Topic: How much return are we expecting next bull run? - page 3. (Read 881 times)

but be reminded that Bull trap is still alive and never underestimate this chances, we have seen more of those in the past and yes that is devastating .

so 40k might be the beginning of bull run  or we can call this month of 28k as the start of bull, as actually no one knows.

and with the roller coaster price happening? wondering what could really go according to our hopes?

Honestly it greatly depends on the sorts of attacks on Bitcoin we are gonna see the next couple years. In 2021 American investors were obsessed with the great entrepreneur turned market manipulator turned looney toon conspiracy theorist Elon Musk, and when he announced Tesla will no longer accept Bitcoin for payment (which was a complete non-event) all the Musk obsessed people freaked out and the price crashed, and around the same time China banned Bitcoin mining so that was a double whammy in the middle of the bull run that crashed the price down by 50% and it took the rest of the momentum of the bull run to just barely break the early-2021 ATH.


I could see in 2025 the US govt / regulators timing action against crypto to try to stall the bull market. Though they may not wait that long as they are already starting their attacks on the industry now. But if there is some big govt attack on the industry during the big bull year in late 2024 or 2025 we could see another fairly weak bull market like 2021. If nothing like that happens though I'd expect the next bull run to be about as big as the last one (cuz of diminishing returns we'd normally expect a significantly smaller one, all else being equal). Last one was 3.45x from old ATH, another 3.45x from current ATH is $238k. I'd put that as the max peak in 2025 if everything goes great, but more realistically probably $200k would be the peak of a good bull run, or if there is some sort of serious attack on the industry or serious market disruption where we get a weak bull run again maybe it'd top out at more like $150k.

I'm just hoping whatever s**t US regulators and govt are gonna pull on crypto industry gets put out in the open the next 12 months before the halving so by the time the bull market really gets going the regulatory landscape will at least be more settled. Though considering the SEC is making it obvious that their only intention is to sow chaos in the market and provide no guidance or regulatory clarity I'm guessing they are still gonna be making trouble unless Gensler gets kicked out and someone focused on doing their job rather than taking down the industry gets put in his place.


We gotta be a lot more conservative in estimates of bitcoin price growth these days as post-2017 it became too big to ignore and so whereas it used to be a get rich quick play every bull market now there are many very powerful entrenched powers that are very uneducated on Bitcoin or just scared of it so we should expect to see greater attacks on the industry and more anti-bitcoin/crypto misinformation. I'm expecting a much slower growth curve now that I had been expecting back in 2020. So my 2025 expectation isn't much higher than my original 2021 expectation. Also all the get rich quick speculators just pile into crap altcoins instead of Bitcoin cuz they don't know what they are doing so that steals some of the old extreme bull run explosiveness Bitcoin used to have. Bitcoin has moved into a store of value investment and its get rich quick days are over. Some people in 2021 were expecting $300k, but it won't get close to that even in 2025, it won't be until 2028/29 that we see $300k+. The only thing that would change this is if US politicians get educated on Bitcoin at some point and the US govt starts supporting Bitcoin, but I think that'll take a much longer time to happen.

it means that you are a newbie in this market, but even so you went to put your money in altcoins hoping to make profits as high as 20x, the old dreams and greed of 20x profits that made many people instead of having profits of 20x 20x lose everything in scam altcoins. I even thought that people would no longer fall into this greed for 20x or even 10x profits, but apparently time passes a lot but people's way of thinking hardly changes


in this case you are talking about bitcoin that you would only sell if you made 2x profits, but what about your altcoins, are you currently at a loss? I imagine that in case you have a loss with altcoins, it will not be 10%, without a doubt that it will be a loss of more than 10%, and you have to see that altcoins are not a guaranteed investment that can recover from their prices past highs, and the reason is very simple: every year there are more new altcoins with better technologies emerging and the market is getting very saturated, so don't be thinking something like: "altcoin x te ATH of 300$ and its current price is 50$, so when I buy now I will make a 6x profit... " is a wrong thought


well, i keep asking myself: how can this be called diversifying portfolio, this can be called playing the lottery, Is almost what you are doing
 

10x?

Is a big exaggeration, 5x would still be quite high

I want you to understand that the bullish market of cryptocurrency have no particular time for it occurrence but I believe that's a speculations made by some people about the bullish market of cryptocurrency are not perfectly correct but some in extent the bullish just occur when the demands in cryptosphere is high than the supply. But some assume that we shall experience a grate bullrun in 2024 but we can't rely on predictions of people but we shall follow the rotation or regulation of the market through chart to analyse when the market will be suitable or enters bullrun.

Some do even say that the bull run might be starting off early which i dont believe it that much considering that we are still too far off with the halving event which we do know that this is a solid
catalyst which we could really say that hits would really be giving out some impact which would push up prices into those new ATH's.Although it cant really be that so sure considering
that we dont know on what the future brings considering that there are lots of fundamentals and events around which you could really be able to say that
reaching up new heights wont really be that simple as it sounds.

There are big expectations in 2024 and 2025, but it's not the time yet. I still hope to collect a lot of bitcoins as long as the price is low enough this is a good phase to collect them.

I don't know, I don't know how long bitcoin will be under $30k like it is now, but as long as it's possible to buy above $30k then that's also a good thing to consider. The simple strategy is to be consistent while hoping it will pay off in the long term.

Basically the whole jokes about "diamond hands" is real, because if you do not sell easily then you will eventually make a profit. Most people do not realize this but if you keep doing that and make a return then you should be fine, I do not think that it would be hard to make a profit in the crypto world if you know what you are doing.

I believe that if you end up holding as long as you have to then you should be making some profit, there isn't any secret thing in here neither, all you have to do is just end up with some bitcoin when you purchase and when you do that then you will end up with a good return when the time comes and if you wait long enough.

Anyone who can survive in a bearish market, he must have a mentality, not be weak just because he sees erratic market movements, remember that you must be encouraged to remain solid so that you can continue to survive or even if you need to buy more at low prices, even I don't think this year will be true for the bulls and just need to capitalize while you still have money to spare for bitcoin.

Anyone can make expectations remember when the price hits $100K I think a lot of people will be selling because they have found several fold opportunities in buying at the current price, so 2024/25 could be a reality or can wait a little longer to wait for the real rally momentum.

Just want to try to survive more than 10 years that's all.

No one knows what will happen in the future, whether the price will go up or down. price movements that change at any time often make investors panic, patience is the main factor for one's success in investing. Initial plans are often ruined by himself, panic can change everything. When expecting big returns, you have to patiently wait until the price exceeds expectations, or at least take a stand when you have made a profit.

since you are new , then you are only expecting too much , consider that things may come opposite to what you are asking mate.

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I am looking for at least 50-100% of my folio to climb and also I am one of the most believer that Bitcoin will turn my money into a Gem lol.

you are new in the market but wanted to hear about bull run again? it has been years before happening why not focus in your investing strategy and that is buying?

never be to confident mate , because this market is changing every now and then.

It can be said that in March there was a fantastic increase so that many people were sure that in March was the beginning of the next bull, in my opinion if the price could touch $ 30k then the price would jump high until it was easy to reach $ 40k in a short time, just like a few days ago when the price $ 25k can be touched, the price continues to rise until it is easy to reach $ 28K and can last until now.

why only 2x? Don't you know if you can hold until the bull your asset will increase more than 2x? if you can hold your assets until the bulls come chances are that your assets will increase at least 5x from your current asset value.
bitcoins only 30% ? no problem, hopefully the rest you invest in the right altcoins. I recommend investing in the most popular altcoins such as ETH and BNB because they have lower risks and you will get maximum results when the bulls arrive.

Right now I'm not feeling to hot / i think will stay in this area for a long time.

we expect a very large increase that can occur 24/25. however, no one can say for sure whether this time the price of bitcoin will really go up or not.
However, I also have the same plan. I, will probably keep trying to hold onto my assets until the halving happens, or at least until the end of 2025. Although no one knows what will happen in that year, however, I also think that the bitcoin price could reach a very high price. at least close to ATH, or reach a new ATH.

You just have to keep holding because you'll smile at last, Bitcoin has never left anyone who trusted in him go unhappy, the market might be down now and encouraging you to sell but if you can resist that and hold just for one bull cycle to finished, you'll be the one smiling at last. Ignore all the fud ongoing and if you can't ignore online then go offline.

My expectations for 2024/25 is a minimum of 5-8x on the all time low of Bitcoin for the bear market. Your return of investment depends on when you got into Bitcoin lows, at $17k means a $136k when the null market comes. I feel we'll easily cross the $100k price in the cycle and price will go further.

There are only a few days left before the month of March ends and it seems we are not going to reach 30k, but that should not be a sign to worry for, this month despite the difficult start was a good one, so we can suppose that April may be an even better month, however there are too many unknown variables, the economy which seemed to have stabilized already is showing once again signs that this is not the case, and depending on how governments all around the world respond to this the price of bitcoin could move in one direction or the other.

I am of the same opinion. As the bitcoin market matures and the price rises, it is normal for the percentage returns to be lower. If this cycle has been x3.5, it would be normal going forward to expect at most that. Although we can't know for sure because high inflation or high adoption could make the return higher, but I certainly don't expect returns of x20 or more as in the early cycles.

I think next cycle we are going to have x3 at most. The $100,000 barrier will be hard to break, and I think the $200,000 barrier won't be broken until the next one.

I think it is unknown, even if bitcoin is rising we still don't know if it will continue to bullish or it will fall, earnings is depending on our limits not on the market condition because even if the market continue to get better but if we don't have a patience to hold we still didn't get 10x or more profit.

I think the return that can be the start of the next bull run is the price can reach $ 35k, I'm sure if March can reach $ 30k then April will skyrocket to reach $ 50k, we don't just do analysis without action, it's better to buy before prices hit new records.