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Topic: How risky it is having 2 accounts under the same household? - page 4. (Read 1157 times)

legendary
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If you already know that this is a risk... why? If you want avoid to get your account closed or your win is seized I would just not use 2 accounts.
Moreover, even if they can accept initially... they can refuse later.
For many many reason likewise: double bet on the same event (gamblers choose opposite way).
Bet timing (you place too many fast bets).
Definitely I would try to avoid or try to read and understand the whole ToS ...
sr. member
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Although this is risky, it is too much. I have seen husband and wife gambling on separate accounts. If in a family husband and wife gamble with separate accounts then think if other members of that family are busy with gambling but they use separate accounts for gambling. A casino may not have an account pre-condition that gamblers can use a maximum of one account. If a casino has instructions on how to use an account then I'd say it's best not to open multiple accounts at that casino. Because gambling companies do not want multiple accounts to be opened with the same IP, if we create multiple accounts without following their instructions, the account may be suspended.
legendary
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We’ve been seeing a lot of posts about multiple accounts using the same IP. When this happens, the casino will usually close the account, and worse, they might even confiscate the funds. As gamblers, we want to be honest and follow the TOS, but what if you’re living in a house where your family also loves to gamble and you all use the same site? Is it reasonable for the casino to close your account for multiple accounts, even though you didn’t actually create them, but because you share the same IP, that’s what they see?
The rule of the casino will always be the one to be followed, not your reasons why you sign up, We all know casinos are very strict in implementing their rules and they expect their players to abide by these terms and rules, so if you know this, you should be sure that no one in your household play in the same casino that does not allow double account, because it will likely result in jeopardizing your account.
We should be responsible players, abide by the rules, and make sure that we stay that way to have a good standing on the casino we're playing.
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We’ve been seeing a lot of posts about multiple accounts using the same IP. When this happens, the casino will usually close the account, and worse, they might even confiscate the funds. As gamblers, we want to be honest and follow the TOS, but what if you’re living in a house where your family also loves to gamble and you all use the same site? Is it reasonable for the casino to close your account for multiple accounts, even though you didn’t actually create them, but because you share the same IP, that’s what they see?

More accounts with the same IP and all of those accounts will be banned, sooner or later. And maybe, just maybe it would be better when more people play just under one account... you will level up faster, and with that more prizes will come your way. Of course, the tricky part would be to keep the peace... someone will always spend more money, how will you split the prizes, etc.

The bottom line is, that it is best to only have your own casino account and you are responsible for everything that happens there... whether you win or lose. If another member of the house wants to gamble, they should open an account at another casino or get their own internet line.

They cl;early state this on their policies so if they are going to look for issues to come accounts who constantly win, that's the time they are going to accuse the user with multiple accounts. Whether the household had different users using the platform or not, its just something they may not accept.

But chatting with the support now and tell them the situation, they may be able to do something on this. And avoid the sticky situation where your money can be frozen for a long time.
legendary
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We’ve been seeing a lot of posts about multiple accounts using the same IP. When this happens, the casino will usually close the account, and worse, they might even confiscate the funds. As gamblers, we want to be honest and follow the TOS, but what if you’re living in a house where your family also loves to gamble and you all use the same site? Is it reasonable for the casino to close your account for multiple accounts, even though you didn’t actually create them, but because you share the same IP, that’s what they see?

More accounts with the same IP and all of those accounts will be banned, sooner or later. And maybe, just maybe it would be better when more people play just under one account... you will level up faster, and with that more prizes will come your way. Of course, the tricky part would be to keep the peace... someone will always spend more money, how will you split the prizes, etc.

The bottom line is, that it is best to only have your own casino account and you are responsible for everything that happens there... whether you win or lose. If another member of the house wants to gamble, they should open an account at another casino or get their own internet line.
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We’ve been seeing a lot of posts about multiple accounts using the same IP. When this happens, the casino will usually close the account, and worse, they might even confiscate the funds. As gamblers, we want to be honest and follow the TOS, but what if you’re living in a house where your family also loves to gamble and you all use the same site? Is it reasonable for the casino to close your account for multiple accounts, even though you didn’t actually create them, but because you share the same IP, that’s what they see?

To avoid having problems with the casino, I use a landline internet connection at home and I don't access the casino via my cell phone. I also prohibit people in my house from using Stake. They can use local gambling sites, which can deposit with fiat from my country. This way, I minimize the risk of problems with the TOS of crypto casinos. I confess that the biggest headache is when I think about traveling, because I fear that in the place where I'm going to stay there will be people who play via phone, so I don't travel. We always have to respect the TOS of the casinos.
If you read the gambling site's ToS carefully, you will find answers to all your questions there.  If you talk about stake it is very user friendly and you can gamble very smoothly here even using vpn.  I don't have experience using many sites but all the ones I used were VPN friendly.  So using my cell phone network or broadband connection was not a problem for me.  op is asking if multiple accounts can be used in a household.  In that case I would say it is possible if he doesn't do KYC verification.  Because all platforms accept only one KYC with the same person's document.  However, by doing KYC verification using documents of multiple family members, he can use multiple accounts
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We’ve been seeing a lot of posts about multiple accounts using the same IP. When this happens, the casino will usually close the account, and worse, they might even confiscate the funds. As gamblers, we want to be honest and follow the TOS, but what if you’re living in a house where your family also loves to gamble and you all use the same site? Is it reasonable for the casino to close your account for multiple accounts, even though you didn’t actually create them, but because you share the same IP, that’s what they see?
This is why we are always advised as gamblers to always be sure we are very much enlightened and understand what the T&C of every casino is so as to get us to be able to stay safe gambling and not having our funds confiscated dues to violation of the T&C of the casinos, I. Know most casinos do not permit one to operate two accounts with them, they do state it and sometimes they say if you must open a new one then make sure to get the old one blocked and not to keep them both working, you get affected most when you have won good amount and want to withdraw it.
legendary
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We’ve been seeing a lot of posts about multiple accounts using the same IP. When this happens, the casino will usually close the account, and worse, they might even confiscate the funds. As gamblers, we want to be honest and follow the TOS, but what if you’re living in a house where your family also loves to gamble and you all use the same site? Is it reasonable for the casino to close your account for multiple accounts, even though you didn’t actually create them, but because you share the same IP, that’s what they see?

To avoid having problems with the casino, I use a landline internet connection at home and I don't access the casino via my cell phone. I also prohibit people in my house from using Stake. They can use local gambling sites, which can deposit with fiat from my country. This way, I minimize the risk of problems with the TOS of crypto casinos. I confess that the biggest headache is when I think about traveling, because I fear that in the place where I'm going to stay there will be people who play via phone, so I don't travel. We always have to respect the TOS of the casinos.
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Their terms clearly says that one account per household IP so no matter if it's different person still it's not allowed and if you do they have every right to take it down. So the best solution is if you have more than one person and want to access gambling service then better pick either one not the same casino because there are tons of crypto casinos out there now so it's not like a problem that you can find a specific kind of gambling event in a platform.
Sadly, most gambling platforms has that term of one account per household no matter how many individuals it will be. This condition is set to avoid abusing the platform bonuses and promotion as each individual member may limit their betting amount to maximize each accounts bonuses.
However, there's also a lot of online casino out there that allows this especially those that are already KYC verified so it's best to contact support having an account to an online casino where one of your family member gambles on.
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Does the casino only take into account IP, or do they also look at whether one or different devices are used? Maybe when several people play in one family, this is rare, and I don’t think it can be prohibited. In places with public Wi-Fi, this can also happen. Maybe this will matter when the casino suspects the player of some violations of the rules, or it may concern some special offers, but for a regular game in a casino, I don’t think it is unacceptable.

Pretty sure it's possible to differentiate between public IPs and private IPs. Plus even if it wasn't, pattern recognition should've been implemented by the casinos. Similar devices + similar IPs plus similar locations should be more than enough proof if they really wanted to label someone as having multiple accounts. As for devices, I think it's a case-by-case scenario? I have seen some complaints for both sides though so yeah, it's pretty much decided by the casino themselves.

Again, ultimately up to the casino. Hence why it's better to ask them instead.
legendary
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Is it reasonable for the casino to close your account for multiple accounts, even though you didn’t actually create them, but because you share the same IP, that’s what they see?
As far as I know, online gambling sites have several ways to detect multiple accounts and accounts that commit IP fraud, one of which is, but it's not just one piece of evidence that they take action against users to declare multiple accounts, in Payment Analysis, monitoring of account activity, Document verification is also strong evidence for online casinos to punish users who gamble in one place.

In my understanding, two different people in one house and using different devices/Androids to register on one online gambling site, I don't think it's a problem, This is often done and my friend's brother and sister do it, in fact until now both of them are safe without any problems on the same site.

The point is, don't make one-way transactions with people from the same house, for example: transactions sending funds using your sister's and brother's account addresses, that's an example, while they're done with different devices and different people, I don't think it's a risk. IP does not show the user's name and address (home address), IP only shows the location, many people nowadays gamble using WI-FI in the same location, it doesn't matter to them.
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Their terms clearly says that one account per household IP so no matter if it's different person still it's not allowed and if you do they have every right to take it down. So the best solution is if you have more than one person and want to access gambling service then better pick either one not the same casino because there are tons of crypto casinos out there now so it's not like a problem that you can find a specific kind of gambling event in a platform.
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We’ve been seeing a lot of posts about multiple accounts using the same IP. When this happens, the casino will usually close the account, and worse, they might even confiscate the funds. As gamblers, we want to be honest and follow the TOS, but what if you’re living in a house where your family also loves to gamble and you all use the same site? Is it reasonable for the casino to close your account for multiple accounts, even though you didn’t actually create them, but because you share the same IP, that’s what they see?
Does the casino only take into account IP, or do they also look at whether one or different devices are used? Maybe when several people play in one family, this is rare, and I don’t think it can be prohibited. In places with public Wi-Fi, this can also happen. Maybe this will matter when the casino suspects the player of some violations of the rules, or it may concern some special offers, but for a regular game in a casino, I don’t think it is unacceptable.
legendary
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We’ve been seeing a lot of posts about multiple accounts using the same IP. When this happens, the casino will usually close the account, and worse, they might even confiscate the funds. As gamblers, we want to be honest and follow the TOS, but what if you’re living in a house where your family also loves to gamble and you all use the same site? Is it reasonable for the casino to close your account for multiple accounts, even though you didn’t actually create them, but because you share the same IP, that’s what they see?
Casinos certainly cannot accept such reasons because they will stick to the rules they have set and casinos will certainly think that all players are basically the same, namely wanting to take advantage of the casino so there is no tolerance for such reasons.

You can see how one of the casinos that is quite old, big but is currently having problems closes a lot of accounts that are connected to each other and when their users complain the reason is always the same that it is their family members, maybe that is true but you can imagine if the casino accepts that reason then the casino must also apply the same thing to dishonest players, and the casino loses because of this, and as I recall the casino would look at other patterns besides the IP address before closing the account.
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If it is one individual managing those accounts, I think many casinos forbids that. So you should carefully read the TOS of the casino before making such attempts.

On the other hand, if it two people in the same household, it depends on a lot of factor such as:
  • If they have different names and different documents for KYC, if yes then below point will be considered
  • If they share same WiFi and by extention same IP address, if yes, then it is not safe. Casinos treats same IP address as multiple accounts so to avoid problems, using the same casinos for two people that share internet should be avoided.

If any of the above is not applicable, then I do not see any problem with two people from the same household using the same casinos.
Okay, multi-accounting is listed on their TOS, and even if it doesn't directly mention that you should only use one account per household, it still falls into the category of multi-accounting. However, provided that it's two siblings living under the same roof, why is it such an issue to have two separate accounts? How else could they access the platform? They'd have to use a different casino. It's something that can easily be validated by simply asking them to verify their documents, provided that it's two different individuals and not one, using two accounts simultaneously. 
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Better to ask live support if it is allowed to use the same IP with different devices?
I agree that it's better if OP asks to the support if it's okay to use the same IP address with various devices.

If allowed and asked for double verification, I haven't heard of that case that's been done to users. But it's likely that they will not give permission to this.

Well, I would think of it that it's better to avoid if the support answers NO.
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We’ve been seeing a lot of posts about multiple accounts using the same IP. When this happens, the casino will usually close the account, and worse, they might even confiscate the funds. As gamblers, we want to be honest and follow the TOS, but what if you’re living in a house where your family also loves to gamble and you all use the same site? Is it reasonable for the casino to close your account for multiple accounts, even though you didn’t actually create them, but because you share the same IP, that’s what they see?
Why would you consider using multiple accounts when you can gamble well enough with just one account?  If you create multiple accounts to enjoy any bonus then it is definitely a crime as you are breaking their rules but you can do it if you get information from their ToS that they allow multiple accounts. then they will never ban your account at that time. Not all casino sites allow multiple accounts so you should read the ToS carefully first to get the information yourself.
You didn’t get what the OP was explaining. There was no intention of abusing the casino or any bonus system you’re referring to. It’s about living in the same household where multiple family members gamble and share the same IP. If you think about it, there’s no intent to cheat, but technically, it looks like cheating from the casino’s perspective because the logs would show different devices using the same IP.
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We’ve been seeing a lot of posts about multiple accounts using the same IP. When this happens, the casino will usually close the account, and worse, they might even confiscate the funds. As gamblers, we want to be honest and follow the TOS, but what if you’re living in a house where your family also loves to gamble and you all use the same site? Is it reasonable for the casino to close your account for multiple accounts, even though you didn’t actually create them, but because you share the same IP, that’s what they see?
Why would you consider using multiple accounts when you can gamble well enough with just one account?  If you create multiple accounts to enjoy any bonus then it is definitely a crime as you are breaking their rules but you can do it if you get information from their ToS that they allow multiple accounts. then they will never ban your account at that time. Not all casino sites allow multiple accounts so you should read the ToS carefully first to get the information yourself.
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What are the chances of this happening  Roll Eyes like honestly we all know by now that even if two people from the same household gambled from the same WiFi, IP addresses that are assigned to the devices will kind of change..if one is ending with a suffic of say .xx1 then the next device will have .xx2 , ...

That's not how it works. IP addresses are assigned dynamically, by your router or some other device via the Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol (DHCP) server. But those IP addresses are valid only for your local network, whether devices connected via Wi-Fi or LAN cable. From the Internet side, all devices connected to the same network appear as a single IP address to the outside world. So if you access the gambling site from more than one device on the same local network, the site will likely see you as coming from the same IP address. However, it's possible that the site uses other tracking methods, such as cookies or device fingerprinting, to identify individual users.

Anyway, that's the gist of it. The sites you visit cant automatically distinguish different devices by IP alone if you're all connected to the same router.  There's other methods they can try, but IP addresses themselves don't differentiate in that situation.
legendary
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We’ve been seeing a lot of posts about multiple accounts using the same IP. When this happens, the casino will usually close the account, and worse, they might even confiscate the funds. As gamblers, we want to be honest and follow the TOS, but what if you’re living in a house where your family also loves to gamble and you all use the same site? Is it reasonable for the casino to close your account for multiple accounts, even though you didn’t actually create them, but because you share the same IP, that’s what they see?
If it is one individual managing those accounts, I think many casinos forbids that. So you should carefully read the TOS of the casino before making such attempts.

On the other hand, if it two people in the same household, it depends on a lot of factor such as:
  • If they have different names and different documents for KYC, if yes then below point will be considered
  • If they share same WiFi and by extention same IP address, if yes, then it is not safe. Casinos treats same IP address as multiple accounts so to avoid problems, using the same casinos for two people that share internet should be avoided.

If any of the above is not applicable, then I do not see any problem with two people from the same household using the same casinos.

For sure they might be consider but for how long? For sure this scenario will be used against them especially if they win profit. The multiple account reason might provably use to invalidate their winnings.

Its easy to provide those documents especially on critical times when there account has been flagged since for sure the casino won't accept those documents and they would tell that compromised user is telling a lie.

So to avoid committing mistake reading their rules is important also they should ask for the support clearance towards this and make them informed that you and one member of your family have account in their casino. If they say its not allowed then don't continue. But if they say its fine and they just need to submit KYC then everything is good since they receive a word came from their support.
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