Topic: How recognized are you in the bitcointalk world? - page 7. (Read 30337 times)

https://bpip.org/report.aspx?r=mostrecognized

Satoshi at 42 ? Surely most people would know who satoshi is.

I've just realized that I’m supposedly more recognized than Ver and Andersen, lol! I’ve got a Recognition Rank of 824.

Vod has done a great job and it is clear that the system favors members who are active now. It is up to him if he wants to make changes. Other people can set up another site with other parameters too, but any system is going to have some flaws.

Step 1 would be to not arbitrarily dismiss user merits that were earned through prior participation here. Step 2 would be for people to leave merit for historical contributions, and not just current posts. Also, I’m a bit shocked users like Gavin Andresen have a 0 trust rating. In his particular case, satoshi trusted him to lead development on the Bitcoin client but he’s regarded as not trustworthy enough to accept PayPal from? He was a major influence here whose first project when he discovered Bitcoin was to create a faucet to give it away. Users like him personally inspired me, so I think Step 3 would be finding and leaving trust for these users that they clearly earned prior to the trust system being implemented. Many probably don’t realize there was a period of years before the trust system was implemented. I used to have a thread with dozens of quotes complimenting my efforts and listing successful trades that I would refer users to back then. All who were active back then didn’t have the same opportunities to build long-term user stats that are available to users today. Penalizing them further with new scoring methods that reduce their early contributions seems backwards to me.

So that’s off the top of my head 3 proposals for Vod and the community to work together on legitimizing and improving this type of rating system.

'Bad forum'.
'Nice compilation.'
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?? xd A Nice compilation of a bad forum users.

Please... xd  what are you trying to say by that?

If it's so bad then what are you doing here?
Do something! Change something!

Everyone has a chance!

How do you propose users should be ranked then? I agree with your points, but it's easy to make complaints and harder to find solutions. Aside from creating some sort of centralized list, I don't think there's a statistic based way to approach this. Perhaps those with earlier registration dates could gain some recognition points, but other issues would arise from that.

Might be you are right, because few days back I have same activity and same trust and I am not in the list. I guess I got some 20 merits and I make it to this list. so this list is considering merit seriously.



Contribution to forum activities is not equivalent to the contribution the bitcoin development. So new user that you see highly ranked just mean they are contributing in forum well being or making other people aware of bitcoin or putting some good discussion or helping to catch the scammers and shitposters.

So whatever the rank Vod's site shows, it is just  parameter of taking part in forum discussions and recognized in this forum.(Nothing to do with your recognition in BTC world).

PS: I do know about Gavin and Roger Ver .

Excluding the merit that theymos gave to users for their previous contributions and scewing the results in favor of newer or lower ranked members and merit abusers. I’m well aware as we’ve discussed this privately. It’s your site though and if you want to reward merit abusers and penalize the early folks that established Bitcoin, that is 100% up to you. I was just explaining why The Pharmacist was self admittedly rated way higher than deserved.


EDIT: I should say that I am not calling The Pharmacist a merit abuser.  Users who have legitimately obtained a substantial amount of merit are also benefactors of the ignoring of merit earned from prior forum participation.

The reason this matters is that users who were instrumental to Bitcoin like early developers and people who have been shunned from the community as it evolved are penalized by the way Recognition Rank is scored.  Vod's argument is that newer users here don't recognize the early names.  I don't believe this to be true. Roger Ver has a Recognition Rank of >1000 & Gavin Andresen has a Recognition Rank of 865, while abhiseshakana has a Recognition Rank of 333.  Which names do you recognize?  What would the ranks be if the original merit were included in the algorithm?

Thanks, I understand that about the trust system in general.

I meant I wasn't sure how it was rated with BPIP, whther it was only green trust from DT2 and DT1 that was considered or all feedback.


You may be to close to see it, but with being a DT member and very active in some sections you fit the category of recognizable on the forum.

OG, the site doesn't rank you based on how many merit you have, but how many you have compared to others. 

If merit is easy to get, it would be easy to get for everyone.

The list is heavily weighted to make merit much more valuable than it is and not give credit to contributions made prior to the merit system's introduction.  That's why you see relatively new members without meaningful contributions but tons of merit ranked so highly (not directed at you), while users with household names like Gavin Andresen who have been influential in the community since before any of us heard of Bitcoin are considered unrecognizable per their rank.  No system is perfect and I'm sure there will be adjustments down the line as Vod's site is still very new and he has been actively developing it.

I have my trust setting to level 4. So you have a green rating of 9 in my book. 

I've said this before:  We judge ourselves by our intentions but judge others by their actions.  You might very well be a great guy who would never scam anyone, but if you haven't demonstrated that here (especially to a DT member if it's green trust you seek), you're not going to be recognized as a trusted person.

I don't know what you've done on the forum, but the last feedback you got was a neg for shitposting.  If you're not doing deals with people and/or not busting scammers, you won't be rewarded with green trust.  Also, people tend to look very suspiciously at members here who state that they're looking to gain trust.  Doesn't mean you're a scammer, but it makes people question your intentions.

And dang, now I'm #40 on the bpip list.  I soooo don't deserve to be ranked that high.  There has got to be a flaw in Vod's algorithm or something.  I can barely recognize who I am sometimes, so I'm fairly sure I shouldn't be that recognized as a member of bitcointalk.

Depends on the individual's trust settings that are viewing the rating and who they've included in their trust network.  By default, any trust left by DT1 or members they've added to DT2 is taken into account here.

It really comes down to having interactions on the forum where someone had to place trust in you or the way you would conduct yourself.Some people get positive trust from trades, some get it for actively fighting scams.

The trust that really affects things (due to visibility) comes from members of DT, otherwise it doesn't show up on your score for everyone else to see.

Not sure if all trust is taken into account here or just trust left by DT members.

actualy how do you gain TRUST ? i consider myself to be trustful, (like not scamming or any crazy things.....) but how to gain it in the forum?
cause from day one its just 0-0 with me......

and i do like some positive GREEN on my trust

Thanks!

I believe BPIP is a unique(ish) phrase that could eventually be more recognized than bittalk. 

Hey  , I noticed that the domain name registration bittalk.me ends 2018-11-05.
This may be useful to you for the next interesting idea related to the forum. 

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best regards

And you've gotten 27 merits in the past month.. some good mathematics going on here. 

Only 18 merits needed to move that many places, as long as the people between 267 and 325 did not get any merit.

Sound logic, indeed.. I did say I was tired not too long ago in this thread, don't confuse me. lol