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I don't understand irresponsible agents like that even though they have been trusted by the platform to be agents in casinos which may have a lot of user. They should fulfill their mandate and not try to deceive their users. Indeed, human nature is sometimes like that if they have seen money in large amounts, various evil intentions began to come to mind so that all means were justified to be able to get the amount of money they were going to get, the amount of money that the young man won was very large in my local currency so it was natural that there would be people trying to cheat him, even the agent and fortunately the agent did not flee abroad because that amount of money could have been taken abroad and this should be brought to court so that appropriate punishment can be given.

Indeed, that is the risk if we gamble through an agent because to anticipate things like this it might not be a problem if the winnings are within reasonable limits, but if the winnings are thousands of thousands of dollars then this could trigger someone to do evil things and possibly cheat the user.
legendary
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I don't think the betting platform is to be blamed. If the platform paid the winner through its workers but the workers stole the money away, it's probably not the platform that is to be prosecuted but those who stole the money. The platform, provided it's licensed, operated in good faith and was honest in dealing with its players.

I'm responding as if the case is this simple. There might be certain details of the case in reality that I don't know. In the end, the court might still require the platform to pay the gambler the winning amount while the court hears the case. But it would get it back once the money is seized from the criminals.
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I'm just curious though, why are people using a "betting agent" when it's easy to open an account online and start to gamble? Can you specify from what country this incident happen?
Not sure with these but in betting shops probably they're like the affiliates and the bettors/gamblers can cashout/deposit through them and they earn commissions from those. So, agents are like the middlemen of the betting shop and the gamblers. It's an opportunity probably given by the casino alone to also get some free marketing. To those bettors, you need to have a trusted agent if this is the way you gamble. Otherwise, just gamble online and you need not to go through with these agents and you can go directly and gamble against the casino.

How do you bring pain to another human and you still sleep well at night?
Con artists will just ignore to answer that question. They're even bringing food to their family's table with those money that they've stolen so, they can easily sleep at night. It will only bother them if it happens to them directly or someone from their family have been bothered by the same tactic and scheme that they do. That's why if they can sleep at night well, it's just temporary and karma will hit them hardly for sure.
legendary
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I'm just curious though, why are people using a "betting agent" when it's easy to open an account online and start to gamble? Can you specify from what country this incident happen?

As to the story or news, I think everyone has to be blame as they all have responsibility to each other, the betting shop and the agent. Now, this one was already taken to the court, I'm hoping the justice system is fair and their will be decision as soon as possible, but that's my take.
I'm not 100% certain but I think it happens due to local restrictions for cash transfers.

Some countries are very restrictive and protectionist with how cash moves out of their economy, so people often find agents that have some sort of loophole to transfer cash in and out to do the job for them.
It's for the same reasons that in many countries money mules are a more efficient way to transfer cash than create a bank account, which is only reserved for the elite. It's a weird world we're living in actually.
Thankfully crypto casinos solve this.
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That is why is very important to know the kind of betting agent (local betting shop) we are using, and this can likely happen when we are using a traditional way of gambling. I don't think this may likely happened to an online casino where you have to cash out whatever amount you have won provided that you pass kyc.
The major problems people mostly face in online casino is just kyc issues apart from that i don't think there is anything wrong with that, but offline has a very big disadvantage concerning paying out to their customers.
Maybe next time the victim should learned how to use online gambling platform then he can avoid all these grammars from local shops and agencies.
sr. member
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When I read similar stories as this, I being to ponder on why I share the same air with such despicable humans with zero form of humanity in them. How do you bring pain to another human and you still sleep well at night? The perpetrations of these crime are the type of people who if they hadn't tried to rip off the winner through this means, they would have send, armed robbers to his home address to steal the cash from him. Of course that is the kind of risk that individuals who win such huge amount from gambling face. On the other hand, I am glad that this is not a story with a sad ending. Justice is being served and it makes me happy.
legendary
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would it be different if the man hadn't requested to convert the local currency to USD?  because i think the attendant would have given him the entire amount if it was just Naira. things like this won't happen when the economy is not so bad.

and he was too trusting of Adetola, she must be a sexy lady that he fancied so much that he wanted to go back the next days. only to find out, that this lady is the one scamming him. is it even true that the boss went abroad?
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People trying to scam others in the betting market. There is nothing new about it, to be honest. Unfortunately, this is a very common think, specially when dealing with crypto casinos, I assume it was not the case though.
To me the most impressive thing in this case it is the fact those who alledgely tried to steal the money are facing an actual process of prosecution and they did not easily go away with it.

People should don't just try to gamble or bet important amounts about of reliable and trusted casinos with a proved track record, in my opinion. Even if a casino or betting agent seem to be very professional, one is supposed to take a look at the track record of them before even considering to deposit over some hundreds of dollars, which could be translated to thousands of dollars in the case we successfully call the results of some matches. Let us be this to be another cautionary story and won't let scammers to continue to feed from out hard earned money...  
hero member
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The problem with this kind of betting is that such client would have trust on the betting agent and would not collect their betting ticket and so that will make it more difficult to prove because the client will only rely on words of mouth and not document like the betting ticket. He might have been playing through that way and winning little money but this time is huge and those agent want to connive to scam him.

We have to be careful with some agents that we play through because things are difficult and a greedy agent might want to take such advantage. Moreover, some agents may not bet the game believing that it won't win.

And then it's going to be his words against the attendant's word in the end.  How can people be so bold to do this in our time, aren't there cameras everywhere already that its documented that the attendant received the ticket?  Lukman also is like the most naive man while also a gambler, hard to fathom this combination.

And worse is that the suspects bailed and they could just disappear into the wilderness and then the winner is left with nothing and still has to pay the lawyer this March 4.
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It was a bad experience that those people received because they couldn't get their money. He had trusted the wrong betting agent, so he had this problem. Gambling can turn someone into a greedy person after seeing an opportunity to get someone else's winnings instead of giving it to the winner. Perhaps this is because the betting agent has been operating for a long time, and many people have used it without problems, so they trust it because they can place bets through the betting agent. But it made people greedy when someone got a big win, so they didn't want to give their money. Sadly, something like that had to happen, but this is a lesson for everyone to be more careful in choosing their betting agent and not just trust them. We don't know whether the winner can get the money or the money will still be lost, but hopefully, he can get the winning money.
legendary
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If proven guilty, these people should give back the money that should have been won by the complainant. And maybe more, for the stress they gave him, the mental damages, and the payment to the lawyer who will make sure they win the case. Then maybe some prison time too so they will learn their lesson.

Money does many things to people.
Some will not work fairly just to get what they want in a quicker method. The sad part is this ain't even millions of US dollars and they bite it. Now, they will be out of work, and maybe they will be imprisoned if it is proven to be true.
What I want to hear is from the owner if he really paid the money that is supposed to be for the complainant. Maybe that will put an end to this once they reach him.
If he did, it would be a big trouble for those two and those who run away after taking a part of that money. That's a lot of things that will definitely change their lives from good to bad for just making that mistake. Maybe they thought the winner would not take it to court but they got it all wrong.
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The problem with this kind of betting is that such client would have trust on the betting agent and would not collect their betting ticket and so that will make it more difficult to prove because the client will only rely on words of mouth and not document like the betting ticket. He might have been playing through that way and winning little money but this time is huge and those agent want to connive to scam him.

We have to be careful with some agents that we play through because things are difficult and a greedy agent might want to take such advantage. Moreover, some agents may not bet the game believing that it won't win.
legendary
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The betting platform is not to be blamed as the victim gambled using a betting agent? But he went to their betting site headquarter with no help given.
Such cases often occur, if a user places a large winning bet, sometimes the agent who covers the gambling winnings for many bettors does not want to take responsibility, they like to associate certain gambling shops to convince users, the actual fact is that the gambling shop never knows anything about the agent, it is an unofficial agent.

For this reason, betting with illegal agents risks losing, they are not responsible for large amounts, they only pay small winnings, so it is natural that gambling shops do not have a solution for cases like that, they are free from responsibility, because the agent is not registered with their shop, so be careful when placing bets, look for an official agent from the relevant gambling shop to be accountable.
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Some betting agents have taken it upon themselves to steal customers wins, and give them flamsy excuses, so that the money will not be paid. It is good that the bettor took them to court, because that is the only way that he can get his money from the bet agents. I don't blame the head quarters for not handling the issue. This is because, they have already paid out the money and it is no longer their concern anymore, and similar cases must have happened which they most have learnt the best way to handle it. The headquarters are not spoiling their brand, because it will be clear that the scam wasn't from them but from the agent.

Similar thing happened in my area, where a regular gambler was unable to go down to the bet shop to place his bet, so he called the bet agent and gave her the game to book. She booked the game, and the game came out as predicted, but when the gambler came happily to claim his bet, she told him that she didn't book it because he didn't go down there and take the game slip.

Very annoying to see how this bet agent messed up with this guy win and kept all the money to herself.
sr. member
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When dealing with humans like you and the deal involves money anything is possible, I don't even want to hear agents at all, most of them are scammers in disguise as a sport bet agent, be careful around them, some of them are even kidnappers informant, there is one true story how a agent in a sport bet location use to give kidnappers their next victim, and the police are able to get him because all the victims have one thing in common, they are used to gambling in the same gambling location and few other evidence.

I don't always advice anyone close to me to start using a location based casino or sport bets location, because they are not always safe especially if you are from a country that's struggling economically.
legendary
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I'm just curious though, why are people using a "betting agent" when it's easy to open an account online and start to gamble? Can you specify from what country this incident happen?

As to the story or news, I think everyone has to be blame as they all have responsibility to each other, the betting shop and the agent. Now, this one was already taken to the court, I'm hoping the justice system is fair and their will be decision as soon as possible, but that's my take.
If you open the article you will know which country this problem is from, there is a Nigerian flag - Naija I think is from there.

Sometimes there are still people who believe in betting agencies rather than online casinos people still do this a lot without doing practically in online casinos nowadays.

We don't know from this storyline the fraud that will be committed by the workers at the casino but there are irregularities so this is reported to the authorities, because there is a guarantee mentioned in the article, which means that it can be punished or not, look forward to the case next month.
legendary
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If it was me, I wouldn't leave the shop until my money is given to me. I can call the police right then and there if the betting shop do not honor my win but takes my money gladly whenever I lose. These people are corrupt to the core and don't deserve to live for years outside bars.

I'm just curious though, why are people using a "betting agent" when it's easy to open an account online and start to gamble? Can you specify from what country this incident happen?

This is from Nigeria based on the court where the trial was held (Lagos state) and the currency used (Naira). Some people work with agents in order to have some direct connections to the gambling platform to make things easier such as withdrawals, deposits, and other account problems however that is not the case here, unfortunately.

As to the story or news, I think everyone has to be blame as they all have responsibility to each other, the betting shop and the agent. Now, this one was already taken to the court, I'm hoping the justice system is fair and their will be decision as soon as possible, but that's my take.

Hopefully, though that long of a wait--a month before trial recommences--will give ample time for the defendants to possibly flee the country or go into hiding. They have all the evidence at hand, but with cases like this, it usually takes months before a resolution is concluded as I have observed here in my country.
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The betting platform is not to be blamed as the victim gambled using a betting agent? But he went to their betting site headquarter with no help given.
If this escalates and it spreads out people will not trust this betting company anymore, they should do an investigation because they are making money from the bets of the gamblers.

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He used the betting agent of the betting platform to gamble and he won $11800 when I converted the local currency to dollar. He said the owner of the betting shop travelled abroad but he met the workers. The workers wanted to scam the man by not giving him any money.

The people involved that wanted to scam the man have been taken to court. They were granted bail with two sureties and the case has been adjourned to match 4 2024.

Some people are just very dubious

https://punchng.com/bet-naija-attendant-friend-arraigned-for-allegedly-stealing-n16-7m

That's a lot of money, the company should compensate the winner if they are a licensed betting platform, then they commit to honor the winning bets, if they fail to do this, their license will be revoked and they will be fined for stealing with their winners. the winner did the right thing in charging them in court it's their money and the government should do its part to give justice to the winner, I hope the winner gets the justice he deserves and the betting company should help the victim to redeem their reputation.
sr. member
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I'm just curious though, why are people using a "betting agent" when it's easy to open an account online and start to gamble? Can you specify from what country this incident happen?

As to the story or news, I think everyone has to be blame as they all have responsibility to each other, the betting shop and the agent. Now, this one was already taken to the court, I'm hoping the justice system is fair and their will be decision as soon as possible, but that's my take.
hero member
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The betting platform is not to be blamed as the victim gambled using a betting agent? But he went to their betting site headquarter with no help given.

He used the betting agent of the betting platform to gamble and he won $11800 when I converted the local currency to dollar. He said the owner of the betting shop travelled abroad but he met the workers. The workers wanted to scam the man by not giving him any money.

The people involved that wanted to scam the man have been taken to court. They were granted bail with two sureties and the case has been adjourned to match 4 2024.

Some people are just very dubious

https://punchng.com/bet-naija-attendant-friend-arraigned-for-allegedly-stealing-n16-7m
This is a regular occurrence in my country and the challenge many physical casinos are facing. Like you said, the problem is not always with the casinos but their agents in the various outlets. There was one an agent eloped with peoples winning giving them excuses that there were too many winnings so the company could not pay at once but at a later date. He used this excuse in buying time until he completed his paper works and traveled abroad with people's winning.

This is why many people have decided to use online casinos only. With online casino, if there is a problem, you will be interacting with the company direct not through a third part. There will be no case of an agent running away with people's money.
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