How Satoshi Nakamoto Fooled the World - page 27.

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Quote from: rodskee on April 05, 2022, 09:32:48 PM

Quote from: Snowshow on April 04, 2022, 02:33:47 PM

Quote from: Snowshow on March 30, 2022, 02:09:43 AM

Ok, this discussion is getting nowhere. For that reason I decided to make a video for you guys. I will call it: "Bitcoin is a myth and not real." I will explain everything there. The video I attached in the OP is somehow misleading. When I created it I was thinking that bitcoin is a some kind of message. But throughout the discussion in this topic I realized that bitcoin actually doesn't exist. We can say that I was also the victim of this widespread false narrative on bitcoin's existence. So I will delete that video and make a new one. Probably over the weekend. Stay tuned.

Like promised, here's the video: https://youtu.be/jcraRM6vblQ

since the discussion is getting nowhere then you may consider closing the thread instead? because it seems that majority does not even care of your effort to bring Bitcoin down and even no care of what is that video made for

Quote from: SmallDoggy on April 04, 2022, 04:16:16 PM

I dunno man, you're not convincing me. If it's a myth, then it's a myth that's worth 880 billion dollars. The fact that it is something that can be used, or useful... means it DOES exist.

perhaps OP has intention that we can call Myth Grin

because no matter what he says , this is Bitcointalk.org forum in which majority is a Bitcoin supporters .

It's impossible to bring down or support something that's not real. It's possible only to suggest people not to behave irrationally by giving away their property just because a system of an anonymous guy is changing numbers next to their virtual address.

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Quote from: Snowshow on April 04, 2022, 02:33:47 PM

Quote from: Snowshow on March 30, 2022, 02:09:43 AM

Ok, this discussion is getting nowhere. For that reason I decided to make a video for you guys. I will call it: "Bitcoin is a myth and not real." I will explain everything there. The video I attached in the OP is somehow misleading. When I created it I was thinking that bitcoin is a some kind of message. But throughout the discussion in this topic I realized that bitcoin actually doesn't exist. We can say that I was also the victim of this widespread false narrative on bitcoin's existence. So I will delete that video and make a new one. Probably over the weekend. Stay tuned.

Like promised, here's the video: https://youtu.be/jcraRM6vblQ

since the discussion is getting nowhere then you may consider closing the thread instead? because it seems that majority does not even care of your effort to bring Bitcoin down and even no care of what is that video made for

Quote from: SmallDoggy on April 04, 2022, 04:16:16 PM

I dunno man, you're not convincing me. If it's a myth, then it's a myth that's worth 880 billion dollars. The fact that it is something that can be used, or useful... means it DOES exist.

perhaps OP has intention that we can call Myth Grin

because no matter what he says , this is Bitcointalk.org forum in which majority is a Bitcoin supporters .

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what religious crime group started the federal reserve ?

What religion is the lead developer of bitcoin right now?

What religion calls it self chosen and whos religious texts advocate crime and pedophillia?

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Quote from: SmallDoggy on April 04, 2022, 04:16:16 PM

I dunno man, you're not convincing me. If it's a myth, then it's a myth that's worth 880 billion dollars. The fact that it is something that can be used, or useful... means it DOES exist.

Nothing is worth 880 billion. All you got is multiplying two values. The first is the dollar amount currently paid for a number next to an address to be increased by 1. And the second is a sum of numbers next to existing addresses. It's all just operation with numbers. No coins, bit-coins, assets, or whatever real exists in this scheme. It's funny how people still believe mythology even when they see with their own eyes what is reality.

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I dunno man, you're not convincing me. If it's a myth, then it's a myth that's worth 880 billion dollars. The fact that it is something that can be used, or useful... means it DOES exist.

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Quote from: Snowshow on March 30, 2022, 02:09:43 AM

Ok, this discussion is getting nowhere. For that reason I decided to make a video for you guys. I will call it: "Bitcoin is a myth and not real." I will explain everything there. The video I attached in the OP is somehow misleading. When I created it I was thinking that bitcoin is a some kind of message. But throughout the discussion in this topic I realized that bitcoin actually doesn't exist. We can say that I was also the victim of this widespread false narrative on bitcoin's existence. So I will delete that video and make a new one. Probably over the weekend. Stay tuned.

Like promised, here's the video: https://youtu.be/jcraRM6vblQ

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Quote from: Snowshow on March 30, 2022, 06:51:14 AM

Quote from: Western_Boris on March 30, 2022, 06:35:56 AM

Quote from: Snowshow on March 30, 2022, 05:06:16 AM

That's like in ponzi schemes. You cannot afect people by saying that no business exists behind the scheme, because people are driven by greed when they see others are making money from the scheme. When the scheme ends only then people realize that the business didn't exist. The same will happen in the Satoshi's scheme. When the scheme ends people will realize that bitcoin didn't exist.

Oh, now you are moving goal posts. First it does not exist at all. Then when you have been told it exists as a digital money and it has open source code where you can examine by your own eyes that how it operates and by what rules it operates, you decided that it has no value at all.
And now that you have noticed that it does have a value to other people even if you don't value at all, you decide it is a ponzi scheme. Grin

You're funny man. You just can't stand it that whatever you say or do, Bitcoin will keep running in the internet. And people keep using it as their investment, daily currency and a savings account.
You need a therapist to help you. Because you will only get more and more angry and bitter while Bitcoin grows, gets used more, userbase grows and the price of Bitcoin grows. Help yourself and go see therapist.

It seems that you have a problem of seeing things that don't exist in reality. I never said things that you put into my mouth. I sad that bitcoin doesn't exist in the Satoshi's scheme the same as a business doesn't exist in ponzi schemes. So you're either incapable of reading or comprehending a simple argument from analogy. Whatever is the case you have a problem of seeing things that don't actually exist. It is no wonder then that you're a fanatical bitcoin believer. All fanatics have problems with reality.

If that ain't the pot calling the kettle black, I don't know what is.

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Quote from: Snowshow on March 30, 2022, 11:55:27 AM

Now you're repeating the same delusions and proving me right again. Keep doing it.

Ok.
Yeah, keep telling yourself that one trillion dollar currency does not exists, 100 million users are delusional, thousands of companies are accepting payments in currency that does not exist and stock exchanges have ETF's on their lists that do not exist at all. Grin

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Quote from: Western_Boris on March 30, 2022, 09:56:16 AM

Quote from: Snowshow on March 30, 2022, 08:03:40 AM

I am telling nothing to myself. I am telling you, that you have a problem of seeing things that don't exist in reality. With this response you proved once again I am right. You again saw things I have never written. Try to find some help. You're not capable of discussing rationally.

Yeah, keep telling yourself that one trillion dollar currency does not exists, 100 million users are delusional, thousands of companies are accepting payments in currency that does not exist and stock exchanges have ETF's on their lists that do not exist at all. Cheesy

Now you're repeating the same delusions and proving me right again. Keep doing it.

But I will respond, for onlookers. "One trillion dollar currency" does not exist in the Satoshi's system. Instead, there's a mathematical operation of multiplying the sum of numbers next to address with the dollar amount paid for swapping the number 1 between the addresses.

A currency is something that exists, for example, liabilities in the banking system. And shares in these liabilities are indeed measured in trillions.

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Quote from: Snowshow on March 30, 2022, 08:03:40 AM

I am telling nothing to myself. I am telling you, that you have a problem of seeing things that don't exist in reality. With this response you proved once again I am right. You again saw things I have never written. Try to find some help. You're not capable of discussing rationally.

Yeah, keep telling yourself that one trillion dollar currency does not exists, 100 million users are delusional, thousands of companies are accepting payments in currency that does not exist and stock exchanges have ETF's on their lists that do not exist at all. Cheesy

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Quote from: Western_Boris on March 30, 2022, 07:27:38 AM

Quote from: Snowshow on March 30, 2022, 06:51:14 AM

Quote from: Western_Boris on March 30, 2022, 06:35:56 AM

Quote from: Snowshow on March 30, 2022, 05:06:16 AM

That's like in ponzi schemes. You cannot afect people by saying that no business exists behind the scheme, because people are driven by greed when they see others are making money from the scheme. When the scheme ends only then people realize that the business didn't exist. The same will happen in the Satoshi's scheme. When the scheme ends people will realize that bitcoin didn't exist.

Oh, now you are moving goal posts. First it does not exist at all. Then when you have been told it exists as a digital money and it has open source code where you can examine by your own eyes that how it operates and by what rules it operates, you decided that it has no value at all.
And now that you have noticed that it does have a value to other people even if you don't value at all, you decide it is a ponzi scheme. Grin

You're funny man. You just can't stand it that whatever you say or do, Bitcoin will keep running in the internet. And people keep using it as their investment, daily currency and a savings account.
You need a therapist to help you. Because you will only get more and more angry and bitter while Bitcoin grows, gets used more, userbase grows and the price of Bitcoin grows. Help yourself and go see therapist.

It seems that you have a problem of seeing things that don't exist in reality. I never said things that you put into my mouth. I sad that bitcoin doesn't exist in the Satoshi's scheme the same as a business doesn't exist in ponzi schemes. So you're either incapable of reading or comprehending a simple argument from analogy. Whatever is the case you have a problem of seeing things that don't actually exist. It is no wonder then that you're a fanatical bitcoin believer. All fanatics have problems with reality.

Yeah, keep telling yourself that one trillion dollar currency does not exists, 100 million users are delusional, thousands of companies are accepting payments in currency that does not exist and stock exchanges have ETF's on their lists that do not exist at all. Cheesy

I am telling nothing to myself. I am telling you, that you have a problem of seeing things that don't exist in reality. With this response you proved once again I am right. You again saw things I have never written. Try to find some help. You're not capable of discussing rationally.

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Quote from: Snowshow on March 30, 2022, 06:51:14 AM

Quote from: Western_Boris on March 30, 2022, 06:35:56 AM

Quote from: Snowshow on March 30, 2022, 05:06:16 AM

That's like in ponzi schemes. You cannot afect people by saying that no business exists behind the scheme, because people are driven by greed when they see others are making money from the scheme. When the scheme ends only then people realize that the business didn't exist. The same will happen in the Satoshi's scheme. When the scheme ends people will realize that bitcoin didn't exist.

Oh, now you are moving goal posts. First it does not exist at all. Then when you have been told it exists as a digital money and it has open source code where you can examine by your own eyes that how it operates and by what rules it operates, you decided that it has no value at all.
And now that you have noticed that it does have a value to other people even if you don't value at all, you decide it is a ponzi scheme. Grin

You're funny man. You just can't stand it that whatever you say or do, Bitcoin will keep running in the internet. And people keep using it as their investment, daily currency and a savings account.
You need a therapist to help you. Because you will only get more and more angry and bitter while Bitcoin grows, gets used more, userbase grows and the price of Bitcoin grows. Help yourself and go see therapist.

It seems that you have a problem of seeing things that don't exist in reality. I never said things that you put into my mouth. I sad that bitcoin doesn't exist in the Satoshi's scheme the same as a business doesn't exist in ponzi schemes. So you're either incapable of reading or comprehending a simple argument from analogy. Whatever is the case you have a problem of seeing things that don't actually exist. It is no wonder then that you're a fanatical bitcoin believer. All fanatics have problems with reality.

Yeah, keep telling yourself that one trillion dollar currency does not exists, 100 million users are delusional, thousands of companies are accepting payments in currency that does not exist and stock exchanges have ETF's on their lists that do not exist at all. Cheesy

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Quote from: Western_Boris on March 30, 2022, 06:35:56 AM

Quote from: Snowshow on March 30, 2022, 05:06:16 AM

That's like in ponzi schemes. You cannot afect people by saying that no business exists behind the scheme, because people are driven by greed when they see others are making money from the scheme. When the scheme ends only then people realize that the business didn't exist. The same will happen in the Satoshi's scheme. When the scheme ends people will realize that bitcoin didn't exist.

Oh, now you are moving goal posts. First it does not exist at all. Then when you have been told it exists as a digital money and it has open source code where you can examine by your own eyes that how it operates and by what rules it operates, you decided that it has no value at all.
And now that you have noticed that it does have a value to other people even if you don't value at all, you decide it is a ponzi scheme. Grin

You're funny man. You just can't stand it that whatever you say or do, Bitcoin will keep running in the internet. And people keep using it as their investment, daily currency and a savings account.
You need a therapist to help you. Because you will only get more and more angry and bitter while Bitcoin grows, gets used more, userbase grows and the price of Bitcoin grows. Help yourself and go see therapist.

It seems that you have a problem of seeing things that don't exist in reality. I never said things that you put into my mouth. I sad that bitcoin doesn't exist in the Satoshi's scheme the same as a business doesn't exist in ponzi schemes. So you're either incapable of reading or comprehending a simple argument from analogy. Whatever is the case you have a problem of seeing things that don't actually exist. It is no wonder then that you're a fanatical bitcoin believer. All fanatics have problems with reality.

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Quote from: Snowshow on March 30, 2022, 05:06:16 AM

That's like in ponzi schemes. You cannot afect people by saying that no business exists behind the scheme, because people are driven by greed when they see others are making money from the scheme. When the scheme ends only then people realize that the business didn't exist. The same will happen in the Satoshi's scheme. When the scheme ends people will realize that bitcoin didn't exist.

Oh, now you are moving goal posts. First it does not exist at all. Then when you have been told it exists as a digital money and it has open source code where you can examine by your own eyes that how it operates and by what rules it operates, you decided that it has no value at all.
And now that you have noticed that it does have a value to other people even if you don't value at all, you decide it is a ponzi scheme. Grin

You're funny man. You just can't stand it that whatever you say or do, Bitcoin will keep running in the internet. And people keep using it as their investment, daily currency and a savings account.
You need a therapist to help you. Because you will only get more and more angry and bitter while Bitcoin grows, gets used more, userbase grows and the price of Bitcoin grows. Help yourself and go see therapist.

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Quote from: Western_Boris on March 30, 2022, 04:50:24 AM

Quote from: Snowshow on March 30, 2022, 04:43:36 AM

No, I am stating the fact that you have no digital money but digital number. But like I said. You're free to play games and fantasize that you have money, that is, something, while in reality all you have is a number that quantifies nothing. When the game ends, you'll realize what it means to have nothing.

Yes, in fact we will keep using this digital stuff as a currency. Because like I said, you can't prevent us and 100 million other users, a growing number of new users, from doing that. So happy wednesday to you my dude!
Glad to see that all you tried here could not affect anything.

That's like in ponzi schemes. You cannot afect people by saying that no business exists behind the scheme, because people are driven by greed when they see others are making money from the scheme. When the scheme ends only then people realize that the business didn't exist. The same will happen in the Satoshi's scheme. When the scheme ends people will realize that bitcoin didn't exist.

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Quote from: Snowshow on March 30, 2022, 04:43:36 AM

No, I am stating the fact that you have no digital money but digital number. But like I said. You're free to play games and fantasize that you have money, that is, something, while in reality all you have is a number that quantifies nothing. When the game ends, you'll realize what it means to have nothing.

Yes, in fact we will keep using this digital stuff as a currency. Because like I said, you can't prevent us and 100 million other users, a growing number of new users, from doing that. So happy wednesday to you my dude!
Glad to see that all you tried here could not affect anything.

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Quote from: Western_Boris on March 30, 2022, 04:23:44 AM

Quote from: Snowshow on March 30, 2022, 04:04:39 AM

Now you're just repeating the same false narrative that I already debunked throughout this discussion.

So you tried to decide that digital money has no value at all but could not, so we just continue to use it and accept it as a payment. Thanks.

No, I am stating the fact that you have no digital money but digital number. But like I said. You're free to play games and fantasize that you have money, that is, something, while in reality all you have is a number that quantifies nothing. When the game ends, you'll finally comprehend the meaning of the word "nothing".

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Quote from: Snowshow on March 30, 2022, 04:04:39 AM

Now you're just repeating the same false narrative that I already debunked throughout this discussion.

So you tried to decide that digital money has no value at all but could not, so we just continue to use it and accept it as a payment. Thanks.

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Quote from: Western_Boris on March 30, 2022, 03:55:35 AM

Quote from: Snowshow on March 30, 2022, 03:47:25 AM

Quote from: Western_Boris on March 30, 2022, 03:04:38 AM

Quote from: Snowshow on March 30, 2022, 02:50:02 AM

But hey, you're free to pay money because a system of an anonymous guy is performing math operations.

Yeah, I do like it that my money is based on math.

Well you can play semantics all you like, but you have no money. What you have is a number attached to your address, which resulted from math operations. The Satoshi's system is like calculator. It doesn't create money but numbers. But hey, you are free to play with a calculator and fantasize that you're creating money. Children do that all the time.

This digital money has verifiable rules how it operates and value as a part of transaction so I can't see how that is not money. You are still free to say that in your mind it's value is zero for you. But you are not able to decide how other people will value it.
Try it. Try to decide for me that I can't buy anything from this store A which accepts Bitcoin. Or try to decide for me that the Bitcoins I own has suddenly zero value.
Because every second I can see the current value the Bitcoin has in different currencies on the Bitcoin exchange websites.

Now you're just repeating the same false narrative that I already debunked throughout this discussion.

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Quote from: Snowshow on March 30, 2022, 03:47:25 AM

Quote from: Western_Boris on March 30, 2022, 03:04:38 AM

Quote from: Snowshow on March 30, 2022, 02:50:02 AM

But hey, you're free to pay money because a system of an anonymous guy is performing math operations.

Yeah, I do like it that my money is based on math.

Well you can play semantics all you like, but you have no money. What you have is a number attached to your address, which resulted from math operations. The Satoshi's system is like calculator. It doesn't create money but numbers. But hey, you are free to play with a calculator and fantasize that you're creating money. Children do that all the time.

This digital money has verifiable rules how it operates and value as a part of transaction so I can't see how that is not money. You are still free to say that in your mind it's value is zero for you. But you are not able to decide how other people will value it.
Try it. Try to decide for me that I can't buy anything from this store A which accepts Bitcoin. Or try to decide for me that the Bitcoins I own has suddenly zero value.
Because every second I can see the current value the Bitcoin has in different currencies on the Bitcoin exchange websites.

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