Topic: How to self exclude from anonymous gambling sites - page 23. (Read 6797 times)

The problem is that we don`t think about it until it is too late. For the main part of the gamblers it isn`t a problem and they don`t think about it.
I think that your friend wasn`t a fool, but as the result he lost everything. And we must remember that such situation is possible. I can`t say that i spend much time in casino, but i asks sometimes my wife is it ok. She understand that it helps me to relax and i don`t lose much money or time and every time answers that it`s ok.

Well, only a fool will place gambling over his or her family, a friend of mine from way back lost his family and son, that is, the woman could no longer take the man spending every dime he earns on gambling, and when the woman herself tries to save money on her own for the need of the family, the man will use the money to gamble if he eventually stumbled and discovered where his wife hid money.

This thing did continued to happen for several times on several occasions, I personally have settled the both of them many times, but one day, the woman packed her belongings, took the son and they went away while the man was at work, she did not tell anybody where she was going, this thing happened in 2018 and till date, no body knows the where about of the woman and my friends son, my friend have lived in regrets all this years, and it's all what addiction to gambling cost him.

Family is very important, we are supposed to give more attention and commit more resources to our family and their welfare, than we do for gambling.

Exactly !!
I totally agree to this option of yours, and yes its gonna be of great help to everyone in the gambling world.first of all is to exclude yourself from any sites that can link you or make you to stake.

And again i think its self determination,once your  mind is at doing a particular thing,honestly nothing can hinder your progress,but when the reverse is the case.you end up seeing yourself revolving around same boat.

Not only so. We accountable for our families and they accountable for us. We can`t do everything we want easily. If you can gamble for fun, can stop any moment and even don`t think about it - it isn`t a problem. But some gamblers can`t stop and lose all the money and time in casino. As result they lose their family.

So you're saying that because using a staking method to self-exclude is risky to most gamblers, hence why do they prefer not to do it instead? Isn't it a bit overkill to deny self-exclusion completely just because you might lose your money due to a faulty smart contract though? There are also other options to lock your money such as using time-locked transaction on BTC, so you don't have to trust a staking platform or something similar. If anything, if you prefer to keep gambling and hope that you somehow manage to control your addiction with no help, I think that just shows that you're being addicted for real.

If I'm not reading your post wrong, your second sentence basically said that some people fall to security incidents on some untrusted/new websites, hence why they should look for reputable ones if they want to use their money. I agree to some extent, but that doesn't mean they don't use features like self-exclusion that are provided by the platform at all. CMMIW.

Lol...But as laughable as this approach is, if a gambler can still position himself to make it work, it might work, but not for all. For it to be weak is the issue, but can still heal or control some gamblers to do the right thing nonetheless. I am certain that it will be very few it can help though, which makes it not a potent approach. Again, this is a risky approach, it will force you to lock your money in a scheme you do not have absolute control over, but what if something bad happens to the scheme and you want to make a panic withdrawal? This will never be possible unless the 21 days lapse, which is so discouraging.

Also, people who are truly addicted to gambling will see this as a waste of time as it will not be able to heal their wrong psychology. For the money they think they keep, this will be a temporary setback as more money would be sorted out from elsewhere and the gambling will continue still. I think that it is not about keeping or locking one's money that would effectively solve gambling addiction, it is just like cutting the grass from the surface and not the root, it will get back to what it was before the cutting, and it is only a question of time. What I believe is the solution is to be willing to change, while enforcing it one way or another is a good bet to make it happen.

One can do it by themselves if they are willing but the Willpower must be there. If they can't do it all by themselves, they can seek the help of others like their friends, family or experts in the field that deals with mental health and psychological issues. It is never the end for anyone who is facing the challenges of gambling addiction, but first, they should be more occupied with something else, earn a decent amount of money from other sources, believe that gambling is not a dependable source to make money and also fight it within, which is where the Willpower comes in. If anyone can be so determined and disciplined to do all those, then their gambling addiction will soon be a forgotten issue.

I think everything will still be related to the profits and losses obtained, I personally think anything that does not provide benefits is something that must be fought or suppressed to be avoided.
Self-exclusion will only be carried out by few gamblers because if we take into account the percentage of gamblers then we will find quite significant differences, especially for online gambling then self-exclusion will feel more important.
We will always maintain security for ourselves personally and of course if we are not the ones who start it then it will never be possible to achieve this security. Several cases have occurred and experienced by several gamblers on gambling sites whose reputation may still not be tested.
This is also very important in term of sustainability in gambling, we must prioritize places that can be trusted and relied on to be able to have that stability.

It just hit me bro Im trying to deposit more so I just locked my money by buying near and locked it for 120 days that is why How i control myself haha.

So just deposit only that you can afford to lose stay on your budget and throw away your additional money and don't deposit more that is what Im talking about

That's why self exclusion works and helps.
It's like you locking your money in a fixed deposit, call it CD in America, savings account in the UK, or however you call or refer to it globally.

Where the money is not touchable you cannot gamble it, then the money sits and gains interest with far lower risks than "all or nothing" on some over/under bet, or spread, or total, or side, money line, tennis player or what's not.

Still, the majority of the responses here seem to claim people should be able to control themselves without relying on such solutions, I'm truly wondering if you guys ever spend 5 minutes reading the "problemgambling" Reddit for instance, read this one for instance:

https://www.reddit.com/r/problemgambling/comments/19e4lm7/does_self_exclusion_help/

See what problems gamblers have to say about it.

Why so many of you keep on going against the wall, against this "brick" and keep on fighting and arguing with the notion here that is telling you so simply and so straightforward that some gamblers find self-exclusion as extremely helpful?!

 

Actually, you don't need to think of it as a challenge. Especially if you only use gambling as entertainment because entertainment doesn't have to be done every day. If you can use gambling as entertainment, it means you are not dependent on gambling and can do other things to get entertainment too.

This is what gamblers need to realize so that they don't get too deep into gambling. By understanding the meaning of gambling as entertainment, they just need to have fun for a certain time and after that, they should immediately stop gambling. By doing it continuously like that, their mindset will not change into wanting to gamble any longer.

They will have their limits so they don't need to use self-exclusion. They can determine how long they gamble and how much money they can use for gambling. We have to determine it and not gambling that determines how long we gamble.

The freedom of what we believe is convenient is what gives us and makes the difference. You might think that things are very Different when they are casino platforms , we are people who are always looking for ways to do things better , I always look for platforms where I feel comfortable, where there are no problems of any kind and so I always have Access to make any withdrawal and where my data is not involved.

Casinos that are Decentralized or something like that don't catch my attention but the KYC statuses are important for me to not leave them everywhere, I'm like that, but the tranquility is something I like, it's something that I always I have seen , the more Comfort you have in a place the better , I could say that that is what you always look for, I am a person who likes the best.

You're right, life is fare a d simple, but we tend to approach it from the difficult aspect maybe in some cases, we can always get involved in what we like a d not necessarily be forced into it, we have our own freedom to use, if we are not given then we should take it and have it for ourselves, gambling should be done with the best of what excites us while on it, this is something we owe no one accountable for than ourselves.

That is definitely a big factor which explains why most people cannot stop once they begin to gamble, since it is very easy to think about all the things you can do to limit your gambling and do it responsibly, but as soon as you are in that situation you do not think about those measures anymore and just think about enjoying yourself while gambling, and this means that you will fall into the same old habits you have developed and bet more than what you can afford to lose.

That's a very wrong bottom line.

Will, disciplined etc.. This is are just theoretical factors that help you self but in reality it’s very hard to apply that when you are already gambling. I have a lot of experience in gambling while I can proudly say that I’m on a profit side.

I never give much consideration about those theoretical factors when playing but rather just focus on the game. Thinking how you control yourself on gambling will just make you focus on it and later on failed because of our innate greediness. Just play naturally and always be ready to worst scenario. Gambling is not for a weak heart so consider that first before trying it because you will keep crumbling on self control issue of your personality is not tailored on gambling risk no matter what experience you have.

It is still our obligation and our attitude that will help us exclude from being addicted or even can control ourselves from gambling and this is the hardest task but super worth it.
I don't believe in just staking our money to hinder us to gamble for a time but instead what we need is permanent solution and yes that is what it needed , to learn how to manage our attitude and our willingness and when we managed that? for sure forever we will be saved to risking much more .
if you are going to lose 275 dollars each time and twice a week? then you are spending much for that mate and better to learn hor to control your self.

We are always faced with the challenge our decisions making when we start betting every single day except we are very much prepared about how we plan to go about it. Everyday usually brings a new door of winning or losing depending on how flexible we are in what we are doing. Those that had been gambling for a very long time now would under more about what I'm trying to pass in my opinion.
There are always time for us to celebrate that's when we win and the time when we could be sad, that's when we lose our bet.

bottomline, it is your own will to really change for the betterment of yourself. because if such will is weak, you will find out that it is too easy to break your promises to yourself. and you can just access any other gambling site, right? but if you have strong determination to alter your lifestyle, there's no need to exclude yourself, maybe just pause your gambling activities or transfer your funds to your wallet. so you don't have the temptation to disburse it via your games.

If those locked or staked funds do came from your last funds then possibly you could take a break on doing gambling but if this is really just that a portion of your money then it would be pointless.
Why? you would really be still that playing gambling with other money source that you do have, this is why it would really be that pertaining on someones interest because if he
do still have that kind of motive on playing gambling then stopping completely cant be possible since there would really be other options that they could really be able to take.
It is really just that people are really that not be able to think up sensibly towards those options which they do know that it cant be effective
but somewhat this kind of action or step isnt really that bad also.

Welcome to the party, we have said these times without numbers that it will not work at all, gambling is to engage more than that before the gambler is healed, and if one had locked the money, another money that is available later will be used to continue the gambling. This can't exclude anything but help the gambler to keep his money somewhere for a specific period of time. There are many investments we make that will lock our money for even more than 21 days, some 90 days, some 6 months, and some a year and even more. Will that stop a bettor or an addict in gambling to stop gambling?

Who knows, due to the fact that the money was locked and deprived the gambler of the chance to bet, maybe he will not repeat it again, but instead commit the money, after the 21 days have lapsed, to betting and wasted it including the profit initially gained. I think what the OP is suggesting is never the solution here and will never hold water. The solution is psychology and that is how the bettor should approach it. Building self-control and discipline and having the determination in what you want to do will go a long way over that recommendation. It will be nice for the gambler to work on his willpower, in addition, and always being cautious of gambling controlling power to be able to gamble when he feels like it and avoid it when he doesn't want to gamble.