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Topic: I have solved the problem of complexity in provably fair games - page 7. (Read 2251 times)

legendary
Activity: 2702
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provably fair games are okay as it is. They don't need to be improved upon or whatever. They basically speak for themselves even lol. While I think your idea is great and could see some use in the future once gambling becomes larger, I don't think the problem of "cheating" or whatever is a large-scale problem really. After all it's already randomized as it could get. Plus you could basically have it verify its validity. I think it all boils down on "fixing what doesn't need to be fixed". Provably fair is great as it is so I don't think this improvement is needed. Although with your skills, you're definitely going to come up with an awesome idea with real-life application that people will ponder upon for years to come. Keep at it brother.
If OP had an epiphany and came up with some unique method for checking provable honesty, then it should first be published in academic and scientific publications that have a mathematical or unitary cryptographic direction.  And at the same time, of course, retaining th authorship and rights to this discovery.  These actions, in the case of a truly ingenious nature of the invention of the algorithm, should be discussed and confirmed in the scientific community of specialists.  Further development of the idea is only possible if the scientific community truly confirms its uniqueness and accuracy.  And also the possibility of correct use in casino practice, as an algorithm for confirming provable honesty.  
I consider all other actions of OP to promote his invention in such a primitive way to be somehow naive and too simple.  

Therefore, I think no self-respecting casino would be interested in an invention that is advertised by OP in this way.
sr. member
Activity: 1414
Merit: 270
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I am not asking anybody to trust me. They don’t have to pay anything until they implement it. Something like this could be discussed.

But when you get no answer at all, for someone with my academic background, you start wondering that they might not even have read my application.

My thoughts on your question:
1. All crypto-casinos belong to real legal entities/companies that have official licenses to engage in the gambling business. Most of them are licensed by the Curaçao Gaming Control Board. For example, BetFury - owner Universe B Games B.V., Duelbits - owner Liquid Gaming N.V., Stakes - owner Medium Rare N.V. All crypto casinos have a support email.
2. Persons representing the interests of crypto casinos on the Internet (BTT and social networks) are actually SMM. Persons who present/advertise the project and do not make decisions. Every company has corporate ethics and requirements for communication with clients. Therefore, it is unlikely that anyone will write to you first. Don't forget about the scam - “Admins will never DM first!”
With that said, I believe that you should contact the support team of any of the crypto casinos and offer your services, clearly stating the concept of your offer with your contact details.
P.S. I see that you had a positive experience with Duelbits. Why don't you want to offer them your services?
newbie
Activity: 114
Merit: 0
I might never again get such a good idea or discovery.

I am reiterating my offer. Casinos please contact me so that I can reveal this amazing idea for you!

It's not that no one cares; it's just that no one has a reason to trust you. Put yourself in our shoes: would you trust some random guy on the internet to reinvent the wheel?
Unless you can somehow demonstrate and prove your idea, no casino will bother contacting you about it.


I am not asking anybody to trust me. They don’t have to pay anything until they implement it. Something like this could be discussed.

But when you get no answer at all, for someone with my academic background, you start wondering that they might not even have read my application.
hero member
Activity: 1456
Merit: 940
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I might never again get such a good idea or discovery.

I am reiterating my offer. Casinos please contact me so that I can reveal this amazing idea for you!

It's not that no one cares; it's just that no one has a reason to trust you. Put yourself in our shoes: would you trust some random guy on the internet to reinvent the wheel?
Unless you can somehow demonstrate and prove your idea, no casino will bother contacting you about it.
newbie
Activity: 114
Merit: 0
I might never again get such a good idea or discovery.

I am reiterating my offer. Casinos please contact me so that I can reveal this amazing idea for you!
legendary
Activity: 2674
Merit: 1226
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Hi OP, I didn't read through pages other tha OP, in the spirit of your concern that 4 pages is too long, rather to read half a page of explanation.

My suggestion is this. Instead, why not share your short explanation of current crypto provably fair on OP as a community service?

As in. If you're an expert then you can easily explain provably fair to a newbie using stake.

A good academic can do this AND this proves you really know how to simplify.

If it's good, people merit, gamblers praise it, then you get attention from the reps that you want.

Now, you're trying to attract them by saying who you are but got no proof you actually know something Smiley
newbie
Activity: 114
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I hope the right person hasn’t read this yet. You can’t ignore such an offer…
newbie
Activity: 114
Merit: 0
I'm not very into coding and I understand the dilemma of wanting to put your system to good use but without revealing it in advance to prevent it from being "stolen".
Is there the technical possibility that you could use it to set up a third-party independent provably fair verification service?
There is no need to audit it, it’s adding more risk for not that much reward. Let’s say it is not really what I’m saying, the casino hiring me will lose nothing at all, including my advisor payroll, since I said I am willing to sign a contract to bet all of my payroll on baccarat with my system + some of my own money, and let their developers cheat me and congratulations to them.

Of course, I know that my system works and is provably fair. It is a bit frustrating though at this point that nobody seems to care. Either they’re not taking me seriously or not even reading my application.
legendary
Activity: 3402
Merit: 1227
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I'm not very into coding and I understand the dilemma of wanting to put your system to good use but without revealing it in advance to prevent it from being "stolen".
Is there the technical possibility that you could use it to set up a third-party independent provably fair verification service?
legendary
Activity: 1946
Merit: 1100
Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
The primary motivation behind my application for this role stems from my unique approach to implementing provably fair games. Unlike current methods, my approach significantly simplifies the implementation process. This results in a game system that requires minimal cryptography understanding from players, almost no coding skills, and only a brief time to comprehend and verify game outcomes. This approach can be applied to most provably fair games at this stage.

If a casino is working with a system they built, which is trusted enough to operate and is not questioned by its user base, they will likely keep the system that they have. While your initiative is great, it's unrealistic to think that current casinos will opt for the service.

I think that your best route is to work with a developer to build a casino software, using your skills for the provably fair system. You might be a bit more successful in the long term this way.


They’re also trusting the slots right… It has been though undeniably proven that A TON of cheating happens on slots, including cheating streamers who play quite a lot and have statistical proof. You just don’t know if they’re trusting the system or being stupid. Sometimes people do stupid things but then stop doing it.

I offer a great product. I believe that if my application is taken seriously I should get some feeback, which I haven’t.

On the other hand, I explain above why opening my own casino is not good idea. It’s like revealing my system for free while taking huge risks. An already established casino will benefit much more by going first on this.

There is not much choice in slot providers. You either have games that people love, that are well designed, well functioning, etc. With less liability...or you try yourself and add a large amount of risks.

Your product might be great, I don't doubt it. Casinos don't want a great product though, they want profit. Making things fairer than what is making them money? I doubt any casino will opt for it.

That's why I suggest making your own casino. By doing so, yes, there are risks...but with the right amount of preparation and with the right team, you might find that you can thrive on your superior product, which is good for your customers.
Slot providers are often in a bind between delivering quality and ensuring profitability. Casinos are profit-driven entities, of course, they don't care about fairness or quality as much as their bottom line. Though, If every casino thought this way, wouldn't they all have the same product? Think about it. How boring. Your idea that casinos won't opt for fairness is, to put it mildly, naive. Think back to land-based casinos that faced immense criticism and regulations. They adapted, and they thrived. Why? Because the gambling evolves. That's a fact

The idea of creating one's own casino is not novel. The gamble (pun unintended) here is not in the creation but in the sustained operation. You do understand the intricacies of licenses, jurisdictions, and compliance, right? However, with "the right team"? Damn, if only it were so simple. The right team is just one cog in the vast machinery of casino operation. But, I digress. If the product is superior, why pitch to casinos at all? Directly target the consumers. Let them decide
legendary
Activity: 1666
Merit: 1037
Your product might be great, I don't doubt it. Casinos don't want a great product though, they want profit. Making things fairer than what is making them money? I doubt any casino will opt for it.

That's why I suggest making your own casino. By doing so, yes, there are risks...but with the right amount of preparation and with the right team, you might find that you can thrive on your superior product, which is good for your customers.

Some businesses are honest and don’t cheat. And reputation is also more important for a long lasting business for long term profits as well.
I think I’ll manage to somehow benefit a business from this without creating my own casino, which I don’t think is a good idea. If I want to make one though, I’ll do it quietly.

The crypto casinos haven’t replied, I am starting to contact non crypto casinos based outside Curaçao.

Most casinos are not honest, and do cheat, and this doesn't effect their reputation because it is either selective, or the cheating is not provable, or both. I respect your persistence and wish you the best of luck despite my opinion Smiley
newbie
Activity: 114
Merit: 0
Your product might be great, I don't doubt it. Casinos don't want a great product though, they want profit. Making things fairer than what is making them money? I doubt any casino will opt for it.

That's why I suggest making your own casino. By doing so, yes, there are risks...but with the right amount of preparation and with the right team, you might find that you can thrive on your superior product, which is good for your customers.

Some businesses are honest and don’t cheat. And reputation is also more important for a long lasting business for long term profits as well.
I think I’ll manage to somehow benefit a business from this without creating my own casino, which I don’t think is a good idea. If I want to make one though, I’ll do it quietly.

The crypto casinos haven’t replied, I am starting to contact non crypto casinos based outside Curaçao.
legendary
Activity: 1666
Merit: 1037
The primary motivation behind my application for this role stems from my unique approach to implementing provably fair games. Unlike current methods, my approach significantly simplifies the implementation process. This results in a game system that requires minimal cryptography understanding from players, almost no coding skills, and only a brief time to comprehend and verify game outcomes. This approach can be applied to most provably fair games at this stage.

If a casino is working with a system they built, which is trusted enough to operate and is not questioned by its user base, they will likely keep the system that they have. While your initiative is great, it's unrealistic to think that current casinos will opt for the service.

I think that your best route is to work with a developer to build a casino software, using your skills for the provably fair system. You might be a bit more successful in the long term this way.


They’re also trusting the slots right… It has been though undeniably proven that A TON of cheating happens on slots, including cheating streamers who play quite a lot and have statistical proof. You just don’t know if they’re trusting the system or being stupid. Sometimes people do stupid things but then stop doing it.

I offer a great product. I believe that if my application is taken seriously I should get some feeback, which I haven’t.

On the other hand, I explain above why opening my own casino is not good idea. It’s like revealing my system for free while taking huge risks. An already established casino will benefit much more by going first on this.

There is not much choice in slot providers. You either have games that people love, that are well designed, well functioning, etc. With less liability...or you try yourself and add a large amount of risks.

Your product might be great, I don't doubt it. Casinos don't want a great product though, they want profit. Making things fairer than what is making them money? I doubt any casino will opt for it.

That's why I suggest making your own casino. By doing so, yes, there are risks...but with the right amount of preparation and with the right team, you might find that you can thrive on your superior product, which is good for your customers.
newbie
Activity: 114
Merit: 0
No crypto casino owner is going to hire you.
Why don't you create your own crypto casino, where you could impose your "revolutionary" probably fair verification system(or whatever you call it)?
I'm sure that you will stand out of the competition, by providing easier to understand(and to verify) explanation of the "probably fair" concept.
Creating a crypto casino isn't that expensive. Just get a domain and hosting, buy a casino template and install the games(by getting a gambling game provider). You will have to spend money on advertising as well.


You’re not encouraging:(

The competition will quickly implement the system, and the advantage of my gambling website, if I can create any, will rapidly fade away, while it’s still in the very beginning. While as for a big casino, a substantial advantage can be gained by implementing it first, and they’ll know who to market it for online much better than I do. The system can also be applied to poker, the ring game.
legendary
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Merit: 1039
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Regarding your product though, it's all about how you pitch it to casinos. Why not just start to look at their official twitter account and reach for them though? At least in that case, you can control and not just wait for them to read your post here, just saying.
Since he has written about it in this forum thread, I would think contacting the casino reps that are on this forum, at least send a DM to them to submit on their platform, not sure about contacting him via twitter, since he has written nothing in this thread about the product and his thoughts so it's best to DM and give this thread to the casino teams that are active on this forum, at least the newly developing casinos, because for large casinos it will be difficult

If I'm not mistaken, there are lots of new casinos coming to this forum, so try starting from a small casino first and starting from there, it will be easier to hone your skills, at least it will help build the casino from small until it can become big, because if you offer it to a casino that is already big, of course it would be impossible to accept this kind of offer.
hero member
Activity: 3150
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No crypto casino owner is going to hire you.
Why don't you create your own crypto casino, where you could impose your "revolutionary" probably fair verification system(or whatever you call it)?
I'm sure that you will stand out of the competition, by providing easier to understand(and to verify) explanation of the "probably fair" concept.
Creating a crypto casino isn't that expensive. Just get a domain and hosting, buy a casino template and install the games(by getting a gambling game provider). You will have to spend money on advertising as well.
hero member
Activity: 2870
Merit: 594
The primary motivation behind my application for this role stems from my unique approach to implementing provably fair games. Unlike current methods, my approach significantly simplifies the implementation process. This results in a game system that requires minimal cryptography understanding from players, almost no coding skills, and only a brief time to comprehend and verify game outcomes. This approach can be applied to most provably fair games at this stage.

If a casino is working with a system they built, which is trusted enough to operate and is not questioned by its user base, they will likely keep the system that they have. While your initiative is great, it's unrealistic to think that current casinos will opt for the service.

I think that your best route is to work with a developer to build a casino software, using your skills for the provably fair system. You might be a bit more successful in the long term this way.


They’re also trusting the slots right… It has been though undeniably proven that A TON of cheating happens on slots, including cheating streamers who play quite a lot and have statistical proof. You just don’t know if they’re trusting the system or being stupid. Sometimes people do stupid things but then stop doing it.

I offer a great product. I believe that if my application is taken seriously I should get some feeback, which I haven’t.

On the other hand, I explain above why opening my own casino is not good idea. It’s like revealing my system for free while taking huge risks. An already established casino will benefit much more by going first on this.
I do agree, slots is one of the worst if not the worst games that we should play. Me too, fall for this trick, so I just played slots for fun and not put a lot of money on it because the odds for me to win are extremely slim.

Regarding your product though, it's all about how you pitch it to casinos. Why not just start to look at their official twitter account and reach for them though? At least in that case, you can control and not just wait for them to read your post here, just saying.
newbie
Activity: 114
Merit: 0
The primary motivation behind my application for this role stems from my unique approach to implementing provably fair games. Unlike current methods, my approach significantly simplifies the implementation process. This results in a game system that requires minimal cryptography understanding from players, almost no coding skills, and only a brief time to comprehend and verify game outcomes. This approach can be applied to most provably fair games at this stage.

If a casino is working with a system they built, which is trusted enough to operate and is not questioned by its user base, they will likely keep the system that they have. While your initiative is great, it's unrealistic to think that current casinos will opt for the service.

I think that your best route is to work with a developer to build a casino software, using your skills for the provably fair system. You might be a bit more successful in the long term this way.


They’re also trusting the slots right… It has been though undeniably proven that A TON of cheating happens on slots, including cheating streamers who play quite a lot and have statistical proof. You just don’t know if they’re trusting the system or being stupid. Sometimes people do stupid things but then stop doing it.

I offer a great product. I believe that if my application is taken seriously I should get some feeback, which I haven’t.

On the other hand, I explain above why opening my own casino is not good idea. It’s like revealing my system for free while taking huge risks. An already established casino will benefit much more by going first on this.
legendary
Activity: 1666
Merit: 1037
The primary motivation behind my application for this role stems from my unique approach to implementing provably fair games. Unlike current methods, my approach significantly simplifies the implementation process. This results in a game system that requires minimal cryptography understanding from players, almost no coding skills, and only a brief time to comprehend and verify game outcomes. This approach can be applied to most provably fair games at this stage.

If a casino is working with a system they built, which is trusted enough to operate and is not questioned by its user base, they will likely keep the system that they have. While your initiative is great, it's unrealistic to think that current casinos will opt for the service.

I think that your best route is to work with a developer to build a casino software, using your skills for the provably fair system. You might be a bit more successful in the long term this way.
newbie
Activity: 114
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OK. Good luck with your endeavors, I will be happy to audit the system when/if a casino implements it.
Ok thank you anyway for your participation in this thread I appreciate it.
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