Topic: How to self exclude from anonymous gambling sites - page 22. (Read 6797 times)

I sometimes understand the Peroans who Want to make a self-exclusion to protect themselves, and the truth is I see it as a measure of heroes, whoever or has that way of doing things and improving them so that they can be well, now if I go to see the things that can be generated due to this, because I could get even more peace of mind, I am not Going to say that it is completely complete, no, because for complete security much more is needed  but I can say that when it comes to to do things better it is good to do these things, it is better to Excuse yourself than to spend a lot of money, fall into Addiction and turn the life you lead into a Complete, I am not going to Say that it is the solution for everything, because the people who do This Clearly means that they will never have Control over themselves, and that is something very Serious , I think it is Serious because then later on any future they have in their life Will not be able to be Realized Except through other things that force them to give it up.

We are adult people who know what is good and what is good, we must realize that if we are doing an activity that will make us look bad later , we will not have the Ability to overcome it and that can do us great harm, not recommended , that all the time we dedicate ourselves to the fact that through bad times and due to the obligations of others we have to do something that is correct, I effectively call this as a Commitment to belonging and being strong people, because this does not give any type of effectiveness in life, what we do is limit ourselves, I Understand that when it is called or spoken of as autocnotorl, many can give their opinion, but I know that it is difficult to take autocnotrol due to the great things that can happen, but we must be clear. Because things are like that and they must be Fulfilled as such when we are Seeking to be Better people in Every sense , not only in the Casino but in life.

The self-exclusion feature/program is a very good and welcome development but it has a whole lot of limitations as it is poorly adhered to by the gambler and even the casinos for their selfish reasons. Needless to say that it is not all casinos that have such a feature on their platform. Maybe unless the person contacts them manually to let them know what he is facing with gambling and letting his intention known going forward. But I tell you that this doesn't work well even though it is a very good alternative but will so much depend on the gambler and the casino's dedication to it.

Will the gambler be ready to adhere to it and be strict with it for his own benefit? And will the casino avoid their selfish reason to make sure that such gambler is kicked out for a specific period of time? I've heard stories about this self-exclusion of a thing where the same gambler will cancel it and the casino will turn a blind eye. This is the world we live in, everyone wants to make money regardless of how it affects another. Also, some gamblers are the problem of themselves, and even if the casino had done its part, the gambler could use another person's details to continue gambling or gamble elsewhere. It is as bad as that.

Actually self exclusions would really be just that useless if you are really that addicted to gambling on which high chances that you would really be still playing out into other places.
This is why it would really be that important that you should really be solving out that kind of addiction first because you wont really be needing any exclusions if you are really just
that having that kind of control and moderation. If you are planning on having those kind of staking or locking your funds for you to be not able to play then
it would be somewhat useless, on which it would really be simple that you could play as long you do have the funds then high chances that you would really be playing again.

I`m just thinking about it for a long enough time, not with gamblers but the addicts. And i think that we can`t help them if they don`t try to help themselves. It is just a waste of resources without any result.

I don`t think that we can give them some money even with control until we see that they change their life. If they really try to change themselves - we can help, but even in such situation it must be not a gift, but a loan.

There is no point helping someone who did not ask for help in the first place, for  it is often said that a doctor does not force medication on a patient who does not want to be medicated or administered drugs on.

Helping someone is like we sacrificing something for their own good, and such sacrifices requires that we be appreciated atleast, so as to keep the motivation to continue to help high, and when we force such help on a person, there is every chance that such person will not return back to appreciate, Infact, they may even curse you for helping them, and if such happens, we have ourselves to blame and not them.
This is why I personally will not help someone who did not ask for my help.

Even God in heaven, knowing we need help, still say we should ask, through prayer  .

I managed to understand you and I think you are right at the same time. For those who are struggling with gambling-related issues and addictions, one can provide help for them but we should define the kind of help we provide so that it will not be as if we are encouraging them to gamble more even as they are not with their senses. This is especially true if we are not sensitive. Imagine, trying to help a gambling addict and you are providing the person with extra cash just because he tells you a story and you felt for him through pit. That is not a solution, you are only encouraging him because who knows what he would do with your money? I am sure that most of that money will end up in his gambling account too which makes it not a wise decision.

One may help them monetarily as a friend, but the same must ensure that they channel the money into what they need it for, and not on gambling. But the most important thing is to walk the person through on how to gamble responsibly, that's i the person still wants to continue. But to some, it is all about healing their mental state entirely away from gambling, which will be more important at first as they stay away from gambling at that time. But if they would want to gamble again, fine. That later time might now be with their better sense of maturity and awareness of the bad side of gambling, not the way they engaged the risky activity before. If at all, all that family and friends tried to do in this regard didn't work, an external help is advised here, which could include prayer if the case is severe.

correct , because no matter what you do but the person is still not ready to accept any help then we will go back from the beginning and will always lose the battle , because this issue is about the involved person how to trust the system , because it is not in our hands to decide but them so I agree on your point and I know that you understand the situation.

Well, treating an addicted gambler, how ever or what ever be the mindset of the person in question, how ever he or she tend to believe or react to things doesn't really matter, because treatment for addiction is always channelled towards the brain, addiction in gambling is something the brain learned to do without, so the treatment here is channelled towards the gambler psychology mentality and so on, it's all about trying to get the brain to learn to do some thing else more productive and not to depend totally on gambling in a way that if the it does drive the host to gamble, and the host doesn't, then it causes stress and lack of focus for the host - the host here is the body, the owner of the brain.

And also, on the other hand, addiction also means that the person have lost control over his or her own brain, note we are not supposed to allow our brain control us or what we do, we are supposed to be the ones to tell our brain what we want to do not our brain telling us what we should do, so, if one gets to that stage where he or she no longer can tell his or her brain "no, I don't wanna gamble now" and the brain accept it and be comfortable with it, it simply means that such person have lost control over his or her brains. - So in treating such person, it also involves teaching the gambler to take back control from his or her brain, and not to allow the brain to rule over him or her.

All this have little to nothing to do with how a person reacts to issues and so on.

I understand and don`t understand it the same time. I know that it is possible and can`t understand how it is possible.
But i think that it is true that their is self-esteem is low. And they need to begin doing something themselves - they can get their family support and i think that it must be enough for start. I don`t want to spend any resources(time, money, food - doesn`t matter) for someone, who just lose it. I can help when he show that he is ready to struggle, not else.

Those people who are going through this problem, because they need a lot of support, from what I have read, when they find themselves in that situation, the person whose self-esteem is low, they usually think of pure play and doing things so that they can establish themselves so that They have a better way to play, they look for or devise a way to get money to play in the casino, all the time they think that if they had had more money they would have won big, and all those things get into a person's head. addicted, therefore I can say that it is delicate, and for me something very delicate.

The treatment is sometimes not so simple, it depends a lot on the type of person, their personality, how they experience the problems, how they react to them, not everyone has the same reaction to problems and stress, some people. It gives them heart attacks, because they don't know how to handle themselves and that's how to channel it, it's difficult, and you have to treat it with great care and delicacy.

Drawing out some conclusions basing up on what majority behavior are showing then he do have a point that it cant just work or possible but its true that it doesnt mean that people would be neglecting it out.
We are humans on which we do really have that different approach into things on which there are moments which might be known about on the risks but we do just simply ignore it and continue on what we are doing.
Self control is relevant but just been said  that not all people would really be having the capacity on doing so or simply not just enough because they cant just really not able to do so.
This is why alternative actions or methods or ways would really be something that needed up to be done instead.

Staking method is also that viable or could be possible on stopping yourself on playing gambling but it would really be that so damn hard on trying out
to make it happen specially if you do still have money left in your pocket on which you would be finding ways to play again.

I can talk only about myself. I don`t understand what is gambling addiction. I read about it, but to understand i have to feel it. And around me i see the same - no one gambling addict. That`s why i think that it is impossible. But we see news about gambling addicts, it means that it is possible. That`s why we are talking about it. May be i`m rude, but i think that it is only their problem - gambling addicts and their family. They must solve this problem themselves, without help of community. We can only give advice. It is awful to read about such situations but they have to solve it themselves - first of all because they have to understand that it is a problem.

OP, I think you are the one that is wrong here, maybe you wanted to say that it is not everybody who will be able to attain the level of self-control in gambling, and not that self-control is not enough, it is absolutely enough to keep gamblers in check. If you can control yourself about gambling, what else do you need? Locking the money for days? Hahaha, that is what I can term wrong, not self-control. What I would like you to know is that gambling addiction as it implies is a thing of psychology, the same goes for self-control, and not the self-exclusion that will only deny the gambler of that particular money in your case but will not heal the addiction itself. What tells you that the gambler will not go behind the back of your type of scheme to gamble again with other available money? This shows that he can only deceive himself in your own way because it never heals the psychology of the guy but only tries to force him to keep the money somewhere and not touch it.

But for self-control, if one can attain it, there will be no need to bother about the self-exclusion of a thing, you will be able to avoid what you do not want in gambling because you have your own mind and you can control yourself. This also means that the person is disciplined enough to control himself on what he wants and what he doesn't want in gambling. I do not think there's a better bargain for gamblers than this. But the only issue is how to be self-disciplined to have self-control enforced. It is not often easy for many to achieve.

Self control is not enough for many, this is just wrong.

When things get tougher on us from without, we are going to finally finds out way back home to the family as the last hope, so why can't we give them the very attention they may require from us,, listen to them and value their unique presence together with us, it also annoys that you will see some gambler who don't care about their relatives and when they win, they enjoy spending all their money with outsiders which is very bad.

You wont really be needing any exclusions if you are really that just simply making yourself that having self control. You wont really be needing those kind of steps to be done
if you are really just that mindful about those things specially on doing the right one then you wont really be ending up on disastrous thing on which there are really just those people who
are really cant be able to control themselves and ended up on making those bad decisions in life because of something that they cant really be able to make viable
decisions in life. This is why it would really be that best that you should really know at least on whats good and whats bad.It all matters with self control.

Yes, it is always good to have an idea that there are people who are very Particular about things in order to have money, and of course, there are Many who Always go to the casino with those excuses, to have fun, enjoy and do any type of thing , They may feel better playing any type of game, but what they don't have is order in their weekends, if there is no order in our money for a casino, things become like an ant, because without self-knowledge things can go down quickly, for example. That's when we are looking for ways to clearly have a correct perspective on the casinos and know how to play so we don't get discouraged, in this order of ideas we must have the calm so that when we sit down to play, we don't lose our patience. In each game session we can determine how we can work , if we are not Clear about how we are going to play things can Translate into many Losses.

That is why I have Always said that the best strategy for these Things will always be for us to do things Better , that is, to allocate our money Willing to lose , not to go over that Money and try to enjoy, if you lose what you have to and assume that If you lose and if you win, well, you have to withdraw, you don't have to think about it, it's simple, you just have to make the right decision and do the right thing, but with the money, there is no other way, if we do things well with our Money Well, we will not have problems at all, however without money in a casino things will always go Wrong , this is something logical, for this we have to assume that we must be very aware that when we are in a casino things must be treated in a way different , I personally will always say that if we don't take care of the Money in the casino , no one will take care of it for us, and that we are the owners of our actions.

I have always said that when it comes to gambling, it's important for gamblers to know exactly what they want to avoid conflict of interest.
For example, some gamblers say that they are just gambling for fun, but when they lose money, we see them making more and more depositing in a bid to try to recover that which they have lost, in such a situation, the gambler have shifted from his or her main interest in gambling, which is to just have fun, to chasing after wins, which is money.

Most of gamblers in this category most times end up in regrets because first, their inability to stick to their gambling interest shows lack of discipline and will power to sticking to his or her decisions.
So, for me, this is one area I also think gambler need to watch it.

Hope that it is just easy as that , but I Know how hard to exclude yourself from site because indeed that it is easy to act but to stand on that? are we really gonna have this for long because the many gamblers that tries tooo do such ended being a loser and going back to the addiction.

Self determination , and self perseverance that will save us all and will make us all to the plan and outcome.

If a gambler can control his emotions and have a discipline then one thing for sure It is A very good. Because we are all know that gambler don't spend too much time and money like you mate, cause what's in your mind is you will gamble for fun only and you don't mind if you will lose or win cause you gamble what you afford to lose and that is a very good example. But still it depends on the gambler itself if he will have a discipline or not cause if not then addiction will come for sure.