Topic: I don't understand you people... (Read 1118 times)

If you do have that lacking of experience and awareness on how this market moves then you would really be that basically or normally be having that kind of reaction on which on every movement that it makes
then you would really be freaking out with those small movements. You would really be making out those kind of questions into your mind on how the heck the price movement is too fast.?
On the time that you do able to get that sufficient experience on how this market works then you wont really be that impulsive and reactive on the movement that it would be having.
The profit making and decisions would be just that depending on you because there are people who do make out some short trades and there are ones who do tend to hold for long.
Risk management would really be that different to each other and outcomes and results will really vary.

some people are very easily swayed when the market moves very fast. but some people have strong principles to stick to their investment plans.
Experienced investors have their targets. and they know when to sell or hold the Bitcoin they own.
Those who trade, can indeed benefit from market situations that move quite quickly. but in situations like that traders also have to have good calculations.

Op may be happier with short profits even if they are small. it wouldn't be a problem when he would later know which actually brought greater profits.

Your desire is different from other people, and whenever you see some people hodling their BTC when the price is higher in the market, they have a particular price they are waiting to happen in the market before they can sell.

If you are still lacking the knowledge of trading, it will be difficult for you to understand people in the market because it is the knowledge that will make you to buy coins in the bear run and hodl for the bear run to come before you can trade to earn profits.

If you want $100k to be your target in the nex bear run, don't trade your BTC until the price of your choice come to the market before you can trade, which is what you are seeing professional traders doing in the market when the price is high.

It is safer to maintain a range in my opinion. Like for example, you start buying at any price that goes below 60k and sell at any price that goes above 70k USD. If you jump to frequently, you will increase the chances of getting washed out and going in the wrong direction. A lot of things happening in the world politics at this point and the bitcoin halving just happened and hence different forces are in effect and the net movement is indeed difficult to predict.

Hence the bottom line is still same, panic leads to losses and hence avoid FOMO.

You are right. No matter how much of an expert someone is, they won't be able to perfectly time every single trade, and no one knows that the market conditions from this week or month will match the situations in the next week or month. Sometimes, we do get very good opportunities where the market goes down, we buy, hold a little bit, and then sell as the market goes up a little bit, but that doesn't happen all the time.

Besides, not everyone can make quick decisions when it comes to trading whether they should or shouldn't buy at a certain point. On a lot of occasions, people feel scared of taking the risk because they lack knowledge about the market and they feel they might lose their money if they trade.

to be frank trading nowaday is more of battle of emotion management literally you can make big money if you are patient enough had you bought at the bottom and what allows most of people that profitted nowaday have the gut to buy at the very bottom, its definitely the emotion to go against the waves, buying at the bottom feels depressing but it is what it takes to make profit in the future when we are hitting bullrun.

i mean whenever market seems grim and its just getting down and down the emotion we are going through will definitely feel distasteful but thats what it takes to be having huge success.

quite ironically thats what a natural market should behave tbh you will see everywhere whales are dominating whatever thing they can exploit with their abundant resources and capital power.

you will definitely see similar thing anywhere else unless things got regulated by the government then people with bigger capital will always have the advantage, as a small fries that tries their luck in trading, just following the current and predicting what whales move could be sufficient enough, but you should never mistake a market where the demand just fluctuating and whales movement, i mean a market might seems heavily manipulated since the fluctuation of price is big enough but that not necessarily being manipulated, maybe its just how the market behave at that moment, its all demand and supply at the end of the day.

I think this incident brought about the topic- Why are whales affecting the market so badly. Which is true, this big investors are toiling with the market last week and this week. Not just them alone the ETF organisation are contributing to the fluctuation of bitcoin price. Seriously it is affecting short term investors not long term and also traders are the only ones benefiting from it. Although only professional traders are enjoying the profit. Newbies in trading would have lost so much because they lack the knowledge to time the market this period. It is obviously above their level of knowledge.

Maybe not on assumptions, but most of us trade based on our own understanding, because not everyone can have the same level of knowledge and expertise about certain things, you might have a different understanding and more or less knowledge than I do, but both of us will make our decisions by the end of the day and those decisions will be based on our level of understanding and how much research and analysis we can do.

So, it's important for every trader and investor to have as much knowledge as possible so that they can assess the situations and make the right decisions at the right time, if you lack knowledge and understanding, you will struggle in making the right decisions.

Real prevalent thing happening to retail investors for real, that's probably because most if not all want to squeeze in a little bit more profit and then the price starts dropping in and now they're discouraged because it's not their target price, that's normal in a volatile market I think, people making mistakes because the market is unpredictable. Maybe OP it's not your job to understand everyone here, I think that it's even not your business to do so, just my cup of tea.

Most traders tried to overthink and say, trading is an easy game. And that is the reason why most of us traders fail from such assumptions and thinking when we know in real that the market is unpredictable. We can't make good timing all the time and therefore, losses are not impossible. Even we spend 24 hours every day in trading and analyzing the market condition, maybe there is some changes but this won't guarantee that we've got a perfect buy/sell call. After all, that still lies in the actual scenario and depends on the decision we made as we can't expect that what happened yesterday and today will also happen tomorrow.

You make it sound so easy to make a profit in trading, when in reality it's not that easy. Sure buying low and selling high is the way to make a good profit, but how do we actually know when the bottom or the peak is reached? The timing question is the hardest to answer and most people are struggling here. Just look at the large number of HODL investors that don't have to worry at all about when to sell. Making a 15k USD loss in crypto currencies seems like a lot, why would you ever sell at such a high loss? In that case I would rather keep my coins and wait for the next bull run. It's now the second time Bitcoin reached a new ATH above 60,000 USD. We all know that crypto currencies like most other assets are moving in cycles and we can sit it out in case we missed our opportunity to sell. Afterwards it's always easy to know if we made the right or the wrong decision, but in the moment it's really hard to make the right call consistently. At least we shouldn't feel bad about all the people that are buying now instead of selling, because without them you wouldn't be able to take a profit. Personally, I am not going to sell any of my coins now.

Specially if you do make use of those technicals on which you are assuming that the price might already have that strong reversal signal but it do ends up on having that long accumulation or consolidation period on which
on this time you would really be having those kind of thoughts that there might be something wrong. From here then you would really be having that kind of approach on making up some changes into your strategy
and on the time that the price did make out some movement on which this is something that will really be raising some questions in mind.

Buy low Sell high might really that sound pretty basic but on the time that you are on such situation on making out some positioning or buying or selling decision then this is where you would really be
finding this condition to be really that a huge challenge as a trader or investor. Theer would really be those "what ifs?" into your mind on which this is something that
boggles up on what you are been dealing on with.

Most traders, especially newbies, don't follow this, and as soon as they decide to start trading, they start looking for groups and people who can provide them with signals and help them with their trades instead of trying to learn everything themselves and do their trades themselves because one should have more confidence when they are making such decisions themselves instead of letting someone else do that for them.

This is a mistake, undoubtedly, because you can't rely on someone else's knowledge forever, and there will be times when you will be left alone and at those times, you will feel helpless because even if market conditions remain favourable for trading, you wouldn't be able to do that due to a lack of knowledge and experience about the market and trading practices.

If you buy when the graph is still down/correcting, you are very vulnerable. I think what you are saying is also a form of disappointment when you look at the market and have bought why the reversal took so long even though we thought it was time. In my experience, we have to really wait for the correction while it is completely gone, whether 4 hours or 8 hours later. If we have just entered a decline once, we are still very vulnerable to a further decline. This is where many people get trapped and involved, especially when they hear the opinions of other people whose analysis we think is correct.

Yes, indeed everyone can invest in Bitcoin or trade Bitcoin, but the most important thing before they decide to invest or trade is of course that they must have knowledge in this matter and it would be better if there was someone who could advise us on what we are doing both investing or in trading, because if we trade or invest without knowledge then it is very likely that we will not be able to make a profit from the trading and investment that we make, of course no one can know for sure when the price of Bitcoin will increase and when it will fall, so it is important for us to be able to analyze the market so that you can do it correctly to make a profit.

A person has complete personal freedom when to invest in Bitcoin. You can give good advice in detail if you want but you can't impose your decision on others And holders or traders when to invest or trade bitcoins depends on their own knowledge.  And when Bitcoin dumps, most investors are definitely investing in Bitcoin And none of us can accurately assess the value of the Bitcoin market. Because most of us don't know what price Bitcoin is going to reach in the future. So all things considered we have to invest or trade based on a lot of assumptions.

In trading or investment, without capital, you have empty hands and have nothing to do with your account and the market.

If you can protect your capital, you can have other chances to get profit. The market is always here and it's only you will be here, with capital to trade or to invest in future or not. Without money, you will have to leave the market even you don't want to do so.

Capital safety first before thinking of trading or investing, profit or loss.

One of best weapons in trading.

It all matters with someones perception and approach on things on which not all would really be that sensible on the things that they are doing on which not all would really be that wary and do the opposite
things on which its something that they wont really be needing to do such thing or really need not needed to do so. Not all people would really be that having that kind of decision making on things because there
are ones who do really do the opposite but instead they would really be that doing the things which arent supposed to be done and would only notice once the price movement do happen or do goes on that way.

People will always have different mindset from each other. And you can’t expect people to think same with your thinking. So do what you think is right and spare them. At the end of the day, your success or failure won’t depend on them, it’s always because of your decision making. People win and lose from investing or trading, but if you know a strategy that will keep you winning consistently, then focus on that and let other people stick to their own as well.

Doing trading or investing with emotions is of course very unlikely to be successful in trading or investing, so it is very important for us if we decide to invest or trade to be able to control our emotions so that we don't experience losses in investing or trading. because if we make decisions in an emotional state, of course we will not be able to make profitable decisions on the investments we make and we have to make decisions without emotions so that we can make profitable decisions on the investments we make.

Yes, when trading, of course it would be better if we did our own research before making decisions on the trades we make, because if we follow other people's advice, of course it will be very detrimental if we experience failure in the trades we make and it is very different from the failures that we make. If we do it ourselves, we can still learn so that we can improve it in future trades.