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Quote from: Last Unicorn on March 05, 2024, 03:46:06 PM

When I see that the price is flying down steeply, I sell everything and let it fall down. When it stops, then I buy cheap and I have earned...
BTC is going down now, so let it go and buy when it stops. We can all make money from it and then we will again get it up together! Unfortunately, there are always a few "geniuses" who go against the flow and they are buying when they should be selling, and that destroying everyone's earnings...
I'm seriously upset because a couple of such " smart " people just ruined my chance to make up loss... I would like to kick them somewhere!

The current bitcoin market is above 68k they bought bitcoin around December 2023 they have profited greatly. Day by day BTC price is increasing now if we buy BTC I don't know how much profit we can get but if we could buy BTC when it was 40k then surely we could get a lot of profit by buying BTC. Of course, our patience is very important in Bitcoin investment, many times many big investors lose patience, if we can invest patiently, we will definitely get a lot of success with Bitcoin. Of course, we need to have a long-term plan when investing in Bitcoin. If we invest patiently after checking the market, we will definitely get success by investing bitcoin.

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Quote from: MFahad on March 08, 2024, 11:32:57 AM

Quote from: moneystery on March 07, 2024, 11:00:55 AM

why are you angry at people who actually have nothing to do with you? you can't say to investors that "hey guys, stop buying, i wanted to buy that bitcoin at a lower price and the price increase bothers me" you can't because of who you are tell people to do what they want to do.

so stop complaining about what people are doing and just focus on your investment, because if you feel smarter than most people, it shouldn't be difficult for you to make a profit from the current bitcoin price.

If someone is smart enough to understand what would happen if people do a certain thing, they should be able to time the market in a much better way than those people, so if OP thinks others are crazy and out of their minds then he should observe their actions and then plan his actions accordingly to stay on the positive side while others would stay on the negative side at the end of the day.
However, that isn't the case, OP isn't an expert himself and he probably has no idea about the market and how different cryptocurrencies move, he is just generalizing things and reaching conclusions on his own without having any solid point in his claims.

Reality is OP does not have much experiences in the market because if he is really a well-experienced one, he will understand that not all people in the market follow the same process or action. Probably he is only basing his analysis from his readings and observations in the market. But we all know that not everything written in the books are working in the real market. There is more to what we can experience in the real market.

However, what OP thinks at this moment might probably change in the future once he’s well experienced and skillful enough. We don’t have to criticize him as well as everyone may commits mistakes at first, but eventually learn from all his mistakes in the end.

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Quote from: Last Unicorn on March 05, 2024, 03:46:06 PM

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I'm seriously upset because a couple of such " smart " people just ruined my chance to make up loss... I would like to kick them somewhere!

Easy to say, but difficult to implement.
Trust me, it's easy to say "I will buy it at the bottom" but the truth is, you don't know when it make a reversal.

Are you upset with those smart people? Why not be one of them instead so you can make the most profit like what they're doing? Kicking them for what? Because they're smart enough to gain profit while you OP, are losing your money. That's how life is. Some will go up, and some will go down. What's worse is that there are people out there who criticize other people because of what they're doing. I didn't know that being "smart" was a bad thing already. Cheesy

You can say like "I'll buy when it stops going down." but do you know when it will stop going down?

Just focus on yourself OP instead of criticizing these "smart" people that you're saying. Instead of focusing on criticizing on them, focus on being one of them.

Well said mate. They say if you can’t beat them, then be one of them. I guess that will help you OP to analyze that not all in the market follow a certain rule. Sometimes we tend to break rules in order to save ourselves from losing our future profits. If you want to stick to your own rule OP, then just follow what you want and never leave negative comments to other people. Remember that what may work for you will not work for them, that’s why never expect that everyone in the market will follow the same path. Where they think they can be successful, that’s where they’ll focus on doing.

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It’s not always possible to buy an asset at the right moment, you think it’s so easy... in reality it’s hard. I would even say that most beginners do exactly as you describe. I believe you can never understand where the market is going and the ideal entry point. And if you manage to earn money, then this is of course your merit, apparently your experience is very good.

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Quote from: Last Unicorn on March 05, 2024, 03:46:06 PM

I'm seriously upset because a couple of such " smart " people just ruined my chance to make up loss... I would like to kick them somewhere!

So you are upset because a few "smart" people ruined your idea and your chances to make up for what you lost because of your "stupid" idea. Or is it the other way around? A few "stupid" people ruined your "smart" idea. Or is it... I'm lost here.

Anyway, it seems like that wasn't your brightest idea, and neither was this topic.

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Quote from: Last Unicorn on March 05, 2024, 03:46:06 PM

When I see that the price is flying down steeply, I sell everything and let it fall down. When it stops, then I buy cheap and I have earned...
BTC is going down now, so let it go and buy when it stops. We can all make money from it and then we will again get it up together! Unfortunately, there are always a few "geniuses" who go against the flow and they are buying when they should be selling, and that destroying everyone's earnings...
I'm seriously upset because a couple of such " smart " people just ruined my chance to make up loss... I would like to kick them somewhere!

Why going through all this stress where you can buy and hold your Bitcoin without stress.

Selling when the price is about to go down and buying when the price is down is another work on its own, you can miss out if you are busy and you can buy or sell at the wrong time.

Instead of doing all these, you can learn crypto trading and be benefiting from it if you can’t hold for long.

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Quote from: Last Unicorn on March 05, 2024, 03:46:06 PM

When I see that the price is flying down steeply, I sell everything and let it fall down. When it stops, then I buy cheap and I have earned...
BTC is going down now, so let it go and buy when it stops. We can all make money from it and then we will again get it up together! Unfortunately, there are always a few "geniuses" who go against the flow and they are buying when they should be selling, and that destroying everyone's earnings...
I'm seriously upset because a couple of such " smart " people just ruined my chance to make up loss... I would like to kick them somewhere!

I hope that you are not kidding like dear are you serious? how confident you are here like saying that you made lose due to smart and some genius people. Dude this is crypto space and things never work as you want sometimes market makes unwanted, undesired, unexpected moves and even traps a lot of traders and after reading your post I have a kind of idea about you... you are doing future trading with leverage? am I right? if so you are talking risk at your own end and do not put it on others like that. In my opinion, future trading has a high risk to our funds.

On the other hand, spot trading has less risk to our funds but risk is involved in both types of trading. Dear, in my opinion, one who has insufficient knowledge about the market sentiments or trends for him/her trading is just like gambling. So before starting trading, it will always be recommended that you should gain sufficient knowledge so that your risk can be reduced over your funds.

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Quote from: Last Unicorn on March 05, 2024, 03:46:06 PM

When I see that the price is flying down steeply, I sell everything and let it fall down. When it stops, then I buy cheap and I have earned...

And you turn out to be one hell of a knowledgeable trading guru.

Quote from: Last Unicorn on March 05, 2024, 03:46:06 PM

BTC is going down now, so let it go and buy when it stops.

Where did you see the BTC's fall?

Quote from: Last Unicorn on March 05, 2024, 03:46:06 PM

We can all make money from it and then we will again get it up together!

If everyone could make money on this, then the money would have to come out of thin air.

In the cryptomarket, as in any zero-sum game, it is impossible for everyone to be in profit.

Quote from: Last Unicorn on March 05, 2024, 03:46:06 PM

Unfortunately, there are always a few "geniuses" who go against the flow and they are buying when they should be selling, and that destroying everyone's earnings...

So is this everyone’s earnings or just your personal one?

Here everyone plays according to their own rules and for the sake of personal gain, and not everyone’s/yours.

Quote from: Last Unicorn on March 05, 2024, 03:46:06 PM

I'm seriously upset because a couple of such " smart " people just ruined my chance to make up loss... I would like to kick them somewhere!

Welcome to the real world of trading.

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Quote from: moneystery on March 07, 2024, 11:00:55 AM

why are you angry at people who actually have nothing to do with you? you can't say to investors that "hey guys, stop buying, i wanted to buy that bitcoin at a lower price and the price increase bothers me" you can't because of who you are tell people to do what they want to do.

so stop complaining about what people are doing and just focus on your investment, because if you feel smarter than most people, it shouldn't be difficult for you to make a profit from the current bitcoin price.

If someone is smart enough to understand what would happen if people do a certain thing, they should be able to time the market in a much better way than those people, so if OP thinks others are crazy and out of their minds then he should observe their actions and then plan his actions accordingly to stay on the positive side while others would stay on the negative side at the end of the day.
However, that isn't the case, OP isn't an expert himself and he probably has no idea about the market and how different cryptocurrencies move, he is just generalizing things and reaching conclusions on his own without having any solid point in his claims.

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Quote from: Last Unicorn on March 05, 2024, 03:46:06 PM

When I see that the price is flying down steeply, I sell everything and let it fall down. When it stops, then I buy cheap and I have earned...
BTC is going down now, so let it go and buy when it stops. We can all make money from it and then we will again get it up together!

You are making it right and profiting. Buy low and Sell High --that is how it works in investing. That is easy to understand unless we dare not to listen.
If all people are doing this, none of us are suffering losses and all will be rich but yes, we can't make them all do the same.

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Unfortunately, there are always a few "geniuses" who go against the flow and they are buying when they should be selling, and that destroying everyone's earnings...
I'm seriously upset because a couple of such " smart " people just ruined my chance to make up loss... I would like to kick them somewhere!

That is an example of a person who thought that doing it in the right way was a big mistake, so change it and do the opposite.
Well, don't bother yourself seeing them and we have to accept the fact that not all are able to understand the situation and keep strong because many are weak and easily give up upon seeing their portfolio decrease.

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Buying and selling bitcoins is everyone's own decision and I don't see any impact on other investors. Research the market according to your experience you can learn something good your investment decision will be better you can easily avoid losses. Looking at the price of bitcoin in the market you can see how much it has pumped. Keep it long term investment and there will be no disturbing effects if the price increases you will get a lot of profit.

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Quote from: Last Unicorn on March 05, 2024, 03:46:06 PM

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I'm seriously upset because a couple of such " smart " people just ruined my chance to make up loss... I would like to kick them somewhere!

Easy to say, but difficult to implement.
Trust me, it's easy to say "I will buy it at the bottom" but the truth is, you don't know when it make a reversal.

Are you upset with those smart people? Why not be one of them instead so you can make the most profit like what they're doing? Kicking them for what? Because they're smart enough to gain profit while you OP, are losing your money. That's how life is. Some will go up, and some will go down. What's worse is that there are people out there who criticize other people because of what they're doing. I didn't know that being "smart" was a bad thing already. Cheesy

You can say like "I'll buy when it stops going down." but do you know when it will stop going down?

Just focus on yourself OP instead of criticizing these "smart" people that you're saying. Instead of focusing on criticizing on them, focus on being one of them.

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Your approach describes a classic trading strategy known as "sell high, buy low," which aims to capitalize on market volatility to generate profits. This strategy requires precise timing and an understanding of market trends, which can be quite challenging even for experienced traders. The nature of the cryptocurrency market, particularly Bitcoin (BTC), is highly volatile and can change direction unexpectedly due to various factors including market sentiment, regulatory news, and macroeconomic trends.

While it's natural to feel frustrated when market movements don't align with your trading strategy, it's important to remember that the cryptocurrency market is decentralized and influenced by the collective actions of all participants. Each trader or investor has their strategy based on their risk tolerance, market outlook, and investment goals. Some may buy during downturns with a long-term perspective, while others might sell to cut losses or take profits.

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Are you talking about whales? I think those are the people who can manage to get the price down and ruin everyone's earnings. That's how much power they have. I don't think that we would be able to foresee what they are going to do and it's going to be hard.

I don't think you understand much how the market works.

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Quote from: shield132 on March 07, 2024, 04:49:47 AM

When you sell, you profit because someone buys. When you sell Bitcoin for 69K USD, someone buys it for 69K USD, otherwise you wouldn't be able to sell for this price. We can't have two winners, there is only one winner and one loser. There are many people who hesitate to buy Bitcoin during the bull run because many people call it a scam coin, then they see how it's going up and up, they still hesitate to buy and finally, all these people who were hesitating before, experience severe FOMO and buy when price is at it's all-time high. That's how it works, I expect the same because people never learn on their mistakes. Btw to be fair, it's not bad when they buy it at ATH, if they can hold it for years, then it means nothing because bitcoin will have another ATH after the next halving and long-term these people won't be in loss.

Well, in a sense you can buy at 50, sell at 60k, the other person bought at 60 and sold at 69. You both won, you both won about equal amounts as well, you could have won more if you didn't sell, but that doesn't change the fact that you both won. Doesn't really happen all the time, but it is not impossible neither. So you should always look for it to be something like that, you could always make it a better way.

I believe that the best thing to do would be just focusing on how much profit you could make personally. You are not responsible for what others make, and if you can make the best, then you should try to. You should aim at buying at the lowest possible amount, and sell at highest possible amount to make the most profit you can.

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Have you imagined OP if all investors are all together buying and holding? That never works in real life because your buy order just filled when someone is selling their Bitcoin. Buy and Sell is what we see in the market, and with the continuous movement of the market(up and down), we have a chance to earn.
Well, I would say, don't mind what other people are doing. Of course, they will sell when they get a good price to sell and invest again. If you think holding more until the next ATH, that was your choice.

We all have the same goal in investing and that is to earn money. You might be seeing people selling their BTC earlier, you can't say it was wrong when they are in profit already.

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There are many aphorisms that illustrate how irrational the market can be. You see that the market has risen, you sell Bitcoin and expect the price to fall, but... the price continues to rise. Moreover, it can grow for a very long time. And vice versa, the price has fallen and it seems to you that now the price will rise, you buy, but... the price continues to fall. This is a common occurrence in the market. Because mean reversion is not guaranteed in the market. The market can be irrational for a very long time. On the other hand, perhaps it is not the market that is irrational, but simply that you are looking at it incorrectly and have not done enough market research.

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Quote from: Last Unicorn on March 05, 2024, 03:46:06 PM

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I'm seriously upset because a couple of such " smart " people just ruined my chance to make up for a 15k loss... I would like to kick them somewhere!
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Well, I don't really get this part, How could you be making loss of 15K if someone is doing what they aren't supposed to do?

Trading is buying and selling, so when you are selling it means someone is buying for that price so you can't really sell something if no one is actually buying and if that's what you are suggesting as stupidity then the price will eventually goes to zero.

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Quote from: lovesmayfamilis on March 07, 2024, 10:16:04 AM

The OP comes to the forum once every three months to tell us how stupid everyone is here. OP, everything may seem simple in theory, but is it true that you know the exact dates of fall and rise for buying and selling?
Your theory would be good, but until you try it, you won't know that you can't predict the market. In addition, you need to be calm when observing price movements; impulsive actions that indicate that you know better what will happen next often lead to mistakes.

There’s no one here who can perfectly timing the market. That market is so uncertain and unpredictable that even veteran traders and investors still fail on their investments. Even knowing when to buy and sell makes us struggle sometimes. My point here is not everyone is inclined to crypto even you OP. Know that while you are winning, some are at their loss. So always respect other people’s concepts and decisions, and focus on your own. Focus on your own success and do not mind other people’s strategies.

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I don't understand what the fuss is about. What and who exactly are you angry about?
Aren't you supposed to be the one following the market? Is the market supposed to follow you? Where you made a loss is where someone else made a profit, so do you expect everyone to not buy or sell when they feel is okay for them for your sake?

Don't beat yourself up about it. All you have to do from your experiences is learn. Whether you made a profit or losses, you have to learn from the experience, and blaming others for your losses wouldn't teach you anything.
You have to sit down and analyze what you did wrong and what you could have done. Nobody predicts the market and gets it 100%, but with the right market analysis, you stand a higher chance of making a profit than losses.

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