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newbie
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This sounds great, at least in theory—I mean, “provably fair play.” However, personally I would like more details. How will it be proven or disproved that the game is fair?
     I don't mean the practice of match fixing, I mean the many practices of bookmakers. We know that bookmakers don't like profitable players at a distance. And in many cases, they can perform not entirely legal or fair manipulations: reduce odds, cut maximums, block accounts. Can all these activities be tracked or moved to the web3 realm? In any case, I associate progress in the field of betting with a further increase in the transparency of bookmaker organizations.

This is an example of people interested in “provably fair” games. They’ll find their answer easily in my system.

This hidden gem 💎 is still waiting for its future owner to shine. The 💎 will reveal itself free of charge. Of course, prior agreements should take place just in case (and in reality when) the casino executive decides to use it for his company, but that is not much to ask and really a minimum for anyone coming up with such an idea.

Up. Lots of out of subject spams here. Just don’t want my message to get lost.
hero member
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Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
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Ops I agree with you on the fact that no one took a look at what you presented and you should already know the reasons why,  because many times it has become clear and proven that none of such tools work at least not in casinos and the reason is that,  the casino has a system that is proactive in security checking of any possible attempts to bypass it inhouse edge system.

That is the reason why it seems to sound as if no one can have such a working system that works with you all the time and let's see if you can prove that further convincingly.
Every casino will know what the gamblers are doing, whether it is cheating by using prohibited tools or by other means, what is clear is that the casino will be used to finding every fraud and carrying out several preventative and warning efforts.
There will be consequences that gamblers must accept, such as accounts being frozen or being asked for KYC, but the worst is that the account is frozen, all balances cannot be withdrawn or used and the account can only be used again if the casino has opened it.
This is clearly problem that is quite complicated and detrimental to us as gamblers, so as much as possible we must be able to avoid various prohibited things which can clearly have negative impact on our own survival in the gambling industry.

In context like this, if it is all aimed at business and given for free then it will clearly be detrimental and will not provide the slightest profit, everything must be taken into consideration because this is business.
newbie
Activity: 85
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This sounds great, at least in theory—I mean, “provably fair play.” However, personally I would like more details. How will it be proven or disproved that the game is fair?
     I don't mean the practice of match fixing, I mean the many practices of bookmakers. We know that bookmakers don't like profitable players at a distance. And in many cases, they can perform not entirely legal or fair manipulations: reduce odds, cut maximums, block accounts. Can all these activities be tracked or moved to the web3 realm? In any case, I associate progress in the field of betting with a further increase in the transparency of bookmaker organizations.

This is an example of people interested in “provably fair” games. They’ll find their answer easily in my system.

This hidden gem 💎 is still waiting for its future owner to shine. The 💎 will reveal itself free of charge. Of course, prior agreements should take place just in case (and in reality when) the casino executive decides to use it for his company, but that is not much to ask and really a minimum for anyone coming up with such an idea.
legendary
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This sounds great, at least in theory—I mean, “provably fair play.” However, personally I would like more details. How will it be proven or disproved that the game is fair?
     I don't mean the practice of match fixing, I mean the many practices of bookmakers. We know that bookmakers don't like profitable players at a distance. And in many cases, they can perform not entirely legal or fair manipulations: reduce odds, cut maximums, block accounts. Can all these activities be tracked or moved to the web3 realm? In any case, I associate progress in the field of betting with a further increase in the transparency of bookmaker organizations.
sr. member
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provably fair games are okay as it is. They don't need to be improved upon or whatever. 
Everything can be improved, no matter how good it may seem now. Maybe you may not see it but if someone else sees it and tries to make it better, then I don't see anything wrong with that. People are constantly trying to improve a lot of things that are "okay as it is" and they should be encouraged to do so. If their innovations are better than the previous ones, then they should be adopted, but if it's not, they should be discarded.
I'll disagree on that, there are things that are what many would call the peak of innovation already you know something like if it ain't broke don't fix it kind of thing, that's definitely what the current provably fair system is, it's in a good working order and improving it in my opinion is just going to lead to make it more complicated for new users to understand, there's already a ton of stuff that's been reinvented already, I don't believe that a lot of them ever became successful at replacing the technology that they've been created from, sure innovation is good but it should be something new and not something that's recreated or reinvented as I said earlier.
newbie
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That is the reason why it seems to sound as if no one can have such a working system that works with you all the time and let's see if you can prove that further convincingly.

Don't mind him mate, everyone has the freedom of saying whatever thing they like for the reasons best known to them, it's just as if someone should come here now to tell us that he has a solution to how we cannot miss a gambling bet any longer again by giving a trick, of it had been working then he would have been the first person to benefits from it and also that he wouldn't have wanted to give it out.

These 2 accounts must be flagged for shitposting. Completely out of subject.
hero member
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That is the reason why it seems to sound as if no one can have such a working system that works with you all the time and let's see if you can prove that further convincingly.

Don't mind him mate, everyone has the freedom of saying whatever thing they like for the reasons best known to them, it's just as if someone should come here now to tell us that he has a solution to how we cannot miss a gambling bet any longer again by giving a trick, of it had been working then he would have been the first person to benefits from it and also that he wouldn't have wanted to give it out.
hero member
Activity: 1022
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Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
I did. No answer whatsoever. Only one executive here on forum contacted me, a very respected person, and a member of the crypto gambling foundation. After some emails, it looked clear he wanted me to share my system without expecting anything in return. I made a very reasonable offer and he stopped responding (as I said, prevealing my system is free of charge. They’re only charged if they decide to implement it!!). Big upset.

For casinos, it’s almost over. But it’s a good idea to research people who develop casinos.
Casino owner's plays a vital rule in the overall reality of the casinos and how it functions on the long run, this is very much important because when you talk about the system that makes up for the casino, it will be hard to deviate from the actual fact and figure of what really transpired behind the scenes, and this is very important to note at all time, when it comes to gambling operation.

So for that, we may have to take the time to reflect on the basic content of the team at least we should know their gambling background and how their meet up with the market demands and also carry themselves along the way.


Yeah I think that’s the truth. But to be honest with you, I can’t hide the fact that I’m angry about the outcome. I mean I am REALLY CERTAIN that this system works WAY MUCH BETTER than the current system. NO ONE wants to even take a FREE look at it. And those who took a little interest want a free look at my system, that’s fine with me, but without any further engagement in case they decide to use my system for their casino…. I mean come on. In any case, casino executives, your messages are always welcome. That’s all I can say for the time being.

That being said, I wish you all the best of luck, in business and personal life.
Ops I agree with you on the fact that no one took a look at what you presented and you should already know the reasons why,  because many times it has become clear and proven that none of such tools work at least not in casinos and the reason is that,  the casino has a system that is proactive in security checking of any possible attempts to bypass it inhouse edge system.

That is the reason why it seems to sound as if no one can have such a working system that works with you all the time and let's see if you can prove that further convincingly.
newbie
Activity: 85
Merit: 0
I did. No answer whatsoever. Only one executive here on forum contacted me, a very respected person, and a member of the crypto gambling foundation. After some emails, it looked clear he wanted me to share my system without expecting anything in return. I made a very reasonable offer and he stopped responding (as I said, prevealing my system is free of charge. They’re only charged if they decide to implement it!!). Big upset.

For casinos, it’s almost over. But it’s a good idea to research people who develop casinos.
Casino owner's plays a vital rule in the overall reality of the casinos and how it functions on the long run, this is very much important because when you talk about the system that makes up for the casino, it will be hard to deviate from the actual fact and figure of what really transpired behind the scenes, and this is very important to note at all time, when it comes to gambling operation.

So for that, we may have to take the time to reflect on the basic content of the team at least we should know their gambling background and how their meet up with the market demands and also carry themselves along the way.


Yeah I think that’s the truth. But to be honest with you, I can’t hide the fact that I’m angry about the outcome. I mean I am REALLY CERTAIN that this system works WAY MUCH BETTER than the current system. NO ONE wants to even take a FREE look at it. And those who took a little interest want a free look at my system, that’s fine with me, but without any further engagement in case they decide to use my system for their casino…. I mean come on. In any case, casino executives, your messages are always welcome. That’s all I can say for the time being.

That being said, I wish you all the best of luck, in business and personal life.
hero member
Activity: 1022
Merit: 667
Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
I did. No answer whatsoever. Only one executive here on forum contacted me, a very respected person, and a member of the crypto gambling foundation. After some emails, it looked clear he wanted me to share my system without expecting anything in return. I made a very reasonable offer and he stopped responding (as I said, prevealing my system is free of charge. They’re only charged if they decide to implement it!!). Big upset.

For casinos, it’s almost over. But it’s a good idea to research people who develop casinos.
Casino owner's plays a vital rule in the overall reality of the casinos and how it functions on the long run, this is very much important because when you talk about the system that makes up for the casino, it will be hard to deviate from the actual fact and figure of what really transpired behind the scenes, and this is very important to note at all time, when it comes to gambling operation.

So for that, we may have to take the time to reflect on the basic content of the team at least we should know their gambling background and how their meet up with the market demands and also carry themselves along the way.
newbie
Activity: 85
Merit: 0
provably fair games are okay as it is. They don't need to be improved upon or whatever. 

Everything can be improved, no matter how good it may seem now. Maybe you may not see it but if someone else sees it and tries to make it better, then I don't see anything wrong with that. People are constantly trying to improve a lot of things that are "okay as it is" and they should be encouraged to do so. If their innovations are better than the previous ones, then they should be adopted, but if it's not, they should be discarded.

Still open for suggestions on whom I might contact.

Why not contact the casinos directly through email?
I don't know who to contact for stuff like this, but I feel the best way to contact them is through email. I'm not saying it guarantees you a positive outcome but it's worth the shot.
Also, research people trying to develop a casino and reach out to them.

If you truly believe you have something great to offer and if you believe it's something they'll like to have don't stop. Know that you'll most definitely get some rejections, but that should teach you and you should learn from it.

I did. No answer whatsoever. Only one executive here on forum contacted me, a very respected person, and a member of the crypto gambling foundation. After some emails, it looked clear he wanted me to share my system without expecting anything in return. I made a very reasonable offer and he stopped responding (as I said, revealing my system is free of charge. They’re only charged if they decide to implement it!!). Big upset.

For casinos, it’s almost over. But it’s a good idea to research people who develop casinos.
sr. member
Activity: 476
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provably fair games are okay as it is. They don't need to be improved upon or whatever. 

Everything can be improved, no matter how good it may seem now. Maybe you may not see it but if someone else sees it and tries to make it better, then I don't see anything wrong with that. People are constantly trying to improve a lot of things that are "okay as it is" and they should be encouraged to do so. If their innovations are better than the previous ones, then they should be adopted, but if it's not, they should be discarded.

Still open for suggestions on whom I might contact.

Why not contact the casinos directly through email?
I don't know who to contact for stuff like this, but I feel the best way to contact them is through email. I'm not saying it guarantees you a positive outcome but it's worth the shot.
Also, research people trying to develop a casino and reach out to them.

If you truly believe you have something great to offer and if you believe it's something they'll like to have don't stop. Know that you'll most definitely get some rejections, but that should teach you and you should learn from it.
hero member
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Nothing lasts forever
Crypto gambling website representatives: please DM so that I can send you my CV. I am only responding to respected crypto gambling representatives here. I have many remarkable academic accomplishments, and looking to make a deal in exchange for my provably fair system.

Depending on the size and the reputation of your casino, I won’t ask for escrow and you’ll get to see my system before any payment is made. This is what I have to offer:
I have a unique approach to implementing provably fair games. Unlike current methods, my approach significantly simplifies the implementation process. This results in a game system that requires minimal cryptography understanding from players, almost no coding skills, and only a brief time to comprehend and verify game outcomes. This approach can be applied to most provably fair games at this stage.

Presently, average crypto users interested in playing provably fair games are required to navigate through approximately four pages of information https://stake.com/provably-fair/overview, possess a deep understanding of coding, and dedicate substantial effort to comprehending and validating the fairness of results. My proposed approach addresses these challenges and offers, as well, the following advantages:

- Equally robust provably fair gameplay, ensuring the impossibility of cheating and enabling verification, with no trust required.
-The explanations provided to players are presented in a half-page format, yet deliver the same value as the current four-page requirement.

Other people who have useful comments might do so, but please refrain from trying to know how I get to implement the provably fair games this way because I am not saying anything nor giving any hints.
Stories about people who passed through similar situations as mine are appreciated. Thank you!

Edit 26/08/23: It is so hard to get to know legitimate emails where I can send my CV and a letter. If you know any, please post them below.

Edited on 25/10/2023: I am only looking to make a deal for my system. I have previously stated that prior I should be hired as an advisor but I now think that’s irrelevant for the service I can offer.

Why not create a website and implement your system there.
Create a portfolio and then approach gambling sites and show them your prototype.
This way you will get more credibility and you might crack a deal.
hero member
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Am not an IT developer or anything though I know some basic stuff due to which I won't comment on the technical stuff, but I am just curious as to whether you received any compelling offers regarding your system op?

Asking because it's been a couple of months since you created this particular thread and it seems like you haven't really achieved much success so far.
newbie
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Crypto gambling website representatives: please DM so that I can send you my CV. I am only responding to respected crypto gambling representatives here. I have many remarkable academic accomplishments, and looking to make a deal in exchange for my provably fair system.

Depending on the size and the reputation of your casino, I won’t ask for escrow and you’ll get to see my system before any payment is made. This is what I have to offer:
I have a unique approach to implementing provably fair games. Unlike current methods, my approach significantly simplifies the implementation process. This results in a game system that requires minimal cryptography understanding from players, almost no coding skills, and only a brief time to comprehend and verify game outcomes. This approach can be applied to most provably fair games at this stage.

Presently, average crypto users interested in playing provably fair games are required to navigate through approximately four pages of information https://stake.com/provably-fair/overview, possess a deep understanding of coding, and dedicate substantial effort to comprehending and validating the fairness of results. My proposed approach addresses these challenges and offers, as well, the following advantages:

- Equally robust provably fair gameplay, ensuring the impossibility of cheating and enabling verification, with no trust required.
-The explanations provided to players are presented in a half-page format, yet deliver the same value as the current four-page requirement.

Other people who have useful comments might do so, but please refrain from trying to know how I get to implement the provably fair games this way because I am not saying anything nor giving any hints.
Stories about people who passed through similar situations as mine are appreciated. Thank you!

Edit 26/08/23: It is so hard to get to know legitimate emails where I can send my CV and a letter. If you know any, please post them below.

Edited on 25/10/2023: I am only looking to make a deal for my system. I have previously stated that prior I should be hired as an advisor but I now think that’s irrelevant for the service I can offer.

What makes you think  you have solved the problem ?
You need to broaden your horizons and by this setting boundaries to making  sure every steps is taken into input will help you achieve a great deal .

Looking at your set up,i would preferably say you have come along way but it didn't go down to eliminating or solving the complexity in fair games..
We all know gambling is a game of tactics,IQ and lots more but you need to breakdown the parts you have tremendously tackled.

My system eliminates most of the complexity linked to verifying provably fair games. What does that mean? It means you don’t have to be a developer nor you have to learn coding, nor install any coding software to verify the outcomes (nor any other software or plugin). The steps are basic and simple. Now of course, since we’re talking about verifying outcomes, a bit of effort is needed, but is nothing compared to the effort needed for the current system.


sr. member
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Crypto gambling website representatives: please DM so that I can send you my CV. I am only responding to respected crypto gambling representatives here. I have many remarkable academic accomplishments, and looking to make a deal in exchange for my provably fair system.

Depending on the size and the reputation of your casino, I won’t ask for escrow and you’ll get to see my system before any payment is made. This is what I have to offer:
I have a unique approach to implementing provably fair games. Unlike current methods, my approach significantly simplifies the implementation process. This results in a game system that requires minimal cryptography understanding from players, almost no coding skills, and only a brief time to comprehend and verify game outcomes. This approach can be applied to most provably fair games at this stage.

Presently, average crypto users interested in playing provably fair games are required to navigate through approximately four pages of information https://stake.com/provably-fair/overview, possess a deep understanding of coding, and dedicate substantial effort to comprehending and validating the fairness of results. My proposed approach addresses these challenges and offers, as well, the following advantages:

- Equally robust provably fair gameplay, ensuring the impossibility of cheating and enabling verification, with no trust required.
-The explanations provided to players are presented in a half-page format, yet deliver the same value as the current four-page requirement.

Other people who have useful comments might do so, but please refrain from trying to know how I get to implement the provably fair games this way because I am not saying anything nor giving any hints.
Stories about people who passed through similar situations as mine are appreciated. Thank you!

Edit 26/08/23: It is so hard to get to know legitimate emails where I can send my CV and a letter. If you know any, please post them below.

Edited on 25/10/2023: I am only looking to make a deal for my system. I have previously stated that prior I should be hired as an advisor but I now think that’s irrelevant for the service I can offer.

What makes you think  you have solved the problem ?
You need to broaden your horizons and by this setting boundaries to making  sure every steps is taken into input will help you achieve a great deal .

Looking at your set up,i would preferably say you have come along way but it didn't go down to eliminating or solving the complexity in fair games..
We all know gambling is a game of tactics,IQ and lots more but you need to breakdown the parts you have tremendously tackled.
legendary
Activity: 2702
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Still open for suggestions on whom I might contact.
I’m asking simply out of curiosity and so that other forum users would think about the fact that alternative algorithms for checking provable honesty could indeed be invented. 
This is a rather important direction for the development of the entire gambling industry in general, it seems to me.  So, OP, please respond, has anything changed in your search for those casino executives who would agree to use this innovative invention of yours.  Or is it still just polite or even not polite refusals to cooperate? 

Actually, since this looks like some kind of mathematical algorithm, maybe it’s still worth starting to discuss it in the scientific community of mathematicians, maybe even in some kind of disguised, hidden form (so that no one steals the invention)?

Unfortunately, there might be no future (for me) in regards to this. Until someone from within the casino industry figures it out.

It’s a good idea though to continue talking about it, maybe outside of a strict gambling enterprise environment, like you said.
This is what probably makes sense.  If such conversations continue, then more people will, in principle, learn, not only that there are honesty verification algorithms, which even if they had heard about before, they simply forgot and did not attach importance to this information.  And the idea will also spread that there may be several such algorithms, and not just one, as many players think.  So it seems to me that this topic can be continued without being particularly distracted by it. 
But when it is in the first links of the Gembling section, sometimes forum users will still go to this topic.  And this will intensify the discussion, I think.
newbie
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Still open for suggestions on whom I might contact.
I’m asking simply out of curiosity and so that other forum users would think about the fact that alternative algorithms for checking provable honesty could indeed be invented. 
This is a rather important direction for the development of the entire gambling industry in general, it seems to me.  So, OP, please respond, has anything changed in your search for those casino executives who would agree to use this innovative invention of yours.  Or is it still just polite or even not polite refusals to cooperate? 

Actually, since this looks like some kind of mathematical algorithm, maybe it’s still worth starting to discuss it in the scientific community of mathematicians, maybe even in some kind of disguised, hidden form (so that no one steals the invention)?

Unfortunately, there might be no future (for me) in regards to this. Until someone from within the casino industry figures it out.

It’s a good idea though to continue talking about it, maybe outside of a strict gambling enterprise environment, like you said.
legendary
Activity: 2702
Merit: 1465
Still open for suggestions on whom I might contact.
I’m asking simply out of curiosity and so that other forum users would think about the fact that alternative algorithms for checking provable honesty could indeed be invented. 
This is a rather important direction for the development of the entire gambling industry in general, it seems to me.  So, OP, please respond, has anything changed in your search for those casino executives who would agree to use this innovative invention of yours.  Or is it still just polite or even not polite refusals to cooperate? 

Actually, since this looks like some kind of mathematical algorithm, maybe it’s still worth starting to discuss it in the scientific community of mathematicians, maybe even in some kind of disguised, hidden form (so that no one steals the invention)?
newbie
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