I didn't pay capital gains tax on bitcoin sales to IRS today - page 12.

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Quote from: TheButterZone on April 17, 2014, 02:32:13 AM

You should clean that bullshit off your mirror, then.

Anarchists want to SPEND 100% of their OWN money. Not have it taken at the barrel of a gun, then spent by sociopath pieces of shit who feign having IQs below that required to complete toilet hygiene tasks without daily assistance/reeducation.

Did you earn the money without using any infrastructure the government provides? If not, it is not 100% your money.
That's the same as a manager, who just stops paying his employees because he thinks, he did all the work and should get 100% of the gains.
You "anarchists" are not better, than this asshole capitalists.

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You should clean that bullshit off your mirror, then.

Anarchists want to SPEND 100% of their OWN money. Not have it taken at the barrel of a gun, then spent by evil, sociopath pieces of shit who feign having IQs below that required to complete toilet hygiene tasks without daily assistance/reeducation.

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I am really fascinated by this Thread. There is so much BS going on here.
In the end, all you "anarchist" just want to keep your money.
Do you "anarchists" know, what Common Goods are? I don't think, I saw that term in this thread.
Let me ask one question:
Besides not paying taxes(because government is bad), what do you do to change the system?
It should be clear for everybody with some brain, that just not paying taxes wouldn't change anything, shouldn't it?

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Time is on our side, yes it is!

Nor should you have. Why so they can use it to start more wars or claim it goes to schools and roads even though both are in the worst shape ever. Or maybe so they can use it to arm themselves against the citizens?

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Quote from: Sage on April 17, 2014, 12:19:15 AM

Quote from: silverfuture on April 17, 2014, 12:14:07 AM

Quote from: Sage on April 17, 2014, 12:03:10 AM

Quote from: Elwar on April 17, 2014, 12:00:28 AM

Well, it happened OP.

I took my garbage out to the road yesterday and nobody came to pick it up.

I called the government today and asked why they did not pick up my garbage. They told me "some guy didn't pay taxes on his bitcoins so we don't have enough money to pick up garbage"

Thanks a lot.

I wish government wasn't the only entity that could provide garbage service. Yet, according to some people, it apparently is.

Elwar are you ignorant, or just plain brainwashed beyond hope? Or perhaps too apathetic to do some research.

Are you so ignorant as to really believe the income tax pays for garbage collection? Huh

Nope, city taxes do that...

(eye roll) Another brainwashed lemming.

Have you considered Elwar may be using the literary technique sometimes referred to as sarcasm?

I wish that were true... but taken in context with Elwar's other posts it's painfully apparent Elwar is hopelessly brainwashed or just plain ignorant... and as misery loves company uses this forum to further that brainwashing/ignorance on others.

What is this sarcasm thing you speak of? Will the government provide this for me with the help of taxes?

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Quote from: silverfuture on April 17, 2014, 12:14:07 AM

Quote from: Sage on April 17, 2014, 12:03:10 AM

Quote from: Elwar on April 17, 2014, 12:00:28 AM

Well, it happened OP.

I took my garbage out to the road yesterday and nobody came to pick it up.

I called the government today and asked why they did not pick up my garbage. They told me "some guy didn't pay taxes on his bitcoins so we don't have enough money to pick up garbage"

Thanks a lot.

I wish government wasn't the only entity that could provide garbage service. Yet, according to some people, it apparently is.

Elwar are you ignorant, or just plain brainwashed beyond hope? Or perhaps too apathetic to do some research.

Are you so ignorant as to really believe the income tax pays for garbage collection? Huh

Nope, city taxes do that...

(eye roll) Another brainwashed lemming.

Have you considered Elwar may be using the literary technique sometimes referred to as sarcasm?

I wish that were true... but taken in context with Elwar's other posts it's painfully apparent Elwar is hopelessly brainwashed or just plain ignorant... and as misery loves company uses this forum to further that brainwashing/ignorance on others.

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Quote from: Sage on April 17, 2014, 12:03:10 AM

Quote from: Elwar on April 17, 2014, 12:00:28 AM

Well, it happened OP.

I took my garbage out to the road yesterday and nobody came to pick it up.

I called the government today and asked why they did not pick up my garbage. They told me "some guy didn't pay taxes on his bitcoins so we don't have enough money to pick up garbage"

Thanks a lot.

I wish government wasn't the only entity that could provide garbage service. Yet, according to some people, it apparently is.

Elwar are you ignorant, or just plain brainwashed beyond hope? Or perhaps too apathetic to do some research.

Are you so ignorant as to really believe the income tax pays for garbage collection? Huh

Nope, city taxes do that...

(eye roll) Another brainwashed lemming.

Have you considered Elwar may be using the literary technique sometimes referred to as sarcasm?

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Quote from: Elwar on April 17, 2014, 12:00:28 AM

Well, it happened OP.

I took my garbage out to the road yesterday and nobody came to pick it up.

I called the government today and asked why they did not pick up my garbage. They told me "some guy didn't pay taxes on his bitcoins so we don't have enough money to pick up garbage"

Thanks a lot.

I wish government wasn't the only entity that could provide garbage service. Yet, according to some people, it apparently is.

Elwar are you ignorant, or just plain brainwashed beyond hope? Or perhaps too apathetic to do some research.

Are you so ignorant as to really believe the income tax pays for garbage collection? Huh

Nope, city taxes do that...

(eye roll) Another brainwashed lemming.

Elwar

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Well, it happened OP.

I took my garbage out to the road yesterday and nobody came to pick it up.

I called the government today and asked why they did not pick up my garbage. They told me "some guy didn't pay taxes on his bitcoins so we don't have enough money to pick up garbage"

Thanks a lot.

I wish government wasn't the only entity that could provide garbage service. Yet, according to some people, it apparently is.

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Quote from: botolo86 on April 16, 2014, 11:13:06 PM

I think this nice and clear calculator may be appropriate for this discussion.

http://act.one.org/sign/fy15_budget/

If you don't want to click on the link, here is an example of someone who makes $60k gross per year of profits.

Of this amount, this guy has paid $11,125 in taxes and here is how these taxes are going to be used:

$2,614.38 for social security
$1,891.25 for national defense
$1,657.63 for unemployment
$1,579.75 for medicare
$1,368.38 for health
$934.16 for other expenses
$678.73 for interests on US debt
$111.25 on foreign assistance

I myself am happy to contribute to all these things. I would like to reduce national defense but I would not put a $0 there.

Another brainwashed apologist for the Federal Reserve scam...

Not one red cent of the income tax goes to those things other then interest on the debt... the fraudulent debt created by design to enslave you.

P.S. Don't forget to include in your list...

Baseless, unfounded wars of aggression
Government sponsored torture
Government kill lists
TSA
Ubiquitous government spying of every detail of your life
Unending terrorizing of sovereign countries through relentless drone attacks
The shredding of the Constitution

Hell, you can even be jailed now for collecting rainwater on your own land!

Wake the $%^^ up. Every dollar you send them is used only to further enslave you. And further a globalist, anti-human agenda.

If you support that, then by all means, send them your wealth.

But if you actually do have a moral conscience, and actually do want a future for your children with some modicum of freedom and prosperity, then use every tool at your disposal acting out non-violent civil disobedience.

Don't enable that monster any longer folks.

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I think this nice and clear calculator may be appropriate for this discussion.

http://act.one.org/sign/fy15_budget/

If you don't want to click on the link, here is an example of someone who makes $60k gross per year of profits.

Of this amount, this guy has paid $11,125 in taxes and here is how these taxes are going to be used:

$2,614.38 for social security
$1,891.25 for national defense
$1,657.63 for unemployment
$1,579.75 for medicare
$1,368.38 for health
$934.16 for other expenses
$678.73 for interests on US debt
$111.25 on foreign assistance

I myself am happy to contribute to all these things. I would like to reduce national defense but I would not put a $0 there.

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Quote from: moriartybitcoin on April 16, 2014, 03:15:12 PM

OP - I would invite you to write a crypto-anarchist/libertarian post on Bitcoin taxes for my magazine, http://BitForum.org

It seems you have some interesting insights and we would be honored to have you as a Guest Author.

Dr. Michael Moriarty

Thank God someone's saying what everyone is or should be thinking:

http://bitforum.org/with-tax-day-fast-approaching-in-the-united-states-the-subject-of-bitcoin-and-taxation-has-been-all-over-the-news-lately-over-the-past-several-years-bitcoin-miners-investors-and-startups-have-enj/

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/the-solution-to-the-irs-bitcoin-compliance-problem-562282

Keep the discussion going. Enough of the lemmings see others standing up they'll join in too.

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Time is on our side, yes it is!

You sir are a criminal and should be thrown into the deepest darkest dungeon and feed to the lions. You terrorist, how dare you not pay the man more of your hard earned money for no good reason.

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Quote from: dogechode on April 16, 2014, 01:06:44 PM

Quote from: Bit_Happy on April 16, 2014, 01:05:28 PM

Quote from: botolo86 on April 16, 2014, 10:28:25 AM

Guys, you should grow up. If you don't like this system, go live somewhere else.
...

Not everyone has the option to "go live somewhere else".
What are those people supposed to do if they don't like to pay for corrupt BS?

They're supposed to get educated about the issues at hand, vote, write to their congress members, etc etc.

Honestly one of the biggest issues is people don't care or don't really know about the issues that they claim to be pissed off about. I love when they do surveys and find that for example 30% of people support one side, 25% support the opposite, and the rest don't know don't care or don't have any better idea.

You forgot to factor in the people that realize both sides are corrupt. Vote, write to congress members, you can't be serious right?

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Time is on our side, yes it is!

That is a rather amusing rant. I didn't have a bank account for a little while so I guess I was categorized as some kind of useless degenerative monk who may or may not be dangerous to others lol. So glad I got that new account phew that was close.

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Quote from: hello_good_sir on April 15, 2014, 09:53:08 PM

Quote from: cryptoanarchist on April 15, 2014, 09:38:39 PM

A cryptoanarchist bitcoiner with a bank account?

Blasphemy!

The only place I keep fiat is in my wallet. Banks are for suckers.

You don't have a bank account. That means that you probably don't have a house, or a credit card, direct deposit, or children, or any of the other things that are part of normal life. You are basically a monk of a pseudo-religion. Your experience is so far from our own that any advice that you might have is likely to be useless or even dangerous to us.

Monks cannot provide a good example to the rest of us, because if we all lived like monks there would be no families and thus no future. All purely monastic societies die sooner or later.

This post made me laugh so hard I nearly shit myself.

This WAS meant as a joke right?

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OP - I would invite you to write a crypto-anarchist/libertarian post on Bitcoin taxes for my magazine, http://BitForum.org

It seems you have some interesting insights and we would be honored to have you as a Guest Author.

Dr. Michael Moriarty

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Good post.

I own the entire Moriarty Bitcoin Network of 50+ websites including BitPlastic.com, BitLaunder.com, etc ... we do transactions of over 100 bitcoins daily throughout the network.

Guess how much tax we paid?

0.00

The IRS is the biggest scam in history. The Federal Reserve can print all the money it needs. The only reason it taxes the population is to keep the middle class in check.

My network of sites reports transactions to no government whatsoever! And we do not maintain records on our customers nor verify identities. If you use CoinBase or CaVirtEx, the US and Canadian governments will know exactly how much money you spent on Bitcoins. And eventually you will get a knock on the door.

Stay safe.

Dr. Michael Moriarty

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Quote from: runam0k on April 16, 2014, 04:18:42 AM

Isn't spending bitcoins a tax event, meaning you must account for the fiat value of any gains regardless (i.e. fiat value of the goods or services you purchase minus fiat value of the bitcoins when you acquired them)? The tax ruling was not just about converting BTC to fiat.

They even consider trading bitcoins for bitcoins to be a taxable event.
It is absurd.
I commend the op and anybody with the balls to refuse their outrageous demands.

Taxing bitcoins is like taxing maplestory mesos or any in-game currency, it's silly.

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Quote from: Beliathon on April 16, 2014, 09:15:13 AM

Quote from: vipgelsi on April 15, 2014, 09:36:12 PM

what a fool leave sleeping dogs alone

The dogs are not asleep. The dogs of government are rabid, and they have been devouring innocent people for a hundred years. It's time to put them down.

Anyone who is worried about the tax implications of holding cryptocurrency, don't be. Cryptocurrency is the END of fiat, capiche?

There is no going back. Nation-state scrip is a dead thing walking. The IRS is a dead thing walking. The US dollar is most CERTAINLY a dead thing walking.

Even capitalism itself is rapidly becoming a dead thing walking.

Cryptocurrency won't be the end of fiat, it will be alongside fiat just that fiat usage will gradually be reduced. Just like the emergence of the internet and email, we now simply send emails rather than letters, but still for certain occasions we'd still lick up a stamp and stick it in a corner for good old-fashioned snail mail, for whatever reason.

Back to OP's subject, I suspect the government of the USA is still trying to figure out what to make of Bitcoin (or rather, how to best capitalise on it). Is it a commodity or a currency? Is it both or neither? But one thing governments around the world(the greedy ones at least) do know for bloody sure, is to tax first, everything else later.

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