Topic: How to self exclude from anonymous gambling sites - page 21. (Read 6573 times)

Situations could be the same at times, but they could be different at times too, which is why it has to be differently viewed and investigated before the proffered solutions can be accurate. As good as that is, I like to say that whether you are not the one who noticed the issue or even the one willing to change, it is possible that you still change due to the advice and influence of others. We see cases like that very often, only that it is better and faster if it is the person affected such that is willing to change by himself. The Willpower is there in this case, and when the Willpower is there, the process is fast because the person would have passed through the stages of admittance and will be ready to give it a fight even without any external help or interference. This is not the case for the person who doesn't even know that something is wrong with him, while others would know but will not just care about it. That's why I said initially that cases are different, and for this, we treat them differently. Even what the guys said is cool enough, it could still work for some set of gamblers. But working for all gamblers is the issue.

You would really be able to find for yourself on which one would be working and which one could not but of course once we are on a situation on which we are really that not on the right mindset
on where we are partly that been addicted on gambling on which it would really be somewhat on stirred condition on which you would really be testing out a couple of methods.
There are various ways on how you would really be self excluding yourself on which it doesnt matter if it via means of staking or what, as long it do prohibits you on playing gambling then it counts.

When it comes on limitation and similar aspects then it would really be that totally just that different compared into those people who are really that
not having that good self control on which they are really that putting themselves at great trouble.

Yep, that's the right way to put it I guess. You cannot help an addict get out of the addiction as long as they are not willing to do that themselves and this is only possible if the addict acknowledges the fact that they are addicted and their addiction is causing problems and chaos for them and their life.

A Gambling addict will barely realize this thing themselves unless they have a family and they have at least a little bit of critical thinking left in them which might make them realize that the state of their home and the suffering of their family can only get better if they do something about the addiction. That is only how one can help a gambling addict get out of their addiction. If this isn't the case and the gambler has no realization whatsoever, it is not possible to push them out of the addiction.

I think that there is no only decision how to stop and how to help. I always say that there are no even two same situations and the way that was correct for one situation can`t help in the another.
But anyway i`m sure that the first thing we have to see is that the addict decided to stop gambling. It must be only his decision, not because someone`s asked him.

If you make it simple, the gamblers should stop thinking too much about the gambling returns and they should lower their gambling expectations, and this may help them overcome the urge to gamble all the time. Saving money while gambling sometimes seems more appropriate approach than thinking on how can you make money from gambling. If you are able to save your seed money while gambling, you have done a good job.


If anyone indulges in gambling addiction, the treatment of this won't be easy. Also if the gambler himself does not want to change his habits, the others may find it even more difficult to convince him that he is at fault and needs to be cured. If somehow he is denied access to the money, so this can help him reduce his exposure to gambling but still the question remains as to how we can do this sort of impossible task.

LOl this has been an issue for how many times now that self exclusions don't function that much and only brings more problem because self exclusion is not truly a gambling sites wanted as they need gamblers to continue playing and this feature is just to make their site clean looking but the reality ? lol who would love to let your depositors stop betting.

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But the question or main difference on here is that not all people would be having on the same mind when it comes on dealing up with things on which there are ones who do
have that good self control and there are ones who do really have that main problem on trying out to get rid of it., Its true that it is really that on our heads but there are
ones who do just simply tolerate it out and dont bother about the risks involved into it and they would rather just continue on the things that they are doing.
Its true that self exclusions doesnt mean a shit because you would really be just playing again once you do have the opportunity on doing so.

I can`t agree that gambling addiction is a physiological thing. It is only in the head. He need to understand that gambling gives nothing positive to him first of all. I can suppose that later he can even gamble without any problems with addiction.
I was smoking for 20 years and stopped it about 15 years ago. Today i can to smoke with my friends during the party but it is about 1-2 times a year. The problem was only in the head.

Most times,  the challenges with getting over addictions many is the replacement tool,  and even though the gambler already put everything in place,  he still need to be very proactive enough to learn how to rely on other things aside from gambling,  and just as some few comments already pointed out,  gambling addiction is a more of a physiological thing and at that,  the gambler will need to under a mental rehabilitation that will reshape his mental focus and being redirected to more productive things.

So for that,  we need to put all the focus on the addict's own willingness to quit and then give him all the support that he needs to survive in his fight against gambling addiction.

I sometimes understand the Peroans who Want to make a self-exclusion to protect themselves, and the truth is I see it as a measure of heroes, whoever or has that way of doing things and improving them so that they can be well, now if I go to see the things that can be generated due to this, because I could get even more peace of mind, I am not Going to say that it is completely complete, no, because for complete security much more is needed  but I can say that when it comes to to do things better it is good to do these things, it is better to Excuse yourself than to spend a lot of money, fall into Addiction and turn the life you lead into a Complete, I am not going to Say that it is the solution for everything, because the people who do This Clearly means that they will never have Control over themselves, and that is something very Serious , I think it is Serious because then later on any future they have in their life Will not be able to be Realized Except through other things that force them to give it up.

We are adult people who know what is good and what is good, we must realize that if we are doing an activity that will make us look bad later , we will not have the Ability to overcome it and that can do us great harm, not recommended , that all the time we dedicate ourselves to the fact that through bad times and due to the obligations of others we have to do something that is correct, I effectively call this as a Commitment to belonging and being strong people, because this does not give any type of effectiveness in life, what we do is limit ourselves, I Understand that when it is called or spoken of as autocnotorl, many can give their opinion, but I know that it is difficult to take autocnotrol due to the great things that can happen, but we must be clear. Because things are like that and they must be Fulfilled as such when we are Seeking to be Better people in Every sense , not only in the Casino but in life.

The self-exclusion feature/program is a very good and welcome development but it has a whole lot of limitations as it is poorly adhered to by the gambler and even the casinos for their selfish reasons. Needless to say that it is not all casinos that have such a feature on their platform. Maybe unless the person contacts them manually to let them know what he is facing with gambling and letting his intention known going forward. But I tell you that this doesn't work well even though it is a very good alternative but will so much depend on the gambler and the casino's dedication to it.

Will the gambler be ready to adhere to it and be strict with it for his own benefit? And will the casino avoid their selfish reason to make sure that such gambler is kicked out for a specific period of time? I've heard stories about this self-exclusion of a thing where the same gambler will cancel it and the casino will turn a blind eye. This is the world we live in, everyone wants to make money regardless of how it affects another. Also, some gamblers are the problem of themselves, and even if the casino had done its part, the gambler could use another person's details to continue gambling or gamble elsewhere. It is as bad as that.

Actually self exclusions would really be just that useless if you are really that addicted to gambling on which high chances that you would really be still playing out into other places.
This is why it would really be that important that you should really be solving out that kind of addiction first because you wont really be needing any exclusions if you are really just
that having that kind of control and moderation. If you are planning on having those kind of staking or locking your funds for you to be not able to play then
it would be somewhat useless, on which it would really be simple that you could play as long you do have the funds then high chances that you would really be playing again.

I`m just thinking about it for a long enough time, not with gamblers but the addicts. And i think that we can`t help them if they don`t try to help themselves. It is just a waste of resources without any result.

I don`t think that we can give them some money even with control until we see that they change their life. If they really try to change themselves - we can help, but even in such situation it must be not a gift, but a loan.

There is no point helping someone who did not ask for help in the first place, for  it is often said that a doctor does not force medication on a patient who does not want to be medicated or administered drugs on.

Helping someone is like we sacrificing something for their own good, and such sacrifices requires that we be appreciated atleast, so as to keep the motivation to continue to help high, and when we force such help on a person, there is every chance that such person will not return back to appreciate, Infact, they may even curse you for helping them, and if such happens, we have ourselves to blame and not them.
This is why I personally will not help someone who did not ask for my help.

Even God in heaven, knowing we need help, still say we should ask, through prayer  .

I managed to understand you and I think you are right at the same time. For those who are struggling with gambling-related issues and addictions, one can provide help for them but we should define the kind of help we provide so that it will not be as if we are encouraging them to gamble more even as they are not with their senses. This is especially true if we are not sensitive. Imagine, trying to help a gambling addict and you are providing the person with extra cash just because he tells you a story and you felt for him through pit. That is not a solution, you are only encouraging him because who knows what he would do with your money? I am sure that most of that money will end up in his gambling account too which makes it not a wise decision.

One may help them monetarily as a friend, but the same must ensure that they channel the money into what they need it for, and not on gambling. But the most important thing is to walk the person through on how to gamble responsibly, that's i the person still wants to continue. But to some, it is all about healing their mental state entirely away from gambling, which will be more important at first as they stay away from gambling at that time. But if they would want to gamble again, fine. That later time might now be with their better sense of maturity and awareness of the bad side of gambling, not the way they engaged the risky activity before. If at all, all that family and friends tried to do in this regard didn't work, an external help is advised here, which could include prayer if the case is severe.

correct , because no matter what you do but the person is still not ready to accept any help then we will go back from the beginning and will always lose the battle , because this issue is about the involved person how to trust the system , because it is not in our hands to decide but them so I agree on your point and I know that you understand the situation.

Well, treating an addicted gambler, how ever or what ever be the mindset of the person in question, how ever he or she tend to believe or react to things doesn't really matter, because treatment for addiction is always channelled towards the brain, addiction in gambling is something the brain learned to do without, so the treatment here is channelled towards the gambler psychology mentality and so on, it's all about trying to get the brain to learn to do some thing else more productive and not to depend totally on gambling in a way that if the it does drive the host to gamble, and the host doesn't, then it causes stress and lack of focus for the host - the host here is the body, the owner of the brain.

And also, on the other hand, addiction also means that the person have lost control over his or her own brain, note we are not supposed to allow our brain control us or what we do, we are supposed to be the ones to tell our brain what we want to do not our brain telling us what we should do, so, if one gets to that stage where he or she no longer can tell his or her brain "no, I don't wanna gamble now" and the brain accept it and be comfortable with it, it simply means that such person have lost control over his or her brains. - So in treating such person, it also involves teaching the gambler to take back control from his or her brain, and not to allow the brain to rule over him or her.

All this have little to nothing to do with how a person reacts to issues and so on.

I understand and don`t understand it the same time. I know that it is possible and can`t understand how it is possible.
But i think that it is true that their is self-esteem is low. And they need to begin doing something themselves - they can get their family support and i think that it must be enough for start. I don`t want to spend any resources(time, money, food - doesn`t matter) for someone, who just lose it. I can help when he show that he is ready to struggle, not else.

Those people who are going through this problem, because they need a lot of support, from what I have read, when they find themselves in that situation, the person whose self-esteem is low, they usually think of pure play and doing things so that they can establish themselves so that They have a better way to play, they look for or devise a way to get money to play in the casino, all the time they think that if they had had more money they would have won big, and all those things get into a person's head. addicted, therefore I can say that it is delicate, and for me something very delicate.

The treatment is sometimes not so simple, it depends a lot on the type of person, their personality, how they experience the problems, how they react to them, not everyone has the same reaction to problems and stress, some people. It gives them heart attacks, because they don't know how to handle themselves and that's how to channel it, it's difficult, and you have to treat it with great care and delicacy.