Topic: Hoax is a hoax - page 7. (Read 2084 times)

Congratulations to the inhabitants of Maine! They've finally found the solution to America's high divorce rate. Margarine helps in relationships coz people feel satisfied after eating it and when that happens their brains release chemicals that prime them up for reproduction.

And margarine help with that too. It's used as a... you know what. It also stays in there helping the child slip out easily 9 months later. No more C-sections! And the child comes out with +50 IQ points because of the nutrition.

It's wonderful. The Japaness are going to replace the whale in their diet with organic, free-range margarine. Their birthrate will finally go up.

The 'lets make fun of stupid hoaxes thread' has one guy trying to argue that the world is flat and another insisting that the Bible is based on Science.  They aren't trolling, they  are serious. lol

The speed of light is real though? You can go back way further than 7,500 years just by pointing a telescope at the sky.

Can you give me an example of those two distance to the horizon tests being proven fake? It looks like a dude with a Nikon P900 at the beach to me. Anybody (with a super-zoom camera) can replicate these tests and confirm it's fact.

@BADecker relativity is a hoax, the University of Paris has repeatable experiments that falsify it.



"Prove all things; hold fast that which is good." -- 1 Thessalonians 5:21, KJV

These "tests" were proven to be fake a long time ago. Meanwhile, I still see these funny references in almost every flat-earthers thread.
"Tests" are done by various people but in same manner.

There's huge amounts of evidence, not for those things, but that people can say that the evidence is for those things.

Two hundred years ago, the several main sciences were separate. Professionals in one field didn't want to get into the fields of others. Electrical engineers wanted to stay in electricity. Physicists wanted to stay in physics. Medical doctors didn't want people of other fields in medicine. Chemists stuck with their own kind. None of these wanted to be farmers, and the farmers didn't want them in farming.

Gradually over the years the various fields of science merged at least somewhat. Because of this merging, we are finding all kinds of things that we never knew before.

Einstein's Theory of Relativity shows that Gravity Theory works with the Relativity of the universe. About a year ago, a physicist mathematician in Germany showed how Einstein's Theory of Relativity doesn't work with gravity when you get down to the size of the atom, itself.

The point? Further combine all kinds of things from all kinds of fields to the evidence of the major science theories, and you will be able to develop all kinds of other science theories that fit the same evidence that the current theories do. The only way we will find out what is right, is by going there.

The only way to find out if big bang is real, is to develop a space/time machine and go back there. But if creation by God is real, and if it is only about 7,500 years ago like the Septuagint and Josephus say, you will only prove to destroy yourself by space/time-ing yourself right out of existence.

I think we're going round in circles a bit. There is a huge amount of evidence for those things.

Religion doesn't stand in opposition to real science. Religion is simply something that is different than science, and way ahead of it.

There is, of course, some stuff that is called science, but it isn't really science... like big bang, evolution, black holes, the idea that stars are nuclear rather than electric plasma, and a whole lot more.

The only reason flat earth isn't in there is that it is easy to disprove. Nobody has gone to those other things to prove or disprove them.

I meant religion opposes science because religion is based on faith.

Faith being the opposite of science.

Science meaning truth obtained through evidence and provable facts.
Faith meaning truth obtained in the utter absence of any evidence or facts.

That's what faith is, right? The onus is on the individual to believe in say, the existence of a God, purely through word that has been passed down through the generations in a book written a couple of thousand years ago. If you say: I'll believe in God when he shows himself to me, then you don't have faith.

That's what I meant.

Can you give an example of the Bible opposing science?

You take it on faith that gravity is a fact in defiance of the scientific method, then you label gravity as science. The KJV says directly that the earth has "breadth" between its four quarters in The Book of Revelations; this is confirmed with the scientific method using a super-zoom camera such as the P900.

Just FYI:

"And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison, And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea. And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them." -- Revelation 20:7-9, KJV

Simple Flat Earth Distance to the Horizon Test - Part 1 - 1st Test -- https://youtu.be/X8YrYoCyw0g
Simple Flat Earth Distance to the Horizon Test - Part 2 - Retest and Confirmation -- https://youtu.be/GAdd4aidDbg

Religion is a good example, as it stands in opposition to science.
Science is just the name for truth proven by evidence.
Religion demands that science provides evidence, which it does by definition.
However if science demands that religion provides evidence that God exists, they can't. Apparently they don't need to... it's all based on faith... you need to provide evidence but we don't need to.

Flat Earthers, Atheists, Feminists, Anti-social, etc.

A lot of things can be said as facts, and those so-called facts can also be said as a hoax--false, hearsay, just like that (easy, right?). But then again, those who claimed that these facts are a mere hoax and false claimed facts they themselves do not provide "evidence" that these are indeed false claims, hence makes them a hoax themselves. I can't stress this enough, conspiracy (theory crafting) about facts being a hoax, in the end, are hoax themselves.

Heck, after reading all these makes me think that words in the dictionary are a hoax as well, that these didn't really mean what is written, and people who translate from language to another aren't accurate or correct at all. And when I think about it, "religion" always comes to my mind, that the "bible" we know now is just a propaganda of a hidden organization that is playing the strings of how the world works right this very moment.

I mean look at it now, "religion" has a huge influence.

It's a good point, and it's important to see both sides and challenge your own viewpoints.
It can be difficult though - what one side considers overwhelming proof, say on man-made climate-change, the other side sees fake papers, global network of climate scientists lying to us etc. Personally I see people linked to oil companies and establishment interests lying to us by denying climate change so they can protect their vested interests.

It's difficult. We each see conspiracies on the other side. All we can do, either side, is accrue and present what we think is evidence.

Regarding hoaxes and things that are called hoaxes, prove it.

Either way, prove it.

If you don't even look at the facts or evidence of both sides, how can you ever even begin to know if something is a hoax or not?

One of the best ways is to take it to a common law court of law, with people getting on the stand, and swearing to tell the truth. If we added execution for liars on the stand, people would be very careful to tell the truth.

What they believe is they believe and also they show it to others so some people who have a lack of knowledge from everything do believe easily. There's a lot of cons and prons of the happenings outside here or from hoax topic.

In my observation some people do make story for us to believe that other thing can be true even if its not based on how they present it even without evidence we believe.

Ok, guys, let's turn this way around. according to the study of science, mythical creatures are not real. in short, they are a hoax, what if they are not hoaxed? as they claimed. I'm talking about (Giants, Elves, Dragons, and Fairies) you guys always talking everything is a hoax, I can accept the other things but it seems too hard for me to understand why the other facts is also a hoax. every study of science comes at theory at first, if they can prove it after sometimes they can assure it as a fact and if they failed, they will make another theory out of it.

Indeed. For those of us who do believe in and are deeply troubled by (human-caused) global warming, Russia is a huge cause for concern.
As the climate worsens, you can envisage a lot of countries coming on board and starting to take steps to counteract the problem. Even the US, once that orange fuckwit has been impeached, and once they've had enough of flooding Louisiana and burning California, and when Miami is the world's first undersea city.

Russia though? I know they're not the cartoon villains they're portrayed as, but still, they gain significant strategic advantages by watching the rest of the world burn.

Another benefit comes from the Northwest Passage, a formerly unnavigable shipping route between Western Europe and Eastern Russia by way of the Canadian Arctic Archipelago. Crossing the Arctic Archipelago used to require a sleigh, but now that it's starting to become accessible by boat, the economic advantages to Russia are obvious.

Correlation does not imply causation.

It is a logical fallacy to assume causation based solely on correlation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Correlation_does_not_imply_causation

Actually, they don't. Because it will open the way for infections we don't have since 1930s, like malaria or other tropical diseases.
So it must be americans, they're trying to attack Russia with climatic weapon, just as usual.