I can’t cope on my own. What do you think I should do? - page 10.

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Quote from: Nheer on August 21, 2023, 08:11:38 AM

I have been into sports betting for a while now and i am not really proud of my earliest experience in gambling, i feel like i am the most unlucky person in the world i lost a lot of games and also i lost a lot of money. I had knowledge about football and basketball games and they were my most picked games and even so I kept losing all my bets and even when i try to play safe i still end up losing and whenever i ask my friends for games we still end up losing the bet then i got tired and in the end i gave up and tried to quit gambling and I left it for some months. During this period my friends made a lot of money gambling and i was envious of them but it didn’t made me change my mind to start gambling over again.

Although it’s not easy, and once someone is into gambling, they find it difficult to stop it, I will still advise you to forget about the money your friends made for the past few months when you stop gambling. You need to find a way to keep yourself busy without thinking of gambling because if you do not stop it in the early stages, you may not stop it when you are used to it, and gambling is something that is very easy to get addicted to, so for that reason, you need to stop it now to avoid unnecessary stories.

However, you know this can also put you in a financial downturn. You may later experience financial problems because when you are losing and keep placing the bet and do not get anything from it, there will definitely be problems. However, I consider gambling a lucky thing, even though I know there is some analysis that needs to be done before placing the bet. So maybe you are not lucky to be a gambler; find another way around, mate.

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Quote from: Nheer on August 21, 2023, 08:11:38 AM

I have been into sports betting for a while now and i am not really proud of my earliest experience in gambling, i feel like i am the most unlucky person in the world i lost a lot of games and also i lost a lot of money. I had knowledge about football and basketball games and they were my most picked games and even so I kept losing all my bets and even when i try to play safe i still end up losing and whenever i ask my friends for games we still end up losing the bet then i got tired and in the end i gave up and tried to quit gambling and I left it for some months. During this period my friends made a lot of money gambling and i was envious of them but it didn’t made me change my mind to start gambling over again.

Some months later i came across a telegram channel and i joined, it was a gambling channel that posted free sports bets for its users and there is also a VIP section where users subscribe for some sure games. I am well aware of all these techniques used by scammers so I decided to observe the channel and follow up games posted and I discovered he won most of the games and had about 80% victory rate. Then after some time I decided to try my luck again so I played one of his games and i won i was so happy and it was as though the curse placed on me has been lifted and I tried some more games and i won again and again and since the beginning of the new season i only lost twice and i am now proud of my gambling achievements.

According to the channel free games are limited and we can only enjoy for a month and now the month is almost over and only VIPs will be entitled to games when the month elapses. I have been having doubts whether to join the VIP zone because I don’t want to be scammed that’s why i want to know your opinions.

What do you all think i should do?

Stop. Forget about all the money that you've spent on it so far and accept it's gone, you will not earn it back in the same way. Take it as a very expensive lesson for what you should commit to never doing again. The toughest part of breaking the habit is at the beginning - the first few weeks and days, as any ex-smoker will tell you. You've fallen into and reinforced these habits over a long time, so you need to completely rewire your brain to get happiness from other activities. If you can, choose a time - ideally a holiday - where you will be able to completely break away from your current scene for a week or two, then you must stay away from it entirely when you get back, there is no "just a little bit" if you want to regain control. Determine your trigger points, like if it was the first thing you do in the day after starting your PC - find something else to do in the morning. If you play shooter games or if you're feeling sad, then have a tendency to jump on to a sports betting site after, realize that these subtle connections have built up in your mind and most importantly - know when they're happening, break the cycle and be alert that you do not fall into the same pattern again.

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You say that you were lucky with free games from this channel, so check how much it costs to go VIP and don't spend your own money on this, but money won from betting with the free channel. I'd call that playing it safe. If he wants $100, make sure you have more than that from gambling with his free tips and then join the VIP, being careful you don't go over your limits. Only bet with the money you gained from this channel. Worst case scenario you'll be back to square 1 with the knowledge that they're scammers. After all, you can help the community by exposing them.

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Quote from: Cantsay on August 21, 2023, 08:21:17 AM

Quote from: Nheer on August 21, 2023, 08:11:38 AM

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What do you all think i should do?

I haven’t really used any vip telegram channels for myself, I do look at them the same way I do for those channels that offers trading signals I think of them as scam and I don’t want to risk paying for something that I will end up regretting.

Although, I have heard of someone who uses a vip channel and based on his experience, not all the games that are being predicted in their vip channel are sure, but if it was to be compared to the the number of wins he has made its cool.
But, if you ever want to pay for any vip channel make sure you’re ready to lose the money that you’re using to pay because there’s a higher probability of you losing your money and still lose most of your bets so in a way I guess it’s a 50-50 something, it’s either you profit or you lose.

I avoid any telegram transactions. I do receive lots of DM and offers but I ignore them. For me, Telegram is one of the havens of scammers. So @OP if you are half-hearted on being VIP then don't avail for VIP. And if that VIP status can be earned through wagering then just wager your way to the VIP but if you have something to pay or a subscription like option to avail for VIP then I believe you have to look for elsewhere where VIP status is dependent on your wagering done on the gambling site.

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Quote from: Nheer on August 21, 2023, 08:11:38 AM

According to the channel free games are limited and we can only enjoy for a month and now the month is almost over and only VIPs will be entitled to games when the month elapses. I have been having doubts whether to join the VIP zone because I don’t want to be scammed that’s why i want to know your opinions.

What do you all think i should do?

You have been gambling for some years now, therefore you already have good experience. You have joined a telegram channel and you are experiencing wins and you love it. The one month is almost over, and you are undecided because you do not want to be scammed. The point of trying to summarize what you have written is that you should be able to smell a scam from afar. No risk no reward right? If you are scared that after paying for the VIP you may get scammed and you will not be able to face yourself, then don't pay. However, if your risk appetite is high, go in by all means. But take caution. That is my opinion.

I agree with you on the anxiety aspect of ops and his risk calculation, anyway, the ops may be sceptical due to what he has heard about paid signal subscriptions and their resultant failure to yield positive results, but what surprised me about the ops is that, he has been in the free telegram group for almost a month now and he has tried out some games that were posted for free in the group and he won some and also lost some of those games, he should take the VIP subscription the same way he takes the free bets.

Results won't be that different, and also I will like to advise the ops to use the money he won from the free games to subscribe to the monthly fees, so as not to be at a loss if the paid games did not work as expected or end up being scammed, but just as you said, ops should have been knowledgeable enough to notice of the group is fake or not because he has been on the group long enough to uncover any scammy activities.

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Nah, I won't pay for betting tips. I'd seen it many times and just like you who'd been losing a lot before, it could also happen to that paid sports betting channel. Remember, luck is not always on our side. So as long as you have the time to do your own research and follow your favorite teams and players then you should be fine. There are many threads here that discuss soccer and basketball and many are also sharing their bets. You can start comparing their pick to yours. You can also observe their bets so you can identify who's always winning and who's not.

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Quote from: michellee on August 21, 2023, 12:34:59 PM

That's the temptation they offer you by giving free signals for a month. I suggest not accepting their offer to join the VIP channel because I'm not sure their service will be as good as the free signal. They are used to doing that to attract more members to join their VIP signals.

Or you can ask one of the free members in the same group. Is he interested in joining his VIP signal or looking for another group? But it's better not to try to join but to use the money to bet and learn more about the sport you love at the same time.

Moreover, you say you know about football and basketball, so you should develop your analytical skills only. It gets better because you won't depend on any signal group. But if you never win again after this, you don't have to force yourself to keep betting on sports.

that would be the better thing to do. you won't form your own strategy if you will rely on these signals. and the truth is, no one can guarantee that you will have the same outcome when you finally decided to get the VIP subscription. the trial results may not be the same when you have the VIP status. but if you have extra funds and you think you can gain from having such status, then, by all means it is your choice to subscribe. but you can't blame anyone if after couple of months you are on the losing side already.

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You're the only one who can analyze it you said you have a winning run after joining the game, do a calculation if the VIP price is worth it and your winnings based on their tips are enough to regain your investment then its worth it, and better ask other members for feedbacks if its worth upgrading to VIP to gain more tips.
You are going to get scammed if their winning tips are not beyond average, VIP status on these gaming groups has exclusivity because they pay people to analyze something that will cost you time if you're going to do it by yourself and if you're not that good in analysis.

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Quote from: Nheer on August 21, 2023, 08:11:38 AM

What do you all think i should do?

If you can afford the VIP subscription try a monthly signal to test and ascertain the credibility of the telegram channel though you had confirmed that you had a consistent winning streaks during the free trials, I believe nothing will change if you subscribe to the VIP signals, however a trial will convince you and avoid any subscription more than a month atleast if you eventually pay for the monthly subscription you should be able to recoup the fee you paid for the VIP signals at the end of the month if your winnings is enough thereafter take a final decision whether to continue with them or not.

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That's the temptation they offer you by giving free signals for a month. I suggest not accepting their offer to join the VIP channel because I'm not sure their service will be as good as the free signal. They are used to doing that to attract more members to join their VIP signals.

Or you can ask one of the free members in the same group. Is he interested in joining his VIP signal or looking for another group? But it's better not to try to join but to use the money to bet and learn more about the sport you love at the same time.

Moreover, you say you know about football and basketball, so you should develop your analytical skills only. It gets better because you won't depend on any signal group. But if you never win again after this, you don't have to force yourself to keep betting on sports.

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Quote from: AbuBhakar on August 21, 2023, 08:57:49 AM

Quote from: Nheer on August 21, 2023, 08:11:38 AM

What do you all think i should do?

Rest from gambling and use different strategies on gambling since even with your comfortable sports bet pick is still not working on your side. It only shows that something is wrong on your analysis skills and you should analyze first before you start gambling again.

I usually play different games until I find a game that will give me a better winning probability. Gambling is still requires a lot of luck even on sportsbetting, you will need to experiment until you find the perfect game that will work for you. Just rest if gambling doesn’t give you entertainment and just a burden.

You think resting and strategy hopping is the solution? Look deeper! Every game, every bet, is meticulously crafted to milk your optimism dry. Your "perfect game" is a mirage. And the games that seem to offer better odds? They're mere traps, whispering sweet promises of winnings that will always remain out of reach.

Sports betting isnt just about luck. Its a predatory game preying on your emotional vulnerability. You keep searching for that winning strategy, hoping it will magically align with your misguided analysis skills. Wake up! Stop deluding yourself. Either you get ahead of the game by understanding its core mechanics, or you remain its pawn. There's no middle ground.

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In my opinion, you should not pay for access to a VIP chat to continue to receive such tips.
All this situation where you find yourself in is highly subjective, you started to get positive results after you went through a bad streak, it is easy for you to assume that their winning rates are very good, since you have given up on your capacity to predict outcomes by your own.

It is not about a curse as you have mentioned, it is about statistics.
People like you who cannot cope by their own are the main targets of scammers and you should not make groups like those your priority, your priority is supposed to be to recover trust in yourself, so no one will take advantage of you, OP.

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That's quite the journey, isn't it, from being a sad loser to having a fleeting taste of success? You know, you got off to a bad start, and now you believe that watching some odd channel will help you turn things around? Rethink that

Not to mention that there is no such thing as a "curse." Simply put, you lacked the appropriate tactics! Your original setbacks? purely due to your inexperience. And now you're infatuated with the success rate of some channel? It's simple to show off significant victories while concealing setbacks, let me tell you that. Ever consider that this 80% success rate could be a marketing gimmick?

Regarding the VIP area, it's traditional bait. They entice you in, give you a taste of success, and then? I dunno. Perhaps they are simply ready to swindle you once more! Are you prepared to suffer two burns? You're seeking feedback, right? This is mine: Stay astute. Avoid being seduced by a flashy VIP promise. Recall your prior setbacks and never allow anyone to take advantage of you

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Quote from: Nheer on August 21, 2023, 08:11:38 AM

According to the channel free games are limited and we can only enjoy for a month and now the month is almost over and only VIPs will be entitled to games when the month elapses. I have been having doubts whether to join the VIP zone because I don’t want to be scammed that’s why i want to know your opinions.

What do you all think i should do?

High chance that this is a scam. Sure bet can only be attain by match fixing or arbitrage betting which are both not allowed in the casino. A service that offers this kind of bet is either lying or will make your account put in danger since you will be connected to those players that is ban on the casino by choosing the same bet that already flagged a red tag for match fixing or arbitrage.

There's no guarantee profit on gambling. Invest on Bitcoin instead of gambling using this kind of method just to get profit.

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I only ever used these premium channels once, and never tried it again. In terms of win rate, they are really high, although most of them are games that we can easily predict without their help. Also, they don't have that much bets that get a lot of value so that's another thing that they failed to deliver on. 1.x odds are pretty common, though bets with 2.x odds are something that I don't see on them. They get you to profit, but it'll take a while before you break even from the expense you paid on subscribing to their channel.

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Quote from: Nheer on August 21, 2023, 08:11:38 AM

According to the channel free games are limited and we can only enjoy for a month and now the month is almost over and only VIPs will be entitled to games when the month elapses. I have been having doubts whether to join the VIP zone because I don’t want to be scammed that’s why i want to know your opinions.

What do you all think i should do?

You still have the passion to bet, and you have been trying and failing until you came across this particular group. I am sure you have learned a lot from the little games you have played on the group, and by now you should have little experience on how to place a sure bet.

Nevertheless, if you feel it is cool for you to subscribe to the VIP Channel, then you can do that. Since you are addicted to gambling and not willing to stop, leaving the group will not be the solution since you have testified that there is an 80% winning chance and you have experienced it while enjoying the first free month. Make sure you avoid being greedy.

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I have never used or subscribed to a VIP sports prediction channel before, so I clearly do not have any experience of how they really operate, and like you @Op, i also can not say that i am very proud with my gambling and betting experience so far, as i have lost far more games than I ever won, and to be honest, sometimes, i do feel like subscribing to such services, but knowing that most of them are just scammers looking for prey to feed on in the name of sharing sure bet/games, this just discourages me from participating in such services .

what I can say now is that, since you have tried this service and you seem satisfied with it, I personally believe that with the few games you have won through their free picks, you must have made enough profit to cover for the cost of subscribing for the VIP services, you can take your chances and try the VIP services out since you are losing nothing but only part of the profit you've made through the same service, if I was you, this is what I was going to do after all .

And I also don't mind you sharing the group or channel, I might want to check them out and possibly join, my pm is open just incase you cant or don't want to share the link to the group or channel publicly.

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OP you sound like someone who has taking gambling as a part-time job or a source of income for you whereas it's not meant to be that way. If you have been losing your bets for a long time now doesn't mean you are cursed it's part of gambling which some of us gamblers have experienced such times before and if you don't take hold for yourself you start thinking something is wrong with you just as you're doing now. Joining any channel for predictions tips isn't the solution, it might help but momentary as there's no 100% sure predictions.

You said you have been given two time free predictions tips from this telegram channel you just joined and the predictions all won, alright. I'll suggest you use the profit you made from those two winnings to pay the subscription and test the VIP section if you lose the first two predictions you get from the VIP section then stop from further subscription even if you won one don't continue cause it's mostly likely the channel is not reliable as their predictions is mainly just lucky ones.

But if they turn out to be scammer and had to ran away with your money at your first subscription then you still didn't lose anything as it's the money from the first two free predictions you used in subscribing.

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If there's payment required for that VIP group to join in then I won't waste time with them. It's a scammy type of scheme and you will end up getting maybe one tip and it's done.
Bet on the sport that you like. That way it will be easier to predict the outcome of the game. Don't waste money looking for a group that will give you tips about where you should bet with. Instead, use your free time watching the games and be updated with roster changes and injury news.

I have been following three different sports and somehow I could still end up winning my bets at a high percentage. You can do it too as long as you really love the sport that you will betting for. But just don't let emotions get the better of you.

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Quote from: Nheer on August 21, 2023, 08:11:38 AM

According to the channel free games are limited and we can only enjoy for a month and now the month is almost over and only VIPs will be entitled to games when the month elapses. I have been having doubts whether to join the VIP zone because I don’t want to be scammed that’s why i want to know your opinions.

What do you all think i should do?

Buddy, I think this is the time where you should reflect and decide on which path do you really want to invest it. Surely, your experiences tell you that something is not working. Even if it may work in the future, you just have to accept that your losses may probably more than your winnings. Worse, it may even accumulate more in the process, thereby making you stuck in that very position.

Ask yourself- what do you really want to do? Do you enjoy gambling due to the adrenaline kicking; or do you gamble for profit? Such answer will depend on what path you would choose and even if you decide to stay, you very well know that things are not working.

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