How honest and transparent are casinos? - page 9.

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Quote from: Kakmakr on April 03, 2023, 12:54:38 AM

I have seen several casinos with promotions where they do "drops" to thousands of people or they give bonuses to several gamblers, but how transparent is this process?

Do you think casinos are really doing these drops to 1000s of people or are they skimming from the top.... ? They might say a drop is for 2500 people, but they might only drop for 500 people and nobody will know. Yes, some of those 500 people will report that they have received the drop and it will look legit.... but is it really?

How can the gamblers verify that the actual amount of people are receiving the drop or the bonus, if there are no list to verify it? Let's discuss this.. I am curious if other people also thought about this... Tongue

People here have accounts at gambling sites and they can tell if they ever got these drops or bonuses from the gambling site ?

For me, yes the gambling sites do give away free money sometimes but that money is not so big and also the gambling sites earn too much money, giving a tiny portion back to gamblers will only gain gamblers' trust and I would call it an effective marketing technique.

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Quote from: Kakmakr on April 03, 2023, 12:54:38 AM

I have seen several casinos with promotions where they do "drops" to thousands of people or they give bonuses to several gamblers, but how transparent is this process?

Do you think casinos are really doing these drops to 1000s of people or are they skimming from the top.... ? They might say a drop is for 2500 people, but they might only drop for 500 people and nobody will know. Yes, some of those 500 people will report that they have received the drop and it will look legit.... but is it really?

How can the gamblers verify that the actual amount of people are receiving the drop or the bonus, if there are no list to verify it? Let's discuss this.. I am curious if other people also thought about this... Tongue

I don’t think being honest and transparent would matter the most for a casino. The fact that it’s their money, then they will only use it to double or triple their profits in the most possible way. Giving bonuses is not really that they are obliged to do so, but in order to attract more players, giving bonuses and promotions is what most of the casinos are doing to attract new users and players, and to retain those who have been dedicated to them since from the beginning.

and this is the very reason why we can't question the honesty of the casinos when it comes to their bonuses or drops. because those are just bonuses and they are just doing these on their own accord and on their own funds. just be grateful that they have this kind of perks from time to time.
as long as they are not cheating their players in terms of their winnings, i don't have any issue with how they distribute their rewards or how much of it has given to their patrons.

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Quote from: Kakmakr on April 03, 2023, 12:54:38 AM

I have seen several casinos with promotions where they do "drops" to thousands of people or they give bonuses to several gamblers, but how transparent is this process?

Do you think casinos are really doing these drops to 1000s of people or are they skimming from the top.... ? They might say a drop is for 2500 people, but they might only drop for 500 people and nobody will know. Yes, some of those 500 people will report that they have received the drop and it will look legit.... but is it really?

How can the gamblers verify that the actual amount of people are receiving the drop or the bonus, if there are no list to verify it? Let's discuss this.. I am curious if other people also thought about this... Tongue

If they are not true to their words they will lose the trust of their loyal players, if they say they are dropping these bonuses to qualified players, they have to mean it or those who are qualified and never receive anything will complain, they need not post the list because players have privacy setting to protect their account and casinos will not compromise their players' privacy in exchange for a list, sometimes these bonuses and giveaways are announced on a newsletter and kept within the community, it's not an open list that outsiders can just look up.

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Quote from: Kakmakr on April 03, 2023, 12:54:38 AM

I have seen several casinos with promotions where they do "drops" to thousands of people or they give bonuses to several gamblers, but how transparent is this process?

Do you think casinos are really doing these drops to 1000s of people or are they skimming from the top.... ? They might say a drop is for 2500 people, but they might only drop for 500 people and nobody will know. Yes, some of those 500 people will report that they have received the drop and it will look legit.... but is it really?

How can the gamblers verify that the actual amount of people are receiving the drop or the bonus, if there are no list to verify it? Let's discuss this.. I am curious if other people also thought about this... Tongue

I don’t think being honest and transparent would matter the most for a casino. The fact that it’s their money, then they will only use it to double or triple their profits in the most possible way. Giving bonuses is not really that they are obliged to do so, but in order to attract more players, giving bonuses and promotions is what most of the casinos are doing to attract new users and players, and to retain those who have been dedicated to them since from the beginning.

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Quote from: Ebede on April 03, 2023, 05:32:32 PM

Quote from: Desmong on April 03, 2023, 04:27:51 AM

There is no way you can verify that because most time the give such a big estimate so that many gamblers will think that they are giving out huge sum of amount as giveaways or bonus. This is one of the bussiness techniques these casinos uses to lure gamblers to there casinos and make more money. I feel like every other casinos also do the same to promote their business to the next level.

this is the method of casinos platform now, all this new casino platforms are using bonus to trap or bringing many people into their platform because there is no gamblers who can resist a bonus because a gambling person need what it will use to test it prediction if it will be a very big chance for it to win in gambling or not that is why bonuses us in a platform always have a very big trafficking in their platform

If you are an old gambler then if there are odd numbers which are really that good to be true then would really be suspicious about it and would really be have doubts on dealing with it but if you are a newbie who doesnt really have much knowledge about numbers then you would definitely be diving in without having that kind of knowledge but later on you would really be that realizing that it isnt really that worth.

Transparency is something that we cant really be able to prove out.Just like on what others been saying, we dont know on whats happening behind those monitors and the codes been programmed.
Thing here is that we do play on the reputable ones which we could somewhat assure.

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Quote from: Kakmakr on April 03, 2023, 12:54:38 AM

I have seen several casinos with promotions where they do "drops" to thousands of people or they give bonuses to several gamblers, but how transparent is this process?

Do you think casinos are really doing these drops to 1000s of people or are they skimming from the top.... ? They might say a drop is for 2500 people, but they might only drop for 500 people and nobody will know. Yes, some of those 500 people will report that they have received the drop and it will look legit.... but is it really?

How can the gamblers verify that the actual amount of people are receiving the drop or the bonus, if there are no list to verify it? Let's discuss this.. I am curious if other people also thought about this... Tongue

Often we can't as individuals, or least i don't know a way. But when we think it trough, i wouldn't be worried. As casinos are trading millions in a day wouldn't need to cheat. Because getting caught would mean people would talk about it. And you would need only few people to first start a doubt, and confirm such a thing could be catastrophic to the casino. And once again, they have money to pay and it's peanuts to them, so why wouldn't they pay, as at the same time it's excellent marketing tactic.

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Quote from: Desmong on April 03, 2023, 04:27:51 AM

There is no way you can verify that because most time the give such a big estimate so that many gamblers will think that they are giving out huge sum of amount as giveaways or bonus. This is one of the bussiness techniques these casinos uses to lure gamblers to there casinos and make more money. I feel like every other casinos also do the same to promote their business to the next level.

this is the method of casinos platform now, all this new casino platforms are using bonus to trap or bringing many people into their platform because there is no gamblers who can resist a bonus because a gambling person need what it will use to test it prediction if it will be a very big chance for it to win in gambling or not that is why bonuses us in a platform always have a very big trafficking in their platform

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As long as the issue is solely based in drops, I don't think there are many who care, drop is a giveaway type that requires you to be in the right place at the right time, and for casinos, it is usually in their chat box that the drop happens, and it is always in a tiny amount, it is always so insignificant due to the number of persons receiving it.

As of now, I have no reason to doubt that casinos are not being genuine in terms of drops, or chat rain as some refer it as, I don't see why they should be dishonest on a tiny thing as a drop they offer to their community.

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Quote from: Kakmakr on April 03, 2023, 12:54:38 AM

I have seen several casinos with promotions where they do "drops" to thousands of people or they give bonuses to several gamblers, but how transparent is this process?

There are casinos that are always transparent with their promotion and for the record, every promotion has its requirement, and once a user achieves the request requirement such a user is eligible for the winning prize.

Quote from: Kakmakr on April 03, 2023, 12:54:38 AM

Do you think casinos are really doing these drops to 1000s of people or are they skimming from the top.... ? They might say a drop is for 2500 people, but they might only drop for 500 people and nobody will know. Yes, some of those 500 people will report that they have received the drop and it will look legit.... but is it really?

I understand your curiosity but the casinos that always offer this promotion are making a lot of fortune. If the question was about casinos hiring influencers for hype promotion, yes that's possible but if it's about promotions that involve high prizes if the casino is reputable they always make much than enough through their game promotion.

Quote from: Kakmakr on April 03, 2023, 12:54:38 AM

How can the gamblers verify that the actual amount of people are receiving the drop or the bonus, if there are no list to verify it? Let's discuss this.. I am curious if other people also thought about this... Tongue

There's no way people can verify if the promotion is not handled on this forum, but there's a chance to know the promo winner if the casino post the promo winner list.

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Quote from: Kakmakr on April 03, 2023, 12:54:38 AM

I have seen several casinos with promotions where they do "drops" to thousands of people or they give bonuses to several gamblers, but how transparent is this process?

Do you think casinos are really doing these drops to 1000s of people or are they skimming from the top.... ? They might say a drop is for 2500 people, but they might only drop for 500 people and nobody will know. Yes, some of those 500 people will report that they have received the drop and it will look legit.... but is it really?

How can the gamblers verify that the actual amount of people are receiving the drop or the bonus, if there are no list to verify it? Let's discuss this.. I am curious if other people also thought about this... Tongue

Is this something that really matters?

As long we arent receiving any complaints and issues been raised about not getting bonuses or whatsoever correlated to this, then it should be fine.Also, we do know that bonuses and drops arent really that
interesting at all considering about terms and conditions which arent that shocking anymore. About giving prizes and bonus drops without terms then there's no way on knowing if those are legit
players or something that part of their company but its none of our business because no matter how we do try to uncover, for sure they would really be that dumb to leave up some holes
and showing off on what they are really doing.If thats the case then lets just play and just enjoy on what we do have now.

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You can only know the transparency of casino when you have penetrate to their site and you know the nature of things they are operating with because you cannot stand outside and I know how important or her meaningful a particular casino site is all about so I think we have two already partner within the side first before we know the important of it or conclude of casino

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Between transparency and protecting their users' information, they will choose the latter, casinos have features that will protect their privacy while betting so if they are qualified to receive the bonuses and the giveaways their username will not show up and it will not reflect the real information on what's on the lists, so why bother to show it.

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Quote from: Kakmakr on April 03, 2023, 12:54:38 AM

I have seen several casinos with promotions where they do "drops" to thousands of people or they give bonuses to several gamblers, but how transparent is this process?

Do you think casinos are really doing these drops to 1000s of people or are they skimming from the top.... ? They might say a drop is for 2500 people, but they might only drop for 500 people and nobody will know. Yes, some of those 500 people will report that they have received the drop and it will look legit.... but is it really?

How can the gamblers verify that the actual amount of people are receiving the drop or the bonus, if there are no list to verify it? Let's discuss this.. I am curious if other people also thought about this... Tongue

Well I understand the point you are trying to highlight, but am pretty sure no one can actually know the truth about the bonuses given to different users in their platform apart from the actually people involved in the distribution process or the owner of the casino. Like you said the casino can actually tell lies that they have given the bonuses to a specific number and this might possibly spike other gamblers to try and see if they would be awarded same bonuses.

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I do not see any reason why a reputable and well-known casino would need to do such things, however assuming we are talking about a relatively small casino which has not been around that much; I would say the best way to try to get information is checking the terms of the drop and promotions.

For example, if a casino claimed they were going to give away 10k$ in bonuses and if in the terms of the promotion does not mention the minimum or maximum number of winners, then it is safe to assume their staff is reserving the right to distribute the pool among those who participate.

It is a similar situation when it is announced there would be prizes distributed "up to X amount", it does not necessarily means the casino would distribute it all, but rather their are letting people know the maximum possible amount of money they can give away in that specific promotion.

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Quote from: Fortify on April 03, 2023, 03:29:09 PM

Quote from: Kakmakr on April 03, 2023, 12:54:38 AM

I have seen several casinos with promotions where they do "drops" to thousands of people or they give bonuses to several gamblers, but how transparent is this process?

Do you think casinos are really doing these drops to 1000s of people or are they skimming from the top.... ? They might say a drop is for 2500 people, but they might only drop for 500 people and nobody will know. Yes, some of those 500 people will report that they have received the drop and it will look legit.... but is it really?

How can the gamblers verify that the actual amount of people are receiving the drop or the bonus, if there are no list to verify it? Let's discuss this.. I am curious if other people also thought about this... Tongue

This is definitely suspicious behavior and not something you'll tend to find at a casino that offers lots of mainstream functionality. It's definitely a way to trick players into depositing more and I'd certainly steer clear of any site offering these sorts of promos. Either that, or they are raking in so much from players that they're able to throw these supposed drops back. There are a lot of psychological tricks that these sites can use to misdirect as well, like saying 1,000 players received up to 0.01 BTC free plays - a single high roller player might have got it and every other player got 0.00001. You're right, they're not audited, so nobody is going to know what they're really doing in the background.

Like he said there is no way of proving it since there is no way to verify as there is no list as well. But users will not suspect things like this after all it's a drop and everybody is happy to play. A promotion is funded, but we may not know all are given equally.

Casinos collect data and see the activity of users, they know who they would give more and less for some. If they see you are more addicted to Casino games, I guess the addicted ones are prone to deposit and lose more BTC so probably more drops to them.

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In order to protect against fraud and cheating, a casino that meets all standards employs strict security measures. They employ security personnel who are trained to detect and prevent fraudulent activities, and they use cameras and other monitoring systems to watch for suspicious behavior. It is typically required that casinos obtain licenses from the government or regulatory bodies, which outline specific rules and guidelines. Ensure fair play, transparency, and accountability, as well as that the games are not rigged in any way.

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One thing you should know is that these casinos will always have the budget. They will always have something to fund these promotions that are coming on their platforms. If not, then they do have some serious problems on their finances. If the members of the casino are still receiving their payouts on time on top of the promotions, then that is a platform that I can trust––on their finances at least. There is a limit on my trust though, and the moment that I haven't receive the bonus or my payout, that's when I'll dip.

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Quote from: Kakmakr on April 03, 2023, 12:54:38 AM

I have seen several casinos with promotions where they do "drops" to thousands of people or they give bonuses to several gamblers, but how transparent is this process?

Do you think casinos are really doing these drops to 1000s of people or are they skimming from the top.... ? They might say a drop is for 2500 people, but they might only drop for 500 people and nobody will know. Yes, some of those 500 people will report that they have received the drop and it will look legit.... but is it really?

How can the gamblers verify that the actual amount of people are receiving the drop or the bonus, if there are no list to verify it? Let's discuss this.. I am curious if other people also thought about this... Tongue

This is definitely suspicious behavior and not something you'll tend to find at a casino that offers lots of mainstream functionality. It's definitely a way to trick players into depositing more and I'd certainly steer clear of any site offering these sorts of promos. Either that, or they are raking in so much from players that they're able to throw these supposed drops back. There are a lot of psychological tricks that these sites can use to misdirect as well, like saying 1,000 players received up to 0.01 BTC free plays - a single high roller player might have got it and every other player got 0.00001. You're right, they're not audited, so nobody is going to know what they're really doing in the background.

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Quote from: Kakmakr on April 03, 2023, 12:54:38 AM

Do you think casinos are really doing these drops to 1000s of people or are they skimming from the top.... ? They might say a drop is for 2500 people, but they might only drop for 500 people and nobody will know. Yes, some of those 500 people will report that they have received the drop and it will look legit.... but is it really?

How can the gamblers verify that the actual amount of people are receiving the drop or the bonus, if there are no list to verify it? Let's discuss this.. I am curious if other people also thought about this... Tongue

For me, I don't think that's an issue gamblers need to worry about, because in as much as such casino offers a very perfect gambling environment, fast deposit, withdrawal and a 24hrs active customer support ever always available to help users resolve issues on time, I'm totally okay with that. Because even if a casino did promise to offer a drop to 2500 gamblers and finally fulfilled its promise by sending it to the 2500 gamblers, you still won't know as there is one such tool to verify such information.
It's casinos money, and they have the right to do whatever they wish with it, in as much as they don't scam people of their funds.

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Quote from: pawanjain on April 03, 2023, 12:19:20 PM

The truth is we can't really find out if the site is actually giving away the drops or not.
Some do post the draws which can be verified but most of the times its just out in the thin air.
Trusted and reputed sites don't cheat their users usually because one mistake can decline their user base by a huge margin.
This is why they tend to do genuine promotions only which in turn increases their user base.

It's just not possible to have assurance the process is legit, because even if the casino is transparent by showing the users' profiles who won the prize, we will never be able to make sure if those are real accounts, or accounts created by the casino itself to fake a promotion. All we have in our favour is the casino's credibility with the community and it's our decision to trust them or not.

That is why I prefer promotions which reward everyone who join it by completing a requirement, instead of joining promotions which will select only few participants to be the winners.

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