Topic: I can’t cope on my own. What do you think I should do? - page 7. (Read 1728 times)

What do you think?
You have already mentioned it; you're afraid to get scammed and you're also losing in sportsbetting with your own analysis. No one wins without losing. If you really think you are having a bad experience in sportsbetting then why don't you stop then? You're still here 'coz you want something then you should be pushing yourelf to achieve that. You have a choice whether to try risking a few amount for that VIP and see it for yourself or improve your analysis and bet on your own or to simply quit on sports betting and move to other gambling game. Sometimes the answer to our question is obvious and we just tend to not mind it 'coz we are looking for an answer from other people. Do what you think would work on your end and don't rely with other's opinion.

I say this is a common scam bait made by people to lure in unsuspecting people who are down on their lucks. I'm not saying that they don't have a strategy or a system to get that high of a win rate, but what they do after receiving your pay is either just ghost you for your money outright, or include you back into the channel and give you calls that aren't going to work so you would pay them for a higher subscription. I'm also not saying that there aren't legitimate ones out there but in my opinion, you shouldn't be paying for stuff you can just get for free.

I say you observe the channel and ask for testimonials among random members, ask them if it was legitimate or whatnot, research as well if they have a reputation among the sportsbet industry.

Anyone can claim that they are a master of a certain game, it's easy to create a Telegram channel to attract people but we shouldn't fall for their trap as most of them are just aiming to make money from their victims. We should be skeptical not to easily fall for them.
Deep research is always important and keep in mind that gambling is a game of luck where your friends could be luckier than you or vice versa. You have to cope up with the risks and never expect that you can have the same path as others. If you are continuously losing, you better check your weaknesses and mistakes so you'll know how to make them right and more effective next time.

That's right, to be honest what you're saying makes a lot of sense and I understand that I'm kinda questioning this too. They are content creators and influencers who always suggest or recommend joining certain groups that they consider VIP and we can get a lot of things from there. That's right, there is no free lunch, after all, everyone wants money, that doesn't mean they are good, but they take advantage of opportunities in various places that they can reach and can get lots of members to then make a profit. inside it. If we really think logically then I think we will know the real truth in this context. The point is don't believe too much in anything that comes to you, look for the truth first and if it makes sense then go ahead.

Yes.. I think this is also closer to the element of fraud. I don't think they are experts, it's just that they understand gambling.
But I also believe that there are people who are experts at gambling. In my opinion, when someone is an expert at gambling, it is not easy for him to share the knowledge he has, even with people he knows and they will not be easily tempted by some money for the knowledge he has worked hard for. Someone who is already an expert in gambling will not easily come to the surface and will only pass on their knowledge to people they trust so that there will be successors. Because trust is more expensive and cannot be bought with money.

Not every service is a rip-off! I've gambled - HEALTHILY - on some of the most prestigious platforms and came out on top. So don't blanket your singular experiences over every channel.

Now, you’re right, caution is good. But completely trashing VIP programs? It's like you're turning down a gold mine just because someone else found coal. My advice? Maybe you and your friend should get better at spotting the good from the bad. And as for these "sure games", of course they predict! It's called STRATEGY. You need to understand that every system has its hits and misses. Don't dismiss a platform just because you got the short end of the stick once. It’s a game of persistence and knowledge

But we are talking about sports bets, not any technique with a consensus. Even if you know a lot about a certain sport, it is almost impossible to consistently win: the knowledge leads to a false sense of control, as the variables for a certain result are many more than we could calculate on beforehand.

OP himself said that he knows a lot about football and basket, and kept loosing. About copying, I think that you've simply had luck, but nothing guarantees further winnings if you pay for VIP subscription. In fact, you're thinking about joining because you had good luck, but think that those in similar groups who weren't so lucky won't be thinking on joining them. That's the way they work: statistically a small percentage of followers will consistently win, until their luck changes; if they decide to pay before that change, it is profit for the group.

Correct, they're actually make money through selling memberships. Motivators are make money by views on Youtube, influencers are making money through advertisement or affiliate marketing. There's no free lunch, they're just find a way to make money and we should use our logic about it.

It's similar like an old friend contact and act very nice to you, that's not because he want to built a good relationship with you, but he want to ask for money.

I do not dispute that you need to learn from experienced ones, and this is probably the best way, because, for example, artists learn from Vedic artists by copying their paintings, and beginners in gambling and trading copy the experienced player they like.
This is correct, but only if the beginner perfectly understands the cause-and-effect relationship of actions, and does not blindly copy actions.
You must always be conscious in making your decisions.But I am sure that most people would rather rely on others, then blame them for such actions.

Wrong to rely your decision base to the people around you since they might not give you good inputs since they are also speculating on the results. That's why we need to avoid this mistake and always do our own research so that we can create our own decisions base to the information we gather and avoid mistakes that is avoidable. Gambling needs personal attention so we shouldn't rely all to other people since it can ruin us totally.

If we can't do right decision since we are new then better observe the activity of the old gamblers since for sure we can learn a lot from them.

I always consider that if someone is claiming he is master at gambling and winning all the time why would he need to sell vip group memberships? Its obvious that even if guy is experienced, he is trying to generate money by selling memberships. Its scam in my opinion but some people think its "you get what you want" type of business. He is literally selling you strategies sugar coated by group memberships.

Independence is the only right way that allows you to analyze your results without interference from the outside. Whether it's the results of gambling or success in life. It is not necessary to make decisions based on the opinions of other people, because then you do not understand all the justifications for such decisions. It's better to stuff your bumps, but in the end make the right conclusions. In terms of gambling, this means to test your strategy, or your vision of the path to victory. Summing up the above, I will say that I do not ask others myself, but I also do not like to share my opinion. Because it is based on my conclusions that I made through financial mistakes. And they are the conclusion of my actions.

I think this decision should be based on your own research, and if I am clear, I thought you said you had tried some of their games and won. I may say you have done some research, but I wouldn't advise you to subscribe to their VIP program due to the fact that scammers are rampant on different social media platforms now and using different tactics to scam people, and many of them are very smart, so I will ask you to be conscious about giving money to people that you don't know physically.
 
I have one friend who has experienced this type of sure game in the Telegram channel before, and it later led to scamming after he subscribed to VIP Finish. It is not that the Telegram channel was not providing games for them, but the games they were giving my friends were not sure games because he loses often, like if they gave him like seven bets, he will just win like one or two times and till going to be small odds like 3 or 4 odds, and the tactics those people usually use are that they always give different games to different people so that all the subscribers would lose at once, so lucky people win sometime. So I see many of these people on these Telegram channels who always claim they have sure games as liars because they also do predict like us.

First of all, I don't know in detail how your betting pattern is. referring to what you said, we have the same hobby which is betting on sports. the difference is you bet on football and basketball, while I only bet on football. something makes me want to ask you, do you bet on single bets, or multibet and so on. then, do you bet on all the matches you want, or how do you usually bet. because, referring to what you say, you always lose in the betting sessions that you do. I have two scenarios, maybe you bet on multibet. or, you do betting sessions continuously until you get the win you want.

By the way, my version of gambling is not betting on multiple matches. I will only choose from the many matches that will be held. for example every week the European league is usually held, and I will select from several teams that will compete. usually, I will only do 3 single bets out of many matches. it could even be less than that, or a little more. the second option, I can bet on a parlay, ideally 3 or 5 teams I choose. with a pattern like this, I won't spend much time. if I'm lucky, I'll win the singles bet. conversely, if my prediction misses, it means I lost the bet.

Well, referring to another point. actually I have never been involved in joining the channel as you tell in this thread. because, I only rely on the insights that I have and don't forget to involve knowledge, research and analysis. and the outcome, depending, because in sports betting nothing is certain. So, I'll just suggest. if you want to enjoy the betting session that you are doing, you should involve knowledge and insight related to sports. way, you can learn more about the sport itself. whatever it is, at least you have a little picture and analysis of how a match will take place. Finally, you can bet after going through a series of research and analysis that you did.

How much is the V.I.P package? How many football game odds have been posted ever since you joined the free telegram channel? and How much profit have you been able to make personally? Because I think those are the 3 main important questions you need to answer yourself, that will determine if you are to join the V.I.P package or not, because one thing I know is that there is nothing such as fixed matches, as that very statement have been used to scam millions of people, and yet people keep falling for it, and the reason why getting the basic knowledge of a stuff before venturing into it is very important.

This is exactly the same thing or idea I pointed out to the Op, if he had won enough money to buy him a spot in the VIP channel, I don't see any reason why not to go for it as long as he has verified the channel to be trusted not to turn around and abscond with subscribers money, he has played the free bets and won most of it as he testified, and since the free bet only last for one month, if I was him, I will buy the VIP subscription, but like I said before, this would be after I've been able to really verify that the channel is legit..

I've seen some situations where scammers provide such service as sports prediction for a while just to lure unsuspecting victims, immediately the victim pays for VIP subscription, the victim will be kicked out and blocked from accessing the channel, leaving the victim with even no means of contacting some other people on the channel to avoid losing their money.

Yes, it's up to him whether he wants to join or not because only he that knows better the situation and conditions of the group. But we suggest not joining because by joining the VIP group, we have to pay the subscription fee and that also doesn't guarantee he can get good signals like before. After all, if he didn't join and kept learning to analyze and seek more information, he could improve his analysis skills and no longer need such groups. And the money that he plans to join can be used to place bets so maybe he can win from the results of his analysis. And with his years of experience, he should at least have the ability to analyze.

Before, I also experienced joining channel about sportsbetting and yes it somehow helped me to win by following their predictions. But not to the extent of joining some sort of VIP access. To be honest, I used to rely on it since I got good results but rather than always relying on them, I also tried studying more about the sports and the teams (especially those sports that I tried betting even when I don't even know a lot of things about that sports). After gaining some knowledge and experience, I can manage making my own call and still win.

You don't have to join that VIP so you can win on sportsbetting. Sometimes there are just bad days in gambling. And if you really know and love the sports, for sure you can make your own call without relying on those channels.

History has proven that people, no matter how intelligent they believe themselves to be, continue to fall into the same traps. It resembles a continuous cycle of foolishness. You struggled with your bets, but the telegram route was helpful. Who is to tell, though, that those in command of the channel aren't abusing the setup? What if they have broader plans and you are merely a pawn in their elaborate scheme?

You witnessed their alleged "80% victory rate." But how many of those were true? How can you be certain that this tale isn't a fabrication? This terrible fact is: Why would they tell everyone else if they always know how to win? Why not keep their wealth and secrets to themselves? Do you believe that they are assisting because they want to?

Choose wisely, my friend. Dont let the mirage of a few wins distract you from the potential big hole in the VIP area.

Exactly! only do things that are beneficial to you. You might lose some friends along the way but I'm pretty sure you'll find new ones. Every decisions you make, you're the only person accountable for the outcome. Because if you rely too much on other people, then your system will have some deviations and differences that you cannot control. You might also end up blaming other people.