Topic: I didn't pay capital gains tax on bitcoin sales to IRS today - page 11. (Read 24100 times)

You have to tell us something more to give you an answer. Tell us something about the way you get your income and the way you spend your money. For example, are you paid for your work in BTC? How do you convert BTC in USD for anything you need to pay that does not accept BTC? How do you pay rent, electricity, internet, etc?

There may be a loophole in your process.

For example, let's say you provide web design services. I hire you and I pay you with BTC. Your part of the transaction is transparent to IRS but I will deduct your payment to the IRS as my business' expenses. If I am audited, I will tell the IRS that I paid you in BTC and the IRS will ask you where those BTC are and it's your burden to give them this info.

Another example. You have a bunch of BTC but you have to pay your rent in USD. You need to convert those BTC in USD. Of course, if you use an exchange platform such as Coinbase, they will get you. Maybe you will get cash selling BTC to someone for USD. That someone may be another loophole for you. Also, you pay rent and your landlord puts that rent in his income. If he is audited, he will show IRS that he received cash from you and IRS will then ask you where you got that cash from.

In summary, as long as your whole life is not in BTC, you may get caught because of third parties you have interacted with.

I know, that my government takes it from the schools(and we also have increasing debts). I can't believe, that US-government doesn't do the same thing.

Seven pages in and no one has proven that I owe the IRS anything for capital gains.

That's because they have no idea what private keys I possess.

What more proof do you need that this ridiculous IRS ruling is completely without teeth??

Nope, They take it from new debt.
The combined amount of taxes is far less than the U.S. expenses.

Don't drop the soap 

Every penny from the property taxes goes to Schools? Every penny from the gas taxes goes to Roads? There is no other money source for Schools and no other source for Roads?
That is one of the most stupid things, I have ever heard. In Austria we have the saying: Geld hat kein Mascherl. Money doesn't have a bow tie. That means you can't trace every penny. If they don't get enough money with income taxes, they just take it from the gas or property taxes.

Schools are paid for by property taxes.

Roads are paid for by gas taxes.

Not one red cent of the income tax goes to benefit any Americain in any way.  100% goes back into the hands of the Banksters, where it issued to further foment wars that they profit from.

And the only way they can get away with it is because they have so many ignorant lemmings like you to promote the myths you're espousing.

Freewill is god given at time of birth, it is called free agency in the bible.
Freedom is not equal to freewill.

Freedom is something those who I am descended came here for, we don't have it.
Laws are not just to protect others, not in this country or any other.
Laws supress freedom in genral. For example the government prohibits certain harmful substances from being used while allowing other equally as harmful substances. I found a site that lists quite a few unconstitutional laws.

Sage you clearly are having your time of the month based off your posts here.
You are ignored, have a nice life.
Bottom line, Free agency is God given, Freedom is a lack of human rights violating laws which no country currently has.
According to your logic even slaves have/had freedom, They have free will. They can refuse to work and "accept the consequences," they can run away and "accept the consequences."

Do you really think, that your government is spending less on wars, when you don't pay taxes? They don't. They are spending less on schools, infrastructure, etc.
Btw. I am not an US-citizen and I am not with any government.

Spoken like a true government shill.  

If you believe in & support what that system is doing, go ahead...send them your wealth.  Hell, send them double if you feel it benefits the world so much.

But.. If you send in that check out of fear of what might happen if you didn't, then who's the coward!

Show me one benefit the Federal Reserve scam has done for the world.

Nothing but endless wars, torture, mayhem... and the economic raping of the true value producers of the world have resulted from that system.

How do I & others who refuse to support that system benefit the world?  If the answer to that isn't painfully obvious then you're brainwashed beyond hope.  

And for the record, since the corporate tax only goes to fund the military industrial establishment, I fully support google, apple, & any other company doing absolutely everything in their power to avoid enabling that monster too.

Any government "benefit" any American receives does not come from the illegal & immoral income tax & the Federal Reserve scam that is behind it.  Your government's own Grace commission proved that.

You government shills gotta get more creative.  You're using the oldest tactics in the book.  Nobody but the mindless lemmings buys those tired tactics.

So, what exactly is the difference between you guys and a company like Google, that also have it's ways to avoid taxes? You "anarchists" do the same as this "bad capitalists".
Your "civil disobedience" just benefits yourself, so don't act like some kind of freedom fighter. You are not going to change this "corrupt & evil systems". You are just making it worse for people who can't use the same tricks as you.
Spread as much BS as you want, but as long as you can't show, how you make the world a better place for other people than you, you are just an ego manic coward.

Ehm, I think you got it wrong. On every paycheck that I receive, sums are withdrawn for social security, medicare, etc.

You don't get it Turvarya.... Crypto currencies have changed the game.

There is no need to "resist" anything.   Simply ignore them & conduct business outside of that corrupt system... in spite of their threats & intimidation tactics. 

Good luck 3 letter agencies finding & seizing crypto assets!  They are powerless against this new paradigm.  Fear is the only card they have left to keep the spineless lemmings compliant.  Soon enough the lemmings too will realize the game has changed.

Non-violent civil disobedience has always been the most effective agent of change against corrupt & evil systems... and always takes courage.  Calling us cowards proves that YOU have no idea what you're talking about.

The difference is, that you guys don't officially declare, that you stop paying taxes. You are not a resistance movement, you are just some cowards hiding in the shadow and hope to don't get caught.
Comparing yourself to real revolutionaries just shows, that you have no idea, what you are talking about.

Yes, because tax revolts are so un-American and never achieve anything ....


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston_Tea_Party

It is ALWAYS about the money you fools, taxes are at the root of the evil of a coercive state. Only criminals steal under the colour of threat of violence.

How flawed can your logic be?  Did you bother to read that before posting?

We all have our freewill.  And with freewill comes the responsibility to accept the consequences of all freewill choices. Nobody has the right to violate anyone's freewill.  Do so & you most certainly should go to prison.

Your logic trying to paint true free men/women as criminals could not be more flawed & idiotic.

Only courageous humans who refuse to answer to anyone but their own conscience, always respecting the freewill of others, & the Golden Rule are truly free.  (The exact opposite of any criminal.)

Or come to the realization that you answer to no one.  Not to any government.  Not to any external authority.

You answer to natural law only.

How many governments are using fear & intimidation to get you to break those natural laws, forcing you to be party to killing & torture?

Doesn't matter if they forced you to or not, there's still a karmic price on your head for enabling that killing & torture.

Consider how much your spinelessness, falling prey to their fear & intimidation, is really costing your soul.

Consider what you're enabling next time you so gleefully write that check to the illegal & outlaw collection agency for the fraudulent Federal Reserve.

There is nothing good that has come from the Federal Reserve scam... only pain & suffering for all of humanity.

Any moral human would resist with all their heart & soul enabling such a system in any way.  Even if that means risking jail, torture, or even death.

Nobody is truly free.
Freedom is a nearly unattainable ideal.

The way to have freedom is to be outside the jurisdiction of any government.
Career Criminals have true freedom, they do as they please.
They exercise their freedom until another human exercises the freedom to imprison them.
Most of us cannot/will-not take our rebellion to outlaw level.

A truly free world/country would be bloody.

And still people in here, think they are free, because they keep as much money for themselves as possible.

I use BTC.
I run a 1TB freenet node.
I pirate things.
I piss in polices coffee.
I advocate free thought when possible and encourage individuals to stop thinking like lemmings.
I break many laws.
I contribute nothing, and take everything.
I hope and pray for the day that the mountain of debt becomes a vertical wall and the U.S. falls on its fat ass.
I encourage others to do all of the above.

Fear of the law makes you a slave.
Materialism makes you a slave.
Lack of education makes you a slave.
Inability to form your own thoughts/opinions makes you a slave.
Gluttony makes a slave.
Sexual immorality makes you a slave.
Laziness/sloth makes you a slave.
Laws confine/restrict/punish human liberty.
Government/Civilization enslaves the human race.