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Topic: History of local boards - page 2. (Read 1967 times)

legendary
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Farewell o_e_l_e_o
January 09, 2020, 10:56:29 AM
#40
Okay. Thank you all with today information. Your replies boosted me to think of adding a new column - ex-moderators. I think it is relevant to add into the table in OP. Because the thread is for history of local boards, and we already have birthday, adjusted birthday, so now we should split the details for moderators into:
  • Moderators: for current ones.
  • Ex-moderators: for past ones.
One more thing to adjust for the table is adding URL links to those (ex-)moderators' profile pages.

I am going to let you know when I updated the OP.

As being said:
Go locals, if you find any detail incorrect or find new ones, please don't hesitate to let me know.
Lastly, if you need more details on merit distribution (a bit off-topic) on your local boards, let's visit that one (quoted below) and contact me if you need more details or want to translate that whole thread or specific parts of posts inside it or adjusting labels, titles on plots into your local languages.

By now, I made analyses for daily merits over five local boards only: Russia, Indonesian, German, Turkish and Français. If you need more for weekly/ monthly merits, please contact me.
legendary
Activity: 1932
Merit: 2270
January 09, 2020, 10:34:23 AM
#39
Hrvatski (Croatian)201Link31/12/2014NoNoLess active
"Croatian" thread was originally in "Local>Other" (Hrvatski) and thread has been created on the 1st July 2011. Nickname of account which started thread, musper, is slang. It means "sperm"  (good old Balkan mentality, never disappoints you  Roll Eyes). Croatian local board was created few years later, on the 18th December 2014.  First thread where its creation is mentioned is this one and thread was  open in less than one hour after Theymos announced new board.  First moderator was Lauda, and we don't have moderator since his removal (in 2017).

This thread is actually "happy new 2015!" thread and 18th December should probably be official birthday date (I used word "probably" because birthday could also be on the 1st July, I guess it is something to discuss).
legendary
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There are lies, damned lies and statistics. MTwain
January 09, 2020, 09:04:15 AM
#38
The Spanish local board has got a @Welsh man looking after it now, so we’ve had a change of mod, officially sighted as moderator there for the first time on the 01/01/2020 (must be related to @Welsh celebrating new year’s eve with a few gulps of Seaweed Gin or such).
legendary
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January 09, 2020, 08:13:44 AM
#37
phantastisch isnt anymore moderator in the german board !

At the moment we are Moderatorless there and hope we get soon a new one !
sr. member
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Merit: 354
I stand with Ukraine!
December 15, 2019, 12:38:54 AM
#36
I was not in the forum when each board born but as the others discussed, boards' IDs have no relation to their appearance orders.

But I agreed that there are some incorrect information.
legendary
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December 14, 2019, 02:28:43 PM
#35
I am sure there are still some errors in creation dates of local boards.
Given Ids, there is no doubt German board has been created after French board. Spanish board has been also created after French board.
Compare Ids of Polski and Greek boards. Their birthday in your list are 20/5/2013 and 30/5/2013 while their Ids are 142 and 120 respectively.
There should be some other errors too. 
legendary
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Farewell o_e_l_e_o
December 03, 2019, 07:36:56 PM
#34
Well findings, @Halab, and @malevolent. As always, if one finds new things or incorrect things, please let me know. I said please guys. It's your local boards, something like your favorite houses and your languages.  Smiley

@LTU_btc, as I read (but not remembered all words wrote by theymos), he requested new moderators for Japanese because he can read, understand and write in Japanese but only most common words & phrases. He is not able to Japanese-proficient enough to manage that local board.

There is another reason why local boards are rarely to be created. If there is a local board, there is demand to find a new local moderator. That's something challenging. Admin feels difficult to find new moderators for new local boards and current moderators/ admins sometimes don't know local languages to manage them (if they have time to do it).
legendary
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Slava Ukraini!
December 03, 2019, 06:10:58 PM
#33
Interesting topic. Japanase is last language that got sub -forum and from what I remember, theymos didn't wanted to add board for Japan, because he didn't saw enough activity. Probably in near future any new boards won't be added. In other languages and locations section there is only few topics who have some signs of activity.
My country probably will never get it. One of reasons is small population. In 2019 only 6 posts were made in our topic - it shows current peoples interest in crypto :/
And I noticed one interesting thing just now - our topic was started in June 2011, but first reply was made just in February 2012.
staff
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Merit: 2021
I find your lack of faith in Bitcoin disturbing.
December 03, 2019, 01:47:17 PM
#32
So I put my best detectives on the case and I am able to give a conclusion.

The french section was created on 1st or 2nd February 2011.

On this topic, we can see that the message was edited by sirius-m (*) on February 1st 2011. He changed the title:
Before edit : [French] xtranormal in French (look at the second message)
After edit: xtranormal in French
We can therefore conclude that this topic was created when there was no french section and sirius edited the message before moving it to the new french section.

And this topic is the first topic of the new section (a welcome topic which is quite logical).

Case closed Smiley.

(*) I can't find the user sirius-m in the complete list of users of LoyceV, but we can imagine that it was another account of sirius
legendary
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December 03, 2019, 01:39:31 PM
#31
Polish local board's adjusted birthday is sometime in July 2013, here's the thread: "Poland Subsection Needed".
staff
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I find your lack of faith in Bitcoin disturbing.
December 02, 2019, 06:28:19 AM
#30
@Halab,
Can you help me by asking for details and confimation from your locals on the birthday of your French sub-section, please.

I will ask, but there aren't many elders left from that period.

I put on my speleologist's outfit and continued my research :
I found this topic where Davout was the first moderator of the french section on June 21 2011 (the message from elelegzet confirms it and this one too). And on June 22 Davout asked for the creation of new sub-sections.

And I found this topic where on February 18 2011 grondilu says:
"For such a technical question you should really post in english on the support forum."
So we can assume (but I have no certitude) that the french section already existed on that date.

For fun, there is thistopic where Gavin Andresen met French people in Paris (too bad the links of the pictures are dead). But if he apologizes for not being able to write in french, it would confirm the existence of the french section on that date.

Sad that Webarchive doesn't go back before October 13 2011: https://web.archive.org/web/20111013175345/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=13.0

But for me the french section was created at the end of January / beginning of February 2011.


Edit :
The creation of the French section may not have happened in January 2011. Saint-Loup has found an interesting message :

Hello everybody,

[...]

Thank you,
Cédric

Hi Cédric.

If you're french as I suspect you are, please join the french thread on the "other" forum and let us know how you came to know about bitcoin.

legendary
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Crypto Swap Exchange
December 02, 2019, 02:07:46 AM
#29
NameIdLinkBirthdayA. birthdayModerator(s)Status
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________
Pilipinas219Link03/02/201601/02/2016 *Mr. BigVery active

It appears you completely missed part of my post that I was referring to the exact creation date for Philippines board (14/01/2016 [check #203 - #207 posts]).

Same goes for Philippines local board [most likely that's the case with other local boards as well]: Can the Philippines PLEASE get their own sub-section? [14/01/2016]

Perhaps you should also consider renaming "ID to Topic #" in the "Other languages" table and also change their board numbers to their respective topic numbers.
legendary
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C.D.P.E.M
December 01, 2019, 09:57:41 PM
#28

Can you help me by asking for details and confimation from your locals on the birthday of your French sub-section, please.


I am not sure but,
Back in February 2011 there was a few topic per day open in French.
The title were in french, not  referring to anything remotely English.


Also, the french board is ID 13,
It would make sens that it was created between the board ID 10 (russian - 28/7/2010 ) and the board ID 16 ( german 09/10/2010)

But with that being said, it looks like this message from 26th october 2010 was in french but not in a French board (the title is in english).

Un petit message en français.

Je viens d'écrire un article de présentation des bitcoins :
http://ploum.net/post/Monnaie-de-geek,-monnaie-de-singe

L'article (sans les images) est sous licence CC By.


Maybe the board was created but was hidden at the begging.



Also, this the oldest message I could find regarding the french translation of the white paper  :

Faudrait peut-être qu'on s'y attelle.  Le "white paper" de Satoshi est le document important qu'il faut lire et relire pour comprendre le fonctionnement des bitcoins.  Je pense qu'il serait important qu'il soit traduit dans plusieurs langues.

Je propose qu'on se répartisse le travail s'il y a des volontaires.

PS.  Rien  que le début, j'ai du mal :  comment on traduit "cash" ??


En tout cas, voici déjà ma version du titre et du résumé :

Quote
Bitcoin :  un système de monnaie électronique en pair-à-pair.

Auteur        Satoshi Nakamoto
Traduction :  grondilu

Résumé.  Une forme de monnaie électronique entièrement en pair-à-pair permettrait d'effectuer des paiements en ligne directement d'un tiers à un autre sans avoir besoin de passer par une institution financière.  Les signatures numériques procurent une solution partielle, mais l'intérêt principal est perdu si un tiers de confiance est toujours requis pour empêcher le double paiement.  Nous proposons  une solution au problème du double paiement en utilisant un réseau pair à pair.  Le réseau horodate les transactions en les hashant en une séquence de preuves de travail à base de hashages, formant un enregistrement qui ne peut être modifié sans réeffectuer la preuve de travail.  La plus longue chaîne sert non seulement de preuve pour la séquence des évènements constatés, mais aussi de preuve qu'ell provient du plus grand regroupement de puissance de calcul.   Aussi longtemps que la majorité de la puissance CPU est controlée par des noeuds qui ne coopèrent pas pour attaquer le réseau, ils génèreront la plus longue chaîne et surpasseront les attaquants.  Le réseau en lui-même ne recquiert qu'une structure minimale.  Les messages sont diffusés sur la base du meilleur effort, et les noeuds peuvent quitter ou rejoindre le réseau à tout moment, ils accepteront la chaîne de preuve de travail la plus longue comme preuve de ce qui s'est déroulé pendant leur absence.

J'ai choisi de ne pas garder "cash" :  quand on fait une traduction, on la fait à fond ou on la fait pas !  Pas d'anglicisme, donc.

legendary
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Farewell o_e_l_e_o
December 01, 2019, 09:08:57 PM
#27
You shouldn't use the first post/topic made in a certain language.
There are some posts made in a language that didn't have a local board at the time they made and then moved to the local board after its creation.
I know but as being said, I will use it for data analysis because it turns out to be more complicated to manually trace back when local boards officially created, at which post numbers in each boards. I don't have skills to do that so I stick with default birthday for analysis.

For correct birthday of each local boards, please use adjusted birthdays (if there are).

Additionally, for adjusted birthdays, I need more confirmations and information from others in each local boards because even you suggested it, your information might be wrong.

I found an error in your table. The link to the Ukrainian local Board leads to the Lithuanian section. It would be nice if you correct this in your table. Here is the correct link to the Ukrainian section: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ukrainian-236982
And correct its creation date: June 18, 2013
Thanks, I corrected it.
In fact, my data is correct (see), I just made mistakes in the table in OP.

@Halab,
But in the Staff section, I found a message, from June 2011, from the french mod at this time asking for new sections to be added.
So the anniversary date of the creation of the french section is somewhere in the first half of the year 2011.
Can you help me by asking for details and confimation from your locals on the birthday of your French sub-section, please.
legendary
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December 01, 2019, 07:09:45 PM
#26
Very nice thread tranthidung,
You just made me discover more on the origin of the Italian board!
legendary
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December 01, 2019, 03:28:55 PM
#25
For the birthday, I am going to use the day of first posts/ topics made for each languages. The reason is it will help me easier to make raw calculation based on the default birthday this way.
You shouldn't use the first post/topic made in a certain language.
There are some posts made in a language that didn't have a local board at the time they made and then moved to the local board after its creation.
legendary
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To the Moon
December 01, 2019, 03:14:17 PM
#24
I found an error in your table. The link to the Ukrainian local Board leads to the Lithuanian section. It would be nice if you correct this in your table. Here is the correct link to the Ukrainian section: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ukrainian-236982
And correct its creation date: June 18, 2013
legendary
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Merit: 3858
Farewell o_e_l_e_o
December 01, 2019, 01:18:13 PM
#23
Bump. I listened to your information.

For the birthday, I am going to use the day of first posts/ topics made for each languages. The reason is it will help me easier to make raw calculation based on the default birthday this way.

For adjusted birthday, I am going to listen to your information and update it later.
legendary
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November 29, 2019, 07:05:05 PM
#22
There is an error in creation date of Dutch board too. The creation date is June 09, 2012 not June 2011.
Here is the first post made on Dutch board.

Hallo mede Nederlanders.

Vanaf nu is er de mogelijkheid je eigen topic aan te maken in het "subforum" nederlands.

Wil je iets verkopen/kopen ("Markt"), iets te vragen of een intressante melding?


Maak dan een nieuw topic aan, dat maakt het forum een stuk overzichtelijker.


Heel veel plezier, geluk en wijsheid op het forum gewenst.



Groeten

I used google translater.

Første tråd

Google translator:

as of now, there is still not a single german word in this forum.


ups, "forum" -> fail

äh, verkackt  Grin

So, the creation date of German board is February 26, 2011.
legendary
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Top Crypto Casino
November 29, 2019, 06:45:48 PM
#21
The Arabic thread link which is posted in the OP, had been likely posted in a Non-Arabic board and moved to the Arabic board after it was created.
There might be some other errors in the OP due to moved topics.
Exactly. That topic was posted under Other languages/locations sub-section then moved -later- to the Arabic board (there are few other topics written in Arabic that haven't been moved yet).

If I am not mistaken, this was the first post written in Arabic.
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