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I have been into sports betting for a while now and i am not really proud of my earliest experience in gambling, i feel like i am the most unlucky person in the world i lost a lot of games and also i lost a lot of money. I had knowledge about football and basketball games and they were my most picked games and even so I kept losing all my bets and even when i try to play safe i still end up losing and whenever i ask my friends for games we still end up losing the bet then i got tired and in the end i gave up and tried to quit gambling and I left it for some months. During this period my friends made a lot of money gambling and i was envious of them but it didn’t made me change my mind to start gambling over again.

Some months later i came across a telegram channel and i joined, it was a gambling channel that posted free sports bets for its users and there is also a VIP section where users subscribe for some sure games. I am well aware of all these techniques used by scammers so I decided to observe the channel and follow up games posted and I discovered he won most of the games and had about 80% victory rate. Then after some time I decided to try my luck again so I played one of his games and i won i was so happy and it was as though the curse placed on me has been lifted and I tried some more games and i won again and again and since the beginning of the new season i only lost twice and i am now proud of my gambling achievements.

According to the channel free games are limited and we can only enjoy for a month and now the month is almost over and only VIPs will be entitled to games when the month elapses. I have been having doubts whether to join the VIP zone because I don’t want to be scammed that’s why i want to know your opinions.

 What do you all think i should do?
Since this is a gambling site, you have to make your own decisions here. At this moment the game can be predicted very well because by looking at the current sports it can be understood which team will win and which team will lose. Since you have won most of your bets with signals from here, you can try it for one month by joining VIP signal channel here. Because hearing from your mouth and understanding in your language the signals they generate has opened your destiny.  Since here you are very satisfied with their signal you can enter here. But I am not asking you to stay on VIP signal for month after month fee. But I think no one can give a better signal than learn to make sports signals yourself.
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Here the decision is with OP. He needs to take it rather than getting other people's opinions. He has won through the free signals, as the time ends he's supposed to go with VIP subscription. If he hadn't taken subscription and lost the next bet, his mind will think he had lost just because he hadn't got the right signal from the channel. Op's mind had got prepared in such a way.
All decisions are in OP hands but he is here to ask for advice and consideration from all the members here who are gamblers and I think what OP is doing is the right action because when subscribing to VIP he has to spend money every month and of course he doesn't want to be cheated by betting channel on telegram group.
Some channels may be able to provide good betting predictions and have big chance of winning but finding channels like this will be very difficult plus there are quite lot of scam betting channels that only carry out fraudulent actions against subscribed gamblers.
OP is ok but telegram channels are mostly scams now its hard to get correct information. This is why one's own intelligence is most effective the best way to avoid cheating is to make a plan so you can be a little more responsible and maintain that excitement. The important thing here is that you try and stick to that plan as much as possible. These plans don't have to be complicated and illogical they can just be a rough idea of how much you want to spend on betting.

As for me if the price of VIP subscription isn't something to really cry about, I will be fine joining to review what is really in it. If it's just $25, it would be a good adventure somehow.
I missed OP's response about whether he mentioned the fee though.

Not in my lifetime I would pay to join if it is more than $25. I am a fan of a particular sport, but I will sure try if it's an 80% winning rate like OP said.

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Here the decision is with OP. He needs to take it rather than getting other people's opinions. He has won through the free signals, as the time ends he's supposed to go with VIP subscription. If he hadn't taken subscription and lost the next bet, his mind will think he had lost just because he hadn't got the right signal from the channel. Op's mind had got prepared in such a way.
All decisions are in OP hands but he is here to ask for advice and consideration from all the members here who are gamblers and I think what OP is doing is the right action because when subscribing to VIP he has to spend money every month and of course he doesn't want to be cheated by betting channel on telegram group.
Some channels may be able to provide good betting predictions and have big chance of winning but finding channels like this will be very difficult plus there are quite lot of scam betting channels that only carry out fraudulent actions against subscribed gamblers.
OP is ok but telegram channels are mostly scams now its hard to get correct information. This is why one's own intelligence is most effective the best way to avoid cheating is to make a plan so you can be a little more responsible and maintain that excitement. The important thing here is that you try and stick to that plan as much as possible. These plans don't have to be complicated and illogical they can just be a rough idea of how much you want to spend on betting.
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Unfortunately, gamblers nowadays find it easier to become addicts because they never want to know about the risks of gambling. That's why I always remind beginners that gambling is not just for making money and a quick way to get rich, but a place where you play with the risk of losing money, but mostly they ignore it.

Also gamblers nowadays are more exposed to gambling than it was in the past because gambling has become very easy to access that you can gamble online with your phones. This is why we're having more addicts now as there's no restrictions to how they gamble. It depends on the individuals to discipline ourselves and protect ourselves against addiction by restricting how we gamble, not chasing losses by revenge gambling as most individual are doing.

OP I haven't used any VIP channel that ask to pay to join but since you said they has a 80 percent winning rate, I would give it a try because we have some individuals that  are good at predicting games because of their experience or inside information. If the fee is not very high, I'll pay and use their predictions but I know I can lose too.
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Be cautious. Recognize that gambling has a significant risk of losing money in addition to the fleeting satisfaction that comes with winning. Every time. Always ask yourself if the rewards truly outweigh the risks and investments.
Not many gamblers want to understand the risks in gambling, if only they managed to understand the losses and knew the risks well, there would certainly not be many who would be addicted to gambling, because most gambling addicts start from those who don't understand the risks so they don't like losing and losing money so they continue to gamble to get back the money they have lost in gambling.

Unfortunately, gamblers nowadays find it easier to become addicts because they never want to know about the risks of gambling. That's why I always remind beginners that gambling is not just for making money and a quick way to get rich, but a place where you play with the risk of losing money, but mostly they ignore it.
If they became aware of online casinos due to the advertisements on social media, it's understandable that they will also target to win huge amount since in the ads that's what they're flexing. To those who don't have idea, it is really attractive, thinking that's how easy to win and hit a jackpot.

Keep in mind, if you kept losing it's better to quit. Gambling is intended to give you satisfaction not to make you rich. Thus, even there's a group out there who can help you to win the bet if you subscribe to their VIP membership, think first if it's worth it or if it's really necessary. Well, much better to gamble using your knowledge about the game since you're betting on sports. Try to improve what you know.
If you keep losing, it's better to stop. That is good advice for gamblers who experience frequent losses. But not many can do it because most gamblers will still gamble again because they want to keep having fun. And if @OP is willing to sacrifice some money to see what his VIP channel is like, he can join his VIP channel and get more and more accurate predictions. But if not, he shouldn't regret it because it was his own decision and there was no pressure to join his VIP channel. But if @OP realized he might be getting scammed, he wouldn't have to sacrifice his money to join her VIP channel.
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Be cautious. Recognize that gambling has a significant risk of losing money in addition to the fleeting satisfaction that comes with winning. Every time. Always ask yourself if the rewards truly outweigh the risks and investments.
Not many gamblers want to understand the risks in gambling, if only they managed to understand the losses and knew the risks well, there would certainly not be many who would be addicted to gambling, because most gambling addicts start from those who don't understand the risks so they don't like losing and losing money so they continue to gamble to get back the money they have lost in gambling.

Unfortunately, gamblers nowadays find it easier to become addicts because they never want to know about the risks of gambling. That's why I always remind beginners that gambling is not just for making money and a quick way to get rich, but a place where you play with the risk of losing money, but mostly they ignore it.
If they became aware of online casinos due to the advertisements on social media, it's understandable that they will also target to win huge amount since in the ads that's what they're flexing. To those who don't have idea, it is really attractive, thinking that's how easy to win and hit a jackpot.

Keep in mind, if you kept losing it's better to quit. Gambling is intended to give you satisfaction not to make you rich. Thus, even there's a group out there who can help you to win the bet if you subscribe to their VIP membership, think first if it's worth it or if it's really necessary. Well, much better to gamble using your knowledge about the game since you're betting on sports. Try to improve what you know.
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According to the channel free games are limited and we can only enjoy for a month and now the month is almost over and only VIPs will be entitled to games when the month elapses. I have been having doubts whether to join the VIP zone because I don’t want to be scammed that’s why i want to know your opinions.

 What do you all think i should do?

That is hard a question to answer and you need to make up your own mind how much you want to be involved with sports bets going forward. Relying on other forum users to give advice here is a good idea, but we can't decide for you how much involved you want to be with gambling. Taking advantage of free betting tips is fine, the question is now if your monthly profit pays off to become a VIP member. It doesn't make sense for you to pay a monthly fee when you are not going to gamble regularly. The service needs to add value for you and cost you additional money. How about you first try to place some bets on your own again? If there is one special sport you like a lot and one particular league you follow regularly, then I would try to only bet on those matches where you have more knowledge and an advantage.
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Be cautious. Recognize that gambling has a significant risk of losing money in addition to the fleeting satisfaction that comes with winning. Every time. Always ask yourself if the rewards truly outweigh the risks and investments.
Not many gamblers want to understand the risks in gambling, if only they managed to understand the losses and knew the risks well, there would certainly not be many who would be addicted to gambling, because most gambling addicts start from those who don't understand the risks so they don't like losing and losing money so they continue to gamble to get back the money they have lost in gambling.

Unfortunately, gamblers nowadays find it easier to become addicts because they never want to know about the risks of gambling. That's why I always remind beginners that gambling is not just for making money and a quick way to get rich, but a place where you play with the risk of losing money, but mostly they ignore it.
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Here the decision is with OP. He needs to take it rather than getting other people's opinions. He has won through the free signals, as the time ends he's supposed to go with VIP subscription. If he hadn't taken subscription and lost the next bet, his mind will think he had lost just because he hadn't got the right signal from the channel. Op's mind had got prepared in such a way.

My suggestion is to make an analysis on the bets placed before joining the channel as well as after joining the channel for free signals. This will help you understand better about the mistakes you've made in selecting the odds. Correcting it can be a good choice.

OP in his write up about his personal gambling experience, he mentioned not being vast about gambling and have lost a lot. I think he may not have the skill of analyzing sport. That's why he chose to operate using those channels. I've thought in and out on gambling channel, yet I don't understand how they get their odds. Gamblers lose despite using their predictions and still go back to patronize them. It always seem to them that not being a VIP member means losing out on premium predictions. I'm not belittling the facilities and services of gambling channels, frequent wins is not guaranteed. When It's completely wrong is losing out, frequently, with their predictions. A good number of them seem to give close to correct predictions and when the player doesn't win, they'll try to blame it on something else. No present or available alternative for such players. So, OP could be dependent on these people to at least win games. I've never seen a gambler as fun as OP, he never won a single game. Still he gambled, at least playing is fun. He's got to keep rolling. If the channel he joined made him smile with few wins, It'll be difficult to pull him out even with few more losses. Even as a VIP member. His money has been staked, with them, until whenever he's tired of renewing his subscription. He'll manage his VIP membership, the way he's served. And during those periods, his losses may not hurt him, like it would, if he didn't join the VIP membership. The admins of such channels always claim that VIP members win. With their fabricated screenshots sent to free signal members. To lure them into buying premium or VIP membership. OP need to find a suitable channel for himself. Or invest some time to analyze games himself like you suggested. It won't be easy, he'll have to execute fresh learning and build network with top gambling channels and analyzers. I think it's what those gambling channels do to get predictions. They may be affiliated with top game analyzers for their predictions and odd.
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Here the decision is with OP. He needs to take it rather than getting other people's opinions. He has won through the free signals, as the time ends he's supposed to go with VIP subscription. If he hadn't taken subscription and lost the next bet, his mind will think he had lost just because he hadn't got the right signal from the channel. Op's mind had got prepared in such a way.
All decisions are in OP hands but he is here to ask for advice and consideration from all the members here who are gamblers and I think what OP is doing is the right action because when subscribing to VIP he has to spend money every month and of course he doesn't want to be cheated by betting channel on telegram group.
Some channels may be able to provide good betting predictions and have big chance of winning but finding channels like this will be very difficult plus there are quite lot of scam betting channels that only carry out fraudulent actions against subscribed gamblers.

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My suggestion is to make an analysis on the bets placed before joining the channel as well as after joining the channel for free signals. This will help you understand better about the mistakes you've made in selecting the odds. Correcting it can be a good choice.
We must be smart in joining such channels and as much as possible not be completely motivated or rely too much on betting channels if we want to bet on several betting options.
And always evaluate or compare the predictions we make with the predictions on that channel so we can determine which one is the best to bet on.
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Here the decision is with OP. He needs to take it rather than getting other people's opinions. He has won through the free signals, as the time ends he's supposed to go with VIP subscription. If he hadn't taken subscription and lost the next bet, his mind will think he had lost just because he hadn't got the right signal from the channel. Op's mind had got prepared in such a way.

My suggestion is to make an analysis on the bets placed before joining the channel as well as after joining the channel for free signals. This will help you understand better about the mistakes you've made in selecting the odds. Correcting it can be a good choice.
The OP is setting themselves up to get scammed, talented scammers know that the best way to convince someone of something is not by forcefully arguing with them, but by letting those people to convince themselves, the OP which according to their own words is not a good sport bettor is finding almost impossible to resist the offer right in front of them as they have finally earned some money with sport bets, and I think that regardless of our advice at some point they will go for the VIP option, and pay those scammers some money over a service that is worth nothing.
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According to the channel free games are limited and we can only enjoy for a month and now the month is almost over and only VIPs will be entitled to games when the month elapses. I have been having doubts whether to join the VIP zone because I don’t want to be scammed that’s why i want to know your opinions.

 What do you all think i should do?

There are two options for you here. Either you can continue for free in the channel, although they will post limited games there. If that was a trial period, and you cannot remain in the group for free, then you can choose to join the paid group depending upon the fee of the group. You have already won a few bets by getting signals from that group, so why not buy the membership using the profit money?

Although I do not like these VIP paid memberships betting signals groups, but since you had a good experience and also your own analysis mostly led to the lost in bet, so why not use the service and gain some money?
The vastness of the 'paid' yet apparently successful, and the seductive charm of the limited but "free" options. I assure you that your situation is not out of the ordinary in the wide virtual world of online betting. Consider this, though: isnt it odd that you're thinking of reinvesting into a system that only provides you with signals rather than assurances, even with your winnings?

I understand; the winnings and proof of your prior wagers appear to support the skill of the paid group, dont they? But, hear me out, what if those times you won were just lucky breaks? Therefore, if you're using your gains to go deeper, could this be positioning you for possible trouble?

Be cautious. Recognize that gambling has a significant risk of losing money in addition to the fleeting satisfaction that comes with winning. Every time. Always ask yourself if the rewards truly outweigh the risks and investments.
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Here the decision is with OP. He needs to take it rather than getting other people's opinions. He has won through the free signals, as the time ends he's supposed to go with VIP subscription. If he hadn't taken subscription and lost the next bet, his mind will think he had lost just because he hadn't got the right signal from the channel. Op's mind had got prepared in such a way.

My suggestion is to make an analysis on the bets placed before joining the channel as well as after joining the channel for free signals. This will help you understand better about the mistakes you've made in selecting the odds. Correcting it can be a good choice.
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According to the channel free games are limited and we can only enjoy for a month and now the month is almost over and only VIPs will be entitled to games when the month elapses. I have been having doubts whether to join the VIP zone because I don’t want to be scammed that’s why i want to know your opinions.

 What do you all think i should do?

There are two options for you here. Either you can continue for free in the channel, although they will post limited games there. If that was a trial period, and you cannot remain in the group for free, then you can choose to join the paid group depending upon the fee of the group. You have already won a few bets by getting signals from that group, so why not buy the membership using the profit money?

Although I do not like these VIP paid memberships betting signals groups, but since you had a good experience and also your own analysis mostly led to the lost in bet, so why not use the service and gain some money?
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You've just won from their free signals now you'll want to join their VIP? This is like advertisements on TV they will show you the most attractive and appealing product so that you will buy. This is the same case with the free signal that makes you win, it is just bait so that you will avail to their VIP and then once you are in that is when they will leave you. I understand that you keep losing in your previous bet but I would say that there is something wrong or lacking when you select a team. You still need to research more and see if there are other instances where the team you choose has the possibility of losing.
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Hey OP, chill out a bit. Don't put all your faith in what you see or what these folks are pitching to you. You've gotta think long-term, but keep it real, ya know? Since we're talking sports betting here, I assume you're already gearing up for a journey that's gonna take a while.

Now, let's not get started on that 80% winning rate stuff, 'cause that just can't hold up forever. The law of averages is gonna kick in sooner or later. And from what I know, there's no sports bettor out there with an 80% win rate. That's off the charts, nearly impossible. Even 70% is pushing it, honestly. It's more like aiming for that sweet 65%, which can still bring in some good cash.

When it comes to your bankroll, start with a solid one and get the hang of bankroll management. That's a game-changer on this journey. All you gotta do is stay consistent with your picks, and remember that 65% win rate. That's the secret sauce.

To get the lowdown on bankroll management, just do a little digging. YouTube's got tons of videos on the topic.
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I'm really glad to see a fellow forum member sharing their sports betting journey. We all start out as newbies, and man, I get what you've been through. Let me drop a suggestion for you: steer clear of those VIP memberships or any channels that promise you guaranteed wins. Focus on your own game, work on improving your skills because that's the real deal for moving forward.

Think about it this way, if you subscribe to a Telegram channel with VIP membership, you're basically putting your faith in them, and you're shelling out cash, possibly no matter the outcome. Not a smart path to take, if you ask me. Trust no one but yourself in this game.
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you cant just outrightly trust them. from what i know , these free channels are the best of what they can offer because its targeted towards luring people to join their VIP so they want them to think that the VIP is same and even more better than that. but the truth is that they are not winning most times like they do present it. its always better to be source of your picks. you only need to research more and sharpen your skills.


Don’t pay any money to their VIP channels which guide you in the gambling.Actually it’s wrong to use the signals in the trading,because the self analysis in the trading will help you to get good win.So the same was applicable to the gambling.The gambling based on the luck,So how the VIP channel guidelines help you get the luck in the game.So you should use your own game in the gambling.The guidelines from the VIP channels is just to get some money from you.
Many of the VIP gambling channels are no better than the gambler who's hanging his hope on them for a greater chance of getting winnings games through them. These channels are just doing packaging business and not that they're sure of the predictions they offer, it's still same analysis a gambler could spend his own time critically analyzing about a particular sport he wishes to bet on, that's the same analysis these VIP channels undertake too to arrive in their predictions they sell out. Just that it's as if a few piles of gamblers have turned lazy in doing this paperwork themselves and have decided to push it to these channels in exchange for payment of service.
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you cant just outrightly trust them. from what i know , these free channels are the best of what they can offer because its targeted towards luring people to join their VIP so they want them to think that the VIP is same and even more better than that. but the truth is that they are not winning most times like they do present it. its always better to be source of your picks. you only need to research more and sharpen your skills.


Don’t pay any money to their VIP channels which guide you in the gambling.Actually it’s wrong to use the signals in the trading,because the self analysis in the trading will help you to get good win.So the same was applicable to the gambling.The gambling based on the luck,So how the VIP channel guidelines help you get the luck in the game.So you should use your own game in the gambling.The guidelines from the VIP channels is just to get some money from you.
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you cant just outrightly trust them. from what i know , these free channels are the best of what they can offer because its targeted towards luring people to join their VIP so they want them to think that the VIP is same and even more better than that. but the truth is that they are not winning most times like they do present it. its always better to be source of your picks. you only need to research more and sharpen your skills.
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