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Topic: Humans Gamble since 3000BC, and Governments still try to ban - page 2. (Read 757 times)

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Most governments actually encourage gambling as long as it is done through legal channels and mostly state run lotteries.  They pull in a huge amount of revenue from the lottery and gullible people continue to buy those tickets not knowing the astronomical odds of winning.
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Historically gambling in the earlier days was much important for the kings. Most of the time it happens as a fight between two men. The winner will be given rewards, and further this was being used by common people playing between themselves challenging each other. The further progress is what we call as gambling. During the days of king rule this wasn't much played and didn't affected the common people's life.

As days passed gambling changed to be a business and more people out of greed and earning big in a short took risk and this ruined the living. This is why we've got more countries to ban gambling.
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I think what the government's trying to do is to protect its citizens from involving in these addicting games were the main reasons why most of the people are getting poor. Just imagine the effect of it after they were done playing it is something that someone has to win and someone had to lose. With that said, it is not totally helpful. Let those illegal gamblers if they don't want to follow they will gonna pay for it if they get caught.

Here in my country, gambling is prohibited because of pressure from some members of the public who say that gambling violates religious rules. Gambling used to be legal, but because of the pressure, the government has to ban it. However at this time there are still many people who gamble secretly.
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Here is a list I found with 10 countries where gambling is completely illegal.

United Arab Emirates
Brunei
Cambodia
North Korea
Japan
Singapura
Cyprus
Qatar
Lebanon
Poland
source:https://www.lawyer-monthly.com/2018/02/10-countries-where-gambling-is-completely-illegal/


The problem I see is that gambling is something humans always did. It is something in the human nature. We always ignore probability and think "I will be luck now, just once, and I will make money here" or something like that.

I looked at wikipedia, people gamble since 3000BC!

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Gambling dates back to the Paleolithic period, before written history. In Mesopotamia the earliest six-sided dice date to about 3000 BC. However, they were based on astragali dating back thousands of years earlier. In China, gambling houses were widespread in the first millennium BC, and betting on fighting animals was common. Lotto games and dominoes (precursors of Pai Gow) appeared in China as early as the 10th century.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambling

If government ban gambling, people will gamble illegally. Just like prohibiting drugs, people will still use drugs illegally,
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We nee to respect the decision of the that 10 country's the official didn't want to get ear profits from the gambling company and law from that country is enforce strict. Now this chance of the people residing in that 10 country to play gambling via online site using crypto. And the history about gambling from time of BC is that true people gamble but the god tell to people gamble is sin(refference bible) every states have a choices for the better of their country so we need to respect believes.
legendary
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I don't understand exactly why some governments ban gambling. Is it like a babysitter government, trying to protect citizens from themselves? Or are they worried about something else?


If you look at your list, you can notice that all those governments have some things in common - they are very conservative, many of them are authoritarian, some are ultrareligious. So, they ban gambling because they ban a ton of other things, because they like controlling every aspect of their citizens lives. And I don't think they simply try to ban it, countries like North Korea can ban things very effectively, because they imprison or kill whole families for slightest missteps.

As gambling is highly profitable, government could make a lot of money by taxing those companies.

That's what the rest of the governments do.
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I think what the government's trying to do is to protect its citizens from involving in these addicting games were the main reasons why most of the people are getting poor. Just imagine the effect of it after they were done playing it is something that someone has to win and someone had to lose. With that said, it is not totally helpful. Let those illegal gamblers if they don't want to follow they will gonna pay for it if they get caught.
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Gambling is ban to some countries because of religion or culture, in some countries, gambling is considered a sin that people are prohibited to do it and thus the government banning it. We may think it’s stupid to ban something that can be as profitable as gambling but it’s their belief or it’s part of their culture so we can’t judge them.
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As you can see most of the countries in that list are Muslim country and I believe it is because gambling is Prohibited in “Koran” as those governments are religiously run

With due respect maybe it’s better to look for the countries that wasn’t run by religion so we can find much better arguments on why and what’s the reason behind banning of gambling

I do not know how can you relate the gambling to the religion and among the countries mentioned by the OP only United Arab Emirates, Qatar and Lebanon are Muslims countries and the rest of the countries are non-Muslims.
I think its government decision of making gambling legal or illegal and it has nothing to do with the religion.


Here is a list I found with 10 countries where gambling is completely illegal.
United Arab Emirates
Brunei
Cambodia
North Korea
Japan
Singapura
Cyprus
Qatar
Lebanon
Poland
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Here in Brazil casinos are illegal, but we can have lottery tickets, some private lottery and we are in a mid term about online gambling, we don't have any kind of regulation (and this is one of the best thing about crypto casinos, because it's different in the law, at least here)

I think every person should be responsible for their money, and there's no problem with gambling if the casinos or campanies have their own regulations

If all types of gambling are illegal, then online gambling (including sites that accept cryptocurrency) is also illegal. You won't face any issue unless you win some really big amount. But if that happens, it may be a headache to fill the tax returns. You can't say that you won the amount through gambling. They'll just send you a tax notice with 100% or 200% penalty.

It varies from county to country. If you are using vpn and bitcoin while playing online gambling in a country where the gambling is prohibited, maybe you never get caught and no government will know how much you are earning. The taxes are on the legal money which is declared in tax returns and there will be no taxes on illegal money.
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As you can see most of the countries in that list are Muslim country and I believe it is because gambling is Prohibited in “Koran” as those governments are religiously run

With due respect maybe it’s better to look for the countries that wasn’t run by religion so we can find much better arguments on why and what’s the reason behind banning of gambling
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I think the reason for the government to ban gambling is good. They don't want to see people lose their money in the gambling table, and they come back to their house without any money. The government wants to prevent people become poor by playing gambling, but they cannot ban gambling itself because people will use the other way to still playing gambling. With the ease of the internet connection everywhere, people can easily to visit on the online gambling games if they cannot gamble by offline. They will use the VPN to access the gambling site, and they can use cryptocurrency to stay hiding from the government. The government needs to realize about this so they will think about the other thing to reduces the number of people who were playing gambling in their country.
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Here in Brazil casinos are illegal, but we can have lottery tickets, some private lottery and we are in a mid term about online gambling, we don't have any kind of regulation (and this is one of the best thing about crypto casinos, because it's different in the law, at least here)

I think every person should be responsible for their money, and there's no problem with gambling if the casinos or campanies have their own regulations

If all types of gambling are illegal, then online gambling (including sites that accept cryptocurrency) is also illegal. You won't face any issue unless you win some really big amount. But if that happens, it may be a headache to fill the tax returns. You can't say that you won the amount through gambling. They'll just send you a tax notice with 100% or 200% penalty.
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As you can see in the list you have brought to us, all of the countries mentioned above are somewhat in a great condition. What I mean is they are rich countries, so furthermore countries that are somehow not stated above and allows gambling in their vicinity: the obvious is that they most likely poor countries and populated. If that's the case then somehow those countries above have maintained law and order in their place and less crimes are done. A good government is trying to stop it's citizens from being destroyed and a bad government will let you gamble all you want and  all that they care is profits from you, not caring on what you may become later on.
Neither a rich or poor country it doesn't matter.Regulation or prohibiting gambling into their vicinity does depend on them on what they do look towards gambling.

Caring for its citizens is just a propaganda and not totally having the concern.They do have other reason why some countries do ban them and majority are still
on neutral side.
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Here in Brazil casinos are illegal, but we can have lottery tickets, some private lottery and we are in a mid term about online gambling, we don't have any kind of regulation (and this is one of the best thing about crypto casinos, because it's different in the law, at least here)

I think every person should be responsible for their money, and there's no problem with gambling if the casinos or campanies have their own regulations
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As you can see in the list you have brought to us, all of the countries mentioned above are somewhat in a great condition. What I mean is they are rich countries, so furthermore countries that are somehow not stated above and allows gambling in their vicinity: the obvious is that they most likely poor countries and populated. If that's the case then somehow those countries above have maintained law and order in their place and less crimes are done. A good government is trying to stop it's citizens from being destroyed and a bad government will let you gamble all you want and  all that they care is profits from you, not caring on what you may become later on.
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Yes in China any form of gambling activities is illegal but their government runs two official lotteries which is the only option for the people from china to gamle with their money or they can go over seas and gamble there.But people from China normally visit Hong Kong to experience gambling practices.
I think they don't need to come to Hong Kong to gamble as they can do it online, just don't know how they manipulate it so they can't be detective by the authorities. In the Philippines some Chinese businessmen set-up online casinos as it is legal here but their customers are mostly Chinese. Lately the Chinese government is urging the Philippines to ban gambling as what Cambodia did.
Those Chinese businessman who set up their gambling site from other countries are just trying to make much bigger profits as they can runaway from the government taxes, it's a good options doing offshores and targeting the same audience, they can deal online and earned bigger than what they can get when it's been setup inside their Homeland.
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I don't understand exactly why some governments ban gambling. Is it like a babysitter government, trying to protect citizens from themselves? Or are they worried about something else?
As gambling is highly profitable, government could make a lot of money by taxing those companies.

Here is a list I found with 10 countries where gambling is completely illegal.

United Arab Emirates
Brunei
Cambodia
North Korea
Japan
Singapura
Cyprus
Qatar
Lebanon
Poland
source:https://www.lawyer-monthly.com/2018/02/10-countries-where-gambling-is-completely-illegal/


The problem I see is that gambling is something humans always did. It is something in the human nature. We always ignore probability and think "I will be luck now, just once, and I will make money here" or something like that.

I looked at wikipedia, people gamble since 3000BC!

Quote
Gambling dates back to the Paleolithic period, before written history. In Mesopotamia the earliest six-sided dice date to about 3000 BC. However, they were based on astragali dating back thousands of years earlier. In China, gambling houses were widespread in the first millennium BC, and betting on fighting animals was common. Lotto games and dominoes (precursors of Pai Gow) appeared in China as early as the 10th century.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambling

If government ban gambling, people will gamble illegally. Just like prohibiting drugs, people will still use drugs illegally,

So if anything is going on for ages and governments fail to ban it, they should make it legal ? Should they also make drugs legal just because people will not stop using it Huh
The ban at least give some sort of restrictions and almost 50% of the people will follow the ban and will not try to do it illegally. The governments better know why and how gambling and drugs can be harmful for the people.
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There are two reasons, they want it monitored and regulated because this is a good source of revenues, they are banning gambling that does not have licensed, another reason is they want total control of the wealth of their people like they do in North Korea or they are ultra-religious people and it is forbidden according to their holy book.

No government can really stop gambling its part of our nature, either they imposed a stiff penalty or they regulate it
So far regulation is the most popular because it's a multi-billion dollar business, and there are cities built for gambling only.
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Yes in China any form of gambling activities is illegal but their government runs two official lotteries which is the only option for the people from china to gamle with their money or they can go over seas and gamble there.But people from China normally visit Hong Kong to experience gambling practices.
I think they don't need to come to Hong Kong to gamble as they can do it online, just don't know how they manipulate it so they can't be detective by the authorities. In the Philippines some Chinese businessmen set-up online casinos as it is legal here but their customers are mostly Chinese. Lately the Chinese government is urging the Philippines to ban gambling as what Cambodia did.
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I think you got the wrong idea. I am certain that gambling in Japan are not all illegal, mostly yes but still people can gamble and have fun but mostly it comes to sports betting and lottery.

Gambling highly involves laundering and addiction problem (which somehow the government can't fix and thinking that the best possible option is just to ban it entirely).
 
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If government ban gambling, people will gamble illegally. Just like prohibiting drugs, people will still use drugs illegally,
Even if gambling will becomes legal there can still be "illegal" form of gambling. Are you saying that we should also allow the use of drugs so it will not be used illegally even if the addict can hurt somebody? that is completely irrational
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