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You can watch this video from 07:20 if you want to skip on the other parts:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxty2XhTwVI

Basically it's very simple.

You take a currency that requires 21 days for staking/unstaking, then you deposit this amount in Atomic Wallet, stake it and then you can't gamble with the crypto you're holding.

The locking (staking) is done with one single click of a button, and it's practically speaking, equivalent to activation of self-exclusion on an online gambling site with a click of a button (and yet not all sites offer it unfortunately).

For example, you stake (lock) $200 of your crypto, and that's all crypto available for you - then you can't play/gamble/risk it for at least 21 days ... do it 15 times a year time after time, and you would be excluded for a long time.

The only drawback with this method is Atomic doesn't offer this on USDT so some "gamblers" might not like this idea because they trust stablecoins more than other crypto coins, but this is FYI.

When it comes on making use of those staking as your way of self excluding yourself then it would be your choice but we know that not all staking set up or terms would really be that the same on which
there are ones who do have that anytime unlock period on which it would really be just that normal that there would be deductions. For those people or gamblers who had been wary for these different
staking terms and conditions then they wont really be that choosing into those who do have some lock up, unless if you are really that tending or having plans of this one in the first place then
its up to someones choice on which it isnt really that a bad option or kind of choice on having that self lock up of funds on trying to combat addiction.

Somewhat it would really be still that pointless if we do speak on trying out to solve out that addiction.Why? There would really be a specific time that you would
really be finding yourself that trying to look for another options on which you could really be able to play anytime that you do want.This is why
it would be pointless as long you do have that kind of intent on mind.
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Instead of Atomic wallet, Trustwallet can be used. Trustwallet gives decentralized option while Atomic wallet has its own validator. Trustwallet has many validators and atomic wallet is part of them if they support the staked coin.

I prefer to use Keplr wallet which has been the best that I know. If the wallet support a coin that I want to stake, I prefer the wallet even than Trustwallet.

I can understand you, because gamblers would be discouraged to unstake their coins because the unstaking period can take up to a week or more.
Every Decentralized Wallet dApp provides option to browse from there you can connect the wallet to any web3 site and transact there with full privacy you can use Trust Wallet, Atomic Wallet, Metamusk and any other Decentralized Wallet. So far gambling platforms are mostly run on centralized platforms. so you will rarely see web3 casino sites in the market. Because of this no matter which wallet you use you must create one now on their casino site and perform KYC as required. So in this case no wallet can make you anonymous
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Though, I don't know if this has happened to you. But I have got the impression people on the internet are more ready to admit they are addicted to gambling or they have some sort of issue/problem than those I see face to face in real life buying tickets to play animal roulette or other games.
Even here in the forum I have see people to openly admit they have a problem with gambling and they are trying to work on it. It makes me wonder if those same people one see around on the internet would also admit their problems to others outside of the internet.
I guess it has something to do with the pseudo-anonymous feeling many of them have to admit their problems to strangers, in comparison to swallow their pride and say the same thing to their friends and family members. How knows? People can behave in strange ways when comes to struggling to addictions, there is no doubt about it...
That's true, because they won't see anyone face to face and it's easier to talk to a stranger and admit that you're experiencing gambling problems than to someone you know personally.

You just can't trust someone you know personally to handle your problems or just by telling it to them so that you have someone on your back to assist you.

I think that we change based on the environment that we are in. We're not just comfortable to talk about it in real life and easier to talk it with some random forum members about the problem.
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But what's next if the days are passed and the gambler may now unlock the staking? It's possible that he may lose his appetite to gamble for that long and at the same time, he earned some.

It is a temporary solution for those gamblers who are experience craving for gambling recklessly in a seasonal manner, not all the time. I think.
It is quite similar to the classic method of self-exclusion casinos themselves offer to gamblers, casinos (specially online ones) won't self-excluse their gamblers forever, instead they will only lock them out for a limited period of time.
If one want to get self-excluded from casinos is a permanent way (both brick-and-mortar), one would need to get help from someone of high trust who would help one to handle finances, savings, expenses, cash. Etc, until the person has gone effectively through the healing process.
Yeah, it's just a temporary solution but maybe with the period that's set on the staking could give him sometime to reflect that he should just leave and forget about gambling.

A strategy that can help someone but might not do to the most.

Unfortunately, I do not think many problem gamblers in the making would be aware enough of their problems so they would rely their finances on a third party, even if it could help them.
I agree, they're unlikely to admit that they're problem gamblers and that's the hardest part when they can't accept that they're now part of the problem and needs some solution to it.

Though, I don't know if this has happened to you. But I have got the impression people on the internet are more ready to admit they are addicted to gambling or they have some sort of issue/problem than those I see face to face in real life buying tickets to play animal roulette or other games.
Even here in the forum I have see people to openly admit they have a problem with gambling and they are trying to work on it. It makes me wonder if those same people one see around on the internet would also admit their problems to others outside of the internet.
I guess it has something to do with the pseudo-anonymous feeling many of them have to admit their problems to strangers, in comparison to swallow their pride and say the same thing to their friends and family members. How knows? People can behave in strange ways when comes to struggling to addictions, there is no doubt about it...
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No matter how easy it seems some people can't stop gambling, it's more like a hobby for them and some it's already an addiction, but I am thinking of a less way risky way using your method, what if they stake for monthly returns and they use that for gambling only? What do you think?

They will still have their normal numbers of assets and they will use the gains on gambling, it makes sense as they are using free money to gamble instead of advising them to stay away, mind you, not all gamblers are into gambling because they don't have a job or ways to get passive income.

Some people who are getting paid every week and months are also into gambling, it's not as if lack of job is why everyone is gambling, but having a job is what makes gambling a easy something for me, as I already have good income stream and I am satisfied, but I am still into gambling because I just want to.
Stopping gambling? Not everyone knows the characteristics of gambling but I'm quite aware of those gamblers that place wagers on games, winning becomes so easy as long as you have a steady paying income, they just understands it's easy to grabbed significant opportunities and work on measures to tap out profits and reduce our losses. A profession is important for all being, it must be paying and earning from top grade to medium grades. Gambling is not bad as it seems, we have couple of gamblers that are top-notch in their profession, gambling is just extra job for us to start earning and producing change.
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But what's next if the days are passed and the gambler may now unlock the staking? It's possible that he may lose his appetite to gamble for that long and at the same time, he earned some.

It is a temporary solution for those gamblers who are experience craving for gambling recklessly in a seasonal manner, not all the time. I think.
It is quite similar to the classic method of self-exclusion casinos themselves offer to gamblers, casinos (specially online ones) won't self-excluse their gamblers forever, instead they will only lock them out for a limited period of time.
If one want to get self-excluded from casinos is a permanent way (both brick-and-mortar), one would need to get help from someone of high trust who would help one to handle finances, savings, expenses, cash. Etc, until the person has gone effectively through the healing process.
Yeah, it's just a temporary solution but maybe with the period that's set on the staking could give him sometime to reflect that he should just leave and forget about gambling.

A strategy that can help someone but might not do to the most.

Unfortunately, I do not think many problem gamblers in the making would be aware enough of their problems so they would rely their finances on a third party, even if it could help them.
I agree, they're unlikely to admit that they're problem gamblers and that's the hardest part when they can't accept that they're now part of the problem and needs some solution to it.
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No matter how easy it seems some people can't stop gambling, it's more like a hobby for them and some it's already an addiction, but I am thinking of a less way risky way using your method, what if they stake for monthly returns and they use that for gambling only? What do you think?

They will still have their normal numbers of assets and they will use the gains on gambling, it makes sense as they are using free money to gamble instead of advising them to stay away, mind you, not all gamblers are into gambling because they don't have a job or ways to get passive income.

Some people who are getting paid every week and months are also into gambling, it's not as if lack of job is why everyone is gambling, but having a job is what makes gambling a easy something for me, as I already have good income stream and I am satisfied, but I am still into gambling because I just want to.
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You can watch this video from 07:20 if you want to skip on the other parts:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxty2XhTwVI

Basically it's very simple.

You take a currency that requires 21 days for staking/unstaking, then you deposit this amount in Atomic Wallet, stake it and then you can't gamble with the crypto you're holding.

The locking (staking) is done with one single click of a button, and it's practically speaking, equivalent to activation of self-exclusion on an online gambling site with a click of a button (and yet not all sites offer it unfortunately).

For example, you stake (lock) $200 of your crypto, and that's all crypto available for you - then you can't play/gamble/risk it for at least 21 days ... do it 15 times a year time after time, and you would be excluded for a long time.

The only drawback with this method is Atomic doesn't offer this on USDT so some "gamblers" might not like this idea because they trust stablecoins more than other crypto coins, but this is FYI.


Lol, if it would be that easy then nobody would be a gambling addict and everyone would just self exclude from gambling sites.
Not just staking but there are other alternatives like fixed deposits where you can't withdraw without paying some additional fees.
But people should have that kind of self control to self exclude themselves and that's where the problem rises.
Many gambling addicts don't really have the self control to self exclude themselves from gambling sites.
I can't just stop imagining what the OP means, maybe it's for some marketing gimmicks but let us not go there. That approach can only make anyone to try to limit the time they are gambling in that package plan, but we should know that it will not be effective as people are not patient with such a gambling style. Fine, they might be involved in this but as they wait for the 21 days for the maturity of their bet, they could be idle and start betting on other things, so it stops nothing. This is why I know that it would not help at all in the area of self-exclusion and I don't know why the OP would even add that to it. The idea of betting and waiting for a longer duration of time is cool by me, it makes you think well before you place the bet and relieves you of the stress of regularly waiting for the result.

But the questions are these; Is it the only thing we can gamble? Can it even give us the regular fun we want in gambling to substitute for the waiting? Also for the last question, we need fun in our gambling all the time, so if we are even gambling that of the OP, we will still have to be forced to gamble in another sector to have fun, this is very normal. This amounts the OP's plan to nothing, it's only when one can control their psychology that they can exclude themselves from gambling when they want, but not by elongating the time, they will surely find an alternative and remain in their condition.
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to Self Exclude is to seek help , we need someone to help us out because gambling addiction is
like cancer that you cannot take away but you can heal with the help of doctor as I don't say to help for professional
help but at least some people that we trust and lean on. try asking your parents,siblings or even best friends for this battle.

But maybe I will consider this if I am addicted gambler , to stake all my funds but not just for 21 days
instead I will lock for more months or even year, so I have  a Long term holding and has no capacity to withdraw.
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Staking the money will keep us away from gambling , specially those gamblers that has no other source of income but just from work and from winning in gambling , meaning if they will stake their available funds for gambling then they will leave them no option but to wait and be sober from gambling.
but the problem is that those who has lot of source , maybe they will just jump to another way of funding to deposit and gamble more.
though I should agree with this way because at least it would lessen the funds to spend each day if many gamblers do it as said.
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I don't understand what's anonymous gambling sites have to do with your post.

The another alternative is using time lock, you can lock your coins how long you want.

Or the best solution is to learn about self control without need to use any tool that could give drawbacks of hack, urgent need, human mistake, etc.


The last method is the only one that will work, trying to control ourselves by using an external source is never going to fully work, it may work for a time, but if the desire to gamble becomes too intense then at some point that person will stop staking or locking their coins and they will gamble with them, so it is way better to gain the inner strength needed to control ourselves since anyone that truly wants to achieve this goal should be able to do so without too much of a problem.
South Park, time lock on wallets is not the same as staking or locking your coin on a yielding platform,  but it is a feature that allows you to place a time/date lock on your balance in your wallet, this is the most effective means to self exclude yourself from gambling since only the timer controls your access to that funds and wallet and at first, you be the one to set the timing limit at all time but once set, you give up control o er the timing and until the timer reaches 0:0 only then the wallet will be open for operation.
This method is much more effective than self-control because self-control leaves the gambler with the responsibility to control everything by himself so sometimes it can also fail also most especially in those that have some elements of addiction in them already.
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i've watch the video man staking is good when it comes atomic is also part of trustwallet i'd say why not stake them on altcoins? easy to pull and easy to put, but if you really wants to exclude your self on gambling addiction why not find a wife or siblings that can hold your money instead of staking them , what if there's an urgent emergency that needed money? or the best thing you can do is to find something that can make your self busy instead of visiting site that can trigger you to gamble your money again, for example this month your going on a vacation or doing something good for your self open a good business
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Indeed , staking is for investors that wanted to earn but not to be stay away from gambling because it contradict

Who says? you?
So someone else can say otherwise - what makes your claim stronger?

Except I don't properly understand what he or she meant, else, I did say that he or she is right, though not with the "because it contradict" part.
Any gambler can also stake to earn which is very normal, gambling in the first place was never meant to be a source of income, but unfortunately today, we have alot of persons who now take gambling as another means of earning money.

I personally, play gambling, and I also stake some of my altcoins that offer such possibilities to earn some extra money while hodling.

So, in conclusion, staking and gambling is what any body can do if they choose, a gambler can participate in other forms of earning money, not just stick to gambling.
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Indeed , staking is for investors that wanted to earn but not to be stay away from gambling because it contradict

Who says? you?
So someone else can say otherwise - what makes your claim stronger?
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All I can think about this topic is lack of self control, if you can't stop yourself from doing something you have failed as a man, because this is what will always define you in everything you do, staking have been around for many years and it's better for those who want to get money out of holding their tokens and coins for a long term.
Indeed , staking is for investors that wanted to earn but not to be stay away from gambling because it contradict
the motive and intentions.
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To get a good money from staking it also requires a better value of the token you plan to stake for long or short term, you should just know what you want, and improve yourself in making decisions.
still it is not for gambling to use , but for the coin we trusted and wanted to bring us more that we can achieve in gambling.
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Also do not advice people to use atomic wallet, it's not safe, and it's so bad that I would rather stake my coins on Binance exchange rather than using Atomic wallet for staking, and Binance supports USDT staking, both APY and APR, the best one I trust most is Trust wallet, you are welcome.
maybe because of what op is insisting , that Only Atomic wallet is available? Binance exchange is when you are staking for trading.
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lol, this is not what I expected when I read the title. I just don't open the website if I don't want to gamble, I think it's better than going roundabout way.
Sometimes, it makes sense for us to try to see and discuss things like this from other peoples perspective, people who are addicted to gambling, and not from our own perspective since we are not addicted.

You are right, that was pretty ignorant from me. But yet, I feel there are better options than staking crypto. Although, right now we are in bull market so staking is probably alright, but otherwise it can bite back. For example, one of my friend, staked dot in last 2021 bull market, dot is significantly down compared to when he staked.

Also, atomic wallet was hacked recently, it's not a safe option to hold your funds.

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If someone wants to risk $1,000 on a sports bet, casino, you name it, then a $10 fee won't stop him/her from gambling with it.

But if the funds are locked then you cannot lose them, they are just being locked temporarily whilst you're getting your thoughts, your mind and trying to regain some clarity before making a decision if what you wanted to do with the money was really worth it.
I agree with you when you undergo a severe loss, you don't look at the transaction fees anymore and your mind only cares about one thing, trying to recover your loss at all costs literally, in order to avoid to have to face the consequences, if you are not experienced enough or if you have not a mindset strong enough at this moment. That's why I think it's more useful to train your mindset and to learn how to take a step back in those highly stressful situations but we are just human beings, so this kind of tricks are helpful too and efficient to some extent.
Only an irresponsible gambler will lose money in gambling and then want to recover it at all cost, it shows that first, he or she was gambling with funds he or she can not afford to lose, and Secondly, like I believe that every experienced gambler already know, such gamblers stand a high chance of losing even more money in their quest to try to recover what ever amount of money he or she have lost to gambling.

Like I will always say. If only we all as gambler will learn to gamble more for fun and less for making money, then we wouldn't have alot of problem gamblers out there..
like you have said, training ourselves to know when to take a step back in gambling is a good thing, but unfortunately, not very many gamblers give attention to all of this, some only start learning this things after they have fallen a couple of times, like myself when I newly started gambling, I thought wining and becoming a millionaire was easy, and by this, I put in every thing I had a couple of times and lost it, at a point, I realized that luck can't be forced, and the most you try to force it, the more you lose money unnecessarily.
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If someone wants to risk $1,000 on a sports bet, casino, you name it, then a $10 fee won't stop him/her from gambling with it.

But if the funds are locked then you cannot lose them, they are just being locked temporarily whilst you're getting your thoughts, your mind and trying to regain some clarity before making a decision if what you wanted to do with the money was really worth it.
I agree with you when you undergo a severe loss, you don't look at the transaction fees anymore and your mind only cares about one thing, trying to recover your loss at all costs literally, in order to avoid to have to face the consequences, if you are not experienced enough or if you have not a mindset strong enough at this moment. That's why I think it's more useful to train your mindset and to learn how to take a step back in those highly stressful situations but we are just human beings, so this kind of tricks are helpful too and efficient to some extent.
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But what's next if the days are passed and the gambler may now unlock the staking? It's possible that he may lose his appetite to gamble for that long and at the same time, he earned some.

It is a temporary solution for those gamblers who are experience craving for gambling recklessly in a seasonal manner, not all the time. I think.
It is quite similar to the classic method of self-exclusion casinos themselves offer to gamblers, casinos (specially online ones) won't self-excluse their gamblers forever, instead they will only lock them out for a limited period of time.
If one want to get self-excluded from casinos is a permanent way (both brick-and-mortar), one would need to get help from someone of high trust who would help one to handle finances, savings, expenses, cash. Etc, until the person has gone effectively through the healing process.

Unfortunately, I do not think many problem gamblers in the making would be aware enough of their problems so they would rely their finances on a third party, even if it could help them.
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This is like a manual method so that you will be forced not to spend your money to a casino and you'll have the reason why you can't gamble because your funds are locked.

I think it's a good idea for those that are finding ways on how they can avoid depositing and self exclude themselves manually. So, this is a practice that you can do and choose whenever you ran out of options.

But what's next if the days are passed and the gambler may now unlock the staking? It's possible that he may lose his appetite to gamble for that long and at the same time, he earned some.
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