How much return are we expecting next bull run? - page 5.

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Quote from: Pterosaur on March 22, 2023, 01:50:24 PM

My portfolio will consists of 50% Bitcoin, I believe that Bitcoin has proven itself again with the banks collapsing here and there, they are making Bitcoin to be more noticeable throughout the world, my price prediction for Bitcoin in 2025 is 150k, still I won't entirely sleep on this because the chart is what I follow, whatever the chart says will determine my hold and selling.

We are all speculators here on the market on which there's no exact price and everyone could really call on their own which they do seem the price would really be ending up.The common thing on here is that we do really expect and anticipate something positive on this upcoming bull run.Some people do even believe that it is really starting now but observing out on whats happening in the market then its really that contrary.
Seeing these green candles or pumps then it is really just that ordinary day we've do always seen. For expectation then it would really be that on positive which it would
really be just that normal.

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Quote from: JamesDaniel90 on March 20, 2023, 06:54:17 AM

Bitcoin takes up 30% of my portfolio with the rest in altcoins.

What is everyone expecting in 2024/25 bull run? Is a 10x a good return or should we be hoping for more?

First off, Bitcoin should be wayyyy more than 30% of your portfolio. 70% altcoins is crazy risky. That sort of portfolio relies on being lucky, which is never a good investment strategy. You never know what altcoins will blow up in the upcoming market cycle and which ones will fade or just go sideways. While the one guaranteed thing is Bitcoin will go up a ton.

Anyway, personally I'm expecting to see $150k-$200k peak in 2025. It could be a bit higher, may see <$250k. I doubt it would be lower than $150k unless some major thing disrupts the bull run. Granted, there was a major disruption in the bull run in 2021 so it is possible, just hopefully it won't happen two cycles in a row.

As Lucius already mentioned a few days ago, a large amount of altcoins are meaningless and may be subject to a crash even if the market is trending upwards. Thus, I find your portfolio quite risky, and even though I don't know what altcoins you're holding, if I were you, I'd invest a greater percentage in Bitcoin. Moreover, the return the OP is expecting sounds quite extravagant. Personally, I mostly hold Bitcoin, and during this current bull-run, I managed to break even and surpass my DCA. I'd be happy if Bitcoin were to double in value within 2024.

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Quote from: JamesDaniel90 on March 20, 2023, 06:54:17 AM

Bitcoin takes up 30% of my portfolio with the rest in altcoins.

What is everyone expecting in 2024/25 bull run? Is a 10x a good return or should we be hoping for more?

First off, Bitcoin should be wayyyy more than 30% of your portfolio. 70% altcoins is crazy risky. That sort of portfolio relies on being lucky, which is never a good investment strategy. You never know what altcoins will blow up in the upcoming market cycle and which ones will fade or just go sideways. While the one guaranteed thing is Bitcoin will go up a ton.

Anyway, personally I'm expecting to see $150k-$200k peak in 2025. It could be a bit higher, may see <$250k. I doubt it would be lower than $150k unless some major thing disrupts the bull run. Granted, there was a major disruption in the bull run in 2021 so it is possible, just hopefully it won't happen two cycles in a row.

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My portfolio will consists of 50% Bitcoin, I believe that Bitcoin has proven itself again with the banks collapsing here and there, they are making Bitcoin to be more noticeable throughout the world, my price prediction for Bitcoin in 2025 is 150k, still I won't entirely sleep on this because the chart is what I follow, whatever the chart says will determine my hold and selling.

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I’m a believer that Bitcoin’s price is a 4-year fractal pattern. With this thinking I had expected a peak of $200K in December of 2021. However, FTX apparently was taking people’s money for BTC and spending it on shitcoins, thus manipulating the price downward. This is what I believe kept the last peak from happening. If you believe that as well, then you could make the case for a $800K BTC by the end of 2025. That is if no shenanigans happen again this time.

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Quote from: GeorgeJohn on March 20, 2023, 03:41:18 PM

Quote from: JamesDaniel90 on March 20, 2023, 06:54:17 AM

Have been in crypto just over a year now so have yet to experience a bull market and up till now I have just bought and held.

Currently my portfolio is 10% down and am not planning on selling any until I 2x at least.

Bitcoin takes up 30% of my portfolio with the rest in altcoins.

What is everyone expecting in 2024/25 bull run? Is a 10x a good return or should we be hoping for more?

It determined on what you have in mind, if you are into short term investment, its obvious that you have make some reasonable profit depending on the fraction you invested, but long term investors want the increment to continue to accelerate so that they can make more profits, so what long term investors concentrate is to ensure we have continuity acceleration of market so that mega profits can be realised. The decision is determined by you if you are running for long-term or short-term.

The OP looks like he is into longer-terms because he said he is into crypto for more than a year now. If he managed to wait this long, then I think it's better to increase his target. He shouldn't sell at 2x or 3x only but over 5x might be a reasonable one.

As much as long-term investors want the price to rise, they must also ensure that they constantly increase the coins in their bags. They can achieve this by mostly doing a DCA without minding the price. Maybe some are waiting for a correction or a short dip in the price before they invest because this is also possible because cryptos are still unstable or volatile in other words.

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Quote from: JamesDaniel90 on March 22, 2023, 06:59:49 AM

We are only a few thousand away from $30k which we could hit in a matter of days/weeks.

I think by the end of the year Bitcoin will be at least $40k and once we start to gain momentum going into 2024 won't take long for us to reach $50k and then from there pushing onto the all time high.

But it's not easy to reach the price of $30k because as we know, bitcoin price goes up and down and even touched $27k some time ago. But fortunately, now the price has started to increase again to $ 28k and there is a tendency to go higher. Hopefully, the $30k price can be reached shortly, opening up more opportunities to continue bitcoin's long rally.

But once it hits $30k, the bitcoin price will go through many ups and downs, which can send many people into a panic if they are not properly prepared. So from here onwards, we need peace of mind to see an opportunity to continue to increase the amount of bitcoins as our investment.

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Quote from: Epaper on March 21, 2023, 11:57:47 AM

Of course the hope of many people in Bullrun will have great returns. However, it is very difficult to predict how much return on the next Bullrun. But, I am sure that when the next Bitcoin Halving the price of Bitcoin will again set a new ATH record. So holding Bitcoin until Halving occurs is a good step to get big profits.

The next halving is indeed possible for a better price increase in Bitcoin, but to reach a new ATH again I think it is also still uncertain because considering that the price of Bitcoin is still below $ 30K so Bitcoin needs more increases to reach a new ATH in next bull run. But I am also still optimistic that there is Bitcoin for this because there is a possibility of a much bigger increase in Bitcoin this year.

We are only a few thousand away from $30k which we could hit in a matter of days/weeks.

I think by the end of the year Bitcoin will be at least $40k and once we start to gain momentum going into 2024 won't take long for us to reach $50k and then from there pushing onto the all time high.

Yeah, $30k is possible within this month or at least next month April. And with all the negative things happening on the banking system, people are now into crypto specially bitcoin.

So I will not be surprised to see that at least at the end of the year, we can reach $50k. And that momentum will carry over till next year because that's when the bull run will start right after bitcoin halving. For now, let's just hope that nothing will happen in 2023, no black swan event that will cause the price to falter once more.

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Quote from: reagansimms on March 22, 2023, 04:35:19 AM

It's not a bad idea to keep 30% of the total 100% in Bitcoin. How about the other way around, 70% in Bitcoin and the rest in different Altcoins. Of course your portfolio will be very cool, imagine if on a bull you get more than 3x profit.

This is intended as asset diversification. If you only have one asset in your portfolio, it means that you will only consider one risk of profit fluctuation as well as one possible profit. Meanwhile, if you have two or three different assets in your portfolio, the risk of profit fluctuations can be minimized.

You can consider an asset diversification strategy to maintain profit stability and also minimize risk. That's fine of course, but only if you choose good assets in your portfolio. Apart from being able to minimize the risk of fluctuations in profit, you should also be aware that diversification can increase your losses if the main assets that dominate market capitalization experience dumps. You can see the correlation when bitcoin goes down, it definitely affects the altcoins. So choose altcoins to diversify assets wisely and consider your risks.

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It would be more lovely if you won't try to calculate it every year, just keep on holding it, the bigger returns will surely come to us someday.
We are not even sure if there is a bull run that will happen, so don't expect too much. It will still rely on how the demand will increase so in short, it will be up to us on how strong our hands will be at keeping all the Bitcoin that we have. As long as we can keep it at this kind of phase, many investors will be forced to buy at the same price and will not wait for a bear market anymore, which means value increasing.

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Quote from: fadhilz123 on March 22, 2023, 06:51:16 AM

Quote from: Epaper on March 21, 2023, 11:57:47 AM

Of course the hope of many people in Bullrun will have great returns. However, it is very difficult to predict how much return on the next Bullrun. But, I am sure that when the next Bitcoin Halving the price of Bitcoin will again set a new ATH record. So holding Bitcoin until Halving occurs is a good step to get big profits.

The next halving is indeed possible for a better price increase in Bitcoin, but to reach a new ATH again I think it is also still uncertain because considering that the price of Bitcoin is still below $ 30K so Bitcoin needs more increases to reach a new ATH in next bull run. But I am also still optimistic that there is Bitcoin for this because there is a possibility of a much bigger increase in Bitcoin this year.

We are only a few thousand away from $30k which we could hit in a matter of days/weeks.

I think by the end of the year Bitcoin will be at least $40k and once we start to gain momentum going into 2024 won't take long for us to reach $50k and then from there pushing onto the all time high.

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Quote from: Epaper on March 21, 2023, 11:57:47 AM

Of course the hope of many people in Bullrun will have great returns. However, it is very difficult to predict how much return on the next Bullrun. But, I am sure that when the next Bitcoin Halving the price of Bitcoin will again set a new ATH record. So holding Bitcoin until Halving occurs is a good step to get big profits.

The next halving is indeed possible for a better price increase in Bitcoin, but to reach a new ATH again I think it is also still uncertain because considering that the price of Bitcoin is still below $ 30K so Bitcoin needs more increases to reach a new ATH in next bull run. But I am also still optimistic that there is Bitcoin for this because there is a possibility of a much bigger increase in Bitcoin this year.

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Quote from: reagansimms on March 22, 2023, 04:35:19 AM

It's not a bad idea to keep 30% of the total 100% in Bitcoin. How about the other way around, 70% in Bitcoin and the rest in different Altcoins. Of course your portfolio will be very cool, imagine if on a bull you get more than 3x profit.
You have to hold all the assets in the portfolio until the price increases again. Fluctuating movements are always unpredictable, it takes mental strength and patience when the value of your investment goes down.
I don't expect much in the 2024/25 bull run, as long as my investment value increases, it will be enough for me.

I like 70% for bitcoin and 30% for altcoins, which ensures both the profit and safety of our investment. But I'm a bit skeptical when you say you don't expect too much of the upcoming bull run. We all invest in bitcoin, the cryptocurrency, simply because it can give us greater returns than any other traditional investment. We have taken a high risk when investing in bitcoin, so there is nothing wrong with expecting high returns. It's well worth it for what we trade, I still expect high returns but am not too delusional.

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Quote from: Bitcoin2009 on March 21, 2023, 10:52:13 AM

I'm sure if March can touch $30k then April can go up 2x or close to the ATH that happened at the end of 2021, of course all of these things can happen if there are no obstacles like what happened in 2022, namely the many scam cases including top exchanges FTX.

Bad news for the crypto space is the biggest barrier that will very clearly affect the price of Bitcoin and if in the next two months there is no bad news that can affect the movement of Bitcoin in the market then surely an increase in price to $ 30K is a possibility because there is not much panic that arises in people who already hold Bitcoin now and who will try to buy into holding it long-term.

Quote from: pantek talacuik on March 21, 2023, 09:34:05 PM

But it looks like obstacles will continue to appear as time goes by and no one can forbid that there will be very good price increases in the months to come. but what are you going to do with all of this because profits or losses will always haunt you.

Those who are used to profit or loss will never be afraid of any market conditions as long as they still really believe in Bitcoin and will never pay attention to obstacles that will occur because there have been many examples in the past where when there were obstacles in the market, Bitcoin was still able to overcome them. increases after certain constraints are resolved properly.

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It's not a bad idea to keep 30% of the total 100% in Bitcoin. How about the other way around, 70% in Bitcoin and the rest in different Altcoins. Of course your portfolio will be very cool, imagine if on a bull you get more than 3x profit.
You have to hold all the assets in the portfolio until the price increases again. Fluctuating movements are always unpredictable, it takes mental strength and patience when the value of your investment goes down.
I don't expect much in the 2024/25 bull run, as long as my investment value increases, it will be enough for me.

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Quote from: Bitcoin2009 on March 21, 2023, 10:52:13 AM

I'm sure if March can touch $30k then April can go up 2x or close to the ATH that happened at the end of 2021, of course all of these things can happen if there are no obstacles like what happened in 2022, namely the many scam cases including top exchanges FTX.

But it looks like obstacles will continue to appear as time goes by and no one can forbid that there will be very good price increases in the months to come. but what are you going to do with all of this because profits or losses will always haunt you.

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Quote from: Oceat on March 21, 2023, 02:32:29 PM

Quote from: Epaper on March 21, 2023, 11:57:47 AM

Of course the hope of many people in Bullrun will have great returns. However, it is very difficult to predict how much return on the next Bullrun. But, I am sure that when the next Bitcoin Halving the price of Bitcoin will again set a new ATH record. So holding Bitcoin until Halving occurs is a good step to get big profits.

After halving it won't automatically gonna pump the market yet, it depends on the trend or hype of the market that's why it will pump. Although, the market is unpredictable but you can make your speculation analysis based on the previous bull run. Bitcoin price will make a new ATH record that's for sure but the last bull run it took 1 year before Bitcoin reach a new ATH so the price might be changing in constant depending on the market condition.

People should do their own research if they want to make a huge profit during the bull run.

People do really get the wrong idea about halving on which they do really expect that there would be some immediate pump on the time it do happens without even trying to look back on what happened on

previous halving which it did really take some several months before the price starts to kick in.This is why we should really be anticipating that similar scenario on this upcoming halving,although we cant

really be sure on what it would looks like but its better to have that way rather than on minding about some immediate pump.This isnt how the market behaves or works because
it could pump without having any reason at all.

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Quote from: justdimin on March 21, 2023, 02:16:29 PM

Quote from: Nrcewker on March 21, 2023, 10:05:07 AM

In the next bull run, I am expecting Bitcoins to reach a new all time high price, so if we measure the price from the current price, then definitely it will be like almost 3x of the price. But as I said earlier, if we greed for more profits then definitely we gonna take any wrong step and for that reason we will make mistakes also, so don’t expect too much from the Bitcoins now. Observe the market and graph and invest accordingly. Set a lower withdrawal target and make a withdraw instantly when you reach that target.

I wouldn't really suggest the same thing but everyone has their own approach. I usually buy and hold as long as possible, I do not have a goal or a target because I believe that it should be going as high as possible and I wouldn't be really dealing with anything like that.

It is smart to do it this way because it allows people to have some sort of understanding that bitcoin goes up no matter what in the future. Of course people can think differently, I believe in this but I am not against anyone else having any other plans, if you want to put out a goal or a target price then you should do that, maybe yours is better and you could make more profit that way, I wouldn't know.

OP is just expecting 2x growth which he will be selling his BTC. It got to be bad if a short-term investor expects this gain but not got it. Maybe he needs the money fast unlike you who hold it for a long period of time.

Not everyone has the patience to wait long til the bull market. With the current situation where jobs are rare and there is inflation, I also keep my trading strategy going for there is a chance that I might be able to accumulate more. I think OP should just do the same if he ain't needing the money for something.

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Quote from: Epaper on March 21, 2023, 11:57:47 AM

Of course the hope of many people in Bullrun will have great returns. However, it is very difficult to predict how much return on the next Bullrun. But, I am sure that when the next Bitcoin Halving the price of Bitcoin will again set a new ATH record. So holding Bitcoin until Halving occurs is a good step to get big profits.

After halving it won't automatically gonna pump the market yet, it depends on the trend or hype of the market that's why it will pump. Although, the market is unpredictable but you can make your speculation analysis based on the previous bull run. Bitcoin price will make a new ATH record that's for sure but the last bull run it took 1 year before Bitcoin reach a new ATH so the price might be changing in constant depending on the market condition.

People should do their own research if they want to make a huge profit during the bull run.

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Quote from: Nrcewker on March 21, 2023, 10:05:07 AM

In the next bull run, I am expecting Bitcoins to reach a new all time high price, so if we measure the price from the current price, then definitely it will be like almost 3x of the price. But as I said earlier, if we greed for more profits then definitely we gonna take any wrong step and for that reason we will make mistakes also, so don’t expect too much from the Bitcoins now. Observe the market and graph and invest accordingly. Set a lower withdrawal target and make a withdraw instantly when you reach that target.

I wouldn't really suggest the same thing but everyone has their own approach. I usually buy and hold as long as possible, I do not have a goal or a target because I believe that it should be going as high as possible and I wouldn't be really dealing with anything like that.

It is smart to do it this way because it allows people to have some sort of understanding that bitcoin goes up no matter what in the future. Of course people can think differently, I believe in this but I am not against anyone else having any other plans, if you want to put out a goal or a target price then you should do that, maybe yours is better and you could make more profit that way, I wouldn't know.

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