Topic: How to self exclude from anonymous gambling sites - page 19. (Read 4866 times)

When it comes to staking, it wont be that much effective considering that unstaking option is really that available so its pointless.If there would really be some lock ups then you can really make yourself that prohibit for you to play but as long you do know that you do still have other money source then you would really be just basically be trying out to play again and again as long your gambling urge and interest would be there
then stopping cant be possible.It would really be just that depending on how you do treat gambling whether it is really just that for the sake of fun and entertainment or you are already that making things
to be some source of income. Once you do get yourself that addicted then getting out of it would really be that so hard, this is why you should really be that careful in the first place on this case.

It is very rare that people listen to others when it comes to this as they will feel judged, and they will think that you are overstepping their boundaries by doing something like this, so even if you were correct on your observations about their gambling habits, you can bet they will continue to gamble as usual, and even if at some point they realize they had a problem you can be sure they will not remember that you tried to help them before things got out of control.

Many people would disagree with that, this is simply not true.


You're right, might be a good thing they've changed it but until recently they've literally done as described here, allowing anyone to register with an instant link, 0 details to be provided, could easily gamble 5 digits with no questions asked. Let's see how the new site would operate. Hopefully it would be more "responsible" than what it is but no one knows yet.

If you're a gambler, then control and manage how you're gambling before it get worse to the extreme stage, also, if you're privileged to see someone gambling in the wrong direction, take it a responsibility to call them into order, some things were better done or dealt with in the early stage before they got worsened, having desires for gambling is not getting yourself harmed by gambling because if ignorance or lack of self control while gambling, the gambling platforms will not control you, it's your own responsibility to do so for yourself.

Yes, that's exactly what it is, there won't be any accusations because they are Pinnacle clones, Pinnacle supposedly doesn't limit winners but use "sharp bettors" to adjust lines and more (adjusting means instead of paying 1.95 they can pay 1.90 and still get the same action but save themselves 5%).

It shouldn't come to you as a surprise that sportsbooks or gambling sites play it dirty, look at what Drama Alert shared yesterday, it has gotten over 4 million views and it's only increasing... just a few hours ago it was 2 million views:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/is-stake-playing-fair-what-about-others-where-is-the-line-of-trust-here-5480777

You can't trust these establishments, this is why you need to have the control within you from your end, and don't rely on others! That's the purpose of this thread.

If you do try to understand the sentence about in between stable coins and other crypto then it wouldnt matter on which as long whats available then you would really be simply stake those amounts.
If you do see that stablecoins are the only available on which you can stake then you could really make out those conversions if you are really that serious on staking those funds just for the sake
on avoiding for you to play with gambling but if not then you wouldnt care as you could really be able to play again on the money that you do have. Some sites do offer exclusions on which there would neither be a duration or would be completely deleted or prohibiting you on playing but since creating new account would be so damn easy then this is why i can say that
self exclusions are really that useless or not really that effective at all.

There are gamblers who just thinks that they can commit into stop doing gambling but the next day, they will play again as they can't control themselves. There are days that gamblers are sure that they will stop doing gambling to the point that they withdraw their money from the casino. With this, gamblers can stake their money with no choice but to wait for their money even if they change their mind into playing again. The gamblers will have time to reflect if they are ready to commit into quitting gambling with this way.

Though there are downsides to this, if a gambler is desperate to gamble again, I'm sure that he will deposit with another money just to gamble again. Though I believe that this staking method is a good option that gambler that want to quit.

Fairlay registration function is close for a long time unless they open it recently or provide other way to access their site just like what you said. Can you provide where can I access that instant link feature?

I try to click one of their bets offered and it still needs to still create an account which is non functional now. Besides, There’s a terms on this casino stated “When registering, you’ll may have to provide certain identifying information”.

I’m pertaining to fairlay.com

really ? Fairlay allows everything you mentioned? but asking nothing for the player will
serve really fair? is there no accusation  in regards to blocking account or banning?because this is mostly
what happened when the casino is complete private .

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Going back to the topic why instead of self inclusion is Block that site so you will never
gonna play again? because self inclusions only makes you stay out for a while then may consider coming
back again in the future.

Pushing the button to start the staking is where the problem is at, remember that a heart that's filled with the excitement of gambling is already craving to gamble again, it would be different someone else is going to keep pushing that button, but the gambler will still have to make the decision.

I personally do not buy this idea because it depends on the gambler's mind, if he is serious on quitting gambling he or she will do this easily, but if he is the type that has weak mind he won't be able to lock away his money for long, even if he did it once, after the staking period is over he will surely use the fund to gamble.

Like you said, staking is a big problem if you are not using stable coin, because alternative coins are highly volatile, they can lose value so much that when you unstake your whole bag will be worthless, this is the only bad side of staking alts.

Fairlay.
They allow you to register with an "instant link", no email, no name, no phone, not even a password required.

Their limits are high.
And they are just 1 example.

There are many more, unfortunately.

It is possible to exclude yourself in the way OP said, but unfortunately, as OP said, you cannot use stable coins to distance yourself from the risk of fluctuating crypto prices.
In my opinion, whatever method a person uses to exclude themselves is very good, but it all comes back to the desire and commitment of each gambler because it would be in vain if a gambler staked the budget he has because if his mind still has the desire to gamble, of course he has other methods such as tried to gamble, borrowed a little money from a friend and gambled secretly.
A strong desire is an important role for gamblers who want to reduce their gambling activities so that in any way gamblers can very easily limit themselves so that they get into the habit of not gambling too often.

It is silly enough. You can get KYC when you need your money fast and wait for a week or even a month until you KYC. You can get some problems with KYC and just lose all your money. The best way is to initiate KYC by yourself if it is possible. Of course if you want to gamble in this casino for a long time and you don`t plan to cheat.

Self exclusion feature is indeed that available on some platforms but some dont really have on which means you would really be needing to do it externally on which it would really be just that depending
on how you would really be that making yourself taking up such step on which those options you had mentioned are indeed other ways on making yourself that be able to avoid those potential
impulsive gambling activity on which if you are really that mindful about on quitting gambling or having some break then it would really be just that normal that you would be serious on doing it.
On the time that you do find yourself be dealing again with gambling just because you had bypassed those restrictions or really finding up way for you to play no matter what
then its a solid indication that you are already addicted into it.

    I think it’s all left for the person to decide what he want to become, we all have choices to make in whatever we do. It’s that self discipline that makes one more coordinated than the other. Why will we want gambling to take control of us when we are the one to be in control instead. People can actually fight through this gambling addiction, with just self discipline and control any body can beat addiction.  Your idea is very much valid too because even the Bible says if the right hand is causing you to sin, caught it off. Cutting off your engagement with anything associated to gambling is one way help in controlling gambling addiction.
   Freezing up funds in site is not really enough, because if you really want to cut down habit, you shouldn’t be having money in your gambling sites. You can use the money for other things, if you want to stay off gambling, stay off for good. Keeping the money there can really be tempting to begin gambling again. Best thing to do for yourself to prevent spending more time in gambling site, is to delete the site from your device. This is a really a great step in dealing with addiction.  Nothing is impossible for sure, we can also be better and do better. We just need to be true to ourselves.

Allow me to say a few words about this problem.  And this is one of the global problems, namely the possibility of anonymous payments in cryptocurrency.  And this, of course, concerns the interests of millions of gambling and casino players around the world.  These players may have many reasons why it is vital for them to remain anonymous.  These reasons can be of a family nature, or concealment of information from the employer, or national prohibitions on gambling.  And now the implementation of KYC everywhere deprives such players of the opportunity to gamble.
 And the theses of my posts, including here on the forum, briefly consist in the fact that humanity as a whole has already matured to the full legalization of the possibility of anonymous payments and finally a jurisdiction similar to at least Curacao should appear, which will issue licenses on completely legal grounds  for the activities of crypto casinos with a 100% guarantee of no KYC under any circumstances, including, of course, when paying out big winnings to happy players.  I think that such a casino can not only arouse interest among cryptocurrency owners, but even become very popular, even cause some excitement in a good sense. 
Unfortunately, everyone is still afraid of USA hegemony in such licensing issues.
 But, obviously, the world is changing and soon many countries will not give a damn about this fact.  Then such jurisdiction may appear.

Bravo! How is this bad advice when it is what I am doing and has been working for me for decades? I started this with online brokers and companies and it has been saving me from what negatively affects others later. I have witnessed many stories of people who didn't do the KYC from the beginning but had problems with the company they dealt with later, especially when they wanted to withdraw money, particularly a sizable amount of it. You see, we have to be smart and I do not know why doing KYC is too hard for some of you when you are not criminals. But most of you are doing the KYC elsewhere on a daily basis, you are only faking it. As the world is now, it is revolving, you will hardly hide anywhere without KYC unless you want to deal with companies that are not reputable or less reputable.

Also, your argument is only valid for the no-KYC casinos, and by this, the person would have known that it is not required. But for those casinos that could be silent about it while other customers of the same casinos are doing the KYC, you might put yourself in trouble if you do not do it on time, unless you are a loser. Maybe you are not a winning gambler, that is why you are talking like this. But if you are a winning gambler, you should never leave any stone unturned, and even if you later have issues with your casinos due to their overbearing attitude, you would know that you did what you have to do from the onset. By the way, let me ask you, have you seen a casino that is not no-KYC and is fully registered and regulated that will let you continue to play forever without KYC? If you answer this with proof, maybe we can step our discussion further.

Of course, the exception itself is a temporary solution to the problem.
 As for the productive mental work of such a player, this really seems to be able to help him and a little drown out thoughts about gambling.
 But as for the good, everyday direction of development of the gambling industry, there is precisely a problem.  It’s just that most gambling manufacturers, in my opinion, are aimed at tough competition and often associated with violence in the virtual space.  Apparently these are the aspects that still attract more players. 
The spirit of competition and destruction of a defeated enemy is held in high esteem.  Game producers will justify this by the very bestial nature of man. 
Therefore, such a good everyday type of games is typical only for children.  For adult players it's different.

Most gamblers who have gambled too often have probably experienced a loss of self-control in gambling, so they only increase their problems even more. If they don't immediately solve their problems one by one, they will only get deeper into gambling without being able to get out of gambling. If they really want to exclude themselves from gambling, they must really be able to control themselves well and be able to get rid of the desire to gamble. If they can do that, they can use the self-exclusion feature well and they won't even use that feature but control themselves. That will help him reduce his desire to gamble.

Most of the sites don't have self-exclusion options.

The only was it to Delete the app.

self-excluding from anonymous gambling sites can be tricky,

Contact Support: Reach out to the site's customer support if possible and explain your situation.

Financial Blocks: Ask your bank or payment provider if they can block transactions to gambling sites.

Self-Regulation: Check if the site has self-exclusion tools or limits in its settings.