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Quote from: EarnOnVictor on May 24, 2023, 04:17:46 AM

Discipline is a very good thing in every facet of life, but in addition, you should have a good plan when you are disciplined in gambling. It entails a foolproof approach that would sustain you for so long. But at times, it's easier said than done as emotion is a spirit and it lives in everyone, if care is not taken, emotion will overcome the discipline and the results would be catastrophic. This is why I would like to include the right budget in this discussion, it might be a daily, weekly or yearly budget.

This is a way to calculatively plan, which could also help our weakness by not letting emotion overcome us. After all, you might have known the maximum daily amount to bet, so it will not affect you when you lose and immediately abstain from betting till the next day.

This is right. Discipline is really needed and it will get you somewhere nice and far if you have and mastered this trait early on and in a consistent manner. Having discipline means you are responsible on your actions and you calculate the risks that come along with every plan. Additionally, you set limits, boundaries, and takes over the control using your intellect rather than your emotions. If you can do this, definitely you will not get lost and not be in disadvantaged if you ever plan to gamble.

Having fund allocation, not too much time dedication for gambling just shows that you are disciplined and you do respect your boundaries in gambling. I met people who are like this and they really have a balanced lifestyle - getting to enjoy what they want and at the same time, doing their duties on other roles such as being a good provider while having a betting or playing hobby on the side.

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Quote from: AmoreJaz on May 22, 2023, 05:36:27 PM

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on May 22, 2023, 12:14:43 AM

It is very difficult to make a player who has a lot of money understand that he should stop, because honestly if he has a Backup for his other needs it is very Difficult, what is Really Difficult is to play with money that should not be lost, because if If you lose, other things can get out of balance, and the responsibility you have becomes pressure, for that reason it is always Healthier to play in a casino with little money, but that little money is willing to lose and that criteria will be respected later not to put more money and risk the one that has already been committed before,because that is where the addiction begins.

I think this case is dependent on the self-control or the discipline of the player it has nothing to do about the amount of money available in the bankroll. Even with a huge bankroll if a player knows the consequences of indulging too much in gambling and has a strong personal discipline, I bet the guy will stop before his bankroll is depleted and in the contrary, those who have no self-discipine will keep on playing until he runs out of money.

self-discipline indeed plays a big role on how a gambler will form his habits towards this activity. i can agree that no matter how big your bankroll is, if you have no control of yourself, you will always end up broke. but if you have small bankroll but you know your limits, then you can even go home with some winnings.
if you think you are starting to go deep and out of control, give yourself a lil break and contemplate on your life. what you wanted to do and if it is what you wanted to do. sometimes you only need self-reflection to wake up from the reality and change course for the better.

Discipline is a very good thing in every facet of life, but in addition, you should have a good plan when you are disciplined in gambling. It entails a foolproof approach that would sustain you for so long. But at times, it's easier said than done as emotion is a spirit and it lives in everyone, if care is not taken, emotion will overcome the discipline and the results would be catastrophic. This is why I would like to include the right budget in this discussion, it might be a daily, weekly or yearly budget.

This is a way to calculatively plan, which could also help our weakness by not letting emotion overcome us. After all, you might have known the maximum daily amount to bet, so it will not affect you when you lose and immediately abstain from betting till the next day.

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Quote from: SirLancelot on May 23, 2023, 04:05:44 PM

Quote from: Mr.suevie on May 21, 2023, 03:11:20 PM

Quote from: BitcoinAccepted on May 14, 2023, 03:04:52 PM

We often intend to play little and gamble small, but unfortunately that is often an illusion. If you like to gamble too much, you may end up betting larger amounts over time. The problem is also often that you no longer have the realization that you are gambling. You have a blur in your eyes and then you are only concerned with money. But gambling is not the way to stay safe, it would be better to stay away from it altogether.

Some people actually live behind the misconception of actually taking gambling as a means of making income and those set of people are just entwined to gamble out their money everyday regardless of the losses that they might enquire, they are blinded by the fact they can make continuous profit even if they lose and this type of thought in gambling can never be reduced even if they think to gamble less.

Ironically, their misconception doesn't break even after losing money every day instead of getting any gains which is basically not how earning an income works.

They still keep gambling with the same misconception that they can make money from gambling when they are clearly losing money to it and they are so lost that they don't realize it.

Seeing the reality and believing it becomes hard for some people sometimes, the same is with such kinds of gamblers. They know no stopping at any cost and will also not leave being stubborn about their thoughts, which are not right

.

Those people could never learn from that misconception, instead would still gamble and try to make money. They really don't realize what they are doing is wrong and need to fix it before becoming a full-blown gambling addiction.

And for those who don't agree with us, we can never make them see the difference because they will stick with it without wanting to change it or accept it. And we can only let them be like that and see the reality that will happen later.

There is one good reason why there is this misconception and that is that while we lose we get the rage and we say we will stop gambling and will not play anymore,will stick to a preliminary budget and no matter what I will stick to it but as soon as some little time passes there is that "microbe" that is deep inside our roots that says let's try one more time and this time we will hit it big.This is what keeps gamblers coming back and as such is very difficult to control this type of emotion and it can be learned only with passing of time,for me it took 3 years to put this emotion in control so it is very easy to say but very difficult to do.

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Quote from: SirLancelot on May 23, 2023, 04:05:44 PM

Quote from: Mr.suevie on May 21, 2023, 03:11:20 PM

Quote from: BitcoinAccepted on May 14, 2023, 03:04:52 PM

We often intend to play little and gamble small, but unfortunately that is often an illusion. If you like to gamble too much, you may end up betting larger amounts over time. The problem is also often that you no longer have the realization that you are gambling. You have a blur in your eyes and then you are only concerned with money. But gambling is not the way to stay safe, it would be better to stay away from it altogether.

Some people actually live behind the misconception of actually taking gambling as a means of making income and those set of people are just entwined to gamble out their money everyday regardless of the losses that they might enquire, they are blinded by the fact they can make continuous profit even if they lose and this type of thought in gambling can never be reduced even if they think to gamble less.

Ironically, their misconception doesn't break even after losing money every day instead of getting any gains which is basically not how earning an income works.

They still keep gambling with the same misconception that they can make money from gambling when they are clearly losing money to it and they are so lost that they don't realize it.

Seeing the reality and believing it becomes hard for some people sometimes, the same is with such kinds of gamblers. They know no stopping at any cost and will also not leave being stubborn about their thoughts, which are not right

.

Those people could never learn from that misconception, instead would still gamble and try to make money. They really don't realize what they are doing is wrong and need to fix it before becoming a full-blown gambling addiction.

And for those who don't agree with us, we can never make them see the difference because they will stick with it without wanting to change it or accept it. And we can only let them be like that and see the reality that will happen later.

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Quote from: Mr.suevie on May 21, 2023, 03:11:20 PM

Quote from: BitcoinAccepted on May 14, 2023, 03:04:52 PM

We often intend to play little and gamble small, but unfortunately that is often an illusion. If you like to gamble too much, you may end up betting larger amounts over time. The problem is also often that you no longer have the realization that you are gambling. You have a blur in your eyes and then you are only concerned with money. But gambling is not the way to stay safe, it would be better to stay away from it altogether.

Some people actually live behind the misconception of actually taking gambling as a means of making income and those set of people are just entwined to gamble out their money everyday regardless of the losses that they might enquire, they are blinded by the fact they can make continuous profit even if they lose and this type of thought in gambling can never be reduced even if they think to gamble less.

In reality, gambling less does not work for someone who has problems. An occasional, moderate gambler may decide to gamble less and succed in it. But someone who has reached the point of getting out of control, of losing more than he could afford, several times, even going into debt to afford to continue gambling, his only way out is to quit gambling cold turkey. And by seeking help, usually psychological help.

In order to avoid such extremes, it is usually helpful to understand how odds work in the casino, some statistics and variance. This leads to a rational understanding of the subject that prevents going into an emotional trance seeking to win more when one has taken a big win or, conversely, to keep betting desperately trying to chase their losses.

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Quote from: Mr.suevie on May 21, 2023, 03:11:20 PM

Quote from: BitcoinAccepted on May 14, 2023, 03:04:52 PM

We often intend to play little and gamble small, but unfortunately that is often an illusion. If you like to gamble too much, you may end up betting larger amounts over time. The problem is also often that you no longer have the realization that you are gambling. You have a blur in your eyes and then you are only concerned with money. But gambling is not the way to stay safe, it would be better to stay away from it altogether.

Some people actually live behind the misconception of actually taking gambling as a means of making income and those set of people are just entwined to gamble out their money everyday regardless of the losses that they might enquire, they are blinded by the fact they can make continuous profit even if they lose and this type of thought in gambling can never be reduced even if they think to gamble less.

Ironically, their misconception doesn't break even after losing money every day instead of getting any gains which is basically not how earning an income works.

They still keep gambling with the same misconception that they can make money from gambling when they are clearly losing money to it and they are so lost that they don't realize it.

Seeing the reality and believing it becomes hard for some people sometimes, the same is with such kinds of gamblers. They know no stopping at any cost and will also not leave being stubborn about their thoughts, which are not right

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Quote from: AmoreJaz on May 22, 2023, 05:36:27 PM

Quote from: serjent05 on May 22, 2023, 05:20:28 PM

Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on May 22, 2023, 12:14:43 AM

It is very difficult to make a player who has a lot of money understand that he should stop, because honestly if he has a Backup for his other needs it is very Difficult, what is Really Difficult is to play with money that should not be lost, because if If you lose, other things can get out of balance, and the responsibility you have becomes pressure, for that reason it is always Healthier to play in a casino with little money, but that little money is willing to lose and that criteria will be respected later not to put more money and risk the one that has already been committed before,because that is where the addiction begins.

I think this case is dependent on the self-control or the discipline of the player it has nothing to do about the amount of money available in the bankroll. Even with a huge bankroll if a player knows the consequences of indulging too much in gambling and has a strong personal discipline, I bet the guy will stop before his bankroll is depleted and in the contrary, those who have no self-discipine will keep on playing until he runs out of money.

self-discipline indeed plays a big role on how a gambler will form his habits towards this activity. i can agree that no matter how big your bankroll is, if you have no control of yourself, you will always end up broke. but if you have small bankroll but you know your limits, then you can even go home with some winnings.
if you think you are starting to go deep and out of control, give yourself a lil break and contemplate on your life. what you wanted to do and if it is what you wanted to do. sometimes you only need self-reflection to wake up from the reality and change course for the better.

Not only on gambling but also in other things as well on which self control and really be aware on what are the things that they've been dealing with. We know on how risky gambling is and so as with other things which does impose risks too but not that much in similar with gambling.If you do want on being safe then dont gamble at all and if you do want to some enjoyment or leisure then it would really be depending
on you whether you would engage into gambling or not.

There are really just that people who cant really just bare out on the risks on what gambling could give, but does want to earn or get some win? Cheesy

You would be needing to take risks for you to win something but on an entertaining manner and this is where people would make out some choice
whether they would be dealing with gambling or not.

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Quote from: serjent05 on May 22, 2023, 05:20:28 PM

Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on May 22, 2023, 12:14:43 AM

It is very difficult to make a player who has a lot of money understand that he should stop, because honestly if he has a Backup for his other needs it is very Difficult, what is Really Difficult is to play with money that should not be lost, because if If you lose, other things can get out of balance, and the responsibility you have becomes pressure, for that reason it is always Healthier to play in a casino with little money, but that little money is willing to lose and that criteria will be respected later not to put more money and risk the one that has already been committed before,because that is where the addiction begins.

I think this case is dependent on the self-control or the discipline of the player it has nothing to do about the amount of money available in the bankroll. Even with a huge bankroll if a player knows the consequences of indulging too much in gambling and has a strong personal discipline, I bet the guy will stop before his bankroll is depleted and in the contrary, those who have no self-discipine will keep on playing until he runs out of money.

self-discipline indeed plays a big role on how a gambler will form his habits towards this activity. i can agree that no matter how big your bankroll is, if you have no control of yourself, you will always end up broke. but if you have small bankroll but you know your limits, then you can even go home with some winnings.
if you think you are starting to go deep and out of control, give yourself a lil break and contemplate on your life. what you wanted to do and if it is what you wanted to do. sometimes you only need self-reflection to wake up from the reality and change course for the better.

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on May 22, 2023, 12:14:43 AM

It is very difficult to make a player who has a lot of money understand that he should stop, because honestly if he has a Backup for his other needs it is very Difficult, what is Really Difficult is to play with money that should not be lost, because if If you lose, other things can get out of balance, and the responsibility you have becomes pressure, for that reason it is always Healthier to play in a casino with little money, but that little money is willing to lose and that criteria will be respected later not to put more money and risk the one that has already been committed before,because that is where the addiction begins.

I think this case is dependent on the self-control or the discipline of the player it has nothing to do about the amount of money available in the bankroll. Even with a huge bankroll if a player knows the consequences of indulging too much in gambling and has a strong personal discipline, I bet the guy will stop before his bankroll is depleted and in the contrary, those who have no self-discipine will keep on playing until he runs out of money.

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I am not a gambling addict but some friends are making me look like one because I gamble less and they gamble more, it all started when we got into an argument that investing in Bitcoin is not the same as gambling, my friends who are gamblers, not full-time but more of a gambler than I am, are claiming that there is no difference between investing and gambling, they said if all you doing is investing money on Bitcoin you are no different to those who are gambling in a casino.

Whatever thing you overdo is bad and could lead you to addiction, let alone when it comes to gambling or trading, we really need to do it with deciplined mind, if we really want to be profitable. One should have rules, state or put down those rules and how to follow it, which should involve the total number of games one should play in a day/week , number of loses which you would have and consider taking a break in order to avoid excessive betting.

When a gambler has enough bankroll and keeps losing in the gambling, the chance of losing that bankroll is so high. It is not possible to say when a gambler becomes addicted. However, excessive losses and high winnings can lead to gambling addiction. A gambler must follow a routine. Though it is very difficult to maintain the rules. Because we often don't prioritize these things when we are gambling. when we lose in gambling we remember these things. But the main point is that we should take precautions before any accident happens.

It is very difficult to make a player who has a lot of money understand that he should stop, because honestly if he has a Backup for his other needs it is very Difficult, what is Really Difficult is to play with money that should not be lost, because if If you lose, other things can get out of balance, and the responsibility you have becomes pressure, for that reason it is always Healthier to play in a casino with little money, but that little money is willing to lose and that criteria will be respected later not to put more money and risk the one that has already been committed before,because that is where the addiction begins.

Yes, I definitely agree. When playing gambling activities, we should just take enough with us so that we can stop our activities immediately if our capital runs out and in that way, we can avoid from spending too much especially if we're already in a lose streak and we have that certain feeling where we feel an urge to get those money back when in-fact that is surely an almost impossible thing to do because all gambling activities are designed to make the house in the advantageous side. Thus, overspending will likely get us into an unwanted situation that we surely don't want to be in.

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on April 25, 2023, 07:30:54 AM

I am not a gambling addict but some friends are making me look like one because I gamble less and they gamble more, it all started when we got into an argument that investing in Bitcoin is not the same as gambling, my friends who are gamblers, not full-time but more of a gambler than I am, are claiming that there is no difference between investing and gambling, they said if all you doing is investing money on Bitcoin you are no different to those who are gambling in a casino.

Still, I refuse this because I believe they are wrong, Bitcoin market has charts and I am playing with charts even if I am a full-time Bitcoin trader, all I need to do is read charts, and if I am good at it I will win vs gambling, where it's you vs a company which we can never tell if their games are completely fair or not.

Furthermore, I told them that Bitcoin investors tend to get positive results, while online casino gamblers tend to get negative results more than positive result, true or false?

Since it is own perception, you don't need to make it too serious. If they believe that investing in Bitcoin is like gambling, let them trust their assumptions. You just need to tell them the truth once. If they refuse it, then you don't need to argue about it anymore. It is difficult to argue with people who are not open-minded, you will get nothing.

They won't accept that playing gambling may end up with negative results. They are not aware that they are addicts, which that proves they don't realize the negative results/impacts. Even if you explain with any reason, I doubt you will make them understand the difference.

My suggestion, you just need to stop arguing with them. Cheesy

Bitcoin versus Gambling. They're like competing roller coasters at a theme park, each offering its own spine-tingling excitement, its unique potential for winning the stuffed animal prize or losing your lunch. Isn't it all a grand juggling act of personal choice and responsibility when the park closes? Consider Bitcoin, the proverbial 'one-armed bandit' of finance. For some, it's a shining beacon of the future; for others, it's a rickety raft on a turbulent sea. But, hey, isn't every investment a bit like playing darts blindfolded?

And then we have our old friend Gambling, a greased pole if there ever was one. Some climb for the sheer thrill, some for a mental vacation, and some, unfortunately, can't let go. But isn't this the same song and dance with any guilty pleasure? Here's a left-field pitch. Picture schools cranking out lessons on financial literacy, risk-taking, and spotting the gold at the end of the rainbow! Can you envision a world where young minds are molded to invest with precision, be it in crypto or elsewhere?

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on April 25, 2023, 07:30:54 AM

I am not a gambling addict but some friends are making me look like one because I gamble less and they gamble more, it all started when we got into an argument that investing in Bitcoin is not the same as gambling, my friends who are gamblers, not full-time but more of a gambler than I am, are claiming that there is no difference between investing and gambling, they said if all you doing is investing money on Bitcoin you are no different to those who are gambling in a casino.

Whatever thing you overdo is bad and could lead you to addiction, let alone when it comes to gambling or trading, we really need to do it with deciplined mind, if we really want to be profitable. One should have rules, state or put down those rules and how to follow it, which should involve the total number of games one should play in a day/week , number of loses which you would have and consider taking a break in order to avoid excessive betting.

When a gambler has enough bankroll and keeps losing in the gambling, the chance of losing that bankroll is so high. It is not possible to say when a gambler becomes addicted. However, excessive losses and high winnings can lead to gambling addiction. A gambler must follow a routine. Though it is very difficult to maintain the rules. Because we often don't prioritize these things when we are gambling. when we lose in gambling we remember these things. But the main point is that we should take precautions before any accident happens.

It is very difficult to make a player who has a lot of money understand that he should stop, because honestly if he has a Backup for his other needs it is very Difficult, what is Really Difficult is to play with money that should not be lost, because if If you lose, other things can get out of balance, and the responsibility you have becomes pressure, for that reason it is always Healthier to play in a casino with little money, but that little money is willing to lose and that criteria will be respected later not to put more money and risk the one that has already been committed before,because that is where the addiction begins.

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on April 25, 2023, 07:30:54 AM

I am not a gambling addict but some friends are making me look like one because I gamble less and they gamble more, it all started when we got into an argument that investing in Bitcoin is not the same as gambling, my friends who are gamblers, not full-time but more of a gambler than I am, are claiming that there is no difference between investing and gambling, they said if all you doing is investing money on Bitcoin you are no different to those who are gambling in a casino.

Still, I refuse this because I believe they are wrong, Bitcoin market has charts and I am playing with charts even if I am a full-time Bitcoin trader, all I need to do is read charts, and if I am good at it I will win vs gambling, where it's you vs a company which we can never tell if their games are completely fair or not.

Furthermore, I told them that Bitcoin investors tend to get positive results, while online casino gamblers tend to get negative results more than positive result, true or false?

Since it is own perception, you don't need to make it too serious. If they believe that investing in Bitcoin is like gambling, let them trust their assumptions. You just need to tell them the truth once. If they refuse it, then you don't need to argue about it anymore. It is difficult to argue with people who are not open-minded, you will get nothing.

They won't accept that playing gambling may end up with negative results. They are not aware that they are addicts, which that proves they don't realize the negative results/impacts. Even if you explain with any reason, I doubt you will make them understand the difference.

My suggestion, you just need to stop arguing with them. Cheesy

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on April 25, 2023, 07:30:54 AM

I am not a gambling addict but some friends are making me look like one because I gamble less and they gamble more, it all started when we got into an argument that investing in Bitcoin is not the same as gambling, my friends who are gamblers, not full-time but more of a gambler than I am, are claiming that there is no difference between investing and gambling, they said if all you doing is investing money on Bitcoin you are no different to those who are gambling in a casino.

Still, I refuse this because I believe they are wrong, Bitcoin market has charts and I am playing with charts even if I am a full-time Bitcoin trader, all I need to do is read charts, and if I am good at it I will win vs gambling, where it's you vs a company which we can never tell if their games are completely fair or not.

Furthermore, I told them that Bitcoin investors tend to get positive results, while online casino gamblers tend to get negative results more than positive result, true or false?

I asked them to show me prove that they make more from gambling than they lose, none of them showed me, but I prove to them that I hardly have losses investing in Bitcoin lol .

Famz, drop your opinion on this, would you categorize these two as gambling? Because the only winning factor from Bitcoin investment is to just buy low and wait for a high price, it's not the same with casinos. Am I not making sense? I will like to hear from you.

Realistically some people have low self control and the best way for them to approach gambling is to avoid it altogether. Trying to control or limit it will not work for most people, because when you're in the moment it's too easy to forgot all the restrictions that you planned around it. People also often misjudge or misrepresent their winning streak as you describe, they only remember their last big wins but forget all of the little losses that outweigh them. People are much more comfortable playing along with the illusion and allowing their own brains to trick them, it can often be a coping mechanism that is not even intentional - nobody likes losing money because it hurts or might mean you are foolish, so it is mental damage control.

Those little losses would really be ignored and would really be just simply be skipped or forgotten on the time that the next roll would be a win, no matter whether it would really be just a small or big win on which
those feeling of anxiety and stress would be wiped away on the time that you would really be seeing greens and this is the most common concept or scenario on which we could able to see.
Getting safe but engaging with gambling cant really be that possible. If you do want to stay safe then you shouldnt really be gambling at all. It is really just that a matter of your choice
and preference on a certain individual because not all would really be having that the same level of risks appetite when it comes to this matter.
Gambling is for fun and there's no other purpose of it but people do really goes into a certain extent which these things turns out to be their money making machine
which it do ends up on a disaster.

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on April 25, 2023, 07:30:54 AM

I am not a gambling addict but some friends are making me look like one because I gamble less and they gamble more, it all started when we got into an argument that investing in Bitcoin is not the same as gambling, my friends who are gamblers, not full-time but more of a gambler than I am, are claiming that there is no difference between investing and gambling, they said if all you doing is investing money on Bitcoin you are no different to those who are gambling in a casino.

Still, I refuse this because I believe they are wrong, Bitcoin market has charts and I am playing with charts even if I am a full-time Bitcoin trader, all I need to do is read charts, and if I am good at it I will win vs gambling, where it's you vs a company which we can never tell if their games are completely fair or not.

Furthermore, I told them that Bitcoin investors tend to get positive results, while online casino gamblers tend to get negative results more than positive result, true or false?

I asked them to show me prove that they make more from gambling than they lose, none of them showed me, but I prove to them that I hardly have losses investing in Bitcoin lol .

Famz, drop your opinion on this, would you categorize these two as gambling? Because the only winning factor from Bitcoin investment is to just buy low and wait for a high price, it's not the same with casinos. Am I not making sense? I will like to hear from you.

Realistically some people have low self control and the best way for them to approach gambling is to avoid it altogether. Trying to control or limit it will not work for most people, because when you're in the moment it's too easy to forgot all the restrictions that you planned around it. People also often misjudge or misrepresent their winning streak as you describe, they only remember their last big wins but forget all of the little losses that outweigh them. People are much more comfortable playing along with the illusion and allowing their own brains to trick them, it can often be a coping mechanism that is not even intentional - nobody likes losing money because it hurts or might mean you are foolish, so it is mental damage control.

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Quote from: BitcoinAccepted on May 14, 2023, 03:04:52 PM

We often intend to play little and gamble small, but unfortunately that is often an illusion. If you like to gamble too much, you may end up betting larger amounts over time. The problem is also often that you no longer have the realization that you are gambling. You have a blur in your eyes and then you are only concerned with money. But gambling is not the way to stay safe, it would be better to stay away from it altogether.

Some people actually live behind the misconception of actually taking gambling as a means of making income and those set of people are just entwined to gamble out their money everyday regardless of the losses that they might enquire, they are blinded by the fact they can make continuous profit even if they lose and this type of thought in gambling can never be reduced even if they think to gamble less.

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on April 25, 2023, 07:30:54 AM

I refuse this because I believe they are wrong, Bitcoin market has charts and I am playing with charts even if I am a full-time Bitcoin trader, all I need to do is read charts, and if I am good at it I will win vs gambling, where it's you vs a company which we can never tell if their games are completely fair or not.

Your friends don't want to hear the truth about bitcoin because, in my opinion, they are gambling addicts who believe that bitcoin cannot provide them with the money they regularly win from gambling. For this reason, I believe that no matter what you explain to them about bitcoin, they won't agree with you, especially if you say that it requires a lot of time investment and that you must wait a very long time before making money from it. They won't even bother to look at it.
However, as long as you haven't invested in other shitcoins that will even cause you to lose more than a gambler, investing in bitcoin is plainly distinct from gambling.

People need to learn when to fight their battles, while there are some people out there which take the time to promote bitcoin to anyone that listens to them, I think that in most cases this is a waste of time, people will adopt bitcoin on their own when they are ready, so a bunch of people that think that investing or trading bitcoin is the same as gambling simply are not ready and we must not waste our time with them, as even if you took the effort to explain to them why bitcoin is different and they seemed to agree with you, as soon as you leave they will go back to their previous beliefs anyway.

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on April 25, 2023, 07:30:54 AM

I refuse this because I believe they are wrong, Bitcoin market has charts and I am playing with charts even if I am a full-time Bitcoin trader, all I need to do is read charts, and if I am good at it I will win vs gambling, where it's you vs a company which we can never tell if their games are completely fair or not.

Your friends don't want to hear the truth about bitcoin because, in my opinion, they are gambling addicts who believe that bitcoin cannot provide them with the money they regularly win from gambling. For this reason, I believe that no matter what you explain to them about bitcoin, they won't agree with you, especially if you say that it requires a lot of time investment and that you must wait a very long time before making money from it. They won't even bother to look at it.
However, as long as you haven't invested in other shitcoins that will even cause you to lose more than a gambler, investing in bitcoin is plainly distinct from gambling.

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Quote from: Shamm on May 13, 2023, 12:04:23 PM

The more we gamble less the more we get interesting in the world of gambling but its up to us if we can control ourselves as we all know that once we involve in gambling we can not deny the fact that sometimes we will feel like in gambling we are comfortable. So it's up to us if we can control our selves in to a educated gambler that we gamble for the sake of joy and not for earning. Because gambling is for fun not a job.

In order to save yourself from losing money, I think it's not the quantity that matters. You can gamble less and still lose money. The more important thing is money management and the plan with which you enter in gambling. If you know how much money you will put in each game or bet, you have a pre-defined plan on what will be your course of action on a loss or a win, then in that case you will not lose money regardless of the fact that you gamble more often or rarely gamble.

Yeah, I agree that gambling will not give you any fixed earnings, so gambling to have fun is also very important but at the same time, not losing money should be the ultimate goal too.

You are very correct, and I agree with you, one of the ways to really have a stress free gambling is to only gamble with a fund that is already provisioned for it, making funds available for gambling will ensure that the gambler never end up gambling with funds he or she can't afford to loose.
Though it take special care and discipline, nothing really good, profitable ever comes at a cost that is free, gambling is an activity that should never be depended on as a means of living in terms of finance, gambling should be more or a fun adventure for the gambler, than of a way to make money.

Yes and as a gambler we will make sure that we can control ourselves and focus for fun but in reality there are many gamblers who are in addiction and they cant control themselves to gamble anytime. Which is still okay if they don't have their own family and they are rich enough. But if you are in a middle stage of life then it's better to gamble for fun and use our extra money in order to prevent addiction and lost more money.

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Quote from: Cryptmuster on May 18, 2023, 03:42:54 AM

It also initially depends on the ability of a person to handle money, the ability to plan a budget is a very important property at the same time, because if you allocate a certain (small) amount for gambling, then it will never become a problem for you if you lose it. And if you manage to increase it and thus it will be your game deposit for a long time, then there will simply be no problems with addiction and reasons for big losses.

This discipline is not easy to achieve for some people, even myself sometimes get out of control. For some people, they play with minimal money, the key of the players mostly they are decided to stops right away and withdraws his money. There are also those who continue to play, but they have already withdrawn 2-3x the amount of the deposit made. So when he loses out of the remaining winnings, he still earns money. In case they lose, the real challenge will be come, some of them trying to get another win, and forget about to handle his money.

The best suggestion when we are lose after deposit is take a rest from gambling, at least for one week. I got this inside from Indonesian member of this forum.

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