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Quote from: maydna on March 11, 2019, 06:05:24 AM

But the reality, we see that many gambling websites scam the gamblers, they don't send the money if a gambler wants to withdraw. They don't reply or answer the question from the member. The last thing that they do is shut down the website and leave it for a long time. They can do whatever they want to cheat you but like what you said if they want to make a success story in the gambling business, they need to make their members satisfy, and they will never scam the gamblers.

But such incidents are easy to avoid. Why would anybody trust a casino that came up two days ago and promising huge welcome bonuses and end up depositing there? They will obviously wait for the community feedback on forums like this one and other forums on the internet. But I can understand the rush that gamblers feel specially those who are addicted and need to take a view of a new site hoping that they can make up their loss on another site by gambling in this new site. Cheesy

Still its better to hold your horses for community feedback and verify bets - which are basics preventable things that everyone can do.

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Quote from: MFahad on March 10, 2019, 12:43:03 AM

The new scamming gambling sites will attract the customers bu giving lot of deposits bonus etc and in this way they can gather money which they will not let you withdraw. Undecided

Yes this is also can be a sign,scam sites will give you deposit free bitcoins for registration but they will ask you to deposit certain amount of cryptos to avail the withdrawal in this case we just have to avoid those gambling sites.

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It is not in the interest of gambling sites to cheat their users. I am talking about reputable and trusted crypto casinos. They have no reason to do that as the casino has always the house edge which is guaranteed to bring profits to the casino in the long term.

I know though that many not well known crypto casinos may play tricks on you or even worse scam you.

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Quote from: MFahad on March 10, 2019, 12:43:03 AM

Surely if you own a gambling sites, you will not do such cheap things because once a trust is loss, no one will return to the site. So if someone really want to earn from gambling business , they will never scam their users.

But the reality, we see that many gambling websites scam the gamblers, they don't send the money if a gambler wants to withdraw. They don't reply or answer the question from the member. The last thing that they do is shut down the website and leave it for a long time. They can do whatever they want to cheat you but like what you said if they want to make a success story in the gambling business, they need to make their members satisfy, and they will never scam the gamblers.

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Quote from: MFahad on February 19, 2019, 12:24:17 PM

Just do the analysis of the trusted gambling site, we will see that those sites will never scam or let down their users. They will also be fair with their users. They have established their sites to stay long term in the gambling business. Those sites who try to cheat their users, will eventually be move out of the business because people will stop returning back to these scam sites.

Gambling with your coins when it is the bear market is not bad only if you can make money with it. This gives you some privacy as well for example you are anonymous to the people. But I believe that making use of your coins in the bear market cannot give you as much as you can make with it upon a Bull Market. And yeah there are countless people who love to make use of fiat so no issue if you use that.

Quote from: imstillthebest on March 05, 2019, 04:37:58 AM

Gambling sites cant cheat on us but gamblers are because they are creating a strategy, method , scripts , bots , and many other tools and software just to bypass the system of gambling site. But im aware that there are gambling sites that are scam altough they are not be consider as cheaters .

In a conversation with an expert, I stumbled upon a shocking fact that gambling-despite being a billion dollar industry-manipulates you. All these big fishes play different strategies to trap you if you are wining big hands. Have you ever though about why do you loss more than you win ?

Do visit you are beingmanipulated.com and read and you would come to know how things work in the industry. Your opponent might be the man of the house who is already planned to win.

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Quote from: Moiyah on March 09, 2019, 02:19:45 AM

Thanks for reminding us. That is why whenever I do register on their website and password was needed to log in, I do have a doubt on them. Some new gambling website are also suspicious to me so, I did not deposit high amount of bitcoin in case that scenario you mentioned will happen.
Anyhow, I do advice to just trust the established and old gaming sites rather than risking your funds in some new casinos.

Not all the new gambling sites are scammers but being with cautious can sae us if there is a scam attempt.You can even find the scam gambling and legit ambling sites even at they are very new here,one thing we need to look is if they are giving lot of bonus at initial stage or affilate marketing might get suspicious activity.

That's the reason why I didn't trust newly launched gambling site, and having huge bonuses may sound like a shady gambling site. I must prefer to wait for at least 4-5 months existence on the site and no more complaint regarding withdrawal that most probably gamblings sites have. Ain't know how it works gambling site that can cheat us if we saw how to bet/roll then is that probably fair game.

That doesn't work in every case. Think, why new sites give you so many bonuses and free spins? There is a big competition on the field of online gambling and how else new sites can attract users? So, such things as big bonuses should not scare new users.

Giving free bouns doesn't mean they are scammers but if they are doing it bit over then it might get a thinking of it.In my opinion a best site no need any kind of free promotions these are just to attract the users and earn more for themselves from that players are not going to earn much.I still believe if a gambling site is fairly working without any issues and best customer support then they will stand out among others.

Well let these new sites prove themselves first in time. Don't be someone who's willing to try them and then let others know if they're scam or not. Treat them as shady and stick to proven gambling sites. There are reasons why these sites are being supported and have a huge following. You can't do anything if a site cheats on you since even casinos do that.

The new scamming gambling sites will attract the customers bu giving lot of deposits bonus etc and in this way they can gather money which they will not let you withdraw. Undecided

Quote from: emberbekas on February 19, 2019, 10:05:05 AM

I think there are many ways gambling sites can do to trick their users, but I'm sure people will realize it as soon as possible, so that the site won't last longer. Therefore, for us, it would be better to use a site that has been around for a long period of time. Gambling sites that can last longer and are still used by many people usually have a better level of trust.

Surely if you own a gambling sites, you will not do such cheap things because once a trust is loss, no one will return to the site. So if someone really want to earn from gambling business , they will never scam their users.

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Quote from: jrrsparkles on March 09, 2019, 06:34:55 AM

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Quote from: Moiyah on March 09, 2019, 02:19:45 AM

Thanks for reminding us. That is why whenever I do register on their website and password was needed to log in, I do have a doubt on them. Some new gambling website are also suspicious to me so, I did not deposit high amount of bitcoin in case that scenario you mentioned will happen.
Anyhow, I do advice to just trust the established and old gaming sites rather than risking your funds in some new casinos.

Not all the new gambling sites are scammers but being with cautious can sae us if there is a scam attempt.You can even find the scam gambling and legit ambling sites even at they are very new here,one thing we need to look is if they are giving lot of bonus at initial stage or affilate marketing might get suspicious activity.

That's the reason why I didn't trust newly launched gambling site, and having huge bonuses may sound like a shady gambling site. I must prefer to wait for at least 4-5 months existence on the site and no more complaint regarding withdrawal that most probably gamblings sites have. Ain't know how it works gambling site that can cheat us if we saw how to bet/roll then is that probably fair game.

That doesn't work in every case. Think, why new sites give you so many bonuses and free spins? There is a big competition on the field of online gambling and how else new sites can attract users? So, such things as big bonuses should not scare new users.

Giving free bouns doesn't mean they are scammers but if they are doing it bit over then it might get a thinking of it.In my opinion a best site no need any kind of free promotions these are just to attract the users and earn more for themselves from that players are not going to earn much.I still believe if a gambling site is fairly working without any issues and best customer support then they will stand out among others.

Well let these new sites prove themselves first in time. Don't be someone who's willing to try them and then let others know if they're scam or not. Treat them as shady and stick to proven gambling sites. There are reasons why these sites are being supported and have a huge following. You can't do anything if a site cheats on you since even casinos do that.

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Quote from: greeklogos on March 09, 2019, 03:11:57 AM

Quote from: sheenshane on March 09, 2019, 03:02:37 AM

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Quote from: Moiyah on March 09, 2019, 02:19:45 AM

Thanks for reminding us. That is why whenever I do register on their website and password was needed to log in, I do have a doubt on them. Some new gambling website are also suspicious to me so, I did not deposit high amount of bitcoin in case that scenario you mentioned will happen.
Anyhow, I do advice to just trust the established and old gaming sites rather than risking your funds in some new casinos.

Not all the new gambling sites are scammers but being with cautious can sae us if there is a scam attempt.You can even find the scam gambling and legit ambling sites even at they are very new here,one thing we need to look is if they are giving lot of bonus at initial stage or affilate marketing might get suspicious activity.

That's the reason why I didn't trust newly launched gambling site, and having huge bonuses may sound like a shady gambling site. I must prefer to wait for at least 4-5 months existence on the site and no more complaint regarding withdrawal that most probably gamblings sites have. Ain't know how it works gambling site that can cheat us if we saw how to bet/roll then is that probably fair game.

That doesn't work in every case. Think, why new sites give you so many bonuses and free spins? There is a big competition on the field of online gambling and how else new sites can attract users? So, such things as big bonuses should not scare new users.

Giving free bouns doesn't mean they are scammers but if they are doing it bit over then it might get a thinking of it.In my opinion a best site no need any kind of free promotions these are just to attract the users and earn more for themselves from that players are not going to earn much.I still believe if a gambling site is fairly working without any issues and best customer support then they will stand out among others.

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Quote from: JohnBitCo on March 09, 2019, 02:30:01 AM

Its always been advised here that new gambling sites are subject to scam and should not be used at the launch of such sites.

Not sure what you mean by "subject to scam". I think you are trying to point out that they "may be scam sites". But its too early to jump into a conclusion without gather some evidence. Maybe try out the site and use third party verifier to verify bets to see if they are manipulating rolls.

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With the passage of time, if there is no complain noticed about the site, then we can deposit some money there to test and play gambling there.

Time does not change anything in the scammers domain. If they are going to scam they will build up a reputation and scam their players one day. Do not let time be the factor of decision making when it comes to putting your money into a site for playing.

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Feedback matters most and we should only gamble on the sites whom feedback is good and positive.

It takes just a few bucks to get tons of fake positive feedback on different forums and review sites for your own casino. Wink

Havent heard of coordinated shilling have you?

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Quote from: emberbekas on February 19, 2019, 10:05:05 AM

I think there are many ways gambling sites can do to trick their users, but I'm sure people will realize it as soon as possible, so that the site won't last longer. Therefore, for us, it would be better to use a site that has been around for a long period of time. Gambling sites that can last longer and are still used by many people usually have a better level of trust.

By the time the people realize that the particular gambling site is a scam, they already collect a lot of money and run away. All their cost of domain and hosting are covered with the scam money and they do not even care if the scammed amount is less. Soon they will come up with another site to scam people and we never know if the same group of people are scamming again and again with different domain names.

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Quote from: sheenshane on March 09, 2019, 03:02:37 AM

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Quote from: Moiyah on March 09, 2019, 02:19:45 AM

Thanks for reminding us. That is why whenever I do register on their website and password was needed to log in, I do have a doubt on them. Some new gambling website are also suspicious to me so, I did not deposit high amount of bitcoin in case that scenario you mentioned will happen.
Anyhow, I do advice to just trust the established and old gaming sites rather than risking your funds in some new casinos.

Not all the new gambling sites are scammers but being with cautious can sae us if there is a scam attempt.You can even find the scam gambling and legit ambling sites even at they are very new here,one thing we need to look is if they are giving lot of bonus at initial stage or affilate marketing might get suspicious activity.

That's the reason why I didn't trust newly launched gambling site, and having huge bonuses may sound like a shady gambling site. I must prefer to wait for at least 4-5 months existence on the site and no more complaint regarding withdrawal that most probably gamblings sites have. Ain't know how it works gambling site that can cheat us if we saw how to bet/roll then is that probably fair game.

That doesn't work in every case. Think, why new sites give you so many bonuses and free spins? There is a big competition on the field of online gambling and how else new sites can attract users? So, such things as big bonuses should not scare new users.

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Quote from: jrrsparkles on March 09, 2019, 02:40:43 AM

Quote from: Moiyah on March 09, 2019, 02:19:45 AM

Thanks for reminding us. That is why whenever I do register on their website and password was needed to log in, I do have a doubt on them. Some new gambling website are also suspicious to me so, I did not deposit high amount of bitcoin in case that scenario you mentioned will happen.
Anyhow, I do advice to just trust the established and old gaming sites rather than risking your funds in some new casinos.

Not all the new gambling sites are scammers but being with cautious can sae us if there is a scam attempt.You can even find the scam gambling and legit ambling sites even at they are very new here,one thing we need to look is if they are giving lot of bonus at initial stage or affilate marketing might get suspicious activity.

That's the reason why I didn't trust newly launched gambling site, and having huge bonuses may sound like a shady gambling site. I must prefer to wait for at least 4-5 months existence on the site and no more complaint regarding withdrawal that most probably gamblings sites have. Ain't know how it works gambling site that can cheat us if we saw how to bet/roll then is that probably fair game.

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Quote from: Moiyah on March 09, 2019, 02:19:45 AM

Thanks for reminding us. That is why whenever I do register on their website and password was needed to log in, I do have a doubt on them. Some new gambling website are also suspicious to me so, I did not deposit high amount of bitcoin in case that scenario you mentioned will happen.
Anyhow, I do advice to just trust the established and old gaming sites rather than risking your funds in some new casinos.

Not all the new gambling sites are scammers but being with cautious can sae us if there is a scam attempt.You can even find the scam gambling and legit ambling sites even at they are very new here,one thing we need to look is if they are giving lot of bonus at initial stage or affilate marketing might get suspicious activity.

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Quote from: Moiyah on March 09, 2019, 02:19:45 AM

Thanks for reminding us. That is why whenever I do register on their website and password was needed to log in, I do have a doubt on them. Some new gambling website are also suspicious to me so, I did not deposit high amount of bitcoin in case that scenario you mentioned will happen.
Anyhow, I do advice to just trust the established and old gaming sites rather than risking your funds in some new casinos.

Its always been advised here that new gambling sites are subject to scam and should not be used at the launch of such sites. With the passage of time, if there is no complain noticed about the site, then we can deposit some money there to test and play gambling there. Feedback matters most and we should only gamble on the sites whom feedback is good and positive.

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Thanks for reminding us. That is why whenever I do register on their website and password was needed to log in, I do have a doubt on them. Some new gambling website are also suspicious to me so, I did not deposit high amount of bitcoin in case that scenario you mentioned will happen.
Anyhow, I do advice to just trust the established and old gaming sites rather than risking your funds in some new casinos.

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Quote from: bitcoinfuck on January 08, 2019, 04:14:32 PM

Thing you need to know about probably fair websites

1> you control your part of secret
2> website has its know secure text, you get hash for it, so it ensure that there can not be any alteration to the server secret

so a bet roll is generated using 1 & 2, which ensures there is no cheat.

Now consider this

1> your account is hosted on there website, all it takes is 1 command to database to delete your whole account and you will not prove anything.

suppose a user deposited 10 BTC, the website can simply delete his account and claim its never been created, so what use are your secrets hash.

2> or they can alter your password and claim its been hacked and its your responsibility

[ remember : password is saved as hash in the database, so they cannot know your password but they can definitely change it , and claim its been hacked]

FOR NOW THE ONLY SOLUTION SEEMS TO ME IS TO USE , A SMART ETHEREUM CONTACT OR USE BITCOIN ON-CHAIN BETTING.

I guess not all gambling sites are like what you have said. Maybe what you were saying can be illegitimate gambling sites that maybe promising for the crowd to attract players to have big deposits and run out after getting it. But there are legitimate sites who possess legit services for us gamblers that will take shoulder of the responsibilities with our money in terms of fiat or even crypto. That is why before getting attached into a certain site, we better make sure its legitimacy so that we will not be fooled by those gambling sites and better not to do such big deposits because the presence of money do really triggers greed beneath our souls. That is why I just do small deposits only into the online casino I am currently into to ensure my money but I do trust and believe on their credibility that my money is safe. It is just that I just want to deposit amounts that I will just use for playing their variety of games and as well enjoy their great bonus for doing my first deposit. Not all gambling sites are cheaters because there are still sites that is truthful to their promise so better be good on choosing your site.

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Quote from: imstillthebest on March 05, 2019, 04:37:58 AM

Gambling sites cant cheat on us but gamblers are because they are creating a strategy, method , scripts , bots , and many other tools and software just to bypass the system of gambling site. But im aware that there are gambling sites that are scam altough they are not be consider as cheaters .

But I am afraid that is only for temporary because I am sure that the admin will fix the hole so they will be sure that the gamblers cannot cheat anymore. Besides that, for gamblers who have been caught for cheat, they will give banned to that gamblers so he won't give a problem to the sites. I don't know about gambling sites cheat or not because I never found a proves but, of course, they can easily to cheat us.

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Gambling sites cant cheat on us but gamblers are because they are creating a strategy, method , scripts , bots , and many other tools and software just to bypass the system of gambling site. But im aware that there are gambling sites that are scam altough they are not be consider as cheaters .

Quote from: semobo on February 19, 2019, 08:26:56 AM

You also need to know that one of the old and most trusted gambling sites having issues on withdrawing high amount in the recent days not sure it was resolved but when amount is igger trust no one.

Having an issue on withdrawal is fairly normal because all sites do also experience it . you dont need to worry if you are already using a long running site ( old site ) because they are already trusted . the chances of scamming you by them is slim

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Quote from: emberbekas on February 19, 2019, 10:05:05 AM

I think there are many ways gambling sites can do to trick their users, but I'm sure people will realize it as soon as possible, so that the site won't last longer. Therefore, for us, it would be better to use a site that has been around for a long period of time. Gambling sites that can last longer and are still used by many people usually have a better level of trust.

Just do the analysis of the trusted gambling site, we will see that those sites will never scam or let down their users. They will also be fair with their users. They have established their sites to stay long term in the gambling business. Those sites who try to cheat their users, will eventually be move out of the business because people will stop returning back to these scam sites.

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I think there are many ways gambling sites can do to trick their users, but I'm sure people will realize it as soon as possible, so that the site won't last longer. Therefore, for us, it would be better to use a site that has been around for a long period of time. Gambling sites that can last longer and are still used by many people usually have a better level of trust.

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