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April 24, 2019, 10:37:20 AM
Gambling websites never intend to cheat you, they are in need of more players so to earn good. The only issue that arise quite often with the gambling websites were the transaction issues and the withdrawal issue. When someone wins big the gambling websites intend to keep fund and make him play further with the funds. For this gambling websites used to request for KYC and various other norms to be fulfilled.
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April 23, 2019, 08:44:50 AM
I don't think many websites do that, but probably some scam websites may have done it already.

So this is why it's important to look for reliable gambling sites ,for some years on the market and with community support.
There are many gambling websites with these characteristics, so you have no reason to risk in Unknown ones.

Yes\, that's what I was thinking. Reputable and established gambling websites never do such a thing like what the OP has mentioned unless the said websites were not that reputable and not legit gambling websites. But I am not disagreeing that some gambling websites system isn't really provably fair and was meant to cheat players.

No doubt some gambling sties still cheat the gamblers, but you also know that gamblers are not innocent that they can't recognized that which sites is scam or which sites is doing properly work. Now in this time, it is too much easy to judge about gambling sites.

Of course it has been done already, a lot of times. There are likely even more cheating sites than honest ones, which i think can be counted with the fingers in your hands. And it's a normal occurrence, part of the risk that any gambler should be aware of when they decide to make that first online bet. Even reputable gambling sites aren't 100 percent clean you know.
Honestly i think it is stupid that now people have to worry more about their money being stolen by the casino instead of worrying of losing their money playing different games. But sadly thats the world we live in today, full of scammers and its only our job to make sure we dont fall into their trap.
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April 23, 2019, 08:40:21 AM
I don't think many websites do that, but probably some scam websites may have done it already.

So this is why it's important to look for reliable gambling sites ,for some years on the market and with community support.
There are many gambling websites with these characteristics, so you have no reason to risk in Unknown ones.

Yes\, that's what I was thinking. Reputable and established gambling websites never do such a thing like what the OP has mentioned unless the said websites were not that reputable and not legit gambling websites. But I am not disagreeing that some gambling websites system isn't really provably fair and was meant to cheat players.

No doubt some gambling sties still cheat the gamblers, but you also know that gamblers are not innocent that they can't recognized that which sites is scam or which sites is doing properly work. Now in this time, it is too much easy to judge about gambling sites.

Of course it has been done already, a lot of times. There are likely even more cheating sites than honest ones, which i think can be counted with the fingers in your hands. And it's a normal occurrence, part of the risk that any gambler should be aware of when they decide to make that first online bet. Even reputable gambling sites aren't 100 percent clean you know.
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April 23, 2019, 04:07:05 AM
I don't think many websites do that, but probably some scam websites may have done it already.

So this is why it's important to look for reliable gambling sites ,for some years on the market and with community support.
There are many gambling websites with these characteristics, so you have no reason to risk in Unknown ones.

Yes, that's what I was thinking. Reputable and established gambling websites never do such a thing like what the OP has mentioned unless the said websites were not that reputable and not legit gambling websites. But I am not disagreeing that some gambling websites system isn't really provably fair and was meant to cheat players.

No doubt some gambling sties still cheat the gamblers, but you also know that gamblers are not innocent that they can't recognized that which sites is scam or which sites is doing properly work. Now in this time, it is too much easy to judge about gambling sites.
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April 23, 2019, 03:52:43 AM
Not all are using blockchain tech to thier platform some are still centralized while some are only using the name blockchain to gain attraction but deep inside their real main purpose is to scam inoscent people  . when it comes to trust matters i think the activities that you mention above has nothing to differ with gambling  .  if a site is legit , they are legit but if a site is dis honest   they will do some inapropriate things   .  however some still thinks that gambling can cheat us just because they cannot win easily  . they dont know that its only normal .
Certainly. There are so many websites who do that and have a tag of blockchain but does not really know a thing about the blockchain technology. This is important and high time to do some good research about how a legit website, their team and services looks like. This will help us get rid of the websites which are scam and loot the users. I heard on the forum that there are so many websites who block you messages and do not provide proper service if you wish to withdraw after a win.
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April 22, 2019, 03:28:35 AM
Before depositing the crypto to the new gambling site checking their reputation can save a lot of time if any case gonna happen during withdrawal. The KYC procedure is almost necessary for big players who gamble more than 10 BTC but they can be a victim to unknown big gambling sites.
KYC is something that is looked down up in the crypto sphere. You cannot think of putting in your identity on the casino because you played there since your idea in the first place was to keep your identity secret and that was why you opted for crypto payment and not credit card. Thats the thing that makes it look redundant.

However KYC is asked in case the source of the money in considered tainted. The casino is having the upper hand here because the person got the money from shady activity and the casino was used as a bypass for offshoring the money. These people come in with scam accusations against the site that their account was blocked. Nothing to see here because the player is at fault here.
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April 18, 2019, 07:22:31 PM
Do you really think that a reputable casino would do such claims of yours?

Well for some casinos mostly the newly created ones, they can do this. But for those casinos that has established their business well for over the years, do you think they'll create something like this and will destroy all of those years they've worked for?
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April 17, 2019, 02:30:17 PM
Before depositing the crypto to the new gambling site checking their reputation can save a lot of time if any case gonna happen during withdrawal. The KYC procedure is almost necessary for big players who gamble more than 10 BTC but they can be a victim to unknown big gambling sites.
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April 17, 2019, 01:17:58 PM
You must needs to check the site whether it is scam site or good before you start gamble in that site.

Some of the gambling sites does not pay when the time person wins 1 btc or even more. I am not sure why the gambling site doing like that. They also should be loyal in this critical field like gambling.

Please invest with your risk in gambling field. That is what final suggestion to everyone.
Its always been a suggestion that only play on the money that you can afford to lose when you do tend to deposit on a new gambling or old gambling sites.
They do can anytime cheat you if they wanted to but for those who are really aiming for longer terms profits then they wont tend to cheat out because that would ruin their reputation
and would kill the business easily.
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April 17, 2019, 12:04:13 PM
You must needs to check the site whether it is scam site or good before you start gamble in that site.

Some of the gambling sites does not pay when the time person wins 1 btc or even more. I am not sure why the gambling site doing like that. They also should be loyal in this critical field like gambling.

Please invest with your risk in gambling field. That is what final suggestion to everyone.
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April 17, 2019, 10:37:14 AM
I don't think many websites do that, but probably some scam websites may have done it already.

So this is why it's important to look for reliable gambling sites ,for some years on the market and with community support.
There are many gambling websites with these characteristics, so you have no reason to risk in Unknown ones.

Yes, that's what I was thinking. Reputable and established gambling websites never do such a thing like what the OP has mentioned unless the said websites were not that reputable and not legit gambling websites. But I am not disagreeing that some gambling websites system isn't really provably fair and was meant to cheat players.

They will prevent from making the member disappointing in many ways, and they will not do that because they are losing the trust of the member, it means a lot to them. They will lose their reputations, and they lose the member too, and that is doubly lost. So they will protect their member by not cheating them, and they will give the best services to them.
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April 17, 2019, 03:05:50 AM
Gambling sites are even more trustworthy now than exchange platforms and some cryptocurrencies investments sites. I think it is very hard now for a gambling sites to cheat because of how blockchain technology is creating transparency in it.  For the most popular one here I think there are good and has done well without cheating.

Not all are using blockchain tech to thier platform some are still centralized while some are only using the name blockchain to gain attraction but deep inside their real main purpose is to scam inoscent people  . when it comes to trust matters i think the activities that you mention above has nothing to differ with gambling  .  if a site is legit , they are legit but if a site is dis honest   they will do some inapropriate things   .  however some still thinks that gambling can cheat us just because they cannot win easily  . they dont know that its only normal .
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April 16, 2019, 05:40:37 PM
There is so much transparency with Bitcoin sprtsbooks that I find this tactic impossible.
It would have to be a total scam site and with 2fa options and others, I dont see this happening.
If I was this paranoid about each site I went to, I would stay off the net entirely. 
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April 16, 2019, 11:14:44 AM
You have stated some possible things that might happen but gambling sites these days are trustworthy and they are handling their reputation well. As for me, it's hard for them to gain trust so I think they won't do things that might affect their site. However, we should also do our part to be observant because we might not get cheated on sites but scammers are just roaming around and looking for new victims.
Gambling sites are even more trustworthy now than exchange platforms and some cryptocurrencies investments sites. I think it is very hard now for a gambling sites to cheat because of how blockchain technology is creating transparency in it.  For the most popular one here I think there are good and has done well without cheating.
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April 16, 2019, 10:49:18 AM
Thing you need to know about probably fair websites

1> you control your part of secret
2> website has its know secure text, you get hash for it, so it ensure that there can not be any alteration to the server secret

so a bet roll is generated using 1 & 2, which ensures there is no cheat.


Now consider this

1> your account is hosted on there website, all it takes is 1 command to database to delete your whole account and you will not prove anything.

suppose a user deposited 10 BTC, the website can simply delete his account and claim its never been created, so what use are your secrets hash.

2> or they can alter your password and claim its been hacked and its your responsibility

[ remember : password is saved as hash in the database, so they cannot know your password but they can definitely change it , and claim its been hacked]


FOR NOW THE ONLY SOLUTION SEEMS TO ME IS TO USE , A SMART ETHEREUM CONTACT OR USE BITCOIN ON-CHAIN BETTING.

These are possible scenarios yet improbable especially if the gambling site that you are playing is well-known around by online gamblers and if the site shows no signs of anonymity, yet these acts are likely to happen in gambling sites that are untrusted and shows anonymity with the owners, gamble at your own risk and make sure that you are gambling in a trusted gambling site.
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April 16, 2019, 10:31:07 AM
You have stated some possible things that might happen but gambling sites these days are trustworthy and they are handling their reputation well. As for me, it's hard for them to gain trust so I think they won't do things that might affect their site. However, we should also do our part to be observant because we might not get cheated on sites but scammers are just roaming around and looking for new victims.
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April 16, 2019, 04:27:43 AM

  I think that people with lack of informations and experiences on what site they have penetrated will easy to cheat, because gambling can make people enjoy and have fun by playing, but unfortunately it may confused you and lead to addiction. Perhaps, featuring how the site has been grow and develope is my aspection to evade from cheating or loses and I think it is a wise and preferable way on how we play the game.
We need something in the gabling industry that completely eliminates the scams and block the doorway for them to enter again. I heard that Sicodice is a scam. They have been scamming the users and cancel your withdrawal request of you want to withdraw from the game. They simply block your messages. This is no doubt a perfect example of scam and this is how they cheat you. There are many more ways they do like this.
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April 15, 2019, 12:10:47 AM
I don't think many websites do that, but probably some scam websites may have done it already.

So this is why it's important to look for reliable gambling sites ,for some years on the market and with community support.
There are many gambling websites with these characteristics, so you have no reason to risk in Unknown ones.

Yes, that's what I was thinking. Reputable and established gambling websites never do such a thing like what the OP has mentioned unless the said websites were not that reputable and not legit gambling websites. But I am not disagreeing that some gambling websites system isn't really provably fair and was meant to cheat players.
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April 15, 2019, 12:00:01 AM

  I think that people with lack of informations and experiences on what site they have penetrated will easy to cheat, because gambling can make people enjoy and have fun by playing, but unfortunately it may confused you and lead to addiction. Perhaps, featuring how the site has been grow and develope is my aspection to evade from cheating or loses and I think it is a wise and preferable way on how we play the game.
More than addiction newbies will fall for the scam sites because we can see that there are lot of clone sites were created to cheat the beginners and also to steal the login details to phishing.But chances of reputed gambling site to cheat is very low.
They need to learn also, newbie are mostly victim of scams, they say that in crypto space there's a lot of scammers but for smart
gamblers, they can avoid scams. We gambling and know the risk, and the possibility that we will be scam by some sites are part of the risk already.
We can use this forum as a source in finding good gambling sites, there are a lot if we will just look.
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April 14, 2019, 02:36:04 PM

  I think that people with lack of informations and experiences on what site they have penetrated will easy to cheat, because gambling can make people enjoy and have fun by playing, but unfortunately it may confused you and lead to addiction. Perhaps, featuring how the site has been grow and develope is my aspection to evade from cheating or loses and I think it is a wise and preferable way on how we play the game.
More than addiction newbies will fall for the scam sites because we can see that there are lot of clone sites were created to cheat the beginners and also to steal the login details to phishing.But chances of reputed gambling site to cheat is very low.
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