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Quote from: seleme on July 25, 2022, 02:24:10 PM

Not all casinos require KYC to let users withdraw winnings unless the amount is really higher than average user can win. Some websites check user's account manually before processing withdrawal and ask for personal documents to verify account that must comply with Terms&Conditions. Steamers also don't mention this fact and what all do is to get more referrals that brings money flow for both parties. It is user's responsibility to check all conditions before making deposit on casino website.

I agree, even now I only choose those casino website that will not require me to do some KYC, because it only gives me some doubt that my ID will be stolen or it will be sold to some person, maybe I am just overthinking about this but honestly, it is really the case that's why other casino are being played by many it is because of the kyc, bonuses, referral programs and maybe if it is recommended by some influencers. They need tm gain the trust of the people so they need to be unique to others.

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Quote from: Theones on July 24, 2022, 07:57:12 PM

Quote from: jossiel on July 24, 2022, 07:45:45 PM

I saw those issues with casinos that are untrustworthy. They really create issues for their winners to blockade the actual winnings.

But in most casinos, it's becoming a certain requirement if the winning amount is huge. They have it on their terms and conditions and you can't do anything with that if you're in that situation.

You have no option but just to comply. Because you just signed up for them and that's written on the rules that they can ask you that out of nowhere.

Every customer has their concerns many people are adamant that they won't provide their KYC because they want their privacy.
On the other hand some people are open and they are very casual in dealing with KYC. Depends on the profile of the person too - they clearer the profile them more easy he will be in dealing.

Not all casinos require KYC to let users withdraw winnings unless the amount is really higher than average user can win. Some websites check user's account manually before processing withdrawal and ask for personal documents to verify account that must comply with Terms&Conditions. Steamers also don't mention this fact and what all do is to get more referrals that brings money flow for both parties. It is user's responsibility to check all conditions before making deposit on casino website.

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Quote from: Silberman on July 24, 2022, 01:35:39 AM

Quote from: X-ray on July 22, 2022, 10:28:08 PM

Verifying KYC didn't even take at least a week or even more. Sometime it can be a trick from the untrusted casino to refuse to pay the users that winning the game. If the casino didn't have enough money to pay and that's the only trick that being used by the casino to avoid to pay the users.

It doesn't make sense to get a delay. Basically verying it doesn't even take so many days or even weeks.

I consider that as a trick.

When a player gets a big win it makes sense for the casino to try to verify that everything is in order, however I agree that many casinos use this as an excuse to try to delay as much as possible the payment of that money because they are looking for an excuse so they do not have to pay the money in full, now sometimes they actually find something which allows them to rightfully deny part or all the profits, but once they realize everything is in order they should pay immediately the money they owe the player or risk their reputation by not doing so.

They are risking their business. If they are out there to do business better to make the assessment as quick as they can, the annoyed gambler will no longer use the platform if they suffer from that kind of delay. It's true that verifying KYC and reviewing the account should not take that long, and also true that gambling house uses this excuse to delay the payment.

but good business owners will not take that risk. They will resolve this asap to make sure that the gambler will trust them and to make
them to keep coming back. If they've got a good amount of capital, they will not allow any problem to happen. Sooner or later, the amount
will comeback, maybe not that quickly, but the house always got the advantage.

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Quote from: lienfaye on July 24, 2022, 09:33:53 PM

Quote from: fiulpro on July 13, 2022, 12:48:00 PM

Which necessarily improved when the Gambling platforms had more withdrawal options, things Like: PayPal, Debit Card, Online Gambling, Cash app, Gift card etc. Having the freedom of having so many options improved the players willing to deposit money by almost 49%!!

Many options to deposit and withdraw are indeed advantage for the players. But as a crypto user I have not tried yet to use fiat when I gamble online. Plus its not the only factor that a player consider when they're making a deposit because the reputation, bonuses and promotions offered, kyc and minimum deposit/withdrawal are also important. There are casinos that has wagering requirement before you can withdraw and asking for kyc if you happen to win huge. Such scenarios are just some of the concern when a gambler decided to play on the particular casino. Its not all about the deposit options because the overall ratings and trust of the gamblers matters too.

PayPal which you have mentioned - do you know that it does not work in our region.
And many application does not work in our region because gambling is banned and people find and alternative source for payment.

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Quote from: fiulpro on July 13, 2022, 12:48:00 PM

Which necessarily improved when the Gambling platforms had more withdrawal options, things Like: PayPal, Debit Card, Online Gambling, Cash app, Gift card etc. Having the freedom of having so many options improved the players willing to deposit money by almost 49%!!

Many options to deposit and withdraw are indeed advantage for the players. But as a crypto user I have not tried yet to use fiat when I gamble online. Plus its not the only factor that a player consider when they're making a deposit because the reputation, bonuses and promotions offered, kyc and minimum deposit/withdrawal are also important. There are casinos that has wagering requirement before you can withdraw and asking for kyc if you happen to win huge. Such scenarios are just some of the concern when a gambler decided to play on the particular casino. Its not all about the deposit options because the overall ratings and trust of the gamblers matters too.

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Quote from: jossiel on July 24, 2022, 07:45:45 PM

I saw those issues with casinos that are untrustworthy. They really create issues for their winners to blockade the actual winnings.

But in most casinos, it's becoming a certain requirement if the winning amount is huge. They have it on their terms and conditions and you can't do anything with that if you're in that situation.

You have no option but just to comply. Because you just signed up for them and that's written on the rules that they can ask you that out of nowhere.

Every customer has their concerns many people are adamant that they won't provide their KYC because they want their privacy.
On the other hand some people are open and they are very casual in dealing with KYC. Depends on the profile of the person too - they clearer the profile them more easy he will be in dealing.

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Quote from: X-ray on July 22, 2022, 10:28:08 PM

Quote from: jossiel on July 21, 2022, 06:53:16 PM

When it's about to such big wins, that's the true thing in some casinos. They would require the user almost everything and when it's provided, they'll still decline to release it on an instant because they'll need to check it first in every side that it's a genuine win.

That's how it goes before they release and allow the withdrawal and that's why it's taking a lot of days and sometimes very delayed that it's totally frustrating.

Verifying KYC didn't even take at least a week or even more. Sometime it can be a trick from the untrusted casino to refuse to pay the users that winning the game. If the casino didn't have enough money to pay and that's the only trick that being used by the casino to avoid to pay the users.

It doesn't make sense to get a delay. Basically verying it doesn't even take so many days or even weeks.

I consider that as a trick.

I saw those issues with casinos that are untrustworthy. They really create issues for their winners to blockade the actual winnings.

But in most casinos, it's becoming a certain requirement if the winning amount is huge. They have it on their terms and conditions and you can't do anything with that if you're in that situation.

You have no option but just to comply. Because you just signed up for them and that's written on the rules that they can ask you that out of nowhere.

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Quote from: Silberman on July 24, 2022, 01:35:39 AM

Quote from: X-ray on July 22, 2022, 10:28:08 PM

Verifying KYC didn't even take at least a week or even more. Sometime it can be a trick from the untrusted casino to refuse to pay the users that winning the game. If the casino didn't have enough money to pay and that's the only trick that being used by the casino to avoid to pay the users.

It doesn't make sense to get a delay. Basically verying it doesn't even take so many days or even weeks.

I consider that as a trick.

When a player gets a big win it makes sense for the casino to try to verify that everything is in order, however I agree that many casinos use this as an excuse to try to delay as much as possible the payment of that money because they are looking for an excuse so they do not have to pay the money in full, now sometimes they actually find something which allows them to rightfully deny part or all the profits, but once they realize everything is in order they should pay immediately the money they owe the player or risk their reputation by not doing so.

...the more authentic the business is the more trust people will show by putting in their money in the account.
People have money to invest but sometime they are miser and they don't feel like trusting other with the deposit.

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Quote from: X-ray on July 22, 2022, 10:28:08 PM

Verifying KYC didn't even take at least a week or even more. Sometime it can be a trick from the untrusted casino to refuse to pay the users that winning the game. If the casino didn't have enough money to pay and that's the only trick that being used by the casino to avoid to pay the users.

It doesn't make sense to get a delay. Basically verying it doesn't even take so many days or even weeks.

I consider that as a trick.

When a player gets a big win it makes sense for the casino to try to verify that everything is in order, however I agree that many casinos use this as an excuse to try to delay as much as possible the payment of that money because they are looking for an excuse so they do not have to pay the money in full, now sometimes they actually find something which allows them to rightfully deny part or all the profits, but once they realize everything is in order they should pay immediately the money they owe the player or risk their reputation by not doing so.

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If you have made a deposit then definitely try to withdraw. Then they are trying to control these victories of ours At the end of playing the game we try to choose and deposit our winnings. And we try harder that our money comes back to us.
Then they will be interested in playing any gambling and they will be motivated to deposit again so that they feel like depositing and withdrawing and without any conditions They are more attracted to the fact that it is possible to make a deposit without it.

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Surely deposit bonuses are separate from the ability to withdraw at any time. They should always allow the withdrawal of the original money I think is fair or return to source perhaps if thats a requirement for security purposes. A requirement to play the balance ten times over would be prohibitive and hard to handle for most people but perhaps thats paired with a great bonus, it should be open and clear in these cases so nobody feels upset or unfairly tricked in this requirement to play and benefit from the casino operations.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on July 17, 2022, 08:38:24 AM

Quote from: Naficopa on July 17, 2022, 05:34:52 AM

believe it or not - paypal does not work in our country.
There is so much difficulty in getting the payment from abroad - different countries - different issues.

Yes, I believe that and it seems to be happening in many other countries. But gamblers who are addicted to gambling will not stop but will continue to look for other ways to deposit their money to play gambling. For crypto gamblers, it's clear they will continue to use crypto and I think many countries have allowed the use of crypto even though their government forbids gambling. But those people will still gamble because they already know how to gamble using crypto safely.

That is correct - where there is will there is way. People find ways.
and that is how they do it. The transition and money matter is a different and difficult things when comes to the other regions. But I totally agree - people find ways.

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Quote from: Fredomago on July 23, 2022, 11:55:00 AM

Quote from: Fatunad on July 22, 2022, 07:22:56 PM

Quote from: $crypto$ on July 22, 2022, 03:24:07 PM

Quote from: Fredomago on July 22, 2022, 11:17:39 AM

Though I don't experienced it yet but I also read some post about that kind of delays, things that needed to review and to submit to the verifying team before the withdrawal will be process, annoying to the winner especially those who are already inside the house for quite some time and when experience the big win they will be asked for documents to prove their identities and also will advise to wait for further update with regard to the withdrawal request.

Because big wins are always suspected and the casino will definitely make sure the win is legal or not for a long time and well that's what we know so far.
Even though the casino always asks for documents because of big wins, if the win is legal, the winner will be given and the withdrawal will be verified, for example, there was a user Rollbit that won big because it was a legal win so the withdrawal was continued and the user got the funds.

Cryptogambling sites or even those fiat ones arent really just dumb for them not to verify big winnings into the site whether it is legal or fair one or simply made out some exploits or abuse and that what makes for them to hold of those funds which i would say it is really just right for any business on having this kind of consideration but there are people who are just easily get alarmed whenever their winnings been hold down
but as long you dont do something stupid and you are dealing with a legit gambling site then i dont really see for you to be worried that much because those winnings would be released accordingly.
Fairness and easiness in between transactions on what make people do stay up aside on the games that been offered.

Yeah there are gamblers who feels uncomfortable when the withdrawal got delayed, but likewise if you don't do anything and if it's a clear win, the site will allow you to withdraw the fund after verifying what it's needed to verify, if the site care about their business they will make sure to communicate well with the gambler giving them updates and what causing the delays.

Very uncomfortable indeed but for some gamblers but all of us would really be that reactive on something that do talks delayed withdrawals or even on deposits.If ever there are some
problems within that specific thing then it is really just sensible or normal for them to make out some announcements so that players wont really be whining and raging out on whats happening.
Companies should really be mindful even on the simplest things on where they should avoid for people to make out some bad impressions into the site because it would
really be giving out that long term effect which they should really be avoiding as much as they could.

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Quote from: Fatunad on July 22, 2022, 07:22:56 PM

Quote from: $crypto$ on July 22, 2022, 03:24:07 PM

Quote from: Fredomago on July 22, 2022, 11:17:39 AM

Though I don't experienced it yet but I also read some post about that kind of delays, things that needed to review and to submit to the verifying team before the withdrawal will be process, annoying to the winner especially those who are already inside the house for quite some time and when experience the big win they will be asked for documents to prove their identities and also will advise to wait for further update with regard to the withdrawal request.

Because big wins are always suspected and the casino will definitely make sure the win is legal or not for a long time and well that's what we know so far.
Even though the casino always asks for documents because of big wins, if the win is legal, the winner will be given and the withdrawal will be verified, for example, there was a user Rollbit that won big because it was a legal win so the withdrawal was continued and the user got the funds.

Cryptogambling sites or even those fiat ones arent really just dumb for them not to verify big winnings into the site whether it is legal or fair one or simply made out some exploits or abuse and that what makes for them to hold of those funds which i would say it is really just right for any business on having this kind of consideration but there are people who are just easily get alarmed whenever their winnings been hold down
but as long you dont do something stupid and you are dealing with a legit gambling site then i dont really see for you to be worried that much because those winnings would be released accordingly.
Fairness and easiness in between transactions on what make people do stay up aside on the games that been offered.

Yeah there are gamblers who feels uncomfortable when the withdrawal got delayed, but likewise if you don't do anything and if it's a clear win, the site will allow you to withdraw the fund after verifying what it's needed to verify, if the site care about their business they will make sure to communicate well with the gambler giving them updates and what causing the delays.

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Quote from: jossiel on July 21, 2022, 06:53:16 PM

Quote from: Vaskiy on July 21, 2022, 06:19:31 PM

Even after submitting KYC, there are casinos that hold the withdrawal of users just because they've won big. Going through different accusation thread it can be seen. Recently in an accusation, user have perfectly posted every proof but he didn't get the proper response even after 15 days. Earlier even without KYC his withdrawals were processed. Now it was a big win and he have submitted KYC, but the withdrawal is still under process.

When it's about to such big wins, that's the true thing in some casinos. They would require the user almost everything and when it's provided, they'll still decline to release it on an instant because they'll need to check it first in every side that it's a genuine win.

That's how it goes before they release and allow the withdrawal and that's why it's taking a lot of days and sometimes very delayed that it's totally frustrating.

Verifying KYC didn't even take at least a week or even more. Sometime it can be a trick from the untrusted casino to refuse to pay the users that winning the game. If the casino didn't have enough money to pay and that's the only trick that being used by the casino to avoid to pay the users.

It doesn't make sense to get a delay. Basically verying it doesn't even take so many days or even weeks.

I consider that as a trick.

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Withdrawal options are welcome, but certainly in my case I look at making a deposit when the withdrawal amount is not greater than 2x.

I'll give you an example recently I got a site that has several withdrawal options but the amount WD is 10x and the minimum deposit is $100, they can have 20 forms of withdrawal but they will not get my deposit.

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Casinos delay withdrawals and/or ask for kyc when a user hits a big win and make a withdrawal request for different reasons. They usually do it to have time to verify the legitimacy of the winning, to comply with their license requirements: in some cases, you can find in the tos the amount above which you will need to complete kyc. Small or new casinos do it simply because they don't have enough money to pay.

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Quote from: $crypto$ on July 22, 2022, 03:24:07 PM

Quote from: Fredomago on July 22, 2022, 11:17:39 AM

Though I don't experienced it yet but I also read some post about that kind of delays, things that needed to review and to submit to the verifying team before the withdrawal will be process, annoying to the winner especially those who are already inside the house for quite some time and when experience the big win they will be asked for documents to prove their identities and also will advise to wait for further update with regard to the withdrawal request.

Because big wins are always suspected and the casino will definitely make sure the win is legal or not for a long time and well that's what we know so far.
Even though the casino always asks for documents because of big wins, if the win is legal, the winner will be given and the withdrawal will be verified, for example, there was a user Rollbit that won big because it was a legal win so the withdrawal was continued and the user got the funds.

Cryptogambling sites or even those fiat ones arent really just dumb for them not to verify big winnings into the site whether it is legal or fair one or simply made out some exploits or abuse and that what makes for them to hold of those funds which i would say it is really just right for any business on having this kind of consideration but there are people who are just easily get alarmed whenever their winnings been hold down
but as long you dont do something stupid and you are dealing with a legit gambling site then i dont really see for you to be worried that much because those winnings would be released accordingly.
Fairness and easiness in between transactions on what make people do stay up aside on the games that been offered.

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Quote from: Fredomago on July 22, 2022, 11:17:39 AM

Though I don't experienced it yet but I also read some post about that kind of delays, things that needed to review and to submit to the verifying team before the withdrawal will be process, annoying to the winner especially those who are already inside the house for quite some time and when experience the big win they will be asked for documents to prove their identities and also will advise to wait for further update with regard to the withdrawal request.

Because big wins are always suspected and the casino will definitely make sure the win is legal or not for a long time and well that's what we know so far.
Even though the casino always asks for documents because of big wins, if the win is legal, the winner will be given and the withdrawal will be verified, for example, there was a user Rollbit that won big because it was a legal win so the withdrawal was continued and the user got the funds.

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Quote from: jossiel on July 21, 2022, 06:53:16 PM

Quote from: Vaskiy on July 21, 2022, 06:19:31 PM

Even after submitting KYC, there are casinos that hold the withdrawal of users just because they've won big. Going through different accusation thread it can be seen. Recently in an accusation, user have perfectly posted every proof but he didn't get the proper response even after 15 days. Earlier even without KYC his withdrawals were processed. Now it was a big win and he have submitted KYC, but the withdrawal is still under process.

When it's about to such big wins, that's the true thing in some casinos. They would require the user almost everything and when it's provided, they'll still decline to release it on an instant because they'll need to check it first in every side that it's a genuine win.

That's how it goes before they release and allow the withdrawal and that's why it's taking a lot of days and sometimes very delayed that it's totally frustrating.

Though I don't experienced it yet but I also read some post about that kind of delays, things that needed to review and to submit to the verifying team before the withdrawal will be process, annoying to the winner especially those who are already inside the house for quite some time and when experience the big win they will be asked for documents to prove their identities and also will advise to wait for further update with regard to the withdrawal request.

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