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Quote from: Hypnosis00 on May 13, 2023, 06:58:48 AM

I know that nobody wanted to get caught in addiction but because of some influence from friends and other gamblers, that gonna happen.
The problem now is how to get out of the cage of addiction since we know that it doesn't work easily especially if a gambler doesn't help themselves. Maybe, if we are serious to stick on our limitations and make it a habit from the start, definitely, we don't get into this tough situation.

If we choose to live in an environment of gamblers then don't expect to be able to stop addiction, my friend once exiled himself living in a village without the internet and he really succeeded in getting rid of his gambling addiction, it's really difficult to get rid of gambling addiction but if there is intention then everything will be lost,

But still, as gamblers, always take care of portion and refrain from gambling because when we are used to looking for pleasure in gambling because basically it starts from being happy, it will also end in curiosity, namely curiosity which is the beginning of addiction. Wink

Exactly, what they have initially thought as mere curiosity end up as their fun play time and then end up with addiction. Most people tend to forget to play it safe and not focus mainly on their game just to expect them to win in the beginning and ended up being frustrasted due to streak losses. The pleasure of earning instantly is difficult to handle specially for those who are easily swayed, and it will take a lot of courage for someone to be able to escape and accept the reality of being addicted.

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The more we gamble less the more we get interesting in the world of gambling but its up to us if we can control ourselves as we all know that once we involve in gambling we can not deny the fact that sometimes we will feel like in gambling we are comfortable. So it's up to us if we can control our selves in to a educated gambler that we gamble for the sake of joy and not for earning. Because gambling is for fun not a job.

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I would say there is no comparison between gambling and investing in Bitcoin. It's not even close to being comparable since gambling is mostly based on luck, while investing in Bitcoin is entirely different. The value of Bitcoin depends on the market demand and supply, and it gains value when more people invest in it which is not the same as gambling.

Quote from: Crypt0Gore on April 25, 2023, 06:30:54 AM

Furthermore, I told them that Bitcoin investors tend to get positive results, while online casino gamblers tend to get negative results more than positive result, true or false?

That's correct, I can confirm that investing in Bitcoin is much safer than gambling with your money since in most cases, gambling results in losing your money, while Bitcoin investments can be profitable and more secure in the long run.

Quote from: Crypt0Gore on April 25, 2023, 06:30:54 AM

I asked them to show me prove that they make more from gambling than they lose, none of them showed me, but I prove to them that I hardly have losses investing in Bitcoin lol .
Famz, drop your opinion on this, would you categorize these two as gambling? Because the only winning factor from Bitcoin investment is to just buy low and wait for a high price, it's not the same with casinos. Am I not making sense? I will like to hear from you.

It is unlikely that gamblers would be able to prove they win more than they lose since, deep down they know that they tend to lose more frequently than they win. In some cases, they may have lost a considerable amount of money but are reluctant to discuss it. IMO gambling is not a for a consistency. If you do choose to gamble and happen to win a huge amount of money, it's best to cash out and quit as the biggest threat is greed. Once you give in to it, it can be difficult to stop and may result in significant losses.

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Quote from: Hypnosis00 on May 13, 2023, 06:58:48 AM

I know that nobody wanted to get caught in addiction but because of some influence from friends and other gamblers, that gonna happen.
The problem now is how to get out of the cage of addiction since we know that it doesn't work easily especially if a gambler doesn't help themselves. Maybe, if we are serious to stick on our limitations and make it a habit from the start, definitely, we don't get into this tough situation.

If we choose to live in an environment of gamblers then don't expect to be able to stop addiction, my friend once exiled himself living in a village without the internet and he really succeeded in getting rid of his gambling addiction, it's really difficult to get rid of gambling addiction but if there is intention then everything will be lost,

But still, as gamblers, always take care of portion and refrain from gambling because when we are used to looking for pleasure in gambling because basically it starts from being happy, it will also end in curiosity, namely curiosity which is the beginning of addiction. Wink

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Quote from: BobK71 on May 13, 2023, 06:44:12 AM

Quote from: Odusko on May 13, 2023, 05:29:44 AM

Quote from: bitzizzix on May 13, 2023, 05:05:10 AM

Professional help only helps a little because there is a time limit in helping, and indeed the most helpful and influential are the people closest to him. Like family, partners, friends and others, because they will always be with us and can help prevent it if they care.
and indeed when we are addicted to something it is very difficult for us to overcome, it is better not to get used to it and in the end it can become addicted. And to limit it we can create new activities that can be done on the sidelines of our busy life, so that we forget about addiction, and all of that there must still be intention and determination for addicts.

Professional help doesn't work on addiction like the way people perceived it to be, some people go as far as going meet a doctor to get some therapy and also rehabilitation but still, it will end with no positive result and that is what has been the reality, so just as you said, it is better not to get involved in any addictive activities or substance, because withdrawal process is not that easy to achieve on the long run.
But then a change of the environment can help you reduce the hold of addiction on the addicted and this can even go as far as erasing the memory from the victim but the majority of the efforts must come from the individual involved.

Agreed, doesn't matter how much effort we try to give but it is very difficult to get rid of it at the end unless a gambler can improve his situation in time. However, if people want, it is possible to bring about their own change. Gambling is especially effective if one can change the environment. A gambler's change of environment and location is not very effective in changing his addiction. If a gambler's company changes there can be something significant. But in my opinion, if a gambler can practice responsible gambling without going into such wars, it will be effective for him. If a gambler can control his greediness, he is less likely to become addicted.

I know that nobody wanted to get caught in addiction but because of some influence from friends and other gamblers, that gonna happen.
The problem now is how to get out of the cage of addiction since we know that it doesn't work easily especially if a gambler doesn't help themselves. Maybe, if we are serious to stick on our limitations and make it a habit from the start, definitely, we don't get into this tough situation.

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Quote from: Odusko on May 13, 2023, 05:29:44 AM

Quote from: bitzizzix on May 13, 2023, 05:05:10 AM

Professional help only helps a little because there is a time limit in helping, and indeed the most helpful and influential are the people closest to him. Like family, partners, friends and others, because they will always be with us and can help prevent it if they care.
and indeed when we are addicted to something it is very difficult for us to overcome, it is better not to get used to it and in the end it can become addicted. And to limit it we can create new activities that can be done on the sidelines of our busy life, so that we forget about addiction, and all of that there must still be intention and determination for addicts.

Professional help doesn't work on addiction like the way people perceived it to be, some people go as far as going meet a doctor to get some therapy and also rehabilitation but still, it will end with no positive result and that is what has been the reality, so just as you said, it is better not to get involved in any addictive activities or substance, because withdrawal process is not that easy to achieve on the long run.
But then a change of the environment can help you reduce the hold of addiction on the addicted and this can even go as far as erasing the memory from the victim but the majority of the efforts must come from the individual involved.

Agreed, doesn't matter how much effort we try to give but it is very difficult to get rid of it at the end unless a gambler can improve his situation in time. However, if people want, it is possible to bring about their own change. Gambling is especially effective if one can change the environment. A gambler's change of environment and location is not very effective in changing his addiction. If a gambler's company changes there can be something significant. But in my opinion, if a gambler can practice responsible gambling without going into such wars, it will be effective for him. If a gambler can control his greediness, he is less likely to become addicted.

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on April 25, 2023, 06:30:54 AM

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It is natural that your friends are comparing investing in Bitcoin with gambling, if they have no idea about investing in Bitcoin they will compare Bitcoin and gambling at the same time. A few days ago, Warren Buffett compared Bitcoin to a gambling coin. If a world famous person like Warren Buffett can compare bitcoin to gambling coin then your friends will invest in bitcoin and gambling as same..I don't see anything wrong with the comparison that the game will be the same and of equal value. But apparently Bitcoin and gambling are not the same thing. If you place a bet in gambling you have two possibilities, either you won't win or you lose. But if you invest in bitcoins and save those invested bitcoins for future price rise, you are sure to get profit. Such profits in gamblingIt is not possible to give chances with guaranteed availability.

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In as much as a Bitcoin investor spends enough time to study their charts and base their investment on their interpretation of the chart the studied they are far from gambling. But a Bitcoin investor who simply invests because everyone is investing and doesn't even know how to do research on their investment is a gambler.

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Gambling (also known as betting or gaming) is the wagering of something of value ("the stakes") on a random event with the intent of winning something else of value, where instances of strategy are discounted

So where strategy is not adopted or the strategy is not fully certain be it in gambling or Bitcoin investment the fellow is simply a gambler.

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Quote from: bitzizzix on May 13, 2023, 05:05:10 AM

Professional help only helps a little because there is a time limit in helping, and indeed the most helpful and influential are the people closest to him. Like family, partners, friends and others, because they will always be with us and can help prevent it if they care.

Professionals can help if the person who is already addicted is willing to admit that he is suffering from addictions,
close relatives and friends are those who can assist him to realize that problem and when the person is ready to
accept it will be easy to cure this as self-will is the best solution to quit away from addictions.

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and indeed when we are addicted to something it is very difficult for us to overcome, it is better not to get used to it and in the end it can become addicted.

Very difficult as you always have the reason when you are not willing to admit that there's already a problem
inside you that's already un-controllable.

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And to limit it we can create new activities that can be done on the sidelines of our busy life, so that we forget about addiction and all of that there must still be intention and determination for addicts.

You can divert your attentions with the help of your love ones' you'll be able to keep yourself busy away from
thinking about any gambling related activities.

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Quote from: Odusko on May 13, 2023, 05:29:44 AM

Quote from: bitzizzix on May 13, 2023, 05:05:10 AM

Professional help only helps a little because there is a time limit in helping, and indeed the most helpful and influential are the people closest to him. Like family, partners, friends and others, because they will always be with us and can help prevent it if they care.
and indeed when we are addicted to something it is very difficult for us to overcome, it is better not to get used to it and in the end it can become addicted. And to limit it we can create new activities that can be done on the sidelines of our busy life, so that we forget about addiction, and all of that there must still be intention and determination for addicts.

Professional help doesn't work on addiction like the way people perceived it to be, some people go as far as going meet a doctor to get some therapy and also rehabilitation but still, it will end with no positive result and that is what has been the reality, so just as you said, it is better not to get involved in any addictive activities or substance, because withdrawal process is not that easy to achieve on the long run.
But then a change of the environment can help you reduce the hold of addiction on the addicted and this can even go as far as erasing the memory from the victim but the majority of the efforts must come from the individual involved.

Any help to be received best is rhe ones that comes through our sincere determination in gambling, we can hire a professional psychologist or metal physiotherapist to engage us on this gambling responsible, but when our mind isbnot turned away from it completely, we will just hear but not act what they have instructed, it is very easy to control and emotion for addiction from the early stages before it escalated to he advanced stages which are likely uncontrollable, change in environment can also help and any other thing that could facilitate gambling irresponsible to be well tackled with, including having access to money to be use for gambling at all times.

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Quote from: bitzizzix on May 13, 2023, 05:05:10 AM

Professional help only helps a little because there is a time limit in helping, and indeed the most helpful and influential are the people closest to him. Like family, partners, friends and others, because they will always be with us and can help prevent it if they care.
and indeed when we are addicted to something it is very difficult for us to overcome, it is better not to get used to it and in the end it can become addicted. And to limit it we can create new activities that can be done on the sidelines of our busy life, so that we forget about addiction, and all of that there must still be intention and determination for addicts.

Professional help doesn't work on addiction like the way people perceived it to be, some people go as far as going meet a doctor to get some therapy and also rehabilitation but still, it will end with no positive result and that is what has been the reality, so just as you said, it is better not to get involved in any addictive activities or substance, because withdrawal process is not that easy to achieve on the long run.
But then a change of the environment can help you reduce the hold of addiction on the addicted and this can even go as far as erasing the memory from the victim but the majority of the efforts must come from the individual involved.

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Quote from: Kasabus on May 11, 2023, 02:42:34 PM

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There are already many gamblers who want the same thing as you and unfortunately only a few can afford to be able to stay safe while reducing gambling because gambling is an activity that is difficult to stop because of curiosity and domains that are difficult to stop.
What's more, for those who have truly become an addict, it will be more difficult to reduce it, even forgetting about gambling for a moment will never be possible if someone is already an addict.
That is why it is important for a gambler to limit and reduce the gambling sessions that are carried out in order to avoid excessive gambling addiction.

Yes, it's true. The only thing that can help these gambling addicts is to seek help from the professionals because even if they want to change for the better, it will be so hard for them to take those words into action as they don't have that much strength left to battle their desires towards gambling. That is why it's really much better for us and especially for those who are planning to start their fate towards gambling to view gambling as a form of entertainment and a past time, not a way to earn another money because if that's your way, there's a huge chance that the opposite will be given to you and that is losses.

The help of professionals will have no effect in being able to help gambling addicts quit their addiction.
The main factor for a gambling addict to be able to stop and get better is the family, where if the family always provides support and accompanies him to move towards more positive things and also provides some positive activities such as work or other activities then a addict can feel pleasure and gradually forget gambling.
It's just that it's difficult for gambling addicts to have a family that wants to always help them because this requires a lot of time and extra patience because they have to supervise and direct every action they take.
At first they also thought of gambling as a place of fun and entertainment, but over time, because some money was lost because they lost, they became curious and chased after victory, which made them fall into the gambling pit.

Professional help only helps a little because there is a time limit in helping, and indeed the most helpful and influential are the people closest to him. Like family, partners, friends and others, because they will always be with us and can help prevent it if they care.
and indeed when we are addicted to something it is very difficult for us to overcome, it is better not to get used to it and in the end it can become addicted. And to limit it we can create new activities that can be done on the sidelines of our busy life, so that we forget about addiction and all of that there must still be intention and determination for addicts.

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Quote from: Kasabus on May 11, 2023, 02:42:34 PM

Quote from: tusandii on April 25, 2023, 09:17:27 AM

There are already many gamblers who want the same thing as you and unfortunately only a few can afford to be able to stay safe while reducing gambling because gambling is an activity that is difficult to stop because of curiosity and domains that are difficult to stop.
What's more, for those who have truly become an addict, it will be more difficult to reduce it, even forgetting about gambling for a moment will never be possible if someone is already an addict.
That is why it is important for a gambler to limit and reduce the gambling sessions that are carried out in order to avoid excessive gambling addiction.

Yes, it's true. The only thing that can help these gambling addicts is to seek help from the professionals because even if they want to change for the better, it will be so hard for them to take those words into action as they don't have that much strength left to battle their desires towards gambling. That is why it's really much better for us and especially for those who are planning to start their fate towards gambling to view gambling as a form of entertainment and a past time, not a way to earn another money because if that's your way, there's a huge chance that the opposite will be given to you and that is losses.

The help of professionals will have no effect in being able to help gambling addicts quit their addiction.
The main factor for a gambling addict to be able to stop and get better is the family, where if the family always provides support and accompanies him to move towards more positive things and also provides some positive activities such as work or other activities then a addict can feel pleasure and gradually forget gambling.
It's just that it's difficult for gambling addicts to have a family that wants to always help them because this requires a lot of time and extra patience because they have to supervise and direct every action they take.
At first they also thought of gambling as a place of fun and entertainment, but over time, because some money was lost because they lost, they became curious and chased after victory, which made them fall into the gambling pit.

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Quote from: blockman on May 12, 2023, 05:27:21 PM

~snip~Just as what we mostly say about gambling that it's intended to have fun and people win for sometimes but not at most times. You choose what you want to argue with and people might have that misconception about gambling and investing. Those that are not yet educated yet, gambling isn't investing because I get that a lot of time and saw people say that it has no difference.

Gambling is just a game to spend free time. But with bets made, gambling can also be a place to earn income. But that is very risky, like a slot game that only presses Spin and is just waiting for the jackpot to appear. But it won't be that easy, all gambling programs have been set in such a way, there will be some wins but there will be more losses. and Gambling also cannot be equated with investment, because there is no guarantee of winning. Gambling is still gambling and not for investment.

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Quote from: SirLancelot on May 12, 2023, 03:31:46 PM

Casinos don't promise you easy money or any money at all, casinos themselves warn the gamblers and say that they should only gamble the money they afford to lose and it's the consent of the gamblers that they gamble their money in a casino and hope to get a lot of money in return which is not what gambling is for.

You can have some fun, spend some money by spinning some slots or play a hand or two at a Poker table, but don't expect that you are going to get money out of it, if you get something, consider it a bonus for the time and money you've spent.

but in the minds of gamblers, there will always be the ambition to get a big win. that's why they will always come back to the casino. fewer gamblers are aware they will continue to lose their money. and more of the gamblers play in the casino like addicted people. although there are gamblers who do go to the casino to have fun with games that they have to pay for. but still, there is a feeling of wanting to get a big win.

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Quote from: SirLancelot on May 12, 2023, 03:31:46 PM

Casinos don't promise you easy money or any money at all, casinos themselves warn the gamblers and say that they should only gamble the money they afford to lose and it's the consent of the gamblers that they gamble their money in a casino and hope to get a lot of money in return which is not what gambling is for.

And we know that casinos are a business that they earn from their customer's money and losses. It's true that they don't promise money for their gamblers but they need to win it over their system and choose games that gamblers want to gamble with.

Quote from: SirLancelot on May 12, 2023, 03:31:46 PM

You can have some fun, spend some money by spinning some slots or play a hand or two at a Poker table, but don't expect that you are going to get money out of it, if you get something, consider it a bonus for the time and money you've spent.

Just as what we mostly say about gambling that it's intended to have fun and people win for sometimes but not at most times. You choose what you want to argue with and people might have that misconception about gambling and investing. Those that are not yet educated yet, gambling isn't investing because I get that a lot of time and saw people say that it has no difference.

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Quote from: nullama on May 08, 2023, 08:15:21 PM

Buying and selling altcoins is basically gambling, and you end up paying lots in fees that are basically part of the thing. The people running those altcoins end up with most of the money of the gamblers.

It's the same thing over and over, casinos, altcoins, etc. The promise of easy money but in reality they take your money. It's only easy money for the casinos and whoever created the altcoins.

Casinos don't promise you easy money or any money at all, casinos themselves warn the gamblers and say that they should only gamble the money they afford to lose and it's the consent of the gamblers that they gamble their money in a casino and hope to get a lot of money in return which is not what gambling is for.

You can have some fun, spend some money by spinning some slots or play a hand or two at a Poker table, but don't expect that you are going to get money out of it, if you get something, consider it a bonus for the time and money you've spent.

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Quote from: Westinhome on May 06, 2023, 04:53:01 AM

Gambling is not the addiction based game,but you become the one.If you play the game with the intention of winning the money.If the game strategy was not satisfying by your methods,then you would face such consequences.The gambling should be played based on the way of getting entertainment from it.Some gamblers had the attitude of playing till the money get bank corrupt.When you get some loss,you should hold till the game strategy was created by your new game strategy.

I believe gambling intoxicates gamblers to the extent that they don't realize it until they are fully addicted to it. It's just a matter of time for someone who is not self-determined and also lacks self-control to become overruled by gambling. Gambling mess with their minds, and they are like, "I will not stop now, I might be close to my chance of winning, and quitting now is not a good idea." This is just some kind of elution they don't get off until they totally go bankrupt at that moment. One can enjoy the money that comes from winning games and not just specifically the fun they derive, but I just advise that no gambler should see gambling as the only means of solving their financial problems, they might even end up adding to them because, when a person is not doing any other job apart from gambling, gradually they get themselves so drawn to it as if they are just enjoying the fun until they become so addictive that they begin to feel they could make a good living out of it.

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Quote from: Finestream on April 28, 2023, 07:25:24 AM

Bitcoin investing could fall into gambling if you are just investing because of greed, because your friends tell you to do so. If you are not actually aware of the risks you are taking and have no prior knowledge and experience about investing, surely the outcome will certainly like gambling. However, if you invest because you have gained utmost knowledge about bitcoin and you believe that it could bring you life changing profits, then most likely you will achieve a positive outcome that’s too far from gambling. But with gambling, no matter how good or expert you are in it, you will never give yourself opportunities to win because when you are already winning some profits, you still continue to gamble hoping for bigger profits, but eventually you lose them all and used up all your winnings.

Agree with these. Some of the people who gamble often have a same story where whenever they get to win some money, they tend to not take the profit but get fed up by their idea that they can get more profit. It is like they do not have that self control that they mostly end up losing their money and the profit that they should already have. In gambling, since it is still a game of luck, you should know that it is not always your lucky day, but if it is, you should learn to calculate the risk and take home profit and basically learn when to stop. Indeed that gambling less or having specific limit would make the situation better so that you can get yourself out of being addicted to it. In terms of bitcoin investing, one should indeed have knowledge on it so that the risk would be minimize and have self control as well. Also, learn to bounce back to your losses since, unlike gambling, here you can get back from your losses and actually get the profit you want at the end of the day.

Well, regarding what was said about the investment, yes, there is great wisdom in what was said, many things can happen personally, those who want to invest in Bitcoin given what is happening in the market is a matter of decision, I would invest, but as soon as I have profits, then I would put a good withdrawal at once, only then would I see the benefits of this, of course each person has their way of thinking when they make investments and many things are consequently had according to the decision But of course, with the experience that some have had with the market, something can be learned and play the best role to earn money, which is what is wanted.

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Quote from: nullama on May 08, 2023, 08:15:21 PM

Buying and selling altcoins is basically gambling, and you end up paying lots in fees that are basically part of the thing. The people running those altcoins end up with most of the money of the gamblers.

It's the same thing over and over, casinos, altcoins, etc. The promise of easy money but in reality they take your money. It's only easy money for the casinos and whoever created the altcoins.

The things you said is true. This is happening in altcoins alot when they invite people to the telegram and advise wrong advise for people to invest in particular coin and if you do it will pump and after they sell high, it will drop and you will lose if you want to sell on the dump price. This practice with altcoins is what I think is like trading as gambling but this not the same with bitcoin. If bitcoin drop it will later rise but not like altcoins which will lead to permanent lose because some will die as the management pack up after scamming investors.

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