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Quote from: Last Unicorn on March 05, 2024, 03:46:06 PM

When I see that the price is flying down steeply, I sell everything and let it fall down. When it stops, then I buy cheap and I have earned...
BTC is going down now, so let it go and buy when it stops. We can all make money from it and then we will again get it up together! Unfortunately, there are always a few "geniuses" who go against the flow and they are buying when they should be selling, and that destroying everyone's earnings...
I'm seriously upset because a couple of such " smart " people just ruined my chance to make up for a 15k loss... I would like to kick them somewhere!

You can definitely not control the market, the fact that the price of bitcoin is so unpredictable is what makes many people rush to buy when they are not supposed to buy and sell when they are not supposed to sell. This is just to avoid missing out on any opportunity available at that moment. More People are investing in Bitcoins on a daily basis and many will buy at what ever price they meet it. As a trader, you should know by now about the Bitcoin price volatility and this is one feature no trader should ignore. Venting your anger on those who are going about their normal business sounds like a joke to me. Put your emotions in check and allow other people do their thing.

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Quote from: Finestream on March 06, 2024, 04:56:20 PM

Quote from: batang_bitcoin on March 05, 2024, 03:53:41 PM

You have to understand that you're winning because someone is losing on the other end of this world. This is the market and we're all involved in this. And you can dictate what people will do, if they feel that they should buy at the peak, they'd do that. Before, there have been many that did that mistake and even til' now and on the next cycles, there will still be people that would do that. So, if you don't understand them, just mind your thing and keep repeating what you've been doing profitably.

You can’t control how every person would react to a certain price. And regardless of its price, as long as their intention is to buy and hold bitcoin, even if bitcoin price is very high, then that would not be a big problem after all. Just focus on your own investment and how would you make it profit from the current price. If you think it’s the best time to sell because you are already facing bigger profits, then sell. But if you think there’s a better price coming, then just wait and hold your coins.

Many are complaining about the price of Bitcoin because they can no longer afford to have it and you're right, no matter what the price of Bitcoin as long as they can afford to buy it then the price wouldn't matter to them. Because there are too many people that look after at the price, doesn't mean that it shouldn't be bought as they think the same that it's quite expensive already. But the thing on this matter is what we like to invest and what we can afford to do so. If we like Bitcoin, no one's gonna stop us from liking it.

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Quote from: Last Unicorn on March 05, 2024, 03:46:06 PM

When I see that the price is flying down steeply, I sell everything and let it fall down. When it stops, then I buy cheap and I have earned...

If it’s so easy, just the way you said it, then everyone will be rich by just trading. What you just said is the basics of trading, and that’s what people are supposed to be doing, but where everything gets compromised is that you can never know how low or high bitcoin will go at a particular time. You might end up buying bitcoin thinking the price is low already, but after buying bitcoin, it will keep on dumping, and most people will end up selling it back just because they panic and they will already be at lost. So if you can’t do your analysis well, then you will have problems because you won’t know when to buy or when to sell, you might be buying at the wrong time and selling at the wrong time.

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Quote from: moneystery on March 07, 2024, 11:00:55 AM

why are you angry at people who actually have nothing to do with you? you can't say to investors that "hey guys, stop buying, i wanted to buy that bitcoin at a lower price and the price increase bothers me" you can't because of who you are tell people to do what they want to do.

so stop complaining about what people are doing and just focus on your investment, because if you feel smarter than most people, it shouldn't be difficult for you to make a profit from the current bitcoin price.

And you should really be thinking off that this is a market on which it do really looks like a tug-of-war on which it would really be that something that a battle in between buyers and sellers. If there are people who do make
money then there are people who do loses up on the other side on which it would really be just that normal to those who do make money are the wiser ones and its true that not all would really be sharing up on the same idea on what people do have in mind because we do have that different analysis when it comes to price movement. It might sound that so easy on having that buy low sell high kind of principle but doing it on the actual
situation is the most hardest thing and if OP did find out this to be easy then its good for him since not all traders would really be having on the same condition.

This is why on the moment that you are really that making money then it would really be always best that you should really know on what you are doing. Just be grateful that you are doing well
into this volatile market or something which is really that speculative.

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Quote from: Faisal2202 on March 06, 2024, 09:29:09 AM

Quote from: Last Unicorn on March 05, 2024, 03:46:06 PM

BTC is going down now, so let it go and buy when it stops. We can all make money from it and then we will again get it up together! Unfortunately, there are always a few "geniuses" who go against the flow and they are buying when they should be selling, and that destroying everyone's earnings...
I'm seriously upset because a couple of such " smart " people just ruined my chance to make up for a 15k loss... I would like to kick them somewhere!

Unfortunately, you can't kick anyone, because you don't know who is selling or buying at the wrong time, due to anonymity and privacy concerns I hope you already know that Cheesy

And there could be many reasons for those smart people to not to sell at the time of selling and buying at that time, which according to your POV is the opposite. Well, what I am trying to say here is that they might be buying just to hold for a longer period of time.

And they don't care about the current price of BTC. Their plans are to hold it for another year and book profits when BTC makes a new ATH, of around $150k or less. I suggest you to control your emotions because it is not necessary that the way you see market, every other person should see. Every one have their own POVs and ideas about market and they do analysis accordingly. I suggest you to not blame other for your loss. Instaed try to be extra smart and a step ahead of these smart people in order to make profit (next time).

Sure, many people don't care about the prices involved, they just want to invest for the long term to make a profit and I think that is a good strategy, because sometimes when you see the prices of bitcoin increasing you will be thinking when ever you invest on it, the prices will probably decrease and you will lose your funds, but when you make up your mind that your investment is for the long term and whatever happens, you will just sell your coin and leave it for long term thing he reach your specific time before you can sell the coin.

Anyone who is blaming people for their losses is not smart enough, which is why they are losing. Since you have identified and know how to do it, it is better for you to make your own research without depending on anyone, because not everything they need to be telling you on trading or investment is you that will get up and make your own research and how you are trading, that is how you will be getting more experience without telling you anything. When you blame others for your losses, it shows you either trust them to assist you trade or you do not want to make your own decisions.

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To my Understand on what you are trying to explain, it is just a simple analysis you do you buy and when deep in price you sell and you make profit that is just a simple analysis that almost 60 to 70% of bitcoin holders do. You just have to understand that as you lose or gain it is also affecting someone else in the other hand. Which ever way that you are doing to make money on trading bitcoin is good for you Is everyone intention of buying bitcoin is either to make money or to use for a personal transactions.

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why are you angry at people who actually have nothing to do with you? you can't say to investors that "hey guys, stop buying, i wanted to buy that bitcoin at a lower price and the price increase bothers me" you can't because of who you are tell people to do what they want to do.

so stop complaining about what people are doing and just focus on your investment, because if you feel smarter than most people, it shouldn't be difficult for you to make a profit from the current bitcoin price.

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The OP comes to the forum once every three months to tell us how stupid everyone is here. OP, everything may seem simple in theory, but is it true that you know the exact dates of fall and rise for buying and selling?
Your theory would be good, but until you try it, you won't know that you can't predict the market. In addition, you need to be calm when observing price movements; impulsive actions that indicate that you know better what will happen next often lead to mistakes.

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Quote from: Finestream on March 06, 2024, 04:56:20 PM

You can’t control how every person would react to a certain price. And regardless of its price, as long as their intention is to buy and hold bitcoin, even if bitcoin price is very high, then that would not be a big problem after all. Just focus on your own investment and how would you make it profit from the current price. If you think it’s the best time to sell because you are already facing bigger profits, then sell. But if you think there’s a better price coming, then just wait and hold your coins.

We should all focus on our own investment rather than what others are doing. The only problem is what people around us in the market are doing might force us to withhold our orders. But in most cases I think we can ignore that and not think about "kicking anybody" and run our own strategy for the long run.

Its important to keep patience in this market and during times of up and down are definitely going to be tested for our skills to hold and seize the opportunity.

If prices have gone beyond your buying level, just wait it out because they will drop in the future.

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Quote from: Last Unicorn on March 05, 2024, 03:46:06 PM

When I see that the price is flying down steeply, I sell everything and let it fall down. When it stops, then I buy cheap and I have earned...
BTC is going down now, so let it go and buy when it stops. We can all make money from it and then we will again get it up together! Unfortunately, there are always a few "geniuses" who go against the flow and they are buying when they should be selling, and that destroying everyone's earnings...
I'm seriously upset because a couple of such " smart " people just ruined my chance to make up for a 15k loss... I would like to kick them somewhere!

When you sell, you profit because someone buys. When you sell Bitcoin for 69K USD, someone buys it for 69K USD, otherwise you wouldn't be able to sell for this price. We can't have two winners, there is only one winner and one loser. There are many people who hesitate to buy Bitcoin during the bull run because many people call it a scam coin, then they see how it's going up and up, they still hesitate to buy and finally, all these people who were hesitating before, experience severe FOMO and buy when price is at it's all-time high. That's how it works, I expect the same because people never learn on their mistakes. Btw to be fair, it's not bad when they buy it at ATH, if they can hold it for years, then it means nothing because bitcoin will have another ATH after the next halving and long-term these people won't be in loss.

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Quote from: Last Unicorn on March 05, 2024, 03:46:06 PM

When I see that the price is flying down steeply, I sell everything and let it fall down. When it stops, then I buy cheap and I have earned...
BTC is going down now, so let it go and buy when it stops. We can all make money from it and then we will again get it up together! Unfortunately, there are always a few "geniuses" who go against the flow and they are buying when they should be selling, and that destroying everyone's earnings...
I'm seriously upset because a couple of such " smart " people just ruined my chance to make up for a 15k loss... I would like to kick them somewhere!

You've simplified your strategy, buy when price dips and sale when it pumps to your expected target, it think it's a great strategy so stick with it and don't worry so much about the decisions of others, remember it's their money and they can choose when to sale and buy, just like you. We all have different perspectives on how we predict the outcome of Bitcoin price, sometimes you want to wait for price to dip lower before selling, and you'd be surprised that the opposite will happen and price will start to pump, so you can't blame anybody for making a decision that'll not benefit you, because they made that decision to favor them. The summary is that crypto price is volatile, so we can only predict and the market determines actual price.

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you're probably talking about recent dips that successfully causes liquidation amounting to million of dollars of people that shorted when they see some slightly sharp dipping and you're mad about it or am i wrong?
the thing with the trend is that if the trend is bullish it leans more towards recovery.

on the other hand if the trend is bearish of course it will lean more towards dipping further you can't expect basic principle to work with the ever changing dynamic of future trading if you ever into future or at least spot trading here.
things changes dynamically by the minutes and thats honestly to be expected.

I mean if you know that the market sentiment is greed and the price of bitcoin is falling you could always be sure that its gonna be recovering in no time.
so many people actually waited such dip and ready to bag some even got their money in exchange just in case.

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Quote from: batang_bitcoin on March 05, 2024, 03:53:41 PM

You have to understand that you're winning because someone is losing on the other end of this world. This is the market and we're all involved in this. And you can dictate what people will do, if they feel that they should buy at the peak, they'd do that. Before, there have been many that did that mistake and even til' now and on the next cycles, there will still be people that would do that. So, if you don't understand them, just mind your thing and keep repeating what you've been doing profitably.

You can’t control how every person would react to a certain price. And regardless of its price, as long as their intention is to buy and hold bitcoin, even if bitcoin price is very high, then that would not be a big problem after all. Just focus on your own investment and how would you make it profit from the current price. If you think it’s the best time to sell because you are already facing bigger profits, then sell. But if you think there’s a better price coming, then just wait and hold your coins.

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Haha, I don't get what type of rocket science the OP had discovered in which on the dips he's making money and others are not, I'm sure he's trying to mention categories of people but he hasn't provided any context to them, Anyway, everyone buys in the cheap which is sticking to the market from a decent time, those newbies make a mistake and its good for them to make mistakes and learn from it.

In such a volatile market there are always some sort of short-term opportunities and those who avail them are the pro ones. In the market, you need to behave like a bot, have no emotions while dealing with the positions, and make sure to take a good rest from the market because watching the charts all the time is not good at all.

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Quote from: Hamphser on March 06, 2024, 10:59:15 AM

Quote from: batang_bitcoin on March 05, 2024, 03:53:41 PM

You have to understand that you're winning because someone is losing on the other end of this world. This is the market and we're all involved in this. And you can dictate what people will do, if they feel that they should buy at the peak, they'd do that. Before, there have been many that did that mistake and even til' now and on the next cycles, there will still be people that would do that. So, if you don't understand them, just mind your thing and keep repeating what you've been doing profitably.

This is right and you should really be having those kind of realizations at least on how this market works. We do know that whenever we do make money or profits then there are those people who had lost
up their money on the other side and just be grateful that you did make out such good decision on which it did really result into profits. Dont mind about other people about on how they do make out such approach towards the market on where they would really be doing the opposite on what are the things that supposed to be approached. If it turns out that they are doing the opposite then just let them be.

Selling when prices get that correction or decrease and buying up when that green candle stood strong. Then this is really be a very basic human being approach and behavior.
They would really be doing such things because we do know that each one of us does have that kind of mindset and approach on things.

Yeah, that's it. If they're doing the opposite thing, we can't do anything with that but let them do what they think is right. What we can do is to control over all our things and decisions that we're doing on this market because no one is there to correct us from our doings and it's so much better to think of these matters as if we're always new to the market so that we keep on learning. But upon learning those things, we need to apply that when it's our turn to sell and buy. You can always give tips to the others but make sure that you apply that tip to yourself first.

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Quote from: Last Unicorn on March 05, 2024, 03:46:06 PM

When I see that the price is flying down steeply, I sell everything and let it fall down. When it stops, then I buy cheap and I have earned...
BTC is going down now, so let it go and buy when it stops. We can all make money from it and then we will again get it up together! Unfortunately, there are always a few "geniuses" who go against the flow and they are buying when they should be selling, and that destroying everyone's earnings...
I'm seriously upset because a couple of such " smart " people just ruined my chance to make up for a 15k loss... I would like to kick them somewhere!

If they are making money and you are not, if they predicted what the market could do correctly and you did not then I do not see why you are being sarcastic about them, since they took the right decision and you failed at this, never forget, the markets are never wrong, if you make a prediction and the prediction fails to happen, this did not happen because you did everything right and someone just interfered to make your prediction to not fulfill itself, you simply made a wrong call and that is it.

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The early you know that it must not go exactly the way you expect it as your not totally in full control no matter the strategy you employed better for you, because everyone work at according to how it may suit and favor them.

Trading required you take always calculate in second be it keeps your emotions very high, your earning is already a loss to another who may also take another step to regain.

This inconsistent move make it more interesting for me one don't need feel upset because you need make up mind to take any outcome and set realizable target as the trade is moving.

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Quote from: Last Unicorn on March 05, 2024, 03:46:06 PM

When I see that the price is flying down steeply, I sell everything and let it fall down. When it stops, then I buy cheap and I have earned...
BTC is going down now, so let it go and buy when it stops. We can all make money from it and then we will again get it up together! Unfortunately, there are always a few "geniuses" who go against the flow and they are buying when they should be selling, and that destroying everyone's earnings...

I think you are combining two things here. And I think you know how the market is going, Did you mean that when the price is going down, people should sell their other coins and buy more altcoins? Or did you mean that when the BTC price is going down, people should buy more? Because I can see the way you said, I think you combined it, and it doesn’t really make sense to me, although if that is what you mean that when the bitcoin price is going down, people should buy more bitcoin? I can say that it is a nice idea if someone sticks to that method since everyone is looking for a way to make more profit.

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I'm seriously upset because a couple of such " smart " people just ruined my chance to make up for a 15k loss... I would like to kick them somewhere!

You don’t have to do that, man. Before you enter the market, the risk is clearly stated, and that’s why they advise you to do what will favour them, so I think you should find a way to do what will favour them, and again, maybe you invested a huge amount of money that you cannot afford to lose. If not, you won’t panic. I think next time you will invest and stick to your target, so when the price reaches there, you will sell your investment.

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It looks like you know what you are doing so how come you lost your chance to make 15K during BTC price dip?
Sometimes you just don't know when exactly to buy back, it doesn't even dip into its oversold indicator but the price bounces again. To me, there isn't a real signal to see this coming. I also waited if it's going to stay at $60k for like a day but it's just a quick dip.

All I can think is that institutions are buying up BTC in the spot market and then shorting on the futures market to which, whichever the price goes, they make money.

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Quote from: Last Unicorn on March 05, 2024, 03:46:06 PM

When I see that the price is flying down steeply, I sell everything and let it fall down. When it stops, then I buy cheap and I have earned...
BTC is going down now, so let it go and buy when it stops. We can all make money from it and then we will again get it up together! Unfortunately, there are always a few "geniuses" who go against the flow and they are buying when they should be selling, and that destroying everyone's earnings...
I'm seriously upset because a couple of such " smart " people just ruined my chance to make up for a 15k loss... I would like to kick them somewhere!

Do you know one thing about the crypto market, it doesn't give a damn about your emotions, it doesn't care if you missed out or you are trying to buy at the market. You called it the smart people and that's the more reason why they call their money the smart money, they risk all they have to make the market liquid but it has to be on their own way, they make the market moves on their own terms and that's why they are call the whales because they control the market.

What you should do is to make sure to follow what other smart money people are doing, follow their footsteps and make money their own way. But make sure that you are using stop loss, nothing ever go against stop loss if you used it wisely. If you do that way, you will make a lot of money from this market and perhaps the money you are trying to make back will be easier but I will advice you not to chase loses.

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