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It's rather ironic a governemt paid shill calling the forum members who call him out trolls.

Is that the only card you have left botoko86?  No more baseless propaganda you're going to try to pass off as fact?

Sheesh, they gotta start training you shills better.
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And if that one was too much for you botolo86, here's it is explained in even simpler terms you might be able to actually understand...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGk5ioEXlIM

Wake up!  Only the Banksters benefit from that system you shill for.

Try to play by your master's rules, botolo86, and you'll forever be a slave.

There is no winning that game.  They set the rules.  

The only American & patriotic thing to do is refuse to play.

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Perhaps you should learn how the system you shill for works botolo86.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFDe5kUUyT0

Don't tell your masters what you're watching now.
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Are you smarter then a 12 year old botolo86?

Apparently not!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHQOX8EVNmE

The central bank scam works the same way in Canada as it does in the US.
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My dad pays a massive Medicare premium that is hardly affordable on a regular basis. Taxes don't fucking benefit Medicare, they're just flushed down the drain.

Medicare, Medicaid (for poor people), Obama Care, these are just some examples of money coming from federal income tax which are used to help people. Sage said "nobody receives help from federal income taxes". This is simply not true. Then we can discuss whether people receive enough help, whether we should spend tax money better, etc. But saying that federal income tax is used to pay for the debt and that's it is simply not true.

Even your own, link botolo86, says its funded by the payroll tax!

And boy do we sure get our moneys worth (eye roll).  If the government stayed out of medicare & free market forces were actually allowed at play in the marketplace, there would be no need for that payroll tax either.   Aspirin couldn't be billed at $25 per pill... nobody would pay that if they had to directly.  You could actually pay cash for your medical services and afford to do so.

You think we got a "benefit" from that system?  Nope.  The congressional lobbying by insurance companies, pharmaceutical companies, & health care "providers" created yet another forced system of enslavement.

Clever bastards they are.  But just as evil motives behind that system as those behind the biggest scam the world has ever seen... the Federal Reserve

Wake up botolo86.  Do your own research beyond what your masters allow you... The income tax benefits only the Banksters.

The Federal Reserve scam was forced into law in early morning hours of Christmas Eve, 1913.  It was voted at that time by design.   Knowing the only congress members that would be present were those in collusion with the banksters.

That very same year the income tax was forced on the people... under very dubious circumstances as well (See The Law That Never Was).

Coincidence?

Nope... it was all done by design.  Knowing that income tax would end up in their pockets.

botolo86 is dead wrong.  100% of the income tax goes to pay interest on the debt, & back into the Banksters pockets.

Where it is used to foment wars for profit.  To further enslave nation states through the debt to the Banksters those wars lead to.

botolo86, how do you shills sleep at night?  Knowing the death & mayhem the system you shill for is behind?

You're either willfully ignorant or have sold your soul to the devil.
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My dad pays a massive Medicare premium that is hardly affordable on a regular basis. Taxes don't fucking benefit Medicare, they're just flushed down the drain.

Medicare, Medicaid (for poor people), Obama Care, these are just some examples of money coming from federal income tax which are used to help people. Sage said "nobody receives help from federal income taxes". This is simply not true. Then we can discuss whether people receive enough help, whether we should spend tax money better, etc. But saying that federal income tax is used to pay for the debt and that's it is simply not true.
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RIP Mommy
Show me one single benefit you or any other American receives as a consequence of the income tax!

One single benefit: Medicare. I know tons of American over 65 years old that receive their health benefits via Medicare. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medicare_(United_States)#Financing

My dad pays a massive Medicare premium that is hardly affordable on a regular basis. Taxes don't fucking benefit Medicare, they're just flushed down the drain.
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Show me one single benefit you or any other American receives as a consequence of the income tax!

One single benefit: Medicare. I know tons of American over 65 years old that receive their health benefits via Medicare. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medicare_(United_States)#Financing
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@Sage and cryptoanarchist

You just repeat the same BS over and over again, without showing any evidence, besides a 30 year old report.
It doesn't become true, just because you repeat it over and over again.
It doesn't become true, just because you call other people shills.

People like you are the worst. Practical stealing from others but still claim to be on a moral high ground.
I really hope you guys get caught, it would be better for the world.
I am out.

turvarya, you really need "evidence" that city taxes pay for your garbage bill.  That gas taxes pay for your roads.  That property taxes pay for schools (all of which the private sector could do for better & far cheaper... but that's another discussion).

...your arguments justifying the income tax could not be more pathetic & baseless.

It's YOU repeating the same tired & baseless argument to justify the illegal, immoral income tax.  

Show me one single benefit you or any other American receives as a consequence of the income tax!

It's the Federal Reserve scam behind the income tax that is raping & stealing the wealth from the true value producers of the world.  Not I.

...And they get away with it because of apathetic brainwashed lemmings who spout this baseless propaganda.

I already told you, that I am not a US-citizen. You are really a special kind of ignorant.


Then hardly qualified to be commenting on a system that you're obviously completely ignorant about!  

Do humanity a favor & delete the propaganda you pummeled on them that is -- by your own admission -- based in complete ignorance.

...Who's the special kind of ignorant turvarya!


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@Sage and cryptoanarchist

You just repeat the same BS over and over again, without showing any evidence, besides a 30 year old report.
It doesn't become true, just because you repeat it over and over again.
It doesn't become true, just because you call other people shills.

People like you are the worst. Practical stealing from others but still claim to be on a moral high ground.
I really hope you guys get caught, it would be better for the world.
I am out.

turvarya, you really need "evidence" that city taxes pay for your garbage bill.  That gas taxes pay for your roads.  That property taxes pay for schools (all of which the private sector could do for better & far cheaper... but that's another discussion).

...your arguments justifying the income tax could not be more pathetic & baseless.

It's YOU repeating the same tired & baseless argument to justify the illegal, immoral income tax.  

Show me one single benefit you or any other American receives as a consequence of the income tax!

It's the Federal Reserve scam behind the income tax that is raping & stealing the wealth from the true value producers of the world.  Not I.

...And they get away with it because of apathetic brainwashed lemmings who spout this baseless propaganda.

I already told you, that I am not a US-citizen. You are really a special kind of ignorant.
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In my opinion here are a lot of older people that have issue with paying taxes, regardless of amount.
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@Sage and cryptoanarchist

You just repeat the same BS over and over again, without showing any evidence, besides a 30 year old report.
It doesn't become true, just because you repeat it over and over again.
It doesn't become true, just because you call other people shills.

People like you are the worst. Practical stealing from others but still claim to be on a moral high ground.
I really hope you guys get caught, it would be better for the world.
I am out.

turvarya, you really need "evidence" that city taxes pay for your garbage bill.  That gas taxes pay for your roads.  That property taxes pay for schools (all of which the private sector could do for better & far cheaper... but that's another discussion).

...your arguments justifying the income tax could not be more pathetic & baseless.

It's YOU repeating the same tired & baseless argument to justify the illegal, immoral income tax.  

Show me one single benefit you or any other American receives as a consequence of the income tax!

It's the Federal Reserve scam behind the income tax that is raping & stealing the wealth from the true value producers of the world.  Not I.

...And they get away with it because of apathetic brainwashed lemmings who spout this baseless propaganda.
hero member
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@Sage and cryptoanarchist

You just repeat the same BS over and over again, without showing any evidence, besides a 30 year old report.
It doesn't become true, just because you repeat it over and over again.
It doesn't become true, just because you call other people shills.

People like you are the worst. Practical stealing from others but still claim to be on a moral high ground.
I really hope you guys get caught, it would be better for the world.
I am out.
legendary
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"Proposed" spending as "evidence" to justify the illegal income tax?

The federal government has a lot of sources of revenue.  Some are actually legal & constitutional.  To use those sources of revenue and "proposed" spending of that revenue to justify the ILLEGAL & IMMORAL income tax just goes to show just how flawed your logic is.

Not one red cent of the illegal income tax goes to benefit any American in any way!

Wake up SHILL!

You're on the wrong side of history!  The paradigm has changed.  Your 101 year scam is over.  You & the organizations you shill for are a dieing dinosaur.


I'd just ignore the government paid shill, Sage. His time is up and its better that he doesn't know it.
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It's laughable that you would use the Presidents proposed total spending to justify the the income tax.

OMG, you guys simply can't read. I told you that you can check the public balance of past years on the same website, all checked by this non-governmental entity. Guys, you can argue what you want but if the government publishes the balance and it's checked by a non-governmental entity, if you want to counter argue you have to bring evidence. Bring me an analysis of some reliable entity that has checked the balance of government of 2012 or 2013 and proves what you say. Then we will talk.

"Proposed" spending as "evidence" to justify the illegal income tax?

The federal government has a lot of sources of revenue.  Some are actually legal & constitutional.  To use those sources of revenue and "proposed" spending of that revenue to justify the ILLEGAL & IMMORAL income tax just goes to show just how flawed your logic is.

Not one red cent of the illegal income tax goes to benefit any American in any way!

Wake up SHILL!

You're on the wrong side of history!  The paradigm has changed.  Your 101 year scam is over.  You & the organizations you shill for are a dieing dinosaur.


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It's laughable that you would use the Presidents proposed total spending to justify the the income tax.

OMG, you guys simply can't read. I told you that you can check the public balance of past years on the same website, all checked by this non-governmental entity. Guys, you can argue what you want but if the government publishes the balance and it's checked by a non-governmental entity, if you want to counter argue you have to bring evidence. Bring me an analysis of some reliable entity that has checked the balance of government of 2012 or 2013 and proves what you say. Then we will talk.
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what pisses me off about that pie chart if it is accurate is the 33%. That is mostly bullshit wasted money. I have been paying into SS for over a decade and I put a massive amount into my own retirement accounts myself, 33% for a support network and welfare and unemployment (which are being GROSSLY abused) is too fucking much.
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Another government shill spouting mis-information.  How do you shills sleep at night?  

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Grace_Commission

"With two thirds of everyone’s personal income taxes wasted or not collected, 100 percent of what is collected is absorbed solely by interest on the federal debt and by federal government contributions to transfer payments. In other words, all individual income tax revenues are gone before one nickel is spent on the services [that] taxpayers expect from their government."

Do you really think anything has changed?

Not one red cent of the income tax goes to benefit any American whatsoever.  It goes back into the banksters pockets.  All by design.  

...Where it is used to foment wars for profit...  

That's what central banks do... enslave nations with debt through fomenting, then funding wars.  That's what you're supporting when you send in that check to the private criminal organization known as the Federal Reserve & their collection agency the IRS.



Interesting, you are referring to the results of a commission that presented its report more than thirty years ago. It's a little bit old evidence.

Just to clarify how taxes work, here is some additional info for you, released by the National Priorities Project, an American non-governmental organization founded in 1983. NPP’s mission is to make federal budgets transparent and accessible so that citizens can engage in overseeing and influencing how their tax dollars are spent.

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Priorities_Project

According to the report total federal tax revenues in fiscal year 2014 are projected to be $3 trillion. These revenues come from three major sources: income taxes paid by individuals, accounting for 46 percent of all tax revenues; payroll taxes paid jointly by workers and employers, accounting for 34 percent; and corporate income taxes paid by businesses, making up 11 percent.

Source: http://nationalpriorities.org/budget-basics/federal-budget-101/revenues/

In fiscal year 2014, the federal government will spend around $3.8 trillion. [...] The U.S. Treasury divides all spending into three groups: mandatory spending and discretionary spending and interest on debt. Interest on debt, which is much smaller than the other two categories, is the interest the government pays on its accumulated debt, minus interest income received by the government for assets it owns.

This is where the spending will go:



Source: http://nationalpriorities.org/budget-basics/federal-budget-101/spending/alt/?utm_expid=84498401-5.1T2lB6d5SEmMcoN-3M_tZA.1&utm_referrer=http%3A%2F%2Fnationalpriorities.org%2Fanalysis%2F

If you want, you can also see how taxes were used in previous years, by accessing the public budget that you can find on the pages of the same website.

In any case, I am not going to participate in this debate anymore, OP in his last post showed how little respect he has for the freedom to express your own thoughts. I was trying to create a constructive debate together with other users here but reading about "the stupidity of people", "morons", "food source" simply demonstrate how little you guys are interested in a fair exchange of ideas and opinions.



What botolo86, don't feel respected? (tear tear)  Not use to "citizens" not bowing to your every word?

God forbid they question your propaganda?

God forbid they don't cower at your fear & intimidation tactics!

God forbid they call out you & your shilling for what it is!

Yep the Grace commission was 30 years old.  Since then debt created by the illegal & fraudulent Federal Reserve has only exploded.

So too has the interest payment!  Reaching the dangerous tipping point of more then 100% GDP.


If you don't understand the significance of that botolo86, then perhaps you should ask your masters.  Or maybe actually do your own thinking & research outside of your masters approved boundaries.

It's laughable that you would use the Presidents proposed total spending to justify the the income tax.

…KNOWING that not ONE RED CENT OF THE INCOME TAX goes to ANY of that "proposed" spending other then interest on the debt to the frauds at the Federal Reserve.

There are actually LEGAL & CONSTITUTIONAL ways the federal government can fund itself.  The income tax is NOT one of them!

How do you shills sleep at night?  Knowing the pain & suffering your organization has caused in the world?  Do they brainwash you so much that you don't use an ounce of intellect or reason any longer?

...Or do they just buy you off, offering so much wealth ethics be damned?

You're either willfully ignorant or you've sold your soul botolo86.  In either case shills like you deserve no respect or attention.








legendary
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In other words, all individual income tax revenues are gone before one nickel is spent on the services [that] taxpayers expect from their government."

Do you really think anything has changed?

Not one red cent of the income tax goes to benefit any American whatsoever.  It goes back into the banksters pockets.  All by design.  

Somehow my roads and bridges are getting repaired, snow is being plowed, my library is open and lending books and videos, my water works, my sewer works, my court systems are functioning, police are responding when needed, fire engines are putting out fires, etc. etc.

If none of that is being paid for, then I guess I'm happy everyone is working for free for me.  Roll Eyes


Roads/bridges are paid for by gas taxes.

Sewer & library is paid for by city taxes.

Water is paid for by you.  Did you miss your water bill?

Local police, fire, and courts are all paid for by city/state taxes.

Not one red cent of the income tax goes toward any of those things.  Another brainwashed lemming!


You are well on the way to a Detroit moment ...

mostly those taxes go into public pension funds, that have actually been siphonoed off by "financial services".
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