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Topic: [HYP] HyperStake | Generous Reward Staking | Advanced Staking Controls & Wallet - page 149. (Read 679332 times)

sr. member
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Talking about HYP as High PoS versus 750% High PoS sounds better anyways. I see the topic header was changed to that effect, good move.

Yeah at this point it is a bit misleading to say HYP is 750% PoS. Sure the code has 750% in there, but with the maximum generation of 1k HYP, I am seeing more along the lines of 150-500% depending on my blocks size and time to stake.

Yes, your model has worked flawlessly. Experiment successful and presstab wins, hands down! Good job my friend.
legendary
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Anarchy is not chaos.
Some mod really didn't like the superhero thing Tongue My comment got deleted and didn't even have a picture.


EDIT: I thought mods weren't supposed to do shit in self moderated threads? Since Press was in on the joke, they definitely are out of line.
legendary
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Blockchain Developer
Talking about HYP as High PoS versus 750% High PoS sounds better anyways. I see the topic header was changed to that effect, good move.

Yeah at this point it is a bit misleading to say HYP is 750% PoS. Sure the code has 750% in there, but with the maximum generation of 1k HYP, I am seeing more along the lines of 150-500% depending on my blocks size and time to stake.
legendary
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Talking about HYP as High PoS versus 750% High PoS sounds better anyways. I see the topic header was changed to that effect, good move.
legendary
Activity: 1372
Merit: 1022
Anarchy is not chaos.
Inflation rate has come down dramatically since the beginning 750% rate. But as noted, we still are in fact a high PoS coin, 200-300% annual money supply inflation over the next year and decreasing naturally every year after. As mentioned this puts us into the lower end of the high PoS coins, and we will keep sliding down that range.

Going forward, that might be something to emphasize.
legendary
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Inflation rate has come down dramatically since the beginning 750% rate. But as noted, we still are in fact a high PoS coin, 200-300% annual money supply inflation over the next year and decreasing naturally every year after. As mentioned this puts us into the lower end of the high PoS coins, and we will keep sliding down that range.
legendary
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I'm surprised to notice the price of HYP dropping below 100sat today with how advanced and well functioning the wallet is and how damn hard it is getting to stake.  I think over the longer term HYP is a great buy.

I think HYP is getting some blow back from the few horrible, horrible...I mean REALLY horrible, ultrahigh% POS coins that have salted the earth lately.  I think people see original 750% and think similar out of control inflation. 

It is actually far from it.  I did some quicky math, possibly with errors...

Yesterday when I looked there was 184,615,385 HYP in existence.  Lets call that the total for Apr28, true number is give or take...  We have already hit the capped ceiling and know that the new HYP generated each day is 960,000. 

So the daily inflation rate for Apr28 was 0.52% (960,000/184,615,385).  Today it will be 0.517% and so on getting smaller each day. 

The instantaneous yearly inflation on Apr28 was 190% (Bottlecaps territory).  But if the actual yearly inflation rate is the sum of the daily inflation rate from x to x+365 then the yearly inflation from Apr28, 2015 (to Apr28, 2016) is only 106% (Hobonickels territory)...and dropping fast. 

Looking forward, on july1, 2015 the actual yearly inflation rate works out to 89%.  April 1, 2016 the actual inflation rate is 52%. (DMD PHS territory)

It will be interesting to see how things play out.

Hyper's inflation if all Blocks are 1000 Coins each is 350 million a year (only 200% from current rate), as the price drops down lower into the 100 Satoshi mark it creates stronger walls, it's then a 1-2% gap playing the highs and lows so there is more profit arbitraging different exchanges. Coins not Staking or in Flux creates more Coins for Stakers.

What is the added benefit of having the Fees of Coins destroyed? Wouldn't you want to have Fees as part of the reward and increase the amount of active Coins in circulation?
legendary
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 Cry mods deleted my Aquaman post...the super hero of the sea gets no respect.
legendary
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I'm surprised to notice the price of HYP dropping below 100sat today with how advanced and well functioning the wallet is and how damn hard it is getting to stake.  I think over the longer term HYP is a great buy.

I think HYP is getting some blow back from the few horrible, horrible...I mean REALLY horrible, ultrahigh% POS coins that have salted the earth lately.  I think people see original 750% and think similar out of control inflation. 

It is actually far from it.  I did some quicky math, possibly with errors...

Yesterday when I looked there was 184,615,385 HYP in existence.  Lets call that the total for Apr28, true number is give or take...  We have already hit the capped ceiling and know that the new HYP generated each day is 960,000. 

So the daily inflation rate for Apr28 was 0.52% (960,000/184,615,385).  Today it will be 0.517% and so on getting smaller each day. 

The instantaneous yearly inflation on Apr28 was 190% (Bottlecaps territory).  But if the actual yearly inflation rate is the sum of the daily inflation rate from x to x+365 then the yearly inflation from Apr28, 2015 (to Apr28, 2016) is only 106% (Hobonickels territory)...and dropping fast. 

Looking forward, on july1, 2015 the actual yearly inflation rate works out to 89%.  April 1, 2016 the actual inflation rate is 52%. (DMD PHS territory)

It will be interesting to see how things play out.
legendary
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setstakesplitthreshold Edit

Syntax: setstakesplitthreshold <1 - 999,999>

Description: A stake output will split (in two parts), when the resulting amount for each of the outputs equals or exceeds the threshold value specified. For example: by setting a threshold of 5,000, stake outputs greater than 10,000 will be split into two.

groovy?

OK I get that now Smiley no problems there but I still have the problem that when I enter

setstakesplitthreshold 10000

 it says

{
"split stake threshold set to " : 10000,
"saved to wallet.dat " : "true"
}

But it sure does not seem to be doing it. I had a block of 17449 that staked and then split into 2 blocks of 9224.75. Shouldnt it have not split this block as the 2 blocks it made were both under 10,000 HYP ? Is there something I am missing here.

17,449 is greater than 10,000 so it split the Block into two.

If you want your Block of 17,449 not to split into two then you could set the threshold at 20,000.

That is not how it's explained in the help example. The example specifically says 5000 so blocks bigger then 10000 are split.

Yes it is *supposed* to be set to not split if the block will result in an amount less than 10k (in that example). I will double check the code to see if there is some leakage in the calculated value somewhere.
newbie
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setstakesplitthreshold Edit

Syntax: setstakesplitthreshold <1 - 999,999>

Description: A stake output will split (in two parts), when the resulting amount for each of the outputs equals or exceeds the threshold value specified. For example: by setting a threshold of 5,000, stake outputs greater than 10,000 will be split into two.

groovy?

OK I get that now Smiley no problems there but I still have the problem that when I enter

setstakesplitthreshold 10000

 it says

{
"split stake threshold set to " : 10000,
"saved to wallet.dat " : "true"
}

But it sure does not seem to be doing it. I had a block of 17449 that staked and then split into 2 blocks of 9224.75. Shouldnt it have not split this block as the 2 blocks it made were both under 10,000 HYP ? Is there something I am missing here.

17,449 is greater than 10,000 so it split the Block into two.

If you want your Block of 17,449 not to split into two then you could set the threshold at 20,000.

That is not how it's explained in the help example. The example specifically says 5000 so blocks bigger then 10000 are split.
legendary
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setstakesplitthreshold Edit

Syntax: setstakesplitthreshold <1 - 999,999>

Description: A stake output will split (in two parts), when the resulting amount for each of the outputs equals or exceeds the threshold value specified. For example: by setting a threshold of 5,000, stake outputs greater than 10,000 will be split into two.

groovy?

OK I get that now Smiley no problems there but I still have the problem that when I enter

setstakesplitthreshold 10000

 it says

{
"split stake threshold set to " : 10000,
"saved to wallet.dat " : "true"
}

But it sure does not seem to be doing it. I had a block of 17449 that staked and then split into 2 blocks of 9224.75. Shouldnt it have not split this block as the 2 blocks it made were both under 10,000 HYP ? Is there something I am missing here.

17,449 is greater than 10,000 so it split the Block into two.

If you want your Block of 17,449 not to split into two then you could set the threshold at 20,000.
hero member
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Quote
setstakesplitthreshold Edit

Syntax: setstakesplitthreshold <1 - 999,999>

Description: A stake output will split (in two parts), when the resulting amount for each of the outputs equals or exceeds the threshold value specified. For example: by setting a threshold of 5,000, stake outputs greater than 10,000 will be split into two.

groovy?

OK I get that now Smiley no problems there but I still have the problem that when I enter

setstakesplitthreshold 10000

 it says

{
"split stake threshold set to " : 10000,
"saved to wallet.dat " : "true"
}

But it sure does not seem to be doing it. I had a block of 17449 that staked and then split into 2 blocks of 9224.75. Shouldnt it have not split this block as the 2 blocks it made were both under 10,000 HYP ? Is there something I am missing here.
legendary
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Merit: 1000
Crackpot Idealist
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Quote
setstakesplitthreshold Edit

Syntax: setstakesplitthreshold <1 - 999,999>

Description: A stake output will split (in two parts), when the resulting amount for each of the outputs equals or exceeds the threshold value specified. For example: by setting a threshold of 5,000, stake outputs greater than 10,000 will be split into two.

groovy?
hero member
Activity: 1008
Merit: 502
Hello,

   I am having a hard time with this stake split threshold. I have it set to setstakesplitthreshold 10000 however it is not doing it. When you set it to setstakesplitthreshold 10000 and if you have a block of 90000 HYP in a staked block should it make 9 blocks of 10111? or 2 blocks of 50500? Either way it does not matter because I had a block of 17449 that split into 2 blocks of 9224.75. I went to the debug console and input

setstakesplitthreshold 10000

 it says

{
"split stake threshold set to " : 10000,
"saved to wallet.dat " : "true"
}

But it sure does not seem to be doing it. Is there something I am missing here.

My wallet specs

{
"version" : "v1.1.0.2",
"protocolversion" : 72001,
"walletversion" : 60000,
"balance" : ******.********,
"newmint" : 0.00000000,
"stake" : 0.00000000,
"blocks" : 305616,
"moneysupply" : 181044043.52401999,
"connections" : 62,
"proxy" : "",
"ip" : "***.***.***.***",
"difficulty" : 28.53151705,
"testnet" : false,
"keypoololdest" : 1428410957,
"keypoolsize" : 101,
"paytxfee" : 0.00000000,
"errors" : ""
}



legendary
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Anarchy is not chaos.

If you are having bandwidth problems enter "strictincoming true" & "strictprotocol true" into the debug window.

what does these both commands do?
also when i did "disablestake false 999999" output has stake requirment set? = false  what condition i have to put in the disablestake syntax

thanks for the info or pointing me towards it

strictincoming will block peers that request the same data over and over, we have seen this happening since the fork a few months back. strictprotocol will only keep you connected to peers on the most recent wallet.

if you enter "disablestake false" then the wallet will continue the hashing process as usual. if you enter "disablestake true" then you have shut off staking. if you enter "disable stake true diff > 25" then your staking will be disabled if the diff is over 25 and it will say "stake requirements set? true"

and once difficulty is <25 (rarely) thn staking will become active by itself, right?


Yep, thats how it works. You can also do it with your wallets total weight. "disablestake true weight < 100000" for example

lets rock the party, when you'll be launching another coin with 1000% PoS Cheesy Cheesy

I had an idea for a 50k Coin, you could launch it with a long 0 mining reward and taper up a bit and let trading takes it's course, when it hit's 0 it gets delisted and you get bags or BTC, maybe throw in some random blocks, super compound!

sounds rather familiar. Couldn't have been inspired by a guy named Homero, could it ?
legendary
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If you are having bandwidth problems enter "strictincoming true" & "strictprotocol true" into the debug window.

what does these both commands do?
also when i did "disablestake false 999999" output has stake requirment set? = false  what condition i have to put in the disablestake syntax

thanks for the info or pointing me towards it

strictincoming will block peers that request the same data over and over, we have seen this happening since the fork a few months back. strictprotocol will only keep you connected to peers on the most recent wallet.

if you enter "disablestake false" then the wallet will continue the hashing process as usual. if you enter "disablestake true" then you have shut off staking. if you enter "disable stake true diff > 25" then your staking will be disabled if the diff is over 25 and it will say "stake requirements set? true"

and once difficulty is <25 (rarely) thn staking will become active by itself, right?


Yep, thats how it works. You can also do it with your wallets total weight. "disablestake true weight < 100000" for example

lets rock the party, when you'll be launching another coin with 1000% PoS Cheesy Cheesy

I had an idea for a 50k Coin, you could launch it with a long 0 mining reward and taper up a bit and let trading takes it's course, when it hit's 0 it gets delisted and you get bags or BTC, maybe throw in some random blocks, super compound!
legendary
Activity: 1162
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Decentralizing Jesus on the Blockchain
lets rock the party, when you'll be launching another coin with 1000% PoS Cheesy Cheesy

Tongue

Not sure if I will make another coin, HYP is my one and only at the moment. If I were to make another coin, it probably wouldn't be the same high PoS economics experiment type of coin. I know a guy that makes of poorly designed super high rate coins, you watch his threads and see that there tends to be more trouble than its worth Tongue

rightly said and i guess i m already keeping an eye on it since we all got spot Wink
legendary
Activity: 1330
Merit: 1000
Blockchain Developer
lets rock the party, when you'll be launching another coin with 1000% PoS Cheesy Cheesy

Tongue

Not sure if I will make another coin, HYP is my one and only at the moment. If I were to make another coin, it probably wouldn't be the same high PoS economics experiment type of coin. I know a guy that makes of poorly designed super high rate coins, you watch his threads and see that there tends to be more trouble than its worth Tongue
legendary
Activity: 1162
Merit: 1000
Decentralizing Jesus on the Blockchain

If you are having bandwidth problems enter "strictincoming true" & "strictprotocol true" into the debug window.

what does these both commands do?
also when i did "disablestake false 999999" output has stake requirment set? = false  what condition i have to put in the disablestake syntax

thanks for the info or pointing me towards it

strictincoming will block peers that request the same data over and over, we have seen this happening since the fork a few months back. strictprotocol will only keep you connected to peers on the most recent wallet.

if you enter "disablestake false" then the wallet will continue the hashing process as usual. if you enter "disablestake true" then you have shut off staking. if you enter "disable stake true diff > 25" then your staking will be disabled if the diff is over 25 and it will say "stake requirements set? true"

and once difficulty is <25 (rarely) thn staking will become active by itself, right?


Yep, thats how it works. You can also do it with your wallets total weight. "disablestake true weight < 100000" for example

lets rock the party, when you'll be launching another coin with 1000% PoS Cheesy Cheesy
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