Topic: How 999dice.com is stealing your coins, and exactly why you won't believe me - page 4. (Read 41936 times)
March 13, 2015, 09:33:50 AM
All kinds of scams currently exist in various fraudulent schemes in the Bitcoin space
March 10, 2015, 04:52:30 AM
If anyone is interested in: I've written a bot that verifies each and every bet to be played fair. And it's client seed is set 'manually' right before a bet is placed without telling the server before betting.
Check out this response to keepinquiet's last find: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10722138
And the bots thread on this board is here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/trbt-another-999dice-bot-980826
Check out this response to keepinquiet's last find: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10722138
And the bots thread on this board is here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/trbt-another-999dice-bot-980826
February 28, 2015, 02:06:23 PM
UN FRIGGING BELIEVABLE.
999dice fixes their shit, and makes an unnecessary change that accomplishes the SAME crap they pulled before.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=971447.new#new
999dice fixes their shit, and makes an unnecessary change that accomplishes the SAME crap they pulled before.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=971447.new#new
Nice catch!
Are you saying they didn't used to overwrite your client seed each roll, and now they do?
I'm not sure it really matters. Even if they left your client seed alone they could still cheat by picking server seeds which play badly with your client seed. They still get to change the server seed to whatever they want each roll, right?
The only problem with the scam you suggest they're pulling is that it's exploitable by a smart player. If the site watches for patterns in your play (hi, lo, hi, lo, ...) and gives you rolls which deliberately make you lose, all you need to do is break the pattern for your biggest bets. If you just lost a bunch betting lo, then hi, then lo, the site will be expecting you to make a big bet on 'hi' next, so they'll give you a low number. So bet <50.5 instead. If they're trying to cheat you, you'll win.
It basically stops being a game of dice and becomes a game of rock-paper-scissors where both sides try to predict the other side's next move. The problem is one side is a dumb program and the other side is a smart human (that's you), so you should win.
February 28, 2015, 03:35:07 AM
Yes, I believe this is true.
Why? Because 999dice is the only website I lose ALL of my capital on.
Why? Because 999dice is the only website I lose ALL of my capital on.
All casinos are scam, ofc you gonna lose your money on them, but that doesnt make it a real scam
February 28, 2015, 01:02:24 AM
Deal with trustworthy sites only , don't send money to strangers that will 99% result in stolen money.
February 28, 2015, 12:26:04 AM
yeh.they steal my coins too....and now i am using dicenow.com which is far better from this one
February 27, 2015, 11:13:33 PM
if this is allowed to be more and more fall victim
# scams
# scams
February 27, 2015, 11:11:10 PM
please close the damn site
CLOSE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
CLOSE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
February 27, 2015, 11:01:06 PM
Yes, I believe this is true.
Why? Because 999dice is the only website I lose ALL of my capital on.
Why? Because 999dice is the only website I lose ALL of my capital on.
February 27, 2015, 10:38:17 PM
UN FRIGGING BELIEVABLE.
999dice fixes their shit, and makes an unnecessary change that accomplishes the SAME crap they pulled before.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=971447.new#new
999dice fixes their shit, and makes an unnecessary change that accomplishes the SAME crap they pulled before.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=971447.new#new
February 20, 2015, 05:18:26 PM
how you paid 
February 20, 2015, 06:04:19 AM
not a fair system
February 20, 2015, 05:43:40 AM
stupid if you play in 999dice.............
scammer bro u see profite site
profit 2347.54946745 BTC (site) CRAZY SCAMMMMMM
i am lose 0.5 - 0.7 btc
much RED(LOSE) if you try play in 999dice you stupid
scammer bro u see profite site
profit 2347.54946745 BTC (site) CRAZY SCAMMMMMM
i am lose 0.5 - 0.7 btc
much RED(LOSE) if you try play in 999dice you stupid
From your post the only conclusion i get is that you are stupid
February 20, 2015, 04:11:24 AM
stupid if you play in 999dice.............
scammer bro u see profite site
profit 2347.54946745 BTC (site) CRAZY SCAMMMMMM
i am lose 0.5 - 0.7 btc
much RED(LOSE) if you try play in 999dice you stupid
scammer bro u see profite site
profit 2347.54946745 BTC (site) CRAZY SCAMMMMMM
i am lose 0.5 - 0.7 btc
much RED(LOSE) if you try play in 999dice you stupid
February 18, 2015, 06:50:45 PM
From my personal experience, when I started there I won as expected. Won some, lost some. Went up 10+ BTC, lost it. Went up 15 BTC, lost it, went down 10... went back to +15 or so... and thats when the insane losses started. And me, assuming it was provably fair, deposited more, to try and win back those losses. A few times.
If a site that is programmed to scam you by hiding the provably fair numbers just ripped off your first deposit, you wouldn't come back and refer others to the site.
If you won some, and the site appeared to play fair for a bit, to the point that you believed it WAS fair, it's a lot easier to take the rest of your coins, and probably have you deposit more, too.
All I know, and can state for sure is this:
New player, site seemed legit for a bit.
Then massive, uncontrollable losses happened.
Figure out whats going on, start requesting the hash with every roll.
After winning back 61 BTC by requesting the hash, I'm banned from the site.
Again, no, not any PROOF at all, but thats one hell of an odd coincidence isnt it?
If a site that is programmed to scam you by hiding the provably fair numbers just ripped off your first deposit, you wouldn't come back and refer others to the site.
If you won some, and the site appeared to play fair for a bit, to the point that you believed it WAS fair, it's a lot easier to take the rest of your coins, and probably have you deposit more, too.
All I know, and can state for sure is this:
New player, site seemed legit for a bit.
Then massive, uncontrollable losses happened.
Figure out whats going on, start requesting the hash with every roll.
After winning back 61 BTC by requesting the hash, I'm banned from the site.
Again, no, not any PROOF at all, but thats one hell of an odd coincidence isnt it?
call the website rep.
February 18, 2015, 12:55:26 AM
This was a very good read, i figured they had been proven for scamming a long time ago, but it seems we finally have a semi-hard proof. Glad to see Dooglus on this too!
You know me ... anything to run down the competition...
(read that thread if you didn't already - it's kind of funny)
February 17, 2015, 11:12:34 PM
This was a very good read, i figured they had been proven for scamming a long time ago, but it seems we finally have a semi-hard proof. Glad to see Dooglus on this too!
February 16, 2015, 10:19:06 PM
All I know, and can state for sure is this:
New player, site seemed legit for a bit.
Then massive, uncontrollable losses happened.
Figure out whats going on, start requesting the hash with every roll.
After winning back 61 BTC by requesting the hash, I'm banned from the site.
Again, no, not any PROOF at all, but thats one hell of an odd coincidence isnt it?
New player, site seemed legit for a bit.
Then massive, uncontrollable losses happened.
Figure out whats going on, start requesting the hash with every roll.
After winning back 61 BTC by requesting the hash, I'm banned from the site.
Again, no, not any PROOF at all, but thats one hell of an odd coincidence isnt it?
Not really. It's pretty common for people to win a lot before losing it all back again.
And the site op claims he banned you because he was sick of your complaining, which is understandable too. I've tried banning people before too because I didn't want to deal with their paranoia. They never go away though until they're ready to. Banning them only makes them more determined to come back.
Not saying that the site didn't scam you, just saying that it's not clear either way.
The most damning evidence for me is that they took the provably fair JD design, deliberately changed it in a very specific way that makes it possible for them to cheat undetectably, and didn't change it back even when people complained about it.
February 16, 2015, 09:45:46 PM
From my personal experience, when I started there I won as expected. Won some, lost some. Went up 10+ BTC, lost it. Went up 15 BTC, lost it, went down 10... went back to +15 or so... and thats when the insane losses started. And me, assuming it was provably fair, deposited more, to try and win back those losses. A few times.
If a site that is programmed to scam you by hiding the provably fair numbers just ripped off your first deposit, you wouldn't come back and refer others to the site.
If you won some, and the site appeared to play fair for a bit, to the point that you believed it WAS fair, it's a lot easier to take the rest of your coins, and probably have you deposit more, too.
All I know, and can state for sure is this:
New player, site seemed legit for a bit.
Then massive, uncontrollable losses happened.
Figure out whats going on, start requesting the hash with every roll.
After winning back 61 BTC by requesting the hash, I'm banned from the site.
Again, no, not any PROOF at all, but thats one hell of an odd coincidence isnt it?
If a site that is programmed to scam you by hiding the provably fair numbers just ripped off your first deposit, you wouldn't come back and refer others to the site.
If you won some, and the site appeared to play fair for a bit, to the point that you believed it WAS fair, it's a lot easier to take the rest of your coins, and probably have you deposit more, too.
All I know, and can state for sure is this:
New player, site seemed legit for a bit.
Then massive, uncontrollable losses happened.
Figure out whats going on, start requesting the hash with every roll.
After winning back 61 BTC by requesting the hash, I'm banned from the site.
Again, no, not any PROOF at all, but thats one hell of an odd coincidence isnt it?
February 15, 2015, 09:32:31 AM
2.5 million doge is a really big sum of money already so if in fact they let new players win means that you can create new accounts and win in all of them
That's ~1.5 bitcoin. Definitely not a fortune.
No one will deposit all their funds on the site they don't trust. So it's better for the site to let big players win (or not scam them straight away) as there's a big chance they'll be back with more funds.
You won't be creating new account each time unless you know the site is a scam. But if you know that, you won't be playing there at all.
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