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I can`t agree that gambling addiction is a physiological thing. It is only in the head. He need to understand that gambling gives nothing positive to him first of all. I can suppose that later he can even gamble without any problems with addiction.
I was smoking for 20 years and stopped it about 15 years ago. Today i can to smoke with my friends during the party but it is about 1-2 times a year. The problem was only in the head.
If you relate it to physiological things, it actually not wrong because gambling addiction becomes like habit which makes person do it more often and regularly, but on the other hand, this would be more objective when calling it related to thoughts or feeling of wanting to continue doing the same thing in life in gambling.
And it is clear that gambling can never be equated with other things such as addiction to alcohol, drugs or smoking because those who are addicted to gambling will only have desires in the brain that lead us to do it.
Gambling addiction is not an attitude that can really be linked to several things, but it really affects person psychology, just look at how they are gambling addicts and drug addicts and others, the difference will definitely be more visible.
But on the other hand, it will be much more difficult for gambling addicts to solve their problems, so far every country will have rehabilitation facilities but not for gambling addicts and they only have problems with their thoughts, desires and beliefs.
As for me - the habit is something what you like to do and it doesn`t hurts people around you. The addiction is something what you like to do, that hurts people around you and yourself and you understand it but don`t stop.
And it doesn`t  matter what addiction it is. And i`m sure that all addictions is in your brain, except drugs probably. When i stopped smoking - i didn`t feel any negative changes in my feeling, i just changed my mind about it.
All depends on someones self control on which we know that this is something that would really be just that enough for you to completely stop even on mid-way on the time that you are playing.

It is really just that only a few could really be able to do such thing and the rest are really just that too impulsive and this is why they do really fail on stopping on the time that they've
seen that they are already that making themselves that wrecking or messing up their lives on which they should have done it earlier if we do speak about
stopping to avoid such spending.

When it comes to exclusion then you wont really be needing up these things if you are really just that mindful with your actions
then your mind would really be just that enough to tell you on what you should gonna basing up on the instincts in between
good and bad.
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To be honest, i don`t cares about addicts and don`t sure that i must care about gambling addicts. The only situation when i can spend some resources for addicts - is when i see that they ready to change their life. There are lots of people who need help and i prefer to help somebody, who need it but i don`t want to help any kind of addict who made his life awful by himself.
You should care about them bro, you should be your brother's keeper. Even if they didn't tell you, you can still ship in your advice and let them know if they are doing it excessively. It is not hurting to put anyone through, this is also applicable to those who are so difficult. You should only do your bit and leave the rest, and by that, you would have satisfied your conscience in this regard. Gambling is so addictive and if someone is such that is in dire need of money but is not finding it easy elsewhere, gambling is often their next way of trying, but in most cases, it always goes sore for them.

That is why I often preach that no one should be gambling for the whole mindset of money-making, it will never be productive in this case. This is also one way that causes addiction and irresponsible gambling, but if you can try to ship in your advice that will make them shift their focus towards this, I know their mindset will change and will be for the common good of the person and the society at large.
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Do the site is honest about their promise of self exclusion or this is just a marketing strategy because like a store owner ,
well some site might have been doing this or maybe all?
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why do you let your customer be banned in your store when you can just let them Buy and buy whatever they wanted?
exactly , they are business and every deposit is important to their business so why not have it while pretend that there is no problem.

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same principle in gambling addiction , those addict will do anything just to gamble and even if they locked their account for
sure they will look for another way and site to gamble so why not let them continue their gambling?

i am not here to be fooled actually ,because I am not turning into addicted forever lol.
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I can`t agree that gambling addiction is a physiological thing. It is only in the head. He need to understand that gambling gives nothing positive to him first of all. I can suppose that later he can even gamble without any problems with addiction.
I was smoking for 20 years and stopped it about 15 years ago. Today i can to smoke with my friends during the party but it is about 1-2 times a year. The problem was only in the head.
If you relate it to physiological things, it actually not wrong because gambling addiction becomes like habit which makes person do it more often and regularly, but on the other hand, this would be more objective when calling it related to thoughts or feeling of wanting to continue doing the same thing in life in gambling.
And it is clear that gambling can never be equated with other things such as addiction to alcohol, drugs or smoking because those who are addicted to gambling will only have desires in the brain that lead us to do it.
Gambling addiction is not an attitude that can really be linked to several things, but it really affects person psychology, just look at how they are gambling addicts and drug addicts and others, the difference will definitely be more visible.
But on the other hand, it will be much more difficult for gambling addicts to solve their problems, so far every country will have rehabilitation facilities but not for gambling addicts and they only have problems with their thoughts, desires and beliefs.
As for me - the habit is something what you like to do and it doesn`t hurts people around you. The addiction is something what you like to do, that hurts people around you and yourself and you understand it but don`t stop.
And it doesn`t  matter what addiction it is. And i`m sure that all addictions is in your brain, except drugs probably. When i stopped smoking - i didn`t feel any negative changes in my feeling, i just changed my mind about it.
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~snip~
I can`t agree that gambling addiction is a physiological thing. It is only in the head. He need to understand that gambling gives nothing positive to him first of all. I can suppose that later he can even gamble without any problems with addiction.
I was smoking for 20 years and stopped it about 15 years ago. Today i can to smoke with my friends during the party but it is about 1-2 times a year. The problem was only in the head.
If you relate it to physiological things, it actually not wrong because gambling addiction becomes like habit which makes person do it more often and regularly, but on the other hand, this would be more objective when calling it related to thoughts or feeling of wanting to continue doing the same thing in life in gambling.
And it is clear that gambling can never be equated with other things such as addiction to alcohol, drugs or smoking because those who are addicted to gambling will only have desires in the brain that lead us to do it.
Gambling addiction is not an attitude that can really be linked to several things, but it really affects person psychology, just look at how they are gambling addicts and drug addicts and others, the difference will definitely be more visible.
But on the other hand, it will be much more difficult for gambling addicts to solve their problems, so far every country will have rehabilitation facilities but not for gambling addicts and they only have problems with their thoughts, desires and beliefs.
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As for gambling addicts, you can't help them unless they wanted to be saved, many knew that they are addicted but they can't stop themselves, they don't know how to fight the addiction, I don't care about them because they won't care about me either on the long run, you will just waste your time, I will only help someone that needed a helping hand, they must be willing to fight the addiction too.  

Not all problems can be solved, not all addiction can be beaten, it depends entirely on the affected person, how determined they are is what will make them break free from the chains of addiction, you can't just say you want to beat addiction, you need actions and steps to take.
Of course, if the player himself does not understand that his addiction to gambling has ceased to be just a hobby and a fun pastime, but has turned into a gaming addiction at the stage of illness, then it becomes quite difficult to help such a player. 
First, we need to make sure that he himself realizes that addiction to gambling and specifically that for him it is already a disease that still needs to be treated in order to preserve a normal life.  And not only to himself, but also to other members of his family.  And that responsibility should be shown to other family members. 
It seems to me that this is exactly the most difficult thing in the very process of fighting such an addiction. 
If a player fully understands his disease - gambling addiction, then it becomes much easier to recover.
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As for gambling addicts, you can't help them unless they wanted to be saved, many knew that they are addicted but they can't stop themselves, they don't know how to fight the addiction, I don't care about them because they won't care about me either on the long run, you will just waste your time, I will only help someone that needed a helping hand, they must be willing to fight the addiction too.  

Not all problems can be solved, not all addiction can be beaten, it depends entirely on the affected person, how determined they are is what will make them break free from the chains of addiction, you can't just say you want to beat addiction, you need actions and steps to take.
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Do the site is honest about their promise of self exclusion or this is just a marketing strategy because like a store owner ,
why do you let your customer be banned in your store when you can just let them Buy and buy whatever they wanted?
same principle in gambling addiction , those addict will do anything just to gamble and even if they locked their account for
sure they will look for another way and site to gamble so why not let them continue their gambling?
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I think that there is no only decision how to stop and how to help. I always say that there are no even two same situations and the way that was correct for one situation can`t help in the another.
But anyway i`m sure that the first thing we have to see is that the addict decided to stop gambling. It must be only his decision, not because someone`s asked him.
You would really be able to find for yourself on which one would be working and which one could not but of course once we are on a situation on which we are really that not on the right mindset
on where we are partly that been addicted on gambling on which it would really be somewhat on stirred condition on which you would really be testing out a couple of methods.
There are various ways on how you would really be self excluding yourself on which it doesnt matter if it via means of staking or what, as long it do prohibits you on playing gambling then it counts.

When it comes on limitation and similar aspects then it would really be that totally just that different compared into those people who are really that
not having that good self control on which they are really that putting themselves at great trouble.

Situations could be the same at times, but they could be different at times too, which is why it has to be differently viewed and investigated before the proffered solutions can be accurate. As good as that is, I like to say that whether you are not the one who noticed the issue or even the one willing to change, it is possible that you still change due to the advice and influence of others. We see cases like that very often, only that it is better and faster if it is the person affected such that is willing to change by himself. The Willpower is there in this case, and when the Willpower is there, the process is fast because the person would have passed through the stages of admittance and will be ready to give it a fight even without any external help or interference. This is not the case for the person who doesn't even know that something is wrong with him, while others would know but will not just care about it. That's why I said initially that cases are different, and for this, we treat them differently. Even what the guys said is cool enough, it could still work for some set of gamblers. But working for all gamblers is the issue.

To be honest, i don`t cares about addicts and don`t sure that i must care about gambling addicts. The only situation when i can spend some resources for addicts - is when i see that they ready to change their life. There are lots of people who need help and i prefer to help somebody, who need it but i don`t want to help any kind of addict who made his life awful by himself.
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The problem is that we don`t think about it until it is too late. For the main part of the gamblers it isn`t a problem and they don`t think about it.
I think that your friend wasn`t a fool, but as the result he lost everything. And we must remember that such situation is possible. I can`t say that i spend much time in casino, but i asks sometimes my wife is it ok. She understand that it helps me to relax and i don`t lose much money or time and every time answers that it`s ok.
If a gambler can control his emotions and have a discipline then one thing for sure It is A very good. Because we are all know that gambler don't spend too much time and money like you mate, cause what's in your mind is you will gamble for fun only and you don't mind if you will lose or win cause you gamble what you afford to lose and that is a very good example. But still it depends on the gambler itself if he will have a discipline or not cause if not then addiction will come for sure.
I can talk only about myself. I don`t understand what is gambling addiction. I read about it, but to understand i have to feel it. And around me i see the same - no one gambling addict. That`s why i think that it is impossible. But we see news about gambling addicts, it means that it is possible. That`s why we are talking about it. May be i`m rude, but i think that it is only their problem - gambling addicts and their family. They must solve this problem themselves, without help of community. We can only give advice. It is awful to read about such situations but they have to solve it themselves - first of all because they have to understand that it is a problem.
Those people who are going through this problem, because they need a lot of support, from what I have read, when they find themselves in that situation, the person whose self-esteem is low, they usually think of pure play and doing things so that they can establish themselves so that They have a better way to play, they look for or devise a way to get money to play in the casino, all the time they think that if they had had more money they would have won big, and all those things get into a person's head. addicted, therefore I can say that it is delicate, and for me something very delicate.

The treatment is sometimes not so simple, it depends a lot on the type of person, their personality, how they experience the problems, how they react to them, not everyone has the same reaction to problems and stress, some people. It gives them heart attacks, because they don't know how to handle themselves and that's how to channel it, it's difficult, and you have to treat it with great care and delicacy.


I think you are in the right wavelength here, you cannot do that much by simply excluding yourself, you'd need to enter some short of process to solve the underlying issue of why do you in the first place have to consider such a drastic measure as excluding yourself totally from the sites - which does not even get you a chance to try to control yourself instead which is much simpler.
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I can`t agree that gambling addiction is a physiological thing. It is only in the head. He need to understand that gambling gives nothing positive to him first of all. I can suppose that later he can even gamble without any problems with addiction.
I was smoking for 20 years and stopped it about 15 years ago. Today i can to smoke with my friends during the party but it is about 1-2 times a year. The problem was only in the head.
But the question or main difference on here is that not all people would be having on the same mind when it comes on dealing up with things on which there are ones who do
have that good self control and there are ones who do really have that main problem on trying out to get rid of it., Its true that it is really that on our heads but there are
ones who do just simply tolerate it out and dont bother about the risks involved into it and they would rather just continue on the things that they are doing.
Its true that self exclusions doesnt mean a shit because you would really be just playing again once you do have the opportunity on doing so.
I think that there is no only decision how to stop and how to help. I always say that there are no even two same situations and the way that was correct for one situation can`t help in the another.
But anyway i`m sure that the first thing we have to see is that the addict decided to stop gambling. It must be only his decision, not because someone`s asked him.
Situations could be the same at times, but they could be different at times too, which is why it has to be differently viewed and investigated before the proffered solutions can be accurate. As good as that is, I like to say that whether you are not the one who noticed the issue or even the one willing to change, it is possible that you still change due to the advice and influence of others. We see cases like that very often, only that it is better and faster if it is the person affected such that is willing to change by himself. The Willpower is there in this case, and when the Willpower is there, the process is fast because the person would have passed through the stages of admittance and will be ready to give it a fight even without any external help or interference. This is not the case for the person who doesn't even know that something is wrong with him, while others would know but will not just care about it. That's why I said initially that cases are different, and for this, we treat them differently. Even what the guys said is cool enough, it could still work for some set of gamblers. But working for all gamblers is the issue.
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I can`t agree that gambling addiction is a physiological thing. It is only in the head. He need to understand that gambling gives nothing positive to him first of all. I can suppose that later he can even gamble without any problems with addiction.
I was smoking for 20 years and stopped it about 15 years ago. Today i can to smoke with my friends during the party but it is about 1-2 times a year. The problem was only in the head.
But the question or main difference on here is that not all people would be having on the same mind when it comes on dealing up with things on which there are ones who do
have that good self control and there are ones who do really have that main problem on trying out to get rid of it., Its true that it is really that on our heads but there are
ones who do just simply tolerate it out and dont bother about the risks involved into it and they would rather just continue on the things that they are doing.
Its true that self exclusions doesnt mean a shit because you would really be just playing again once you do have the opportunity on doing so.
I think that there is no only decision how to stop and how to help. I always say that there are no even two same situations and the way that was correct for one situation can`t help in the another.
But anyway i`m sure that the first thing we have to see is that the addict decided to stop gambling. It must be only his decision, not because someone`s asked him.
You would really be able to find for yourself on which one would be working and which one could not but of course once we are on a situation on which we are really that not on the right mindset
on where we are partly that been addicted on gambling on which it would really be somewhat on stirred condition on which you would really be testing out a couple of methods.
There are various ways on how you would really be self excluding yourself on which it doesnt matter if it via means of staking or what, as long it do prohibits you on playing gambling then it counts.

When it comes on limitation and similar aspects then it would really be that totally just that different compared into those people who are really that
not having that good self control on which they are really that putting themselves at great trouble.
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and just as some few comments already pointed out,  gambling addiction is a more of a physiological thing and at that,  the gambler will need to under a mental rehabilitation that will reshape his mental focus and being redirected to more productive things.

So for that,  we need to put all the focus on the addict's own willingness to quit and then give him all the support that he needs to survive in his fight against gambling addiction.
Yep, that's the right way to put it I guess. You cannot help an addict get out of the addiction as long as they are not willing to do that themselves and this is only possible if the addict acknowledges the fact that they are addicted and their addiction is causing problems and chaos for them and their life.

A Gambling addict will barely realize this thing themselves unless they have a family and they have at least a little bit of critical thinking left in them which might make them realize that the state of their home and the suffering of their family can only get better if they do something about the addiction. That is only how one can help a gambling addict get out of their addiction. If this isn't the case and the gambler has no realization whatsoever, it is not possible to push them out of the addiction.
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I can`t agree that gambling addiction is a physiological thing. It is only in the head. He need to understand that gambling gives nothing positive to him first of all. I can suppose that later he can even gamble without any problems with addiction.
I was smoking for 20 years and stopped it about 15 years ago. Today i can to smoke with my friends during the party but it is about 1-2 times a year. The problem was only in the head.
But the question or main difference on here is that not all people would be having on the same mind when it comes on dealing up with things on which there are ones who do
have that good self control and there are ones who do really have that main problem on trying out to get rid of it., Its true that it is really that on our heads but there are
ones who do just simply tolerate it out and dont bother about the risks involved into it and they would rather just continue on the things that they are doing.
Its true that self exclusions doesnt mean a shit because you would really be just playing again once you do have the opportunity on doing so.
I think that there is no only decision how to stop and how to help. I always say that there are no even two same situations and the way that was correct for one situation can`t help in the another.
But anyway i`m sure that the first thing we have to see is that the addict decided to stop gambling. It must be only his decision, not because someone`s asked him.
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Those people who are going through this problem, because they need a lot of support, from what I have read, when they find themselves in that situation, the person whose self-esteem is low, they usually think of pure play and doing things so that they can establish themselves so that They have a better way to play, they look for or devise a way to get money to play in the casino, all the time they think that if they had had more money they would have won big, and all those things get into a person's head. addicted, therefore I can say that it is delicate, and for me something very delicate.

If you make it simple, the gamblers should stop thinking too much about the gambling returns and they should lower their gambling expectations, and this may help them overcome the urge to gamble all the time. Saving money while gambling sometimes seems more appropriate approach than thinking on how can you make money from gambling. If you are able to save your seed money while gambling, you have done a good job.

The treatment is sometimes not so simple, it depends a lot on the type of person, their personality, how they experience the problems, how they react to them, not everyone has the same reaction to problems and stress, some people. It gives them heart attacks, because they don't know how to handle themselves and that's how to channel it, it's difficult, and you have to treat it with great care and delicacy.

If anyone indulges in gambling addiction, the treatment of this won't be easy. Also if the gambler himself does not want to change his habits, the others may find it even more difficult to convince him that he is at fault and needs to be cured. If somehow he is denied access to the money, so this can help him reduce his exposure to gambling but still the question remains as to how we can do this sort of impossible task.
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Contact the customer support of the anonymous gambling site and request self-exclusion, following their specified procedures.
LOl this has been an issue for how many times now that self exclusions don't function that much and only brings more problem because self exclusion is not truly a gambling sites wanted as they need gamblers to continue playing and this feature is just to make their site clean looking but the reality ? lol who would love to let your depositors stop betting.
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Brentford itself is in a bad condition, they were only able to achieve 1 win from the last 5 matches they played, and they had to lose the other 4. With the reverse situation from Manchester City, Manchester City should not have too much difficulty beating them in this match. However, they still cannot underestimate their opponents.
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I understand and don`t understand it the same time. I know that it is possible and can`t understand how it is possible.
But i think that it is true that their is self-esteem is low. And they need to begin doing something themselves - they can get their family support and i think that it must be enough for start. I don`t want to spend any resources(time, money, food - doesn`t matter) for someone, who just lose it. I can help when he show that he is ready to struggle, not else.
correct, because no matter what you do if the person is still not ready to accept any help then we will go back from the beginning and will always lose the battle, because this issue is about the involved person how to trust the system because it is not in our hands to decide but them so I agree on your point and I know that you understand the situation.
Most times,  the challenges with getting over addictions many is the replacement tool,  and even though the gambler already put everything in place,  he still need to be very proactive enough to learn how to rely on other things aside from gambling,  and just as some few comments already pointed out,  gambling addiction is a more of a physiological thing and at that,  the gambler will need to under a mental rehabilitation that will reshape his mental focus and being redirected to more productive things.

So for that,  we need to put all the focus on the addict's own willingness to quit and then give him all the support that he needs to survive in his fight against gambling addiction.
I can`t agree that gambling addiction is a physiological thing. It is only in the head. He need to understand that gambling gives nothing positive to him first of all. I can suppose that later he can even gamble without any problems with addiction.
I was smoking for 20 years and stopped it about 15 years ago. Today i can to smoke with my friends during the party but it is about 1-2 times a year. The problem was only in the head.
But the question or main difference on here is that not all people would be having on the same mind when it comes on dealing up with things on which there are ones who do
have that good self control and there are ones who do really have that main problem on trying out to get rid of it., Its true that it is really that on our heads but there are
ones who do just simply tolerate it out and dont bother about the risks involved into it and they would rather just continue on the things that they are doing.
Its true that self exclusions doesnt mean a shit because you would really be just playing again once you do have the opportunity on doing so.
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I understand and don`t understand it the same time. I know that it is possible and can`t understand how it is possible.
But i think that it is true that their is self-esteem is low. And they need to begin doing something themselves - they can get their family support and i think that it must be enough for start. I don`t want to spend any resources(time, money, food - doesn`t matter) for someone, who just lose it. I can help when he show that he is ready to struggle, not else.
correct, because no matter what you do if the person is still not ready to accept any help then we will go back from the beginning and will always lose the battle, because this issue is about the involved person how to trust the system because it is not in our hands to decide but them so I agree on your point and I know that you understand the situation.
Most times,  the challenges with getting over addictions many is the replacement tool,  and even though the gambler already put everything in place,  he still need to be very proactive enough to learn how to rely on other things aside from gambling,  and just as some few comments already pointed out,  gambling addiction is a more of a physiological thing and at that,  the gambler will need to under a mental rehabilitation that will reshape his mental focus and being redirected to more productive things.

So for that,  we need to put all the focus on the addict's own willingness to quit and then give him all the support that he needs to survive in his fight against gambling addiction.
I can`t agree that gambling addiction is a physiological thing. It is only in the head. He need to understand that gambling gives nothing positive to him first of all. I can suppose that later he can even gamble without any problems with addiction.
I was smoking for 20 years and stopped it about 15 years ago. Today i can to smoke with my friends during the party but it is about 1-2 times a year. The problem was only in the head.
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I understand and don`t understand it the same time. I know that it is possible and can`t understand how it is possible.
But i think that it is true that their is self-esteem is low. And they need to begin doing something themselves - they can get their family support and i think that it must be enough for start. I don`t want to spend any resources(time, money, food - doesn`t matter) for someone, who just lose it. I can help when he show that he is ready to struggle, not else.
correct, because no matter what you do if the person is still not ready to accept any help then we will go back from the beginning and will always lose the battle, because this issue is about the involved person how to trust the system because it is not in our hands to decide but them so I agree on your point and I know that you understand the situation.
Most times,  the challenges with getting over addictions many is the replacement tool,  and even though the gambler already put everything in place,  he still need to be very proactive enough to learn how to rely on other things aside from gambling,  and just as some few comments already pointed out,  gambling addiction is a more of a physiological thing and at that,  the gambler will need to under a mental rehabilitation that will reshape his mental focus and being redirected to more productive things.

So for that,  we need to put all the focus on the addict's own willingness to quit and then give him all the support that he needs to survive in his fight against gambling addiction.
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