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Quote from: hZti on June 01, 2023, 09:07:11 AM

Betting with AI in these times does not make sense, firstly because they are in very beta mode, and secondly because they have not yet been programmed with the precision that is needed, I could not say if in 5 years the prediction capacity of the robot will be almost perfect , but I think it will get closer because there are so many events that can be seen having an AI that I am sure will give the most optimal response, and as a result these things can happen, but when it is more advanced, then for now making bets with AI is losing easy, but in the near future it will be the card to success.

Intelligence can't be the probability of winning so the reality is they may have more data, knowledge, analysis and possible outcomes but if the bet is fair then the results will be unknown until it happens so AI can never beat the basics but it can kill the entire casino systems cause what if everyone opts to choose AI for betting and they just let it decide then human civilization will move away from gambling which has been a part of it since the beginning.

We are in the beginning 9f AI and w have not even seen it all. I know.with time, sophisticated artificial intelligence will be produced and people would have not option than to opt in and to it because it is will be the order of the day. As people get into AI to build and do different thing with AI, very soon man power jobs will be limited because AI would be available to do them and make life easier for us even in betting and other forms. Very soon casinos would limit the use of AI in betting to reduce the risk it could pose to other users that are not AI freak. We are only at the beginning of the revolution for artificial intelligence dominance.

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Since gambling is a fun way to spend your free time AI gambling sounds pretty stupid to me actually Cheesy

but if you have fun trying what you can archive with using an AI then go for it. The results will however not be that great in the usual luck based games. An AI would probably only perform very good in a skill based gambling scenario, but I don’t know many gambling games that would require a high skill that can not also be archived by the person playing.

I don't feel comfortable playing games with AI because my chances of winning are always much lower than normal , I think I would play with an AI if I wouldn't bet and that's just for Fun , because what chance is there to win against an AI? If you are in a casino it is because your way of playing is much higher than the average , so that means that when we are in a casino there is Already a house advantage and Apart from the advantage that is more than 1% for the IA has no choice but to know that there is not much Opportunity , Maybe starting we will win and that as a sweetener but after Nothing to do.

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Betting with AI in these times does not make sense, firstly because they are in very beta mode, and secondly because they have not yet been programmed with the precision that is needed, I could not say if in 5 years the prediction capacity of the robot will be almost perfect , but I think it will get closer because there are so many events that can be seen having an AI that I am sure will give the most optimal response, and as a result these things can happen, but when it is more advanced, then for now making bets with AI is losing easy, but in the near future it will be the card to success.

Intelligence can't be the probability of winning so the reality is they may have more data, knowledge, analysis and possible outcomes but if the bet is fair then the results will be unknown until it happens so AI can never beat the basics but it can kill the entire casino systems cause what if everyone opts to choose AI for betting and they just let it decide then human civilization will move away from gambling which has been a part of it since the beginning.

I think a vast majority of gamblers don't gamble only for the money but they also enjoy gambling while having the thought that they might win something from it, and even those who gamble for money would probably like to do it themselves, someone using AI to bet on their behalf should simply try something else like trading where they can use a bot to get profit.

The essence of gambling gets lost if we use bots or AI for betting even if they are generating good results, I mean what's the fun in that? I personally would never do that even if I know that might increase the probability of winning.

So do I, I like your opinion about using AI in trading instead since it can be more usable compared to using it into gambling, maybe there are some who will explore and will try it out but for most gamblers, the fun still on the side of it and using AI will remove that or lessen the adrenalin, though there are different gamblers and for sure the opinions are all different from one another.

At the end of the day, the decision will remain at the gambler's end whether to use it or not either to earn or to have some fun.

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Quote from: slapper on June 01, 2023, 04:41:24 AM

Betting with AI in these times does not make sense, firstly because they are in very beta mode, and secondly because they have not yet been programmed with the precision that is needed, I could not say if in 5 years the prediction capacity of the robot will be almost perfect , but I think it will get closer because there are so many events that can be seen having an AI that I am sure will give the most optimal response, and as a result these things can happen, but when it is more advanced, then for now making bets with AI is losing easy, but in the near future it will be the card to success.

Intelligence can't be the probability of winning so the reality is they may have more data, knowledge, analysis and possible outcomes but if the bet is fair then the results will be unknown until it happens so AI can never beat the basics but it can kill the entire casino systems cause what if everyone opts to choose AI for betting and they just let it decide then human civilization will move away from gambling which has been a part of it since the beginning.

I think a vast majority of gamblers don't gamble only for the money but they also enjoy gambling while having the thought that they might win something from it, and even those who gamble for money would probably like to do it themselves, someone using AI to bet on their behalf should simply try something else like trading where they can use a bot to get profit.

The essence of gambling gets lost if we use bots or AI for betting even if they are generating good results, I mean what's the fun in that? I personally would never do that even if I know that might increase the probability of winning.

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Since gambling is a fun way to spend your free time AI gambling sounds pretty stupid to me actually Cheesy

but if you have fun trying what you can archive with using an AI then go for it. The results will however not be that great in the usual luck based games. An AI would probably only perform very good in a skill based gambling scenario, but I don’t know many gambling games that would require a high skill that can not also be archived by the person playing.

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Quote from: mak013 on May 31, 2023, 07:09:11 AM

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Quote from: Doan9269 on June 01, 2023, 05:29:51 AM

Has anyone here made bets with AI? How has that experience been? Because I don't really see that the robots that are on the web have them, but I don't rule out that some developers are doing it since the AI learns in record time, it is very easy for the AI to find for itself how to play correctly, see the style of play of some famous players and I can take it as learning and since the AI gets statistics in seconds, handles mathematical modeling in record time, all of this helps me to be more efficient in a game, of course I'm speculating, but I think the things currently go that pace.

I tried about a week ago. It was interesting experience. I made the bets like the AI said but marked for myself my own predictions. It was not big quantity of bets for serious test, but the AI predictions were better than my. Winrate was higher about 30-35%(if i remember correct) and profit was higher about 20-25%(if we calculate odds). But i`d prefer to bet myself - it much more exciting.

Well , but with those quick stats that you got, it's obvious that some of the AI that you use are viable , because in part it Increased your success rate , and that's what matters , so if you take a balance or try to add a little more to it of Effort at your discretion and you take into consideration the criteria or recommendations given by the AI , you can obtain a higher success rate , which translates into having a lot of money earned , not bad , of course that is what comes to mind the mind, with Respect to the bets everything can Happen , if you have extra help like that , I think that if it is Possible and if it is to continue winning it is not bad , of course Human Judgment will Always be a great Plus.

It depends on what purposes you have. I haven`t so much time for betting, for me gambling is a type of rest and i prefer to lose some small sum but bet by myself. May be i`m mistaken and it is possible to get much more money from gambling but i have a job i need to do and not enough time to make lots of bets.

Mate, you're handling this betting scenario with precision! My approach to betting also errs on the side of caution, it's more of a tranquil pastime. But if an AI could enhance my game, why not give it a whirl?

I fully grasp that we can't all afford to be perpetually riveted to our devices, waiting for the betting odds to swing in our favor. There are obligations to fulfill. However, delegating the computational labor to AI doesn't detach you from the process. Imagine this scenario: you're in the kitchen, and there's a sous-chef assisting with the prep work. You're still the virtuoso at the stove, aren't you?

Undeniably, there's something to be said about the human touch. The AI can't mimic the exhilaration of making the final call. But if it can tip the scales in your favor, I'm entirely on board. Always remember to keep your wits about you when you're in the game, my friend!

This scenario is only the part of gambling. As for me betting with my own predictions much more exciting. In such situations i watch the match, analyze the game online and probably make additional bets. It is really exciting. But if i believe AI - i can increase profit but i`ll bet just 1-2 bets and will go for a work, or, probably in the kitchen

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Quote from: xSkylarx on May 31, 2023, 08:09:53 AM

[That is why it is really better to play just for fun. I think those gamblers want AI because they want to guarantee winnings on them and make a living on it which we know that in gambling it is impossible with it , also you are right it isn't 100% guaranteed you win as there are still emotions taking place there which we know AI doesn't have so it really depends on hard data that you getting from it , and also most sports even the weakest one has a chance to win a game so it cant be predicted by the AI about it

Even with the use of AI there's no guarantee ror winning in gambling because the AI have been set up in some instance to only help improve on the quality of the games and betting we make including increased level of satisfaction we gain from using the casino but not as a tool to facilitate our winning probability, the use of AI also brings about having a real lifetime experience with gambling to get the best fun from it.

I highly suggest revisiting the OP of this thread because both of you are discussing an AI topic that is not related to the real discussion of this thread. OP AI gambling means you literally bet on games that result is controlled by AI that OP example is virtual horse racing in comparison to real horse racing. I think many of us here don't mind any more if we bet on real or virtual since we are playing virtually too in online casino.

I think the integrity of the game might be in question since it's run by AI and a developer can find a way to rig this kind of game.

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Quote from: xSkylarx on May 31, 2023, 08:09:53 AM

[That is why it is really better to play just for fun. I think those gamblers want AI because they want to guarantee winnings on them and make a living on it which we know that in gambling it is impossible with it , also you are right it isn't 100% guaranteed you win as there are still emotions taking place there which we know AI doesn't have so it really depends on hard data that you getting from it , and also most sports even the weakest one has a chance to win a game so it cant be predicted by the AI about it

Even with the use of AI there's no guarantee for winning in gambling because the AI have been set up in some instance to only help improve on the quality of the games and betting we make including increased level of satisfaction we gain from using the casino but not as a tool to facilitate our winning probability, the use of AI also brings about having a real lifetime experience with gambling to get the best fun from it.

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Quote from: tusandii on May 30, 2023, 10:55:18 PM

Quote from: ethereumhunter on May 30, 2023, 10:46:37 PM

With that artificial intelligence, AI can provide more data and the probability will also be higher to win. And I don't think an AI system can beat the casino because I think the casino will implement AI into its system to detect fraud or even prevent gamblers from winning on many occasions. The progress of AI technology will become faster, supported by the advancement of technology itself, so maybe we will see it happen soon.

But for us to bet, we don't only need data or information provided by Al because we also need to take everything into account, we ourselves already understand, of course, that a bet is very difficult to win if you only rely on information, especially in a bet, the results for winning will change. so there is no certainty or guarantee that the use of Al can give victory.
True casinos will definitely have some kind of bot to detect such actions and what is certain is that casinos will never let gamblers win bets or games easily.

The use of AI, in essence, is to be able to provide data that can be our consideration in placing bets. We can rely on information from AI, but we have to sort it out to choose and place bets. But if we still doubt the use of AI, we don't need to use it and keep using the methods we have used before. We must realize that the casino will take preventive measures to prevent gamblers from winning repeatedly because it will be detrimental to the casino. That is why we must also know that the gambling industry will develop more advanced with many new technologies that will be applied to the casino system.

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Quote from: mak013 on May 31, 2023, 07:09:11 AM

Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on May 30, 2023, 08:28:16 PM

Quote from: xSkylarx on May 31, 2023, 08:09:53 AM

Has anyone here made bets with AI? How has that experience been? Because I don't really see that the robots that are on the web have them, but I don't rule out that some developers are doing it since the AI learns in record time, it is very easy for the AI to find for itself how to play correctly, see the style of play of some famous players and I can take it as learning and since the AI gets statistics in seconds, handles mathematical modeling in record time, all of this helps me to be more efficient in a game, of course I'm speculating, but I think the things currently go that pace.

I tried about a week ago. It was interesting experience. I made the bets like the AI said but marked for myself my own predictions. It was not big quantity of bets for serious test, but the AI predictions were better than my. Winrate was higher about 30-35%(if i remember correct) and profit was higher about 20-25%(if we calculate odds). But i`d prefer to bet myself - it much more exciting.

Well , but with those quick stats that you got, it's obvious that some of the AI that you use are viable , because in part it Increased your success rate , and that's what matters , so if you take a balance or try to add a little more to it of Effort at your discretion and you take into consideration the criteria or recommendations given by the AI , you can obtain a higher success rate , which translates into having a lot of money earned , not bad , of course that is what comes to mind the mind, with Respect to the bets everything can Happen , if you have extra help like that , I think that if it is Possible and if it is to continue winning it is not bad , of course Human Judgment will Always be a great Plus.

It depends on what purposes you have. I haven`t so much time for betting, for me gambling is a type of rest and i prefer to lose some small sum but bet by myself. May be i`m mistaken and it is possible to get much more money from gambling but i have a job i need to do and not enough time to make lots of bets.

Mate, you're handling this betting scenario with precision! My approach to betting also errs on the side of caution, it's more of a tranquil pastime. But if an AI could enhance my game, why not give it a whirl?

I fully grasp that we can't all afford to be perpetually riveted to our devices, waiting for the betting odds to swing in our favor. There are obligations to fulfill. However, delegating the computational labor to AI doesn't detach you from the process. Imagine this scenario: you're in the kitchen, and there's a sous-chef assisting with the prep work. You're still the virtuoso at the stove, aren't you?

Undeniably, there's something to be said about the human touch. The AI can't mimic the exhilaration of making the final call. But if it can tip the scales in your favor, I'm entirely on board. Always remember to keep your wits about you when you're in the game, my friend!

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Quote from: tusandii on May 30, 2023, 10:55:18 PM

Quote from: ethereumhunter on May 30, 2023, 10:46:37 PM

With that artificial intelligence, AI can provide more data and the probability will also be higher to win. And I don't think an AI system can beat the casino because I think the casino will implement AI into its system to detect fraud or even prevent gamblers from winning on many occasions. The progress of AI technology will become faster, supported by the advancement of technology itself, so maybe we will see it happen soon.

But for us to bet, we don't only need data or information provided by Al because we also need to take everything into account, we ourselves already understand, of course, that a bet is very difficult to win if you only rely on information, especially in a bet, the results for winning will change. so there is no certainty or guarantee that the use of Al can give victory.
True casinos will definitely have some kind of bot to detect such actions and what is certain is that casinos will never let gamblers win bets or games easily.

That is why it is really better to play just for fun. I think those gamblers want AI because they want to guarantee winnings on them and make a living on it which we know that in gambling it is impossible with it , also you are right it isn't 100% guaranteed you win as there are still emotions taking place there which we know AI doesn't have so it really depends on hard data that you getting from it , and also most sports even the weakest one has a chance to win a game so it cant be predicted by the AI about it

We are players and as such we want to play, have fun and win, it's a lie that one only wants to have fun, of course, that's what everyone says, but what matters and what everyone knows and wants is that there is a gnania, there can be a lot fun but if there is no profit how can you do? I understand that the point of every casino is for everyone to have fun, but unfortunately there can always be many unexpected results on the part of the players, and it is not winning, you have to accept that when playing in a casino you must take into account that you can lose and it is the most probable, that is how to mature the behavior of the casino.

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Quote from: tusandii on May 30, 2023, 10:55:18 PM

Quote from: ethereumhunter on May 30, 2023, 10:46:37 PM

With that artificial intelligence, AI can provide more data and the probability will also be higher to win. And I don't think an AI system can beat the casino because I think the casino will implement AI into its system to detect fraud or even prevent gamblers from winning on many occasions. The progress of AI technology will become faster, supported by the advancement of technology itself, so maybe we will see it happen soon.

But for us to bet, we don't only need data or information provided by Al because we also need to take everything into account, we ourselves already understand, of course, that a bet is very difficult to win if you only rely on information, especially in a bet, the results for winning will change. so there is no certainty or guarantee that the use of Al can give victory.
True casinos will definitely have some kind of bot to detect such actions and what is certain is that casinos will never let gamblers win bets or games easily.

That is why it is really better to play just for fun. I think those gamblers want AI because they want to guarantee winnings on them and make a living on it which we know that in gambling it is impossible with it , also you are right it isn't 100% guaranteed you win as there are still emotions taking place there which we know AI doesn't have so it really depends on hard data that you getting from it , and also most sports even the weakest one has a chance to win a game so it cant be predicted by the AI about it

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on May 30, 2023, 08:28:16 PM

Quote from: ethereumhunter on May 30, 2023, 10:46:37 PM

Has anyone here made bets with AI? How has that experience been? Because I don't really see that the robots that are on the web have them, but I don't rule out that some developers are doing it since the AI learns in record time, it is very easy for the AI to find for itself how to play correctly, see the style of play of some famous players and I can take it as learning and since the AI gets statistics in seconds, handles mathematical modeling in record time, all of this helps me to be more efficient in a game, of course I'm speculating, but I think the things currently go that pace.

I tried about a week ago. It was interesting experience. I made the bets like the AI said but marked for myself my own predictions. It was not big quantity of bets for serious test, but the AI predictions were better than my. Winrate was higher about 30-35%(if i remember correct) and profit was higher about 20-25%(if we calculate odds). But i`d prefer to bet myself - it much more exciting.

Well , but with those quick stats that you got, it's obvious that some of the AI that you use are viable , because in part it Increased your success rate , and that's what matters , so if you take a balance or try to add a little more to it of Effort at your discretion and you take into consideration the criteria or recommendations given by the AI , you can obtain a higher success rate , which translates into having a lot of money earned , not bad , of course that is what comes to mind the mind, with Respect to the bets everything can Happen , if you have extra help like that , I think that if it is Possible and if it is to continue winning it is not bad , of course Human Judgment will Always be a great Plus.

It depends on what purposes you have. I haven`t so much time for betting, for me gambling is a type of rest and i prefer to lose some small sum but bet by myself. May be i`m mistaken and it is possible to get much more money from gambling but i have a job i need to do and not enough time to make lots of bets.

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With that artificial intelligence, AI can provide more data and the probability will also be higher to win. And I don't think an AI system can beat the casino because I think the casino will implement AI into its system to detect fraud or even prevent gamblers from winning on many occasions. The progress of AI technology will become faster, supported by the advancement of technology itself, so maybe we will see it happen soon.

But for us to bet, we don't only need data or information provided by Al because we also need to take everything into account, we ourselves already understand, of course, that a bet is very difficult to win if you only rely on information, especially in a bet, the results for winning will change. so there is no certainty or guarantee that the use of Al can give victory.
True casinos will definitely have some kind of bot to detect such actions and what is certain is that casinos will never let gamblers win bets or games easily.

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Quote from: jrrsparkles on May 27, 2023, 03:00:50 PM

Betting with AI in these times does not make sense, firstly because they are in very beta mode, and secondly because they have not yet been programmed with the precision that is needed, I could not say if in 5 years the prediction capacity of the robot will be almost perfect , but I think it will get closer because there are so many events that can be seen having an AI that I am sure will give the most optimal response, and as a result these things can happen, but when it is more advanced, then for now making bets with AI is losing easy, but in the near future it will be the card to success.

Intelligence can't be the probability of winning so the reality is they may have more data, knowledge, analysis and possible outcomes but if the bet is fair then the results will be unknown until it happens so AI can never beat the basics but it can kill the entire casino systems cause what if everyone opts to choose AI for betting and they just let it decide then human civilization will move away from gambling which has been a part of it since the beginning.

With that artificial intelligence, AI can provide more data and the probability will also be higher to win. And I don't think an AI system can beat the casino because I think the casino will implement AI into its system to detect fraud or even prevent gamblers from winning on many occasions. The progress of AI technology will become faster, supported by the advancement of technology itself, so maybe we will see it happen soon.

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Has anyone here made bets with AI? How has that experience been? Because I don't really see that the robots that are on the web have them, but I don't rule out that some developers are doing it since the AI learns in record time, it is very easy for the AI to find for itself how to play correctly, see the style of play of some famous players and I can take it as learning and since the AI gets statistics in seconds, handles mathematical modeling in record time, all of this helps me to be more efficient in a game, of course I'm speculating, but I think the things currently go that pace.

I tried about a week ago. It was interesting experience. I made the bets like the AI said but marked for myself my own predictions. It was not big quantity of bets for serious test, but the AI predictions were better than my. Winrate was higher about 30-35%(if i remember correct) and profit was higher about 20-25%(if we calculate odds). But i`d prefer to bet myself - it much more exciting.

Well , but with those quick stats that you got, it's obvious that some of the AI that you use are viable , because in part it Increased your success rate , and that's what matters , so if you take a balance or try to add a little more to it of Effort at your discretion and you take into consideration the criteria or recommendations given by the AI , you can obtain a higher success rate , which translates into having a lot of money earned , not bad , of course that is what comes to mind the mind, with Respect to the bets everything can Happen , if you have extra help like that , I think that if it is Possible and if it is to continue winning it is not bad , of course Human Judgment will Always be a great Plus.

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Betting with AI in these times does not make sense, firstly because they are in very beta mode, and secondly because they have not yet been programmed with the precision that is needed, I could not say if in 5 years the prediction capacity of the robot will be almost perfect , but I think it will get closer because there are so many events that can be seen having an AI that I am sure will give the most optimal response, and as a result these things can happen, but when it is more advanced, then for now making bets with AI is losing easy, but in the near future it will be the card to success.

Intelligence can't be the probability of winning so the reality is they may have more data, knowledge, analysis and possible outcomes but if the bet is fair then the results will be unknown until it happens so AI can never beat the basics but it can kill the entire casino systems cause what if everyone opts to choose AI for betting and they just let it decide then human civilization will move away from gambling which has been a part of it since the beginning.

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