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Topic: How 999dice.com is stealing your coins, and exactly why you won't believe me - page 3. (Read 41936 times)

jr. member
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Now site is downline, i think are big scam!, i los 1 btc here!
sr. member
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ibuku adalah segalanya(my mother is the best)
hero member
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I prefer Zakir over Muhammed when mentioning me!
Of course the hash when you click the button is going to pertain to all previous rolls but if you dont click the button you dont see the hash, when you click it then the site can chose a hash that pertains to all previous rolls and you would think they are legit

I doubt any dice site has that kind of computational power no matter how much they've earned. It would be like trying to use vanitygen to get 1UNPOSS1BLEADDRESS1234567890 and expecting it to happen instantly.

No uppercase 'o'.

Yes, really Smiley  No lowercase 'L', no uppercase 'o', no uppercase 'i' and no '0' (number zero).

If you used -i (case insensitive) it would have looked for 1koeLen (and 1KoeLen and 1KOeLen and 1KOELen, etc. etc.) - but the number it should have returned should have been very low then (as there's many more possible hits).  If you used it with the -r (regex), then I think it accepts all those forbidden characters, but it wouldn't give an estimate of when it would be found (if I recall that correct).
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newbie
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Of course the hash when you click the button is going to pertain to all previous rolls but if you dont click the button you dont see the hash, when you click it then the site can chose a hash that pertains to all previous rolls and you would think they are legit

I doubt any dice site has that kind of computational power no matter how much they've earned. It would be like trying to use vanitygen to get 1UNPOSS1BLEADDRESS1234567890 and expecting it to happen instantly.
hero member
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Forgive me for not reading through the entire thread and I might have missed a discussion regarding this.  About that issue where clicking the button that reveals the hash and them possibly doing "whatever the fuck they want" with the hash before you click the button.  The hash generated and viewed after you click the button should automatically pertain to all previous rolls as long as you haven't changed the hash, should it not?  A verifier would prove the roll numbers match up.  I don't see where OP's logic is in that argument, unless he just isn't aware of how it actually works.  Full disclosure: I've never played at 99dice.


Of course the hash when you click the button is going to pertain to all previous rolls but if you dont click the button you dont see the hash, when you click it then the site can chose a hash that pertains to all previous rolls and you would think they are legit
sr. member
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Forgive me for not reading through the entire thread and I might have missed a discussion regarding this.  About that issue where clicking the button that reveals the hash and them possibly doing "whatever the fuck they want" with the hash before you click the button.  The hash generated and viewed after you click the button should automatically pertain to all previous rolls as long as you haven't changed the hash, should it not?  A verifier would prove the roll numbers match up.  I don't see where OP's logic is in that argument, unless he just isn't aware of how it actually works.  Full disclosure: I've never played at 99dice.
hero member
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Yep i dont think its a scam either, i used to play there and it just seems that most of the people who play there are pretty dumb wich would explain why their profit is so high with such low house edge

Dice isn't a game of skill. Being "dumb" doesn't change the house edge. However you play the edge is the same, unless the site is cheating.

Haha... Thats so true. I know a guy who was trying to lose so hard. Betting "dumb" and he just couldn't lose and eventually went up A LOT.
So yeah , doesn't matter if u are dumb or smart , all that matters is house edge and ur luck Smiley .

But what does matter is if you quit or you still play there and when i was playing there the users in chat were always coming up with "new strategies" and they kept loosing their money and again and again, thats what i meant by dumb players

Whether you quit or not only matters to individual players. It doesn't affect the site's percentage profit. As far as the math is concerned all players are the same. One player playing for 10 hours is the same as 10 players playing for an hour each - you still expect them to lose 0.1% of everything they wager if the house edge is 0.1%.

But its not the same if someone goes there and loses 0.10 btc only to return with another 0.10 and lose again and after that again, doing it all the time, they just keep loosing more and more, if the player only came the first time and lost 0.10 and then quit then the site profit would only have gotten  up by 0.10
legendary
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Yep i dont think its a scam either, i used to play there and it just seems that most of the people who play there are pretty dumb wich would explain why their profit is so high with such low house edge

Dice isn't a game of skill. Being "dumb" doesn't change the house edge. However you play the edge is the same, unless the site is cheating.

Haha... Thats so true. I know a guy who was trying to lose so hard. Betting "dumb" and he just couldn't lose and eventually went up A LOT.
So yeah , doesn't matter if u are dumb or smart , all that matters is house edge and ur luck Smiley .

But what does matter is if you quit or you still play there and when i was playing there the users in chat were always coming up with "new strategies" and they kept loosing their money and again and again, thats what i meant by dumb players

Whether you quit or not only matters to individual players. It doesn't affect the site's percentage profit. As far as the math is concerned all players are the same. One player playing for 10 hours is the same as 10 players playing for an hour each - you still expect them to lose 0.1% of everything they wager if the house edge is 0.1%.
legendary
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Dice isn't a game of skill. Being "dumb" doesn't change the house edge. However you play the edge is the same, unless the site is cheating.

Haha... Thats so true. I know a guy who was trying to lose so hard. Betting "dumb" and he just couldn't lose and eventually went up A LOT.
So yeah , doesn't matter if u are dumb or smart , all that matters is house edge and ur luck Smiley .

When testing changes to Just-Dice I will sometimes try to lose, and it's hard. The 1% edge is tiny if you don't play for long.

The most effective way of losing is to play with a very low chance of winning, but then it can go horribly wrong and you win a massive payout if you're unlucky.
legendary
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Well if their stealing peoples coins then people should stop playing on sites like this and move on elsewhere.  I do not play such sites so I do not even bother to risk losing or having coins stolen from me if the sites rigged from the beginning ill stay well away from such places. Problem solved.
hero member
Activity: 1064
Merit: 505
Yep i dont think its a scam either, i used to play there and it just seems that most of the people who play there are pretty dumb wich would explain why their profit is so high with such low house edge

Dice isn't a game of skill. Being "dumb" doesn't change the house edge. However you play the edge is the same, unless the site is cheating.

Haha... Thats so true. I know a guy who was trying to lose so hard. Betting "dumb" and he just couldn't lose and eventually went up A LOT.
So yeah , doesn't matter if u are dumb or smart , all that matters is house edge and ur luck Smiley .

But what does matter is if you quit or you still play there and when i was playing there the users in chat were always coming up with "new strategies" and they kept loosing their money and again and again, thats what i meant by dumb players
legendary
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Yep i dont think its a scam either, i used to play there and it just seems that most of the people who play there are pretty dumb wich would explain why their profit is so high with such low house edge

Dice isn't a game of skill. Being "dumb" doesn't change the house edge. However you play the edge is the same, unless the site is cheating.

Haha... Thats so true. I know a guy who was trying to lose so hard. Betting "dumb" and he just couldn't lose and eventually went up A LOT.
So yeah , doesn't matter if u are dumb or smart , all that matters is house edge and ur luck Smiley .
legendary
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Merit: 1279
Primedice.com, Stake.com
I have won at 999dice.com.  I don't think it's a scam at all.  I think it's one of the best dice sites out there and I hope they never ever change.

Even if they weren't systematically scamming every user with rigged rolls I'd wager that the owner (Jake) who if he is who I think he is (Jakemcrs aka simpledice) is absolutely rigging the rolls of highrollers.

I still don't think an edge that low is possible with max bets as high as he's placed them. Also one thing we have confirmed is the fact that he's a liar and has not returned to bitcointalk after he promised to prove his bankroll/massive volume claims to this community. He said something along the lines of how I'd owe him an apology once he shows proof and then vanished forever.

I will say that I'm more confident that 999dice is a scam than I was of dice.ninja, dicebitcoin, or the variety of other gambling sites that have been declared proven scams.
legendary
Activity: 2940
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Yep i dont think its a scam either, i used to play there and it just seems that most of the people who play there are pretty dumb wich would explain why their profit is so high with such low house edge

Dice isn't a game of skill. Being "dumb" doesn't change the house edge. However you play the edge is the same, unless the site is cheating.
hero member
Activity: 1064
Merit: 505
I have won at 999dice.com.  I don't think it's a scam at all.  I think it's one of the best dice sites out there and I hope they never ever change.


Yep i dont think its a scam either, i used to play there and it just seems that most of the people who play there are pretty dumb wich would explain why their profit is so high with such low house edge
legendary
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I have won at 999dice.com.  I don't think it's a scam at all.  I think it's one of the best dice sites out there and I hope they never ever change.
legendary
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This kinda shows us that even the probably fair sites out there can do the same as well.

You just have to observe, and catch it before they are cheating you out or not. Which is pretty annoying in my view, this goes back to "Hey, you gotta check on your own" thing.

If you cant find it, oh well! we win, house rules etc.
legendary
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Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
That just seems like a guy who lost money and its angry about it, what did he expect in the first place when he started gambling? To be rich?


right. I am wondering why this post is not edited.

Casinos are not made to make you rich...Smiley

Of course casinos are not made to make you reach, but at least they should provide you with a basic level of certainty when you're gambling. That's why provably fair gambling thrived with bitcoin. 999dice had (and has) many flaws in its verification system. the 0.1% house edge seems highly unlikely anyway.
legendary
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That just seems like a guy who lost money and its angry about it, what did he expect in the first place when he started gambling? To be rich?


right. I am wondering why this post is not edited.

Casinos are not made to make you rich...Smiley
hero member
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That just seems like a guy who lost money and its angry about it, what did he expect in the first place when he started gambling? To be rich?
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