Honestly, which is better? Monero or Dash? - page 2.

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Do you prefer chocolate or vanilla? Who cares, there are many coins that can obscure your transaction data on the ledger. It's 2016, and we are still talking about this??

"YAWN!!!"

Yet you post in this thread?

You appear to be dumbing down the real importance of verifying the claims of dash and monero concerning their privacy features.

It is not as simple as does one want Chocolate or vanilla but more so if someone wants a padlock or a vault.

There is a major difference.

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monero better good is compare and batle Dash
monero high community, solid community high volume transaction
so monero still the best is compare Dash

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Quote from: chennan on September 02, 2016, 06:52:44 AM

Quote from: bbc.reporter on September 01, 2016, 10:02:53 PM

Ring signatures are better than master nodes. It is better to look under the hood and try to understand how it works. I am not a technical person but a quick google search and 2 to 3 hours of reading all the articles and comments from each side it would be easy to see which is better. The answer is right there in front of you. I also did not know that research and implementations of ring signatures started on 2001. It was wise for the Monero development team to use it in their cryptocoin to find answers in unanswered questions since 2001.

How I personally view it, is that buying Dash is sort of like buying a timeshare for some condo some where. It is viewed as an "investment" that you might only use a couple of times, and whenever you are done buying whatever you need with Dash (I guess a soda?) then you sell your masternode/timeshare to the next person who is hoping the same thing happens.

Now I know you could argue that every crypto is the same way (buying and hoping to sell at higher prices), but it's the distinction of owning a "masternode" that controls inputs and outputs is what really turns me off from the whole Dash thing. Having one node that is better than the other one is just really... sleazy? (for lack of a better word)

An emerging problem with Masternodes is they are subject to law enforcement actions due to their for-profit money laundering scheme.

The Apple banhammer is just an indication of the start of Dash's problems with LEA. The crackdown has begun.

Roger Ver: "The discontinuation of Shared Send at Blockchain.info was due to threats of violence made by strangers in government."

https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/50t0jf/roger_ver_the_discontinuation_of_shared_send_at/

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For now i agree to vote in monero because i saw the chart that monero is boom right now and many people right now are choosing monero..
Check the coinmarketcap.. it is good to choose monero right now..

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Quote from: cryptodromeda on December 15, 2015, 07:51:47 AM

The ultimate showdown thread.

I feel Dash is better than Monero , because Dash price has more stability than Monero price , I also noticed that Monero price has pumped a lot in the last days , and this case is not natural in my opinion , and I think Monero can't save this price for long time , however , the competition between Dash and Monero is clear , and now Monero has surpassed Dash in marketcap .

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on September 01, 2016, 10:02:53 PM

Ring signatures are better than master nodes. It is better to look under the hood and try to understand how it works. I am not a technical person but a quick google search and 2 to 3 hours of reading all the articles and comments from each side it would be easy to see which is better. The answer is right there in front of you. I also did not know that research and implementations of ring signatures started on 2001. It was wise for the Monero development team to use it in their cryptocoin to find answers in unanswered questions since 2001.

Exactly.

But Monero is built on the cryptonohope codebase which is why after all this time they still dont have a gui wallet.

Shadow put ring sigs on a btc codebase and they are miles in front.

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Quote from: ridery99 on December 16, 2015, 09:30:11 AM

litecoin.

This is all more relevant now, with whispers of anonymous features being added. Darknetmarkets will pick up LTC before shit coins

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on September 01, 2016, 10:02:53 PM

Ring signatures are better than master nodes. It is better to look under the hood and try to understand how it works. I am not a technical person but a quick google search and 2 to 3 hours of reading all the articles and comments from each side it would be easy to see which is better. The answer is right there in front of you. I also did not know that research and implementations of ring signatures started on 2001. It was wise for the Monero development team to use it in their cryptocoin to find answers in unanswered questions since 2001.

How I personally view it, is that buying Dash is sort of like buying a timeshare for some condo some where. It is viewed as an "investment" that you might only use a couple of times, and whenever you are done buying whatever you need with Dash (I guess a soda?) then you sell your masternode/timeshare to the next person who is hoping the same thing happens.

Now I know you could argue that every crypto is the same way (buying and hoping to sell at higher prices), but it's the distinction of owning a "masternode" that controls inputs and outputs is what really turns me off from the whole Dash thing. Having one node that is better than the other one is just really... sleazy? (for lack of a better word)

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Ring signatures are better than master nodes. It is better to look under the hood and try to understand how it works. I am not a technical person but a quick google search and 2 to 3 hours of reading all the articles and comments from each side it would be easy to see which is better. The answer is right there in front of you. I also did not know that research and implementations of ring signatures started on 2001. It was wise for the Monero development team to use it in their cryptocoin to find answers in unanswered questions since 2001.

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Quote from: trickshot22 on September 01, 2016, 07:30:33 PM

in my opinion dash is way better though i invest only into it and nothing else

Spoken like a true blue, Kool-Aid swilling, cargo cult brainwashing victim.

No matter how much I like Monero, I'd never go 100% (IE "full retard") on any asset class, much less single asset.

No matter what, there's room in a portfolio for diversification into Bitcoin, gold, silver, platinum, and mining stocks.

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Quote from: trickshot22 on September 01, 2016, 07:30:33 PM

Quote from: mikhael on August 22, 2016, 05:04:14 AM

Dash and Monero are great in their own little way no matter what.

well yeah both of those currencies are really great to be honest, in my opinion dash is way better though i invest only into it and nothing else

Don't be too over confident with Dash, as much as possible it is better to diversify your investments in order to reduce risk. This is one of the golden rules of investing.

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Quote from: mikhael on August 22, 2016, 05:04:14 AM

Dash and Monero are great in their own little way no matter what.

well yeah both of those currencies are really great to be honest, in my opinion dash is way better though i invest only into it and nothing else

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Quote from: dinofelis on September 01, 2016, 02:59:15 AM

Quote from: iCEBREAKER on September 01, 2016, 12:09:26 AM

Passing the Howey Test is really an underrated "asset" in cryptocoins.

Dash just got banned from Apple Pay for failing it.

That means Dash is "very clearly running an unregistered illegal investment security."

I wonder whether THAT is the reason. Because then they should have banned the DAO too...

The real test of Apple would be if they accepted monero and ZCASH. Then we would know that it is not the anonymity but the financial structure, as you say, that was the reason for banning DASH.

BTW, ZCASH will, even more than DASH, fall in the illegal securities trap. Unless they rendered it legal.

Apple AppStore coins to be legal in the jurisdiction where they were created. The DAO was legal in Switzerland, but Dash is illegal in the USA because it fails the Howey Test.

The DAO was created by actual, registered companies (Slock.it GMBH, Bity SA, Ethereum Foundation) which paid the Swiss lawyers/regulators needed to establish a veneer of legitimacy.

OTOH, DashHoles are still trying to decide whether or not to pay a lawyer to figure out whether or not Dash (and its HYIP Masternodes) are legal.

Quote from: Taylor05 on August 30, 2016, 03:28:30 PM

Proposal: Legal (September)

https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/proposal-legal-sept.10457/

1) Legal opinion on the treatment of masternode block rewards under the Internal Revenue Code
a. Whether they are treated similarly to mining rewards, interest, or other tax treatment
b. Tax treatment of the initial collateral “investment”

2) Liability of masternode owners for the transactions they facilitate
a. Whether masternode owners may be responsible for criminal activities connected with transactions they facilitate
b. If so, under what circumstances
c. Whether participation in “mixing” services might give rise to criminal liability
d. If so, under what circumstances

3) Liability of exchanges that support Dash transactions and guidelines on meeting existing compliance
a. Whether an exchange might be held liable for criminal activity associated with PrivateSend transactions

Given Apple's lawyers have decided Dash is illegitimate digital trash, it's no wonder this proposal is highly controversial among the Dash cargo cult. Grin

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Quote from: iCEBREAKER on September 01, 2016, 12:09:26 AM

Dash just got banned from Apple Pay for failing it.

I wonder whether THAT is the reason. Because then they should have banned the DAO too...

The real test of Apple would be if they accepted monero and ZCASH. Then we would know that it is not the anonymity but the financial structure, as you say, that was the reason for banning DASH.

BTW, ZCASH will, even more than DASH, fall in the illegal securities trap. Unless they rendered it legal.

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on August 31, 2016, 08:56:09 PM

Anonymity is really an underrated "asset" in cryptocoins. This is funny because most of the people posting and reading in this forum do not think it is that important. Then what are you doing in a crypto based community? Are we not here to find new alternatives to money that can be truly be ours, that is not controlled by any government and banks, anonymous and free of censorship? If the price really matters to you more then it would be better to post more in the speculation thread.

Passing the Howey Test is really an underrated "asset" in cryptocoins.

Dash just got banned from Apple Pay for failing it.

That means Dash is "very clearly running an unregistered illegal investment security."

Quote from: TPTB_need_war on December 18, 2015, 10:27:35 PM

the SEC will be coming after [EVAN DUFFIELD AKA/DBA THE DARKCOIN FOUNDATION INC.] eventually for very clearly running an unregistered illegal investment security (and you come from the finance world so you know very well that you are skirting the securities law). Hope you've paid off the regulators with the $million you mined from the gullible speculators in crypto. Personally I don't see how it has been worth it. The $million you've perhaps pocketed will never sustain you to be rich for the rest of your life, and you will constantly have hanging over your head the threat of SEC action at any time in the future. That is criminal liability in exchange for $million. Not worth it. You are nearing the end of the road for your run.

I have studied the SEC regulations and all these marketing to speculators is clearly a violation of the Howey test for being an unregistered illegal investment security. It doesn't matter how you've obfuscated it by pretending the masternodes are in control, the Supreme Court has consistently said that the test overlooks any attempts to obfuscate the economic reality of the situation. Then on top of that is the evidence of deception with the premine and the advertised money supply protocol being altered ex post facto, etc.

And afaik [Evan Duffield is] a USA citizen, so thus you incur the maximum culpability.

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Quote from: electronicash on August 23, 2016, 11:59:01 PM

Quote from: Hueristic on August 23, 2016, 11:45:23 PM

Quote from: generalizethis on August 23, 2016, 11:21:50 PM

Quote from: electronicash on August 23, 2016, 10:56:44 PM

Although they both offer anonymity, I find Dash to be better lately. Apart for its price.
They also do have DASH DAO right now which somehow if going to be revolutionary and I like Amanda lol I wonder where they found her.

Dash's anonymity fails to meet end-to-end privacy standards, so offers inferior anonymity to Monero--pretty girls are hardly an argument for due diligence. Offering anonymity and delivering it are two very different things. Even without CT and kovri, Monero offers you the best privacy available--maybe you need less--cool.

DOA

The masses always catch on a day late and a dolla short. AFA XMR it has been so undervalued FOR SO LONG IT'S FINALLY GETTING THE ATTENTION IT DESERVED YEARS AGo

its gets attention yet the price still are not going up still. its what matters as what we users are up to.
it doesn't matter about anonymity/privacy anymore. bitcoin doesn't have that as well. if monero price goes up for maybe about $5, it may attract users but what other features does it have beyond that anonymity/privacy?

Anonymity is really an underrated "asset" in cryptocoins. This is funny because most of the people posting and reading in this forum do not think it is that important. Then what are you doing in a crypto based community? Are we not here to find new alternatives to money that can be truly be ours, that is not controlled by any government and banks, anonymous and free of censorship? If the price really matters to you more then it would be better to post more in the speculation thread.

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Quote from: electronicash on August 23, 2016, 11:59:01 PM

Quote from: Hueristic on August 23, 2016, 11:45:23 PM

Quote from: generalizethis on August 23, 2016, 11:21:50 PM

Quote from: electronicash on August 23, 2016, 10:56:44 PM

Although they both offer anonymity, I find Dash to be better lately. Apart for its price.
They also do have DASH DAO right now which somehow if going to be revolutionary and I like Amanda lol I wonder where they found her.

Dash's anonymity fails to meet end-to-end privacy standards, so offers inferior anonymity to Monero--pretty girls are hardly an argument for due diligence. Offering anonymity and delivering it are two very different things. Even without CT and kovri, Monero offers you the best privacy available--maybe you need less--cool.

DOA

The masses always catch on a day late and a dolla short. AFA XMR it has been so undervalued FOR SO LONG IT'S FINALLY GETTING THE ATTENTION IT DESERVED YEARS AGo

its gets attention yet the price still are not going up still. its what matters as what we users are up to.
it doesn't matter about anonymity/privacy anymore. bitcoin doesn't have that as well. if monero price goes up for maybe about $5, it may attract users but what other features does it have beyond that anonymity/privacy?

Price doesn't only go in one direction.

Healthy markets have ups and downs. Period.

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Dash has been largest market cap coin for 2 years, but this time monero has surpassed dash's market cap. So IMO xmr is better now. The market tells.

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Quote from: generalizethis on August 24, 2016, 12:14:20 AM

Quote from: electronicash on August 23, 2016, 11:59:01 PM

Quote from: Hueristic on August 23, 2016, 11:45:23 PM

Quote from: generalizethis on August 23, 2016, 11:21:50 PM

Quote from: electronicash on August 23, 2016, 10:56:44 PM

Although they both offer anonymity, I find Dash to be better lately. Apart for its price.
They also do have DASH DAO right now which somehow if going to be revolutionary and I like Amanda lol I wonder where they found her.

Dash's anonymity fails to meet end-to-end privacy standards, so offers inferior anonymity to Monero--pretty girls are hardly an argument for due diligence. Offering anonymity and delivering it are two very different things. Even without CT and kovri, Monero offers you the best privacy available--maybe you need less--cool.

DOA

The masses always catch on a day late and a dolla short. AFA XMR it has been so undervalued FOR SO LONG IT'S FINALLY GETTING THE ATTENTION IT DESERVED YEARS AGo

its gets attention yet the price still are not going up still. its what matters as what we users are up to.
it doesn't matter about anonymity/privacy anymore. bitcoin doesn't have that as well. if monero price goes up for maybe about $5, it may attract users but what other features does it have beyond that anonymity/privacy?

It's like saying, "...besides an engine, what does a motorcycle offer over a bicycle?"

Anyways: adaptable block size.

Adaptable block size is excellent features of the cryptnote coins. There is no need to worry about block size any more.

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Quote from: iCEBREAKER on August 23, 2016, 10:39:44 PM

Monero is the new hotness.

Odd simile for a fella called ICEBREAKER ~LOL~

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