too. The higher the risk the higher the loss or winning, it's that simple and that's nothing complicated.

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Quote from: arifteguhr on May 13, 2022, 05:58:01 AM

Quote from: madnessteat on May 13, 2022, 05:24:06 AM

When you come to the casino, you should be aware that you are likely to spend all your money, no matter what bets you make, what bankroll you have and what game strategy you prefer. If a person comes to the casino to win means he does not understand how casinos work or he engages in self-deception, which in the case of a loss will lead to severe frustration.

Those who come to the casino already understand the undeniable risk of defeat but greed is the main enemy of gambling. But they are also aware of winning at any given moment so all points in gambling should be taken into account and don't bet on high bets that are not ready to lose.

Getting addicted is the real problem here. When you play a x2 reward game only once, your chances of winning is around 48-49% depending on the house edge. Once you start to play lots of games, your chances of winning something becomes as little as 1% or 0%.

That's how the house edge works. It is there to protect the casino, not the player.

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Quote from: Distinctin on May 10, 2022, 11:18:37 AM

Everyone can but there's only few gamblers that have actually did it because of mere luck, it's just they need to know and understand that it's not an easy path towards that way and there's a very high chance that you could lose a couple bucks first before you win big time as we always have experienced. But yes, I do a agree that we should have to know our line and when to stop even if it's too tempting already.

The stories of those successful bettors and high rollers, we'll never know how much they've lost along the way. It's great to see them win such amounts and rolls high.
True, they have to control themselves and decide how much they're willing to lose within a day. If it's small for them and big for us, that's not a matter and it's still their money to gamble.

For average gamblers like us, what OP posted will make us envious and wished that we also have those winnings, you only won that amount if you bet a huge amount of money it's rare to see where you start with 2 figures and end up 5 or 6 figures richer, you are on 2 figure you just multiply that figure to 10 and that's the best that you can reach anymore than that you're in extreme luck, they bet huge so they win huge, for all we know the guy just double his amount, and we never know what follows after those bets or figure that we've seen.

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Quote from: arifteguhr on May 13, 2022, 05:58:01 AM

Quote from: madnessteat on May 13, 2022, 05:24:06 AM

When you come to the casino, you should be aware that you are likely to spend all your money, no matter what bets you make, what bankroll you have and what game strategy you prefer. If a person comes to the casino to win means he does not understand how casinos work or he engages in self-deception, which in the case of a loss will lead to severe frustration.

Those who come to the casino already understand the undeniable risk of defeat but greed is the main enemy of gambling. But they are also aware of winning at any given moment so all points in gambling should be taken into account and don't bet on high bets that are not ready to lose.

What is simple to say?

Only use money that you can afford losing because gambling is a place were losing is much expected than Winning .

So why need to furthermore the explanation when it is given about the way we gamble is the way we accept losses.

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Quote from: madnessteat on May 13, 2022, 05:24:06 AM

When you come to the casino, you should be aware that you are likely to spend all your money, no matter what bets you make, what bankroll you have and what game strategy you prefer. If a person comes to the casino to win means he does not understand how casinos work or he engages in self-deception, which in the case of a loss will lead to severe frustration.

Those who come to the casino already understand the undeniable risk of defeat but greed is the main enemy of gambling. But they are also aware of winning at any given moment so all points in gambling should be taken into account and don't bet on high bets that are not ready to lose.

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Quote from: freedomgo on May 13, 2022, 04:48:37 AM

We cannot really blame them because a lose is a lose no matter how much is that amount and they knew for sure that regrets is always on the last part, it is their choice. But gamblers will forget those losses as eventually those regrets will cease because there will be some time that they can will earn more than they lost that previous days but it's undeniable that there's more losses than winnings as it's a part of the gamble.

But in terms of acceptable loss of money on funds that are ready to lose, so gamblers don't think too much about past losses but they will allocate other funds that are not too high to return to betting on casinos, but most gamblers do not understand financial management and they too greedy to raise the bet because greed for high profits.

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Quote from: blockman on May 12, 2022, 05:06:09 PM

Yup, that's one thing for sure that we will never know.
As they gamble with their money, we don't know their goal and how they've acquired it. And if they've decided to gamble and losses it, they've foreseen it and decided that there's no going back and regret. But, some still do regret their decisions after losing. Well, who does want to lose with such amounts, we all want to win instead.

When you come to the casino, you should be aware that you are likely to spend all your money, no matter what bets you make, what bankroll you have and what game strategy you prefer. If a person comes to the casino to win means he does not understand how casinos work or he engages in self-deception, which in the case of a loss will lead to severe frustration.

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Quote from: blockman on May 12, 2022, 05:06:09 PM

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Quote from: Distinctin on May 10, 2022, 11:18:37 AM

Everyone can but there's only few gamblers that have actually did it because of mere luck, it's just they need to know and understand that it's not an easy path towards that way and there's a very high chance that you could lose a couple bucks first before you win big time as we always have experienced. But yes, I do a agree that we should have to know our line and when to stop even if it's too tempting already.

The stories of those successful bettors and high rollers, we'll never know how much they've lost along the way. It's great to see them win such amounts and rolls high.
True, they have to control themselves and decide how much they're willing to lose within a day. If it's small for them and big for us, that's not a matter and it's still their money to gamble.

We will never know how the player got these funds and we will never understand his goals, but I think this person was fully aware of the likelihood of losing these funds to the casino. I could easily spend in the casino some of the money I earn due to favorable circumstances on the crypto market. Perhaps this man, too, after a big deal, decided to relax and take a risk. We will never know for sure.

Yup, that's one thing for sure that we will never know.
As they gamble with their money, we don't know their goal and how they've acquired it. And if they've decided to gamble and losses it, they've foreseen it and decided that there's no going back and regret. But, some still do regret their decisions after losing. Well, who does want to lose with such amounts, we all want to win instead.

We cannot really blame them because a lose is a lose no matter how much is that amount and they knew for sure that regrets is always on the last part, it is their choice. But gamblers will forget those losses as eventually those regrets will cease because there will be some time that they can will earn more than they lost that previous days but it's undeniable that there's more losses than winnings as it's a part of the gamble.

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Quote from: madnessteat on May 12, 2022, 02:33:17 PM

Quote from: Distinctin on May 10, 2022, 11:18:37 AM

Everyone can but there's only few gamblers that have actually did it because of mere luck, it's just they need to know and understand that it's not an easy path towards that way and there's a very high chance that you could lose a couple bucks first before you win big time as we always have experienced. But yes, I do a agree that we should have to know our line and when to stop even if it's too tempting already.

The stories of those successful bettors and high rollers, we'll never know how much they've lost along the way. It's great to see them win such amounts and rolls high.
True, they have to control themselves and decide how much they're willing to lose within a day. If it's small for them and big for us, that's not a matter and it's still their money to gamble.

We will never know how the player got these funds and we will never understand his goals, but I think this person was fully aware of the likelihood of losing these funds to the casino. I could easily spend in the casino some of the money I earn due to favorable circumstances on the crypto market. Perhaps this man, too, after a big deal, decided to relax and take a risk. We will never know for sure.

Yup, that's one thing for sure that we will never know.
As they gamble with their money, we don't know their goal and how they've acquired it. And if they've decided to gamble and losses it, they've foreseen it and decided that there's no going back and regret. But, some still do regret their decisions after losing. Well, who does want to lose with such amounts, we all want to win instead.

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Quote from: KTChampions on May 12, 2022, 03:14:45 PM

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Quote from: KTChampions on May 11, 2022, 02:44:43 PM

As for money management, it is equally important at large stakes and at small ones, if millionaires were not careful, they would quickly cease to be millionaires.

I guess for this millionaires, they didn't become rich without knowing when to quit and when to continue. So for sure at certain point, if they are losing millions, they will stop and find another way. Maybe through investments to crypto or any other traditional financial market to recover what they have lost.

I think the mechanism is even simpler - the main thing is to avoid unwanted losses. I can afford to lose $100 without losing my life and I'm limited to that. Millionaires can afford to lose a much larger amount, but they also have limits. The simplest thing is to keep your millions than to constantly earn new ones, at least it seems to me.

If we are just average joes and thinking off about having millions then for sure you would really be finding ways for it to be saved but once you are on the actual situation
'then pretty sure that you would really be minding or thinking on what are the things you should really be dealing with and that do includes gambling.
Finance situation or capacity do really differs on each person whether they could afford on spending millions then its their money to be used.

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Quote from: btc_angela on May 11, 2022, 02:59:09 PM

Quote from: KTChampions on May 11, 2022, 02:44:43 PM

As for money management, it is equally important at large stakes and at small ones, if millionaires were not careful, they would quickly cease to be millionaires.

I guess for this millionaires, they didn't become rich without knowing when to quit and when to continue. So for sure at certain point, if they are losing millions, they will stop and find another way. Maybe through investments to crypto or any other traditional financial market to recover what they have lost.

I think the mechanism is even simpler - the main thing is to avoid unwanted losses. I can afford to lose $100 without losing my life and I'm limited to that. Millionaires can afford to lose a much larger amount, but they also have limits. The simplest thing is to keep your millions than to constantly earn new ones, at least it seems to me.

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Quote from: Distinctin on May 10, 2022, 11:18:37 AM

Everyone can but there's only few gamblers that have actually did it because of mere luck, it's just they need to know and understand that it's not an easy path towards that way and there's a very high chance that you could lose a couple bucks first before you win big time as we always have experienced. But yes, I do a agree that we should have to know our line and when to stop even if it's too tempting already.

The stories of those successful bettors and high rollers, we'll never know how much they've lost along the way. It's great to see them win such amounts and rolls high.
True, they have to control themselves and decide how much they're willing to lose within a day. If it's small for them and big for us, that's not a matter and it's still their money to gamble.

We will never know how the player got these funds and we will never understand his goals, but I think this person was fully aware of the likelihood of losing these funds to the casino. I could easily spend in the casino some of the money I earn due to favorable circumstances on the crypto market. Perhaps this man, too, after a big deal, decided to relax and take a risk. We will never know for sure.

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Quote from: Mahanton on May 11, 2022, 02:59:27 PM

Quote from: stadus on May 11, 2022, 01:31:51 PM

Quote from: Distinctin on May 10, 2022, 11:18:37 AM

Quote from: passwordnow on May 05, 2022, 03:31:29 PM

Yes, for small gamblers, we don't intend to gamble for fun at most times. We aim to win and take the profit with us whenever we're winning with those bets.
Sometimes, we do it for fun but you know that you're going to do it with a very little amount that you're not going to mind whether you win with it or lose it.

Depends on someones aims or motives because there are small amount gamblers who do really wishes to make their capital becomes big or even to hit up jackpots or big multipliers or something which do really falls out

into the category on aiming for profits and not really for the fun that they do really seek off.It all matters on someones perception or treatment towards gambling whether they do play for fun or simple for making money.HIgh rollers are normal because it would really exist on every casino which there are players who do really spend up money likes there's no tomorrow behind.

I think small gamblers can also win huge sums of money because as we know luck can come to every gambler, no matter if he is a big or small gambler. But if the gambler's goal is to hit the jackpot or a big multiplier or more, then he needs to rethink that it won't be easy.

Actually, we don't need to chase profit because what we want in playing gambling is the pleasure of playing the many games available on gambling sites. If we have got the pleasure, we should immediately leave or quit the game.

Everyone can but there's only few gamblers that have actually did it because of mere luck, it's just they need to know and understand that it's not an easy path towards that way and there's a very high chance that you could lose a couple bucks first before you win big time as we always have experienced. But yes, I do a agree that we should have to know our line and when to stop even if it's too tempting already.

But it is still wise enough to know not to rely on luck alone because there's really no telling on when and where this factor could hit you big time. It is still wise to control your emotions that chasing unknown roads.

There are also other people who is really determined to play and gamble most of the time until their day comes but yes, you're right, only few have only managed to hit the jackpot and we couldn't really tell if we can hit a big time money even once in our whole lifetime.

When you are having that lots of funds then i would say that probably you would really seeking off things for your entertainment and not to make more money but pretty sure that there are people
who do really aim for more despite on having lots of funds that they could really make use of.Its true that emotions would be the determining factor when making out decisions.
Whether you are already enjoying on losing lots of funds or wont bother yourself since you do know that you do still have lots.

Even for the ones who are only seeking more of entertainment despite of their losses cannot hide away the fact that they are also interested and looking forward to win big time even once on their whole lifetime but the chances of winning huge sums doesn't vary to those who only have few funds and for those who have a lot because these chances are still unknown when it would it you.

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Quote from: Distinctin on May 10, 2022, 11:18:37 AM

Everyone can but there's only few gamblers that have actually did it because of mere luck, it's just they need to know and understand that it's not an easy path towards that way and there's a very high chance that you could lose a couple bucks first before you win big time as we always have experienced. But yes, I do a agree that we should have to know our line and when to stop even if it's too tempting already.

The stories of those successful bettors and high rollers, we'll never know how much they've lost along the way. It's great to see them win such amounts and rolls high.
True, they have to control themselves and decide how much they're willing to lose within a day. If it's small for them and big for us, that's not a matter and it's still their money to gamble.

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Quote from: stadus on May 11, 2022, 01:31:51 PM

Quote from: Distinctin on May 10, 2022, 11:18:37 AM

Quote from: passwordnow on May 05, 2022, 03:31:29 PM

Yes, for small gamblers, we don't intend to gamble for fun at most times. We aim to win and take the profit with us whenever we're winning with those bets.
Sometimes, we do it for fun but you know that you're going to do it with a very little amount that you're not going to mind whether you win with it or lose it.

Depends on someones aims or motives because there are small amount gamblers who do really wishes to make their capital becomes big or even to hit up jackpots or big multipliers or something which do really falls out

into the category on aiming for profits and not really for the fun that they do really seek off.It all matters on someones perception or treatment towards gambling whether they do play for fun or simple for making money.HIgh rollers are normal because it would really exist on every casino which there are players who do really spend up money likes there's no tomorrow behind.

I think small gamblers can also win huge sums of money because as we know luck can come to every gambler, no matter if he is a big or small gambler. But if the gambler's goal is to hit the jackpot or a big multiplier or more, then he needs to rethink that it won't be easy.

Actually, we don't need to chase profit because what we want in playing gambling is the pleasure of playing the many games available on gambling sites. If we have got the pleasure, we should immediately leave or quit the game.

Everyone can but there's only few gamblers that have actually did it because of mere luck, it's just they need to know and understand that it's not an easy path towards that way and there's a very high chance that you could lose a couple bucks first before you win big time as we always have experienced. But yes, I do a agree that we should have to know our line and when to stop even if it's too tempting already.

But it is still wise enough to know not to rely on luck alone because there's really no telling on when and where this factor could hit you big time. It is still wise to control your emotions that chasing unknown roads.

There are also other people who is really determined to play and gamble most of the time until their day comes but yes, you're right, only few have only managed to hit the jackpot and we couldn't really tell if we can hit a big time money even once in our whole lifetime.

When you are having that lots of funds then i would say that probably you would really seeking off things for your entertainment and not to make more money but pretty sure that there are people
who do really aim for more despite on having lots of funds that they could really make use of.Its true that emotions would be the determining factor when making out decisions.
Whether you are already enjoying on losing lots of funds or wont bother yourself since you do know that you do still have lots.

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Quote from: KTChampions on May 11, 2022, 02:44:43 PM

Quote from: STT on May 07, 2022, 03:12:37 PM

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high rollers have an obvious advantage is in getting bonuses that depend on the amount of funds wagered

This equates to slightly nicer odds given to largest bettors so they do have a little advantage from that. Also when you do have alot of money or bet within your own budget then you are more comfortable and more likely to win as you give yourself time and space to do so. It doesnt have to be a case of outright advantage for the biggest stack but I think the smallest players require more caution, composition and planning to not exceed their limits.

Never heard of this, maybe you mean bonuses for high rollers? In my opinion, it would be very strange if casinos/bookmakers provided different odds depending on how much the player plays.

Yeah, I guess what he meant is bonuses as the odds are the same across for both whales and ordinary bettors.

Quote from: KTChampions on May 11, 2022, 02:44:43 PM

As for money management, it is equally important at large stakes and at small ones, if millionaires were not careful, they would quickly cease to be millionaires.

I guess for this millionaires, they didn't become rich without knowing when to quit and when to continue. So for sure at certain point, if they are losing millions, they will stop and find another way. Maybe through investments to crypto or any other traditional financial market to recover what they have lost.

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Quote from: STT on May 07, 2022, 03:12:37 PM

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high rollers have an obvious advantage is in getting bonuses that depend on the amount of funds wagered

This equates to slightly nicer odds given to largest bettors so they do have a little advantage from that. Also when you do have alot of money or bet within your own budget then you are more comfortable and more likely to win as you give yourself time and space to do so. It doesnt have to be a case of outright advantage for the biggest stack but I think the smallest players require more caution, composition and planning to not exceed their limits.

Never heard of this, maybe you mean bonuses for high rollers? In my opinion, it would be very strange if casinos/bookmakers provided different odds depending on how much the player plays.
As for money management, it is equally important at large stakes and at small ones, if millionaires were not careful, they would quickly cease to be millionaires.

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Quote from: Distinctin on May 10, 2022, 11:18:37 AM

Quote from: passwordnow on May 05, 2022, 03:31:29 PM

Yes, for small gamblers, we don't intend to gamble for fun at most times. We aim to win and take the profit with us whenever we're winning with those bets.
Sometimes, we do it for fun but you know that you're going to do it with a very little amount that you're not going to mind whether you win with it or lose it.

Depends on someones aims or motives because there are small amount gamblers who do really wishes to make their capital becomes big or even to hit up jackpots or big multipliers or something which do really falls out

into the category on aiming for profits and not really for the fun that they do really seek off.It all matters on someones perception or treatment towards gambling whether they do play for fun or simple for making money.HIgh rollers are normal because it would really exist on every casino which there are players who do really spend up money likes there's no tomorrow behind.

I think small gamblers can also win huge sums of money because as we know luck can come to every gambler, no matter if he is a big or small gambler. But if the gambler's goal is to hit the jackpot or a big multiplier or more, then he needs to rethink that it won't be easy.

Actually, we don't need to chase profit because what we want in playing gambling is the pleasure of playing the many games available on gambling sites. If we have got the pleasure, we should immediately leave or quit the game.

Everyone can but there's only few gamblers that have actually did it because of mere luck, it's just they need to know and understand that it's not an easy path towards that way and there's a very high chance that you could lose a couple bucks first before you win big time as we always have experienced. But yes, I do a agree that we should have to know our line and when to stop even if it's too tempting already.

But it is still wise enough to know not to rely on luck alone because there's really no telling on when and where this factor could hit you big time. It is still wise to control your emotions that chasing unknown roads.

There are also other people who is really determined to play and gamble most of the time until their day comes but yes, you're right, only few have only managed to hit the jackpot and we couldn't really tell if we can hit a big time money even once in our whole lifetime.

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