By the way ALU stands for Atriz,Lauda and Untold look pathetic team with all of them got shady backgrounds
Topic: hilariousandco, Mitchell,Vod,Ognasty Bitblisscoin.com could be a scamsite - page 9. (Read 8432 times)
April 12, 2018, 05:42:54 AM
To bad for the team of jamalaezaz where all of the people who works with him got neg tag while atriz team member doesn't get any. Feel pity for atriz since he became a fall guy to be blame if bad things happen..
By the way ALU stands for Atriz,Lauda and Untold look pathetic team with all of them got shady backgrounds
By the way ALU stands for Atriz,Lauda and Untold look pathetic team with all of them got shady backgrounds
April 12, 2018, 05:12:30 AM
i normally don't post much but this thread caught my attention[1]. surely atriz did the wrong thing by letting these icos get the better of the community[2], but he was not actively involved in the scamming[3]. what really seals the deal for me is the fact that atriz is actually willing to pay back investors from his own pocket[4]; i find that to be very admirable. full disclosure, i too also invested in one of the projects, but since atriz promises to pay us back, i have no problem in seeing him as trustworthy.[5]
[1] Fortunately, you are on their side or else his cronies would have started calling you a shitposter and newbie alt of QS. Also for someone "who doesn't usually post much" how old is this account?
[2] It's not that simple; he colluded with them in this scam.
[3] I believe it's the contrary, how do you know?
[4] For all we know he might be doing it out of the ill-gotten gains or he must be the one to have engineered these scammy ICOs (speculation).
[5] I don't believe you and I think you are simply out here to save him, he who lives by lying and deceiving, also I am sorry to inform you but you can go ahead and give him a positive feedback; but those who negged him might think otherwise; especially the DTs.
April 12, 2018, 04:48:25 AM
i normally don't post much but this thread caught my attention. surely atriz did the wrong thing by letting these icos get the better of the community, but he was not actively involved in the scamming. what really seals the deal for me is the fact that atriz is actually willing to pay back investors from his own pocket; i find that to be very admirable. full disclosure, i too also invested in one of the projects, but since atriz promises to pay us back, i have no problem in seeing him as trustworthy.
April 12, 2018, 02:37:32 AM
This begs the question, how the hell did everyone miss something this important?
Every time I encounter a new name on this forum, I read all their posts from the beginning to the end. /s Why so defensive? I wasn't referring to you specifically. However, i find it very strange that you did not deem it fit when valid questions about aTriz account were raised here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/atriz-decoded-cross-posting-from-scam-accusations-interesting-2313136 to investigate further.
You even took part in ridiculing posters that questioned if aTriz was bought.
PS: where is nullius btw?
Is s/he a judge of the forum? I think he is getting himself unjinxed.
nulluis was adamant aTriz is a naive jock that was misled by alia, something I did not agree with. In light of new evidence, he must be eating humble pie.
April 12, 2018, 02:33:22 AM
Can anyone with negative trust (especially ones tagged by lauda) just stop with their shitposting in this thread please?[1] You are adding nothing of value and you are only making your own cases worse by looking like revenge hungry high school girls.
At this point im not even sure what is being discussed due to the amount of irrelevant information being spewed out.[2]
Atriz had been suspended from ALU[3], his rep has been ruined which will lost likely mean he can't do any future work here[4]. Lauda had tagged the atriz account as well[5] so i believe, objevtively, they've taken all necessary steps.
Atriz has said he will refund any and all investors that got scammed which i think is great, im not sure i or a lot of other people would do the same if we knew our accounts and rep were fucked either way.[6]
What more is it that you guys want as i really can't see any reason for further attacks on lauda. If you believe that ALU was created by lauda and lauda alone together with a purchased account intended for scamming (to gain s whopping 0.2(?)btc), i gave yo claim you are grasping at straws.[7] Can't we just all drop this childish bullshit with the personal vendettas and looking to hurt someone we dislike the most with any means we have at our disposal?
[8]
This post got way longer than i expected and i apologize for that but imo enough is enough.
[9]
Edit; i agree with the negative trust that has been left for atriz, don't get me wrong with this post.[10]
At this point im not even sure what is being discussed due to the amount of irrelevant information being spewed out.[2]
Atriz had been suspended from ALU[3], his rep has been ruined which will lost likely mean he can't do any future work here[4]. Lauda had tagged the atriz account as well[5] so i believe, objevtively, they've taken all necessary steps.
Atriz has said he will refund any and all investors that got scammed which i think is great, im not sure i or a lot of other people would do the same if we knew our accounts and rep were fucked either way.[6]
What more is it that you guys want as i really can't see any reason for further attacks on lauda. If you believe that ALU was created by lauda and lauda alone together with a purchased account intended for scamming (to gain s whopping 0.2(?)btc), i gave yo claim you are grasping at straws.[7] Can't we just all drop this childish bullshit with the personal vendettas and looking to hurt someone we dislike the most with any means we have at our disposal?
[8]
This post got way longer than i expected and i apologize for that but imo enough is enough.
[9]
Edit; i agree with the negative trust that has been left for atriz, don't get me wrong with this post.[10]
[1]&[2] I'm not negged, but do you think that this is your forum or thread? You can walk out.
[3] Doesn't look like it.
[4] Good for the investors.
[5] Good on part of Lauda; that establishes the fact that even she is convinced of his scammy behavior.
[6] Possibly he's trying to salvage it and will continue using it like Jamal does.
[7] I'm not at all sure; but this is definitely larger than 0.2BTC; if we are speculating then I think it might be a long con which actually ended with alot more than he/she is letting us known (pure speculaiton on my part).
[8] Just because you are feeling uncomfortable looking at the larger questions that have been placed here, doesn't mean that this needs to be closed. I am feeling that most people who are jumping to his defence are themselves involved in such activities and want to have a safe precedent when they are caught.
[9] Please don't apologize, everyone has an opinion and they can and should air it. One should never apologize for saying something they firmly believe in.
[10] Thanks for clarifying; I believe he should be hauled by his ass to some jail and serve his sentence there. In my country lying for monetary gains when you are in a position of trust can get you a minimum of 3 years or a max of 7 years.
April 12, 2018, 02:32:21 AM
Atriz had been suspended from ALU,
This was stated by Lauda, but the fact that aTriz has posted multiple ANN/bounty threads subsequent to lauda making this announcement removes credibility from lauda's statement that aTriz was "suspended" aTriz was a bought account. [...]
Most likely, aTriz had obtained the private keys of the linked addresses [...]
I agree the account was purchased, this is fairly clear. Most likely, aTriz had obtained the private keys of the linked addresses [...]
I don't think aTriz has the private keys to addresses associated with the account from 2013. The reason being is that some of said addresses have had fairly substantial amounts of bitcoin held in them subsequent to the account being transferred. In fact, it appears that new aTriz transferred at least 0.2BTC to old aTriz subsequent to buying the account, which implies that new aTriz may have paid an extortion payment to cover up the fact he bought the account, which although I it is very wrong to extort someone, I find very ironic, considering lauda's involvement.
April 12, 2018, 02:21:10 AM
There really are some dull idiots in this thread, that can't put 2 and 2 together. Maybe people should look at the supposed leak docs, and look particularly at the surname, and then try to guess which country that surname is from, and it would be completely obvious it's not a bought account.
I don't have the leaked docs and never saw them, which country are they from?
Also, are you calling @ibminer and @joel_jantsen dumb and liars? Do you think that they are anti-ALU or paid by QS or OG-supporters?
April 12, 2018, 01:51:56 AM
There really are some dull idiots in this thread, that can't put 2 and 2 together. Maybe people should look at the supposed leak docs, and look particularly at the surname, and then try to guess which country that surname is from, and it would be completely obvious it's not a bought account.
April 12, 2018, 01:20:29 AM
aTriz was a bought account. Tons of proof available but people choose to ignore all of it, like how he went from USA to China back to Australia, apparently no coding knowledge, 3 year posting gap, etc. Ask Joel_Jantsen for more info.
Most likely, aTriz had obtained the private keys of the linked addresses along with the account somehow. He was always defensive when something regarding his account being bought as well. With any other bought account even with the slightest suspicion they would be considered to be a scammer and handed a negative trust. Not in aTriz's case, apparently.
But now that he's finished with aTriz he's just going to move onto the next account. Whether that be creating a new account, or buying one.
Most likely, aTriz had obtained the private keys of the linked addresses along with the account somehow. He was always defensive when something regarding his account being bought as well. With any other bought account even with the slightest suspicion they would be considered to be a scammer and handed a negative trust. Not in aTriz's case, apparently.
But now that he's finished with aTriz he's just going to move onto the next account. Whether that be creating a new account, or buying one.
April 11, 2018, 11:09:34 PM
Can anyone with negative trust (especially ones tagged by lauda) just stop with their shitposting in this thread please? You are adding nothing of value and you are only making your own cases worse by looking like revenge hungry high school girls.
At this point im not even sure what is being discussed due to the amount of irrelevant information being spewed out.
Atriz had been suspended from ALU, his rep has been ruined which will lost likely mean he can't do any future work here. Lauda had tagged the atriz account as well so i believe, objevtively, they've taken all necessary steps.
Atriz has said he will refund any and all investors that got scammed which i think is great, im not sure i or a lot of other people would do the same if we knew our accounts and rep were fucked either way.
What more is it that you guys want as i really can't see any reason for further attacks on lauda. If you believe that ALU was created by lauda and lauda alone together with a purchased account intended for scamming (to gain s whopping 0.2(?)btc), i gave yo claim you are grasping at straws. Can't we just all drop this childish bullshit with the personal vendettas and looking to hurt someone we dislike the most with any means we have at our disposal?
This post got way longer than i expected and i apologize for that but imo enough is enough.
Edit; i agree with the negative trust that has been left for atriz, don't get me wrong with this post.
Can anyone with POSITIVE trust (especially ones tagged by lauda) just stop with their shitposting in this thread please?At this point im not even sure what is being discussed due to the amount of irrelevant information being spewed out.
Atriz had been suspended from ALU, his rep has been ruined which will lost likely mean he can't do any future work here. Lauda had tagged the atriz account as well so i believe, objevtively, they've taken all necessary steps.
Atriz has said he will refund any and all investors that got scammed which i think is great, im not sure i or a lot of other people would do the same if we knew our accounts and rep were fucked either way.
What more is it that you guys want as i really can't see any reason for further attacks on lauda. If you believe that ALU was created by lauda and lauda alone together with a purchased account intended for scamming (to gain s whopping 0.2(?)btc), i gave yo claim you are grasping at straws. Can't we just all drop this childish bullshit with the personal vendettas and looking to hurt someone we dislike the most with any means we have at our disposal?
This post got way longer than i expected and i apologize for that but imo enough is enough.
Edit; i agree with the negative trust that has been left for atriz, don't get me wrong with this post.
You support to an Extortionist and ask us to keep calm?
April 11, 2018, 10:32:41 PM
Can anyone with negative trust (especially ones tagged by lauda) just stop with their shitposting in this thread please? You are adding nothing of value and you are only making your own cases worse by looking like revenge hungry high school girls.
At this point im not even sure what is being discussed due to the amount of irrelevant information being spewed out.
Atriz had been suspended from ALU, his rep has been ruined which will lost likely mean he can't do any future work here. Lauda had tagged the atriz account as well so i believe, objevtively, they've taken all necessary steps.
Atriz has said he will refund any and all investors that got scammed which i think is great, im not sure i or a lot of other people would do the same if we knew our accounts and rep were fucked either way.
What more is it that you guys want as i really can't see any reason for further attacks on lauda. If you believe that ALU was created by lauda and lauda alone together with a purchased account intended for scamming (to gain s whopping 0.2(?)btc), i gave yo claim you are grasping at straws. Can't we just all drop this childish bullshit with the personal vendettas and looking to hurt someone we dislike the most with any means we have at our disposal?
This post got way longer than i expected and i apologize for that but imo enough is enough.
Edit; i agree with the negative trust that has been left for atriz, don't get me wrong with this post.
At this point im not even sure what is being discussed due to the amount of irrelevant information being spewed out.
Atriz had been suspended from ALU, his rep has been ruined which will lost likely mean he can't do any future work here. Lauda had tagged the atriz account as well so i believe, objevtively, they've taken all necessary steps.
Atriz has said he will refund any and all investors that got scammed which i think is great, im not sure i or a lot of other people would do the same if we knew our accounts and rep were fucked either way.
What more is it that you guys want as i really can't see any reason for further attacks on lauda. If you believe that ALU was created by lauda and lauda alone together with a purchased account intended for scamming (to gain s whopping 0.2(?)btc), i gave yo claim you are grasping at straws. Can't we just all drop this childish bullshit with the personal vendettas and looking to hurt someone we dislike the most with any means we have at our disposal?
This post got way longer than i expected and i apologize for that but imo enough is enough.
Edit; i agree with the negative trust that has been left for atriz, don't get me wrong with this post.
April 11, 2018, 10:25:17 PM
Instead of Scamming from innocent investors, its better to sit with a bowl at Church or temple.
April 11, 2018, 10:14:54 PM
April 11, 2018, 05:33:31 PM
I looked at the post gap several months ago but had discovered aTriz was able to sign a message from a prior address after being questioned. Even though I do realize private keys can certainly be sold (and possibly stolen), this is pretty much the standard way to confirm the account is under control of the original owner.
However, as I re-think this, the signed message was not dated and should not have been accepted as proof.. for all I know it could have been an old copy/paste signed message that the original owner could have sent to someone in 2013/14. The 2013/14 version was pretty active in trading, and a signed message like this could have easily been requested back then and may not have had a date.
I may be overthinking this, but to be safe, aTriz, will you please sign another message from the address below, with today's date.
Also, I'd like to point out this post, which was deleted at some point after 2016 (maybe whenever the new owner took over?):
https://web.archive.org/web/20160412055259/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=135920;sa=showPosts;start=520
About half way down the archived posts, you will see the old aTriz make a post in a Crypsty thread, signing it as "- Adam"
In 2017, after this aTriz account was resurrected, an apparent dox happened on current aTriz which apparently claimed his name was Ke* Ma*. (I'm omitting since this is technically not "Investigations" but those who understand will know what name I am talking about).
Another threat of this same dox happened with alia due to, according to aTriz, a paypal-to-btc transaction he did with alia (naiveness??) which he could never prove with a transaction and this is what apparently exposed his personal information (Ke* Ma*) to alia.
I'm starting to think the account actually did change hands.
However, as I re-think this, the signed message was not dated and should not have been accepted as proof.. for all I know it could have been an old copy/paste signed message that the original owner could have sent to someone in 2013/14. The 2013/14 version was pretty active in trading, and a signed message like this could have easily been requested back then and may not have had a date.
I may be overthinking this, but to be safe, aTriz, will you please sign another message from the address below, with today's date.
Your funny. You might have noticed, I changed password before I start managing Campaigns and that was for my own safety.
Code:
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hello, this is aTriz from Bitcoin talk, and I am proving my identity
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1LjT88X7Zu8BdbqJw8vfRa83NJuzYL9kqm
Hw35+F6xdwDBoAcqkC4Bj5h591kacAfr6liVsWyAhAVBHttHXgk+gNkiZ7kqGlUrw4eOIySKUgRsVX//6BXoRJQ=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Also, I'd like to point out this post, which was deleted at some point after 2016 (maybe whenever the new owner took over?):
https://web.archive.org/web/20160412055259/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=135920;sa=showPosts;start=520
About half way down the archived posts, you will see the old aTriz make a post in a Crypsty thread, signing it as "- Adam"
In 2017, after this aTriz account was resurrected, an apparent dox happened on current aTriz which apparently claimed his name was Ke* Ma*. (I'm omitting since this is technically not "Investigations" but those who understand will know what name I am talking about).
Another threat of this same dox happened with alia due to, according to aTriz, a paypal-to-btc transaction he did with alia (naiveness??) which he could never prove with a transaction and this is what apparently exposed his personal information (Ke* Ma*) to alia.
I'm starting to think the account actually did change hands.
Even he can sign a msg on this address this guy still stay a serial Scammer and a big corruptor and not to be trusted.
I only wish that this is possible in other parts of the world.
In my country, China, this isn't possible at all. The money transmitting sector is dominated by big payment processors like Wechat pay and Alipay, and nobody is giving any thought to bitcoin at all.
This is a great decision by the Japanese government.
But at the same time, other countries are moving further and further away from bitcoin. Just look at how the central bank of China put all these regulations around the withdrawal of coins from exchanges etc.
Nice , your history started when you back on this forum on April 6 , 2017 with a suspicious account after been inactive more than 3 years , You bought almost all DT Members to get green trust,when you dont have a job you accused other bounty manager to steal your job.
You dont want to stop ,it seems you think all people are beggars. You going to open a thread to ask 2 or 3 beggars to bump your thread. Well i dont think all DT members are beggars we still have some trusted and respected members .
If the forum was the only way to make you earn money , you need to find an other alternative to earn money. i will give you this advise , take a break, go to the beach with your family if you have one .
You realy need to stop corrupt people with btc.
Nice , your history started when you back on this forum on April 6 , 2017 with a suspicious account after been inactive more than 3 years
It is a bought account or the account exchanged hands at some point. A cursory glance at its posts before April 2017, and it is clear as night and day that the person controlling the aTriz account right now is not the original owner of the account.
The original owner was co-owner of [Suspicious link removed], a mining pool that "claimed" to be hacked and stole 40BTC equivalent in alts from their customers: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/annpoolprofit-switchoptional-auto-exchange-per-coinvardiff-hashcows-293872
The current owner claims to have no coding knowledge:
I personally have 0 idea of any code, the most advanced thing I know regarding code is "!" means no in code.
Which seems bizarre, because cleary, the original owner has some coding knowledge/skills.
Also, the original aTriz was US based but the current reincarnation lives in Asia or Oz. This account has been involved in scamming from its inception and its ratings should reflect that.
My question to his fan club is: since the original atriz is a scammer and the current aTriz is one too, could they be the same person?[/b]
aTriz is paying back money to investors from his own pocket. If that isn't worth to get clean reputation back, what else would be?
Idont know if he can buy other DT members with some BTC , but the ned left by OG should stay forever to prevent this serial Scammer with multiple identities back on this forum to scam new investors .
April 11, 2018, 02:17:47 PM
LOL. You were the one who segwit wouldn't be activated. I said it would be. You were wrong. I was right.
Now we have resorted to outright lying. Are you turning into Quicksie? On a tech scale, you fall under the r/btc shill-technobabler. It is about aTriz being a purchased account to be used for scamming and you supporting the newly purchased account right out of the gate, using the account as a fall guy for your ALU supported scams.
Which is yet another lie. Are you deliberately trying to damage your reputation?You trusted an obvious scammer and joined forces with him for profit while people like myself were warning others.
Third lie.You're becoming really desperate. The collusion duo is trying every possible cheap smear tactic to spin this on me. Next time make it less obvious.
April 11, 2018, 02:15:11 PM
When you act before something happens, it isn't hindsight. You learn something new every day. Glad I could be your teacher today. As someone who claims their negative trust ratings are an asset to the community, you really screwed the pooch on this one. I find it hard to believe that any intelligent objective person could find you at all credible after this latest pie in the face moment. It's 100% clear now that no honest advertiser would come near ALU after this.
You absolutely had no idea whether he was purchased or not, otherwise you would have spoken out about it long ago. Furthermore, ALU has nothing to do with this. Do I need to remind you of the Pirateat40 schemes? Do what you do best. P.S. You were never a good teacher to anybody, especially not on anything Bitcoin-technical ("Segwit activates for the network when I upgrade my node"
).P.S.S. My ratings are way superior than yours, in every conceivable way.
Ouch.
LOL. You were the one who said segwit wouldn't be activated. I said it would be. You were wrong. I was right. I could give hundreds more examples where you've been wrong, but lets keep this thread on topic. It is about aTriz being a purchased account to be used for scamming and you supporting the newly purchased account right out of the gate, using the account as a fall guy for your ALU supported scams. I recognized this right away, and was attacked for it. Now that I've been proven correct, I find it hard to believe that anyone could think your ratings are superior to mine. You trusted an obvious scammer and joined forces with him for profit while people like myself were warning others. Now that the scams have been exposed, I don't even think you are delusional enough to believe anyone should ever respect your ratings again. Maybe you should have provided investment insurance for aTriz' scams, then you might have a leg to stand on. As it goes now...
I imagine your claims and actions will become more and more desperate as time passes.
April 11, 2018, 02:05:04 PM
I've been away for the last 3 days
Telegram campaign rules changed.
delete
Dude, are you trolling us? Of course you were here. ~
Ice Rock Mining
I was purely involved in this project as a campaign manager and was not part of any dev team so I do not believe I am responsible for said project.
Does this mean you were part of Bitblisscoin and Chrysos Coin team? Ice Rock Mining
I was purely involved in this project as a campaign manager and was not part of any dev team so I do not believe I am responsible for said project.
April 11, 2018, 02:03:04 PM
When you act before something happens, it isn't hindsight. You learn something new every day. Glad I could be your teacher today. As someone who claims their negative trust ratings are an asset to the community, you really screwed the pooch on this one. I find it hard to believe that any intelligent objective person could find you at all credible after this latest pie in the face moment. It's 100% clear now that no honest advertiser would come near ALU after this.
You absolutely had no idea whether he was purchased or not, otherwise you would have spoken out about it long ago. Furthermore, ALU has nothing to do with this. Do I need to remind you of the Pirateat40 schemes? Do what you do best. P.S. You were never a good teacher to anybody, especially not on anything Bitcoin-technical ("Segwit activates for the network when I upgrade my node"
).P.S.S. My ratings are way superior than yours, in every conceivable way.
Ouch.
April 11, 2018, 02:00:08 PM
...it was very clear this account was nothing more than a purchased account being vouched by Lauda to serve as an apparent fall guy should ALU services be questioned...
Hindsight 5/7. Intellect 1/3. I'll need another spray can.
When you act before something happens, it isn't hindsight. You learn something new every day. Glad I could be your teacher today. As someone who claims their negative trust ratings are an asset to the community, you really screwed the pooch on this one. I find it hard to believe that any intelligent objective person could find you at all credible after this latest pie in the face moment. It's 100% clear now that no honest advertiser would come near ALU after this.
April 11, 2018, 01:50:32 PM
Nobody likes pests in their environment.[1]
[1] Do you own the forum? You are not the OP. So please shut up or endure the so-called pests. Also, I find it hard to digest that you call me a pest(dunno for what) and gladly get in bed with scammers, liars, and cheats. Double-Standards! Not much is expected of racists.
-snip-
I've read it, and there's nothing to respond to.[1] What I think of aTriz is none of your business.[2] If you want others who are willing to infiltrate your privacy, including your thoughts, move to the US.[2]
I've read it, and there's nothing to respond to.[1] What I think of aTriz is none of your business.[2] If you want others who are willing to infiltrate your privacy, including your thoughts, move to the US.[2]
[1] Okay so ibminer is out of consideration.
Guess you used your spray can on him.[2] Thank God you are no longer a moderator.
[3] I don't have much privacy as it is.
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