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legendary
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August 22, 2023, 03:45:32 PM
#68
I don't know where some gamblers are getting their confidence from, do you know that online casinos can keep rejecting your ID after you made some high amount of money? Some people cares about winning first before passing KYC, it's cool you believe that you won't always win but the luck comes when we least expected.

Imagine winning and you find it hard to pass KYC, trapping your money on the casino for like ever.

It's not always the casinos fault, I know some are dubious but the thing is KYC verification is something you should first deal with before making your first deposit.

Online casinos can be frustrating at times, some casino won't accept your submitted document even when you haven't make any deposit on the platform yet, so always confirm your identity first.

Submit your identity and wait for approval, do not be in haste to make deposit first, because the identity you submitted without a green approval from the team can still be rejected, take your time to get the passed approval first before proceeding with gambling.

I don't honestly know why someone would even bet on a site that requires kyc and they know they can't pass it.  As soon as you send your money onto the site it's trapped forever.  The worst part actually is if you win.  Be easy if you lose to just go away but imagine winning huge and then not being able to pull the money off?  That would be a nightmare.
hero member
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August 22, 2023, 03:40:31 PM
#67
Exactly!! The KYCs aren't just always getting fucked up cus anyone's got a huge winnings or deposits; it's usually so disheartening to bear the whole frustration, as a result of NOT providing these identifiable certs on time.
I don't know if the system is usually programed to freeze up funds that bypassed the KYCs or maybe it's usually an emergency lockup until proper verifications are made? ... just my thoughts.
Well, since this processes aren't even verified in a hurry - maybe they prioritize looking up the source to which the funds are released from and so on - then it's safe to say that most casinos don't really try to pull off a stunt with Thier customer's money.

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legendary
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August 22, 2023, 03:40:09 PM
#66
If you trust the casino and you're a big bettor and you think that you could win a big amount of money and you don't want issues when you want to withdraw huge money then go ahead if there's an option to verify your account, once you sign up in a licensed casino you should expect KYC, you should expect unexpected winning, but this does not mean that you will not encounter issues with your account, even if you did a KYC they can still ask you for additional documents.

There's no such thing as safe marking in a casino, if there's an issue in your account and their security triggers an alarm you still have to prove your innocence or ask you to do another verification.
If you're going to face all of this it's better to face this issue where you will have a fair chance and that is in a reputable casino.
At some point you’re right. Casinos will never stop asking for another KYC verification unless they become satisfied with your identification details. Most especially if you have big unexpected wins, then always expect that the casino will keep an eye on you. Although I could say that asking for KYC is a must protocol for casinos these days, but sometimes we can’t help thinking that casinos would never want us winning, otherwise we will be requested again and again to submit another identification document and it’s certainly become a hassle for us.
legendary
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August 22, 2023, 03:34:57 PM
#65
I don't know where some gamblers are getting their confidence from, do you know that online casinos can keep rejecting your ID after you made some high amount of money? Some people cares about winning first before passing KYC, it's cool you believe that you won't always win but the luck comes when we least expected.

Imagine winning and you find it hard to pass KYC, trapping your money on the casino for like ever.

It's not always the casinos fault, I know some are dubious but the thing is KYC verification is something you should first deal with before making your first deposit.

Online casinos can be frustrating at times, some casino won't accept your submitted document even when you haven't make any deposit on the platform yet, so always confirm your identity first.

Submit your identity and wait for approval, do not be in haste to make deposit first, because the identity you submitted without a green approval from the team can still be rejected, take your time to get the passed approval first before proceeding with gambling.

This is good advice, at least with any of the more legitimate crypto casinos that you'll find here. Legislation is changing all the time, in different countries all over the world, so you don't want to wake up and find out your whole gambling history has been exposed or your wallet has been seized because you tried to hide behind anonymity. There are genuine companies behind these sites and they are increasingly based in Europe or America, which means that they will be subject to all kinds of financial auditing and they are not going to risk jail time or large fines, if it means protecting a handful of people who don't want to share identities. It actually makes them more likely to offer bonuses and promotions as well, because they know there is less chance of "fake" accounts milking them.
hero member
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August 22, 2023, 03:22:30 PM
#64
I have read up on some issues that do arise from not being able to withdraw or cash out winnings from online casinos due to negligence on the part of the player.
Then they come here to start finding solutions on how to cash out their rewards whereas, they failed to adhere to the terms and conditions of which must include a KYC verification for sure usage.

Anyone player who still avoids KYC currently is either new to the system, or is doing so out of curiosity, but not with real intentions of benefitting from the platform on which they registered.

It is definitely a bad idea to pass KYC verification onto later.
It's not necessarily about avoiding KYC altogether, it's postponing such because they either think it's too tedious of a work, or simply something that they can just delay for when they have to withdraw. In my opinion the problem does not lie to the user doing so, after all unless explicitly stated that you'd need to undergo KYC right then and there from the creation of your account, you're not and you shouldn't be forced to perform verification until you feel the need to do so.

Problem is some casinos that you just can't trust are using these KYC measures to either delay users from their money, or literally just block them from getting it. I've heard of news where accounts are banned after following KYC, all because they wanted to withdraw. This is exploitative and is no way something that you can fault to the user.
sr. member
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August 22, 2023, 03:10:24 PM
#63
I have read up on some issues that do arise from not being able to withdraw or cash out winnings from online casinos due to negligence on the part of the player.
Then they come here to start finding solutions on how to cash out their rewards whereas, they failed to adhere to the terms and conditions of which must include a KYC verification for sure usage.

Anyone player who still avoids KYC currently is either new to the system, or is doing so out of curiosity, but not with real intentions of benefitting from the platform on which they registered.

It is definitely a bad idea to pass KYC verification onto later.
hero member
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August 22, 2023, 02:56:12 PM
#62
That could be the case for some, but in my opinion such things are deeply exploitative. People should have the freedom to pass KYC whenever they want. Doesn't matter if it's after winning a large amount of money or not in my opinion. Same with Stake for example. Though allegations and isolated cases come around every now and again, generally they have been very particular and accepting of KYC. You can undergo KYC on or before making a bet, and once you passed it they won't give you any trouble.

It all boils down to whether the casino that you played in is reputable or not. Some casinos are just general assholes that is in it for the money and not for the service of entertainment. Some are not fucked in the head and delivers what's in the tin.
hero member
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August 22, 2023, 02:44:51 PM
#61
There are many casino sites that offer KYC free gambling and allow you to deposit and withdraw up to certain amount without any Kyc verification. so in this case you will not have any problem even if you do KYC later. But when you go to gamble with a big amount you definitely need KYC verification.  But it is better for everyone to play gambling without any kyc with a small amount on a site first and gain experience of that site.  Then if any site seems good and trustworthy then complete kyc then gamble with big amount.  It can be a good strategy to research gambling sites

The problem is that the casino that doesn't requet for KYC will have limit to the kind of games and bets you will play. You can see a casino that doesn't and will never ask you for KYC but they are very strick to the point of kicking you out on suspecting anything, they wouldn't think a second time they don't find you friendly to the casino and they could Limit players that are from particular regions due to regulations and licensed problems.

As for me, my advice is if you must use casino that doesn't request for KYC, please make sure you check their reviews and others experience if it will worth it trying it out and make sure that the game you will like to gamble is a popular one to avoid searching for free KYC casino that you may never see again.
hero member
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August 22, 2023, 02:44:43 PM
#60
Imagine winning and you find it hard to pass KYC, trapping your money on the casino for like ever.
Then I would say it's a foolish casino which doesn't care about its own reputation, besides not having a long term vision of the business.

Imagine how many negative ratings a casino would receive from the gambling community after a gambler shared his experience with proof he provided every asked personal informations to complete KYC procedure, still having it denied by the house.

Maybe this gambler is a whale and will never deposit to play anymore on this platform. Moreover, he will take a large portion of another gamblers to do the same.
hero member
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August 22, 2023, 02:43:24 PM
#59
I don't know where some gamblers are getting their confidence from, do you know that online casinos can keep rejecting your ID after you made some high amount of money? Some people cares about winning first before passing KYC, it's cool you believe that you won't always win but the luck comes when we least expected.

That make sense. A good solution to that is not to exceed the maximum limit of win before they impose a KYC to withdraw your money. It may not always be visible if how much was it, but not exceeding a thousand must be a safer range.
A better solution would be to choose a reputable casino, one that you trust the most and stick playing their then pass KYC before any huge winning happens.
Complying with KYC to a casino is a bit of risky choice, considering how they will handle these data that they have gathered from their clients, and at the same time, it's also an advantage for the casino as they have the right to freeze an account who does not want to comply with KYC. Kind of a bit frustrating for other gamblers who are afraid of the KYC.
legendary
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August 22, 2023, 01:47:33 PM
#58
Submit your identity and wait for approval, do not be in haste to make deposit first, because the identity you submitted without a green approval from the team can still be rejected, take your time to get the passed approval first before proceeding with gambling.
This is valid advice if you don't want to go through the rigorous process of forced KYC. Many people have lost money because of incomplete certification because they couldn't provide the information the casino was demanding after a big win. The casino can give you any conditions if your account has not been approved. Therefore it is important to read the terms of services and get approval for your account before you start any transaction with the casino.

In order for this to not happen, casinos that have KYC should make all accounts pass kyc before allowing them to bet. I've said it many times, I am not a fan of KYC but I do not own a casino.

This is a perfect option for casinos to avoid these withdrawal dramas. But they will not adopt or implement such a policy because it might discourage gamblers from choosing their casino. They pretend not to require KYC to attract gamers and force them to give out their personal information when they want to withdraw or win big.
legendary
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August 22, 2023, 12:45:22 PM
#57
In order for this to not happen, casinos that have KYC should make all accounts pass kyc before allowing them to bet. I've said it many times, I am not a fan of KYC but I do not own a casino.

That would make it more fair for both sides and eliminate a lot of problems that gamblers are facing at the moment:
-no more lying about casinos being no kyc and then the same casinos asking for kyc at withdrawal
-casinos using KYC to delay large withdrawals at times of low liquidity
-casinos forcing KYC on users they suspect on gambling from a banned jurisdiction
-demanding conditions that are impossible to meet by those who undergo KYC, like bills in English.
legendary
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August 22, 2023, 11:18:54 AM
#56
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Submit your identity and wait for approval, do not be in haste to make deposit first, because the identity you submitted without a green approval from the team can still be rejected, take your time to get the passed approval first before proceeding with gambling.

If you gamble at a reputable, licensed and credible casino, things like what you say are very unlikely. although, there is no sure guarantee. however, a reputable and trustworthy casino would not do such things just to affect the bad reputation that could befall them. except, if indeed the data you sent did not pass KYC verification due to several factors. for example, invalid or other documents and so on. that is also why, we must be smart in choosing a casino that has been proven with the reputation they have. at least, for our safety and comfort as casino users.

However, the ideas you share in this thread can be an option so you don't run into problems in the future. However, it doesn't guarantee that in time we might get some problems. there are various scenarios that can happen, it could be purely user error. Or, the casino you choose doesn't have the criteria of being a casino worth trusting. the point is, whatever it is you can do as you say. Most importantly, you have checked the casino you are going to use.
hero member
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August 22, 2023, 10:31:44 AM
#55
Submit your identity and wait for approval, do not be in haste to make deposit first, because the identity you submitted without a green approval from the team can still be rejected, take your time to get the passed approval first before proceeding with gambling.
I think there are still many casinos that do not require KYC at the beginning, especially for small gamblers, for them it will not be a problem, even the average of us playing at online casinos without KYC all runs smoothly in terms of deposits and withdrawals.
Then why are you worried that the casino will reject your documents if sent? There are rules in some casinos always write no KYC but it will be needed if there is something suspicious then we must do if you want to withdraw your money.
So far I don't go with your idea, still don't want KYC even though I have some casinos that have KYC.

If the casinos aren't asking for KYC then I think we should be glad about it because they are not that strict and if you're not doing something illegal to appear on their radar then it shouldn't be a problem as you are not likely to have some difficulties in your activities along the way including your winnings if you chose to withdraw it from their platform. But make sure that it's just a small deposit so that you can skate through their radar without being a threat to them and if you're someone who is a big roller, a reputable and established casino who asks a a mandatory KYC is for you, just to be safe.
donator
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August 21, 2023, 03:10:28 PM
#54
Seems like good advice. Especially if you gamble a lot and expect to have winnings. If you don’t ever plan to KYC then you might find yourself in a stressful situation if you do win, quickly turning a great moment into a miserable experience.
hero member
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August 21, 2023, 02:58:12 PM
#53
Submit your identity and wait for approval, do not be in haste to make deposit first, because the identity you submitted without a green approval from the team can still be rejected, take your time to get the passed approval first before proceeding with gambling.
I think there are still many casinos that do not require KYC at the beginning, especially for small gamblers, for them it will not be a problem, even the average of us playing at online casinos without KYC all runs smoothly in terms of deposits and withdrawals.
Then why are you worried that the casino will reject your documents if sent? There are rules in some casinos always write no KYC but it will be needed if there is something suspicious then we must do if you want to withdraw your money.
So far I don't go with your idea, still don't want KYC even though I have some casinos that have KYC.
hero member
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August 21, 2023, 02:56:46 PM
#52
I don't know where some gamblers are getting their confidence from, do you know that online casinos can keep rejecting your ID after you made some high amount of money? Some people cares about winning first before passing KYC, it's cool you believe that you won't always win but the luck comes when we least expected.

Imagine winning and you find it hard to pass KYC, trapping your money on the casino for like ever.

It's not always the casinos fault, I know some are dubious but the thing is KYC verification is something you should first deal with before making your first deposit.

Online casinos can be frustrating at times, some casino won't accept your submitted document even when you haven't make any deposit on the platform yet, so always confirm your identity first.

Submit your identity and wait for approval, do not be in haste to make deposit first, because the identity you submitted without a green approval from the team can still be rejected, take your time to get the passed approval first before proceeding with gambling.
Well, you are already presuming that you are already making some possible big wins and this is why you have said such thing but we know that it is really still that highly frowned upon on sending out documents just because you are trying out to avoid those situations on pulling up those big wins on the time that you do hit up such condition but we know that it is unlikely to happen but since you had mentioned about probabilities specially on luck games then i could say that its a yes but in overall, you wont really be needing to problem this one specially if you are really  that dealing with a site or platform which is something that reputable and trusted for how many years on which pulling big or huge wins wont really be a hassle or a huge problem just because they are really that paying no matter what. If you are really that a fan on attaching yourself or trying out those new casinos
or not so popular then expect that you would definitely be experiencing these stuffs which it do really sucks.In overall its really that totally highly frowned upon in speaking of KYC and never ever that crypto people
or who do mind about their privacy would really be sending out their information before they would be playing. For sure they would be finding another place for them to play on.
hero member
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August 21, 2023, 02:49:48 PM
#51
I don't know where some gamblers are getting their confidence from, do you know that online casinos can keep rejecting your ID after you made some high amount of money? Some people cares about winning first before passing KYC, it's cool you believe that you won't always win but the luck comes when we least expected.

Can you provide evidence supporting that this case happened on reputable casino aside from the accusations of newbie user here without any proof that they submit the right format ID?

I am also curious, since the casino have list of valid ID to be used in KYC, it is possible that the ID submitted by the player is not on the list of valid ID.  If so then no matter how many times the player submit his ID if it is not the one recognized or required by the casino it will be rejected.

A reputable casino will never do this kind of cheap trick and there’s always an arbitrage platform to handle case like this to prove who’s telling the truth between the casino and players. But I do agree that completing KYC earlier on a casino that you will deposit huge amount is a wise move to save time for verification waiting.

True that, reputable casino have lots to lose if they do this kind of cheap trick.  I believe reputable casino won't compromise their reputation with just thousands of fund.  They are spending more than that in their marketing activities, they will surely will not do things that will tarnish their reputation.
hero member
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August 21, 2023, 02:42:15 PM
#50
I don't know where some gamblers are getting their confidence from, do you know that online casinos can keep rejecting your ID after you made some high amount of money? Some people cares about winning first before passing KYC, it's cool you believe that you won't always win but the luck comes when we least expected.

Imagine winning and you find it hard to pass KYC, trapping your money on the casino for like ever.

The problem with some gamblers is awareness, when they open account in a casino that request for KYC, they may not ask for it initially, Casinos do that to invite people to put money in their custody but I feel it's really bad because it's a trap and gamblers that are not aware of this will think because deposit is working, they can withdraw after winning. The challenge here is that withdrawal button may not function at first and they will think it's because they are yet to deposit but as soon as they click withdraw, proceed to KYC will be the next step that will be required and it very bad, more like trapping players money.

An experienced gamber will look out for any casino they want to use whether they request for KYC or not, I personally ask for opinions and reviews before I use any betting platforms and if they are KYC or non-KYC, it's safe e to use a non-KYC casino than the KYC one because the latter will ask you to even provide additional information if they are suspicious of your activities.
hero member
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August 21, 2023, 02:33:17 PM
#49
OP's advice would've been much better if casinos did not have KYC levels. When you demand KYC to be done from the start they will most likely get you through the most basic verification where you only send your ID to them. It can become a nightmare later on when they demand utility bills, which is something many of us don't have because we rent out rooms and bills are paid by the landlord.

Reputable casinos will not confiscate our funds without triggering their security system.  If their security system is triggered and we are at fault, then no matter how early wes submit our KYC our account will still get banned.  So better to read the terms of service before anything else/

What happens if their system gets triggered and we are not at fault?
What if we win a lot of money and it suddenly becomes worth it for the casino to try to delay us with KYC and blame their security system. Anybody can fake the logs saying you've logged from a different IP.

It's already a norm for casinos to ask KYC when they are withdrawing large amounts of BTC. Once they start asking KYC right after registration, users will already be alarmed for they have no reason yet to submit KYC nor to stay. Gamblers hop from one casino to another hoping for free spins to each.

It's worth it for casinos to delay. So long as they won't get a negative rep from users, they might just delay for months. Its kinda way for casino to ask you to play once again coz maybe this time you'd lost those amount you wanted to withdraw.
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