I can’t cope on my own. What do you think I should do? - page 6.

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Quote from: Dickiy on August 23, 2023, 11:46:02 AM

That's right, to be honest what you're saying makes a lot of sense and I understand that I'm kinda questioning this too. They are content creators and influencers who always suggest or recommend joining certain groups that they consider VIP and we can get a lot of things from there. That's right, there is no free lunch, after all, everyone wants money, that doesn't mean they are good, but they take advantage of opportunities in various places that they can reach and can get lots of members to then make a profit. inside it. If we really think logically then I think we will know the real truth in this context. The point is don't believe too much in anything that comes to you, look for the truth first and if it makes sense then go ahead.

Anyone can claim that they are a master of a certain game, it's easy to create a Telegram channel to attract people but we shouldn't fall for their trap as most of them are just aiming to make money from their victims. We should be skeptical not to easily fall for them.
Deep research is always important and keep in mind that gambling is a game of luck where your friends could be luckier than you or vice versa. You have to cope up with the risks and never expect that you can have the same path as others. If you are continuously losing, you better check your weaknesses and mistakes so you'll know how to make them right and more effective next time.

Yes, and they have many strategies or ways to make their actions or steps successful, so it is very possible that they will get a lot of profit from the many members who enter their network. I see them like they really give us what we need, they almost fully know what we need so it's hard to minimize things like this. Yes, that's right, their goal is nothing but to make a lot of profit and not at all think about their responsibilities as the owner of a network or certain groups. In this case, we really should be more able to be realistic, if indeed it doesn't make sense then avoid and reject all temptations that come. To be honest, I also don't think that a person can depend on other people or on other people's knowledge in gambling, how can they use this method but on the other hand they also depend on luck.
I'm not going to put too much faith in anything that comes along, and I'm going back to assuming it's just a matter of luck.

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Quote from: Nheer on August 21, 2023, 07:11:38 AM

I have been into sports betting for a while now and i am not really proud of my earliest experience in gambling, i feel like i am the most unlucky person in the world i lost a lot of games and also i lost a lot of money. I had knowledge about football and basketball games and they were my most picked games and even so I kept losing all my bets and even when i try to play safe i still end up losing and whenever i ask my friends for games we still end up losing the bet then i got tired and in the end i gave up and tried to quit gambling and I left it for some months. During this period my friends made a lot of money gambling and i was envious of them but it didn’t made me change my mind to start gambling over again.

Some months later i came across a telegram channel and i joined, it was a gambling channel that posted free sports bets for its users and there is also a VIP section where users subscribe for some sure games. I am well aware of all these techniques used by scammers so I decided to observe the channel and follow up games posted and I discovered he won most of the games and had about 80% victory rate. Then after some time I decided to try my luck again so I played one of his games and i won i was so happy and it was as though the curse placed on me has been lifted and I tried some more games and i won again and again and since the beginning of the new season i only lost twice and i am now proud of my gambling achievements.

According to the channel free games are limited and we can only enjoy for a month and now the month is almost over and only VIPs will be entitled to games when the month elapses. I have been having doubts whether to join the VIP zone because I don’t want to be scammed that’s why i want to know your opinions.

What do you all think i should do?

It's really hard to give you advise though, I mean this is sports gambling so there is a 50/5 chance that you might lose or have a string of bad luck if all the tips suddenly goes South we can't really control that.

So the only thing I can say is that if you are willing to take the risk and buy those VIP zone then go for it. Just try to balance how much you are going to pay them with how much you are going to gamble. What I mean is that at least there is a reward at the end for you. Maybe winning some money in the next couple of months will be a good gauge. Goodluck!!

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Quote from: Nheer on August 23, 2023, 05:15:49 PM

Quote from: summonerrk on August 22, 2023, 12:07:00 AM

I think you should make decisions only on your own and not look around, and also try to control your expenses if you still don't do it. In gambling, you need to be able to analyze information only with your mind, because we all start like this.

In the end my decision is all that matters and of course i am the one to make the decision but I really need all you guidance and advice from everyone so I don’t make the wrong decision.

And after getting lots of suggestions from friends, what decision did you make? Did you join the VIP group or did you decide to learn more and seek more information so you can improve your analytical skills? We hope you are not wrong in deciding because you already know the risks of every decision, so you need to think about it beforehand.

But I see you still have doubts about joining the VIP group because you don't want to be cheated by those you don't know. And if that is your choice, you already know what you must do. You can analyze better by learning from sources you already know. It's worth it for you because you don't have to pay a fee to join the VIP group and can also use the money to bet.

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Quote from: letteredhub on August 23, 2023, 05:25:24 PM

Forget about those telegram channels VIP games they're of no good in contrast to games picked and predicted by you. In my opinion you are to hasty to receiving wins, this is gambling it's not some business investment stuff you should be expecting concurrent returns of profits. If you have been losing so badly then you should calm down and review your bets and how you decides on them, it's possible you can find out why you're losing so badly.

Maybe your pattern or strategy is very poor and you just need to improve it. Because you have idea about football doesn't guarantee you winnings, you still got to work on your strategies, pattern of analysing games that decides what your prediction should be. If you can just do a reevaluation of your betting strategy you can end up having a different result rather than casting your hopes vip games from some random telegram group.

Yes, on the time that you are already get bored on having those losses basing up with your own analysis and bet predictions and then suddenly you do able to find out some chance for you to make wins
on others suggestions like groups something like this then you would really be molding up that kind of idea in mind that you are really that profitable if you do tend to follow those groups in terms of their
picks. Well, we do have our own choice since we are making use of our own money to make bets on which it would really be just that common that you would really be that not listening others advises.
If you do find out that it would really be that relevant for you to make bets on using up their suggestions then its your choice, sooner or later you would be able to find out the difference in terms of
long term betting. It might be that positive or negative basing up on what you are really that dealing with. You are the ones who would really be able to find out because we cant really say that there are
no tipsters in the market would be offering such service if they are really that good when it comes to their betting choices.

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Quote from: serjent05 on August 23, 2023, 06:03:48 PM

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The problem is probably the cost of a VIP subscription. I guess @OP doesn't feel comfortable spending the amount of money to subscribe to the VIP status and use the platform services. If that is so, I would say if there is even a small hint of doubt, follow your instinct. The greed makes you confused @OP. If you are winning enough, be contented with it, it may be bait or not but@OP if you are not comfortable, don't subscribe.

^ It makes sense and I think greed can cloud our judgment, pushing us into decisions that probably do not fit our best interests. If your current winning streak brings you satisfaction and financial stability, probably it is best to appreciate what you have and not risk it further. While the VIP option might hold promise, it is important to prioritize your comfort and financial security.
It should be, you have come a long way from your initial struggles. If your gut is telling you that the VIP subscription is not the right move, then it's perfectly okay to hold back. Your peace of mind is priceless, and it is okay to be content with the progress you have made, that just my personal opinion.

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Quote from: Eureka_07 on August 23, 2023, 04:20:57 PM

Quote from: Nheer on August 21, 2023, 07:11:38 AM

The title of this thread doesn't quite align with the idea you want to convey to us... I initially thought it was entirely focused on gambling addiction or a similar topic.

It is still in line with gambling activity, and the title seems okay since he does not know what to do and is confused about whether to grab the VIP status on a certain platform or not. Thus, the word he can't cope on his own.

Quote from: Eureka_07 on August 23, 2023, 04:20:57 PM

Moreover, if you're already experiencing significant winnings by following someone's betting advice, shouldn't that be satisfying in itself? Nevertheless, if you're determined to join their VIP program, take the time to observe first before placing bets. Afterward, consider following their predictions if you find them beneficial for your situation.

The problem is probably the cost of a VIP subscription. I guess @OP doesn't feel comfortable spending the amount of money to subscribe to the VIP status and use the platform services. If that is so, I would say if there is even a small hint of doubt, follow your instinct. The greed makes you confused @OP. If you are winning enough, be contented with it, it may be bait or not but@OP if you are not comfortable, don't subscribe.

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Forget about those telegram channels VIP games they're of no good in contrast to games picked and predicted by you. In my opinion you are to hasty to receiving wins, this is gambling it's not some business investment stuff you should be expecting concurrent returns of profits. If you have been losing so badly then you should calm down and review your bets and how you decides on them, it's possible you can find out why you're losing so badly.

Maybe your pattern or strategy is very poor and you just need to improve it. Because you have idea about football doesn't guarantee you winnings, you still got to work on your strategies, pattern of analysing games that decides what your prediction should be. If you can just do a reevaluation of your betting strategy you can end up having a different result rather than casting your hopes vip games from some random telegram group.

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Thank you all, I appreciate all your contributions and advice, i have taken my time to go through all posts and i have really learned so much. I have finally made my decision not to go through with the VIP membership, i think it will be better if i rather improve my knowledge about gambling than to rely on someone else

Quote from: Davidvictorson on August 21, 2023, 07:21:33 AM

If you are scared that after paying for the VIP you may get scammed and you will not be able to face yourself, then don't pay. However, if your risk appetite is high, go in by all means. But take caution. That is my opinion.

Great opinion. I also sense scam and it will be a bad thing for me to get scammed not because of the money lost but because of my knowledge here in the forum, it will be bad that i got scammed after learning so much here.

Quote from: Viscore on August 21, 2023, 07:55:03 AM

Your problem is that you've already lost a lot of money despite being new to gambling. I would say your approach is incorrect. The right thing to do is to start small and progress gradually. Once you feel you've gained consistency in winning, that's the time you can wager larger amounts of money.

Yeah i agree with you that my approach was wrong and my strategy was rather looking for bigger odds which is usually a difficult outcome so maybe that was why i lost a lot of games and i was looking to win big intead of playing it safe. Everyone loves winning and I wouldn’t lie winning some games through that channel made me really happy and I already have so much believe in his games than mine and with so I’d rather quit gambling than to believe my own games.

Quote from: Altryist on August 21, 2023, 08:58:50 AM

in a month or two, they can also have a losing streak, no one is safe from this.

You have a point there too, winning now maybe based on pure luck and things may turn the other way round in a few months and we may actually experience back to back losses. I’m aware that gambling has a 50/50 win probability and it was stated in the channel that there is no 100% win guarantee so I would be rather careful dealing with their games.

Quote from: summonerrk on August 22, 2023, 12:07:00 AM

I think you should make decisions only on your own and not look around, and also try to control your expenses if you still don't do it. In gambling, you need to be able to analyze information only with your mind, because we all start like this.

In the end my decision is all that matters and of course i am the one to make the decision but I really need all you guidance and advice from everyone so I don’t make the wrong decision.

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Quote from: Nheer on August 21, 2023, 07:11:38 AM

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According to the channel free games are limited and we can only enjoy for a month and now the month is almost over and only VIPs will be entitled to games when the month elapses. I have been having doubts whether to join the VIP zone because I don’t want to be scammed that’s why i want to know your opinions.

What do you all think i should do?

I'm confused about what advice to give you, but if you really feel that the channel has benefited you so far and doesn't show you want to go in the direction of scam, then there's nothing wrong with joining in, especially if the fees charged are still affordable for you to pay. sometimes you have to spend a certain amount of money to get maximum results on your bets, they have also helped you with betting predictions that have almost reached 80% effectiveness.

I'm a little curious about the link from that group, can you usually tell it in this topic?

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Quote from: Nheer on August 21, 2023, 07:11:38 AM

I have been into sports betting for a while now and i am not really proud of my earliest experience in gambling, i feel like i am the most unlucky person in the world i lost a lot of games and also i lost a lot of money. I had knowledge about football and basketball games and they were my most picked games and even so I kept losing all my bets and even when i try to play safe i still end up losing and whenever i ask my friends for games we still end up losing the bet then i got tired and in the end i gave up and tried to quit gambling and I left it for some months. During this period my friends made a lot of money gambling and i was envious of them but it didn’t made me change my mind to start gambling over again.

Some months later i came across a telegram channel and i joined, it was a gambling channel that posted free sports bets for its users and there is also a VIP section where users subscribe for some sure games. I am well aware of all these techniques used by scammers so I decided to observe the channel and follow up games posted and I discovered he won most of the games and had about 80% victory rate. Then after some time I decided to try my luck again so I played one of his games and i won i was so happy and it was as though the curse placed on me has been lifted and I tried some more games and i won again and again and since the beginning of the new season i only lost twice and i am now proud of my gambling achievements.

According to the channel free games are limited and we can only enjoy for a month and now the month is almost over and only VIPs will be entitled to games when the month elapses. I have been having doubts whether to join the VIP zone because I don’t want to be scammed that’s why i want to know your opinions.

What do you all think i should do?

Gambling on telegram is a definite no.

You should trust your first gut feeling or "instincts". If something is too good to be true then it probably isnt. Furthermore you already know that telegram is a cesspool of scammers and shady services. They use psychological methods to lure in their victims. The fact that they not only caught your attention but managed to keep you interested is a big warning sign. Don't ignore it.

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Quote from: Nheer on August 21, 2023, 07:11:38 AM

The title of this thread doesn't quite align with the idea you want to convey to us... I initially thought it was entirely focused on gambling addiction or a similar topic.

Moreover, if you're already experiencing significant winnings by following someone's betting advice, shouldn't that be satisfying in itself? Nevertheless, if you're determined to join their VIP program, take the time to observe first before placing bets. Afterward, consider following their predictions if you find them beneficial for your situation.

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Quote from: Apocollapse on August 21, 2023, 09:17:24 AM

There's a chance if they're just lucky by giving correct prediction, but there's a chance if they're a legit channel.

Since the result you're using their predictions are good, I can't comment too much especially you're also know if there are so many scam channels.

Always remember this, gambling is only for fun, don't really looking to make money through gambling. If you're looking for money and you're not win after joining their VIP zone, then gambling isn't for you.

I can sense that scamming will about to take place after series of winnings, that’s why I can’t push you to subscribe on this VIP zone. However, you should know also if you are sensing a scam since you’re quite gambling for long now so probably you have heard already stories about gambling scams. But still, in the end, if you still want to try, then go but never risk big amount of money. You can subscribe now but when you see you’re not actually winning then unsubscribe from it immediately. That’s the only solution so you won’t never regret things in the future.

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I think you should just quit gambling all together. No offense, but it would seem that you’ve got a bit of a gambling addiction. At least that’s what it sounds like to me. I think you’d be better off that way then you’d not have to worry about losing money. Just take the money you would normally use to gamble and invest it. That’s what I would do.

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Quote from: Nheer on August 21, 2023, 07:11:38 AM

What do you all think i should do?

It is easy,you said that they have given you games that you played and won. You have only loss twice and you also feel that the curse on you not a win is broken. I don't know how much the telegram people do collect for subscription but if it isn't much, you should also consider how much profit that you have benefited from this group. If you have made a lot of profit then I will ask you to give them a trial and pay for their subscription and see how it goes with your game because if what you have profited from them is bigger than the amount of subscription, I don't think it is a scam. If it happens that after subscription and the results aren't favouring, and they still request for more money,you should hesitate to run away from them. On the other hand if you feel that they are luring you into their scam,then forget about subscription and see if the curse on your winning has been broken really.

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You said that you know football and basketball, that's more than enough already to gamble on your own. Losing is there even if you join that VIP status that they're offering.

Just accept the fact that we win sometimes and lose many times. This is the reality in gambling and these channels could give us the benefit depending on your experience.

But for the majority, we're not really in favor of those.

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Quote from: Nheer on August 21, 2023, 07:11:38 AM

I have been into sports betting for a while now and i am not really proud of my earliest experience in gambling, i feel like i am the most unlucky person in the world i lost a lot of games and also i lost a lot of money.

The name of the game is resilience! Believe it or not but everyone goes through a bad run of games and if you keep playing sooner or later you get to hit some winners.

Btw, the more you play with accumulators the more your chances of losing, so to be on the winning side try single bets.

Quote from: Nheer on August 21, 2023, 07:11:38 AM

I had knowledge about football and basketball games and they were my most picked games and even so I kept losing all my bets and even when i try to play safe i still end up losing and whenever i ask my friends for games we still end up losing the bet then i got tired and in the end i gave up and tried to quit gambling

These so called safe bets are actually the money traps, and if you keep playing them its difficult to recover once you hit a loser and overall you need like X4 , X5 to win back which messes with your physiology which leads to more losses. I suggest changing strategy if you still gambling.

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I always consider that if someone is claiming he is master at gambling and winning all the time why would he need to sell vip group memberships? Its obvious that even if guy is experienced, he is trying to generate money by selling memberships. Its scam in my opinion but some people think its "you get what you want" type of business. He is literally selling you strategies sugar coated by group memberships.

Correct, they're actually make money through selling memberships. Motivators are make money by views on Youtube, influencers are making money through advertisement or affiliate marketing. There's no free lunch, they're just find a way to make money and we should use our logic about it.

It's similar like an old friend contact and act very nice to you, that's not because he want to built a good relationship with you, but he want to ask for money.

That's right, to be honest what you're saying makes a lot of sense and I understand that I'm kinda questioning this too. They are content creators and influencers who always suggest or recommend joining certain groups that they consider VIP and we can get a lot of things from there. That's right, there is no free lunch, after all, everyone wants money, that doesn't mean they are good, but they take advantage of opportunities in various places that they can reach and can get lots of members to then make a profit. inside it. If we really think logically then I think we will know the real truth in this context. The point is don't believe too much in anything that comes to you, look for the truth first and if it makes sense then go ahead.

Anyone can claim that they are a master of a certain game, it's easy to create a Telegram channel to attract people but we shouldn't fall for their trap as most of them are just aiming to make money from their victims. We should be skeptical not to easily fall for them.
Deep research is always important and keep in mind that gambling is a game of luck where your friends could be luckier than you or vice versa. You have to cope up with the risks and never expect that you can have the same path as others. If you are continuously losing, you better check your weaknesses and mistakes so you'll know how to make them right and more effective next time.

Better do on your own rather than on making yourself that be relying on what other peoples picks whether a group or a certain individual.Nothing beats out if you are really making out bets out of your own analysis rather than

on others which is something that you would be needing to mind off realistically. On the time that you do make yourself get convinced that they are really making some wins on your part on higher chance then its your
choice on paying up with that VIP fees but actually its not really that something that would really be that recommended because its true that there are lots of those fraudsters who do claim out on having that good
percentage winning bets and its not really that something that solid to believe on just because you've seen several or couple of wins on your betting.

Better to bet on your own basing up with your own knowledge and analysis rather than on heavily relying with other picks which arent supposed to be done and its not worth on paying up some
sub fees just because you do like to changed up your gambling or betting results or career.

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Quote from: Nheer on August 21, 2023, 07:11:38 AM

I have been into sports betting for a while now and i am not really proud of my earliest experience in gambling, i feel like i am the most unlucky person in the world i lost a lot of games and also i lost a lot of money. I had knowledge about football and basketball games and they were my most picked games and even so I kept losing all my bets and even when i try to play safe i still end up losing and whenever i ask my friends for games we still end up losing the bet then i got tired and in the end i gave up and tried to quit gambling and I left it for some months. During this period my friends made a lot of money gambling and i was envious of them but it didn’t made me change my mind to start gambling over again.

Some months later i came across a telegram channel and i joined, it was a gambling channel that posted free sports bets for its users and there is also a VIP section where users subscribe for some sure games. I am well aware of all these techniques used by scammers so I decided to observe the channel and follow up games posted and I discovered he won most of the games and had about 80% victory rate. Then after some time I decided to try my luck again so I played one of his games and i won i was so happy and it was as though the curse placed on me has been lifted and I tried some more games and i won again and again and since the beginning of the new season i only lost twice and i am now proud of my gambling achievements.

According to the channel free games are limited and we can only enjoy for a month and now the month is almost over and only VIPs will be entitled to games when the month elapses. I have been having doubts whether to join the VIP zone because I don’t want to be scammed that’s why i want to know your opinions.

What do you all think i should do?

Deep down you know this is a scam, however because of how you feel when you win you are willing to forget about it and take the risk, when you say that this person has predicted most of the games right I believe you, however this is not sustainable, even the best sport bettors around the world cannot maintain that kind of winning rate, so the person behind that channel is just getting lucky and for sure they are going to use that in order to try to extract as much money as possible from the people that have been watching their channel.

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If the money that has been charged for the VIP zone section can be affordable for you, you can give it trier by subscribing to it. But if you can't easily afford the money that is being asked for, you should stay away from the telegram channel.

I know gambling channels like this exist on Telegram channel and also on Facebook. What I do know is that they do pay to join the groups for sure games and those that I have heard that have subscribed to them, I haven't heard them complain of being scammed. What I see them do is resell the betting games they got from the gambling channels, whether telegram or Facebook to their friends to indirectly make money out of their betting games given to them.

Am not trying to tell you to try your luck or convince you with what others do. I don't want you to subscribe because of that reason. You know why? You might be unlucky to end up subscribing to a scam telegram channel. Which will not be a good experience for you.

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If the guy is actually so much profitable, why didn't you share his telegram handle or the channel URL here?
None of my business actually. Anyways, I would say you can go ahead and purchase the VIP if it doesn't cost more than 10% of your total bankroll, else don't go for it because you will try to recover your costs by betting big and may lose big if the VIP group bets don't prove to their worth.

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