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The bans no longer work. The world has become smaller and more interconnected, thanks to internet. If gambling is banned in a certain country, then the user can just use a VPN and join a gambling site which is based in some country where it is completely legal. Or they can just travel to those countries and visit the casinos themselves.
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I don't understand exactly why some governments ban gambling. Is it like a babysitter government, trying to protect citizens from themselves? Or are they worried about something else?

Probably they worrying because mostly gamblers can do crime to feed their addiction wherein like drugs they will do anything to gain more money for gamble. And the sad things is some gamblers always forget their obligation on their family because they're concentrated of winning money.

 Im not saying all... but this is truly exist on some gamblers because of addiction.  Probably that's why goverment trying to banned all the gambling site.

We cannot deny that because gambling is indeed related to crimes cause some of them play beyond the limits. Governments only do what they are supposed to do with the intention of protecting their people to avoid it.
Not really because they are not doing anything to protect people from the crimes but they are restricting gambling just because criminals also might doing gambling such a non sense thought right.But banning will result into underworld gambling industry to grow and also governments will lose the taxes from the gambling industry so it is always better to regulate than banning.
Just because some people who commit crimes in gambling then generalize that gambling is bad because there are people who commit crimes, that is the wrong choice from the government. Gambling should not be banned, because today many people are smart in dealing with losses in gambling. if there are some people who commit crimes, not gamble which is prohibited, but make education for them about the risk of gambling, its will be better.
If governments make money from the gambling casinos then they won't care about who is playing or losing their life on it but many casinos are not reporting the right tax amounts and also personal hate with the leaders might cause them to be banned totally.
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Let us not forget that after 3000BC there were horrible things that occurred and the Governments have still banned them
1 thing that comes to my mind immediately is slavery in America and Europe 
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I don't understand exactly why some governments ban gambling. Is it like a babysitter government, trying to protect citizens from themselves? Or are they worried about something else?

Probably they worrying because mostly gamblers can do crime to feed their addiction wherein like drugs they will do anything to gain more money for gamble. And the sad things is some gamblers always forget their obligation on their family because they're concentrated of winning money.

 Im not saying all... but this is truly exist on some gamblers because of addiction.  Probably that's why goverment trying to banned all the gambling site.

We cannot deny that because gambling is indeed related to crimes cause some of them play beyond the limits. Governments only do what they are supposed to do with the intention of protecting their people to avoid it.
Not really because they are not doing anything to protect people from the crimes but they are restricting gambling just because criminals also might doing gambling such a non sense thought right.But banning will result into underworld gambling industry to grow and also governments will lose the taxes from the gambling industry so it is always better to regulate than banning.
Just because some people who commit crimes in gambling then generalize that gambling is bad because there are people who commit crimes, that is the wrong choice from the government. Gambling should not be banned, because today many people are smart in dealing with losses in gambling. if there are some people who commit crimes, not gamble which is prohibited, but make education for them about the risk of gambling, its will be better.
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Banning or prohibited because it is illegal I think they are the same. I did not saw a country of China, they are banning gambling on their place, so it means, it is obviously illegal. Maybe the government wanted to protect their citizen not being addicted to gambling because there are some others did not control their selves, it makes continuously making a profit even though that is not right. Different country has different rules and regulation so you must to obey.
Yes in China any form of gambling activities is illegal but their government runs two official lotteries which is the only option for the people from china to gamle with their money or they can go over seas and gamble there.But people from China normally visit Hong Kong to experience gambling practices.

Source : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambling_in_China
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Banning or prohibited because it is illegal I think they are the same. I did not saw a country of China, they are banning gambling on their place, so it means, it is obviously illegal. Maybe the government wanted to protect their citizen not being addicted to gambling because there are some others did not control their selves, it makes continuously making a profit even though that is not right. Different country has different rules and regulation so you must to obey.
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I don't understand exactly why some governments ban gambling. Is it like a babysitter government, trying to protect citizens from themselves? Or are they worried about something else?
As gambling is highly profitable, government could make a lot of money by taxing those companies.

Here is a list I found with 10 countries where gambling is completely illegal.

United Arab Emirates
Brunei
Cambodia
North Korea
Japan
Singapura
Cyprus
Qatar
Lebanon
Poland
source:https://www.lawyer-monthly.com/2018/02/10-countries-where-gambling-is-completely-illegal/


The problem I see is that gambling is something humans always did. It is something in the human nature. We always ignore probability and think "I will be luck now, just once, and I will make money here" or something like that.

I looked at wikipedia, people gamble since 3000BC!

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Gambling dates back to the Paleolithic period, before written history. In Mesopotamia the earliest six-sided dice date to about 3000 BC. However, they were based on astragali dating back thousands of years earlier. In China, gambling houses were widespread in the first millennium BC, and betting on fighting animals was common. Lotto games and dominoes (precursors of Pai Gow) appeared in China as early as the 10th century.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambling

If government ban gambling, people will gamble illegally. Just like prohibiting drugs, people will still use drugs illegally,
As far as I know governments prohibits gambling mainly for two reasons, the first reason is that they are trying to protect a segment of the population that will easily get addicted to gambling and lose their money, the problem with this approach is that those people will still lose their money by gambling in an illegal casino or will lose it in some other way, the second reason is that casinos tend to attract crime to the community, so the police department needs to receive more money from the government or criminal activities could get out of control, obviously this is not a problem for online gambling but governments do not like it because the money goes out of the community or even the country and never comes back.
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By trying to ban gambling, you're just letting money go out of your country. Take a look at all those Arab countries. Do their citizens stop gambling? No, they just go online. (For some reason I kept hearing Bahrain when it comes to gambling though)

Same for the Chinese. Mainlanders would just go to Macau and now that CCP is trying to "wean" Macau off gambling, where do you think they'll go? Yeah, just other Asian countries. It's so high demand for the Chinese that you see Chinese companies going abroad to build casinos just to accommodate all those gamblers.
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Guys i didn't made that list of banned countries, just shared it.
It is good to see so many people from those countries mentioned, so you can guys can tell if the list is wrong or not.


From the list of countries you mentioned in OP,I have been on UAE and Brunei,not sure about the UAE but on other Arab counties it were prohibited and also in Brunei it was made illegal by their Sulthan since its against Sharia law.
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The governments know that gambling can cause family separation, job losses and money laundering. Hence any government should take such a move. Obviously, if the Government puts a tax on those casinos, it will be a profit for them, but at the cost of others lives? That's just too selfish!
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Guys i didn't made that list of banned countries, just shared it.
It is good to see so many people from those countries mentioned, so you can guys can tell if the list is wrong or not.

That list was just an example to support my argument that governments try to ban gamble in some places.

Here in Brazil casinos are illegal, the only gamble which is legal is made by the government (a lotery)
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I don't understand exactly why some governments ban gambling. Is it like a babysitter government, trying to protect citizens from themselves? Or are they worried about something else?

Probably they worrying because mostly gamblers can do crime to feed their addiction wherein like drugs they will do anything to gain more money for gamble. And the sad things is some gamblers always forget their obligation on their family because they're concentrated of winning money.

 Im not saying all... but this is truly exist on some gamblers because of addiction.  Probably that's why goverment trying to banned all the gambling site.

We cannot deny that because gambling is indeed related to crimes cause some of them play beyond the limits. Governments only do what they are supposed to do with the intention of protecting their people to avoid it.
Not really because they are not doing anything to protect people from the crimes but they are restricting gambling just because criminals also might doing gambling such a non sense thought right.But banning will result into underworld gambling industry to grow and also governments will lose the taxes from the gambling industry so it is always better to regulate than banning.
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Its kind of funny though to see how successive governments that have come into play try as much to want to ban gambling and they have continually fail in it. I think what happens to majority of governments is those whose way of governance are guided by religious connotations and because the religious book didn't change they are forced to abide by it even though they themselves knows the potential of regulations and the amount of money that could be generated from such endeavor.

For the liberal ones, they are gradually changing with rules and regulations in place to ensure that its done within the ambits of the law.
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I don't understand exactly why some governments ban gambling. Is it like a babysitter government, trying to protect citizens from themselves? Or are they worried about something else?

Probably they worrying because mostly gamblers can do crime to feed their addiction wherein like drugs they will do anything to gain more money for gamble. And the sad things is some gamblers always forget their obligation on their family because they're concentrated of winning money.

 Im not saying all... but this is truly exist on some gamblers because of addiction.  Probably that's why goverment trying to banned all the gambling site.

We cannot deny that because gambling is indeed related to crimes cause some of them play beyond the limits. Governments only do what they are supposed to do with the intention of protecting their people to avoid it.
sr. member
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I don't understand exactly why some governments ban gambling. Is it like a babysitter government, trying to protect citizens from themselves? Or are they worried about something else?

Probably they worrying because mostly gamblers can do crime to feed their addiction wherein like drugs they will do anything to gain more money for gamble. And the sad things is some gamblers always forget their obligation on their family because they're concentrated of winning money.

 Im not saying all... but this is truly exist on some gamblers because of addiction.  Probably that's why goverment trying to banned all the gambling site.
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I think they are thinking that it is better to ban them than people getting addicted to it, and I don't think that will help some.

There are a lot of people wanting to gamble and even if it is illegal, people would gamble illegally. They will hide, find themselves a place they can part their cards in and bet them money. Why don't they just legalized gambling and put a good taxes on casinos or gambling places so they don't need to think about it since it will be the responsibility of the gambler and not them.
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The banning of gambling companies under certain jurisdiction can be certainly compared with banning of cryptocurrencies globally at some of the major countries by the government. In the latter case, the government is afraid of their citizens being adapted themselves to the digital currencies and their own currency might become devalued in the future. Regarding the legality of gambling, there are comparatively pros and cons when people gamble with their money. When luck and certain strategies favour gamblers they win a lot of money and become rich. Majority of the governmental practises tend to control their citizens and make them live under a centralized way of gaining money.

Another factor is that Gambling can result in loss of hard earned money if luck doesn't favour the gambler. Certain government tend to restrict such practices at a larger scale to protect their citizens. On top of that, some casinos indulge themselves in shady activities with mobs and criminals which might destroy the reputation of the government. Either way, even though Gambling is accepted as a form of entertainment in most of the English speaking countries, they tend to provide a negative impact to the gamblers on worst moments of luck.
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Government would always claim they are banning gambling to protect it's citizens, and that is what it looks like at the surface. But the reality is that most Governments bans gambling to prevent the outflow of wealth from their country. Again, gambling can be addictive. So it's not farfetched for Government to legitimately claim they are banning gambling to protect their citizens from unwanted addiction.

But the reality is that human being will always find a way to gamble. After all, life itself is like a gamble. 
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The problem I see is that gambling is something humans always did. It is something in the human nature. We always ignore probability and think "I will be luck now, just once, and I will make money here" or something like that.
We can't argue with this. Gambling is really part of our system. From its meaning, gambling is 'something that could produce a desired result or a bad or unpleasant result.' In other words, it's all about risks. So with or without money, we gamble because we take risks.

If government ban gambling, people will gamble illegally. Just like prohibiting drugs, people will still use drugs illegally.
Indeed. And since we've said that gambling is human nature, once people are really engaged, they will surely find a way to satisfy their crave to gamble. And it won't matter to them whether it's the legal or illegal means. If it's the latter, it'll surely cause bigger problems to the government.
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During my last work time in Balkan as early as January 2019 the Albanian government completely banned all kind of offline gambling as familys were being destroyed and the number of divorces and unemployment rate was really big.I saw even 11 year kids playing sport betting there and I have never seen this in any other Balkan country where I have worked.

In this case I think it was a right decision,government also blocked many online fiat bookies like bet365.
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