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Quote from: darkangel11 on August 21, 2023, 02:35:38 PM

OP's advice would've been much better if casinos did not have KYC levels. When you demand KYC to be done from the start they will most likely get you through the most basic verification where you only send your ID to them. It can become a nightmare later on when they demand utility bills, which is something many of us don't have because we rent out rooms and bills are paid by the landlord.

Quote from: serjent05 on August 21, 2023, 01:41:15 PM

Reputable casinos will not confiscate our funds without triggering their security system. If their security system is triggered and we are at fault, then no matter how early wes submit our KYC our account will still get banned. So better to read the terms of service before anything else/

What happens if their system gets triggered and we are not at fault?
What if we win a lot of money and it suddenly becomes worth it for the casino to try to delay us with KYC and blame their security system. Anybody can fake the logs saying you've logged from a different IP.

It's already a norm for casinos to ask KYC when they are withdrawing large amounts of BTC. Once they start asking KYC right after registration, users will already be alarmed for they have no reason yet to submit KYC nor to stay. Gamblers hop from one casino to another hoping for free spins to each.

It's worth it for casinos to delay. So long as they won't get a negative rep from users, they might just delay for months. Its kinda way for casino to ask you to play once again coz maybe this time you'd lost those amount you wanted to withdraw.

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on August 21, 2023, 06:32:38 AM

I don't know where some gamblers are getting their confidence from, do you know that online casinos can keep rejecting your ID after you made some high amount of money? Some people cares about winning first before passing KYC, it's cool you believe that you won't always win but the luck comes when we least expected.

Imagine winning and you find it hard to pass KYC, trapping your money on the casino for like ever.

It's not always the casinos fault, I know some are dubious but the thing is KYC verification is something you should first deal with before making your first deposit.

Online casinos can be frustrating at times, some casino won't accept your submitted document even when you haven't make any deposit on the platform yet, so always confirm your identity first.

Submit your identity and wait for approval, do not be in haste to make deposit first, because the identity you submitted without a green approval from the team can still be rejected, take your time to get the passed approval first before proceeding with gambling.

I agree, but this happen to me in a trading site. They unexpectedly requires their members for KYC, I have my assets in there and now I cannot get it back. From then, I will make sure to read the T&C first and always stay updated because sometimes our valid ID's are not okay with them so we need a backup id in case this thing happen so guys make sure to do KYC if your preferred casino ask you to do so.

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In order for this to not happen, casinos that have KYC should make all accounts pass kyc before allowing them to bet. I've said it many times, I am not a fan of KYC but I do not own a casino.

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There are casinos like stake that don't really require you to pass on KYC unless you're being asked and your transactions had gotten big. So, if you're okay with passing on KYC before doing a deposit, that's fine. But as much as you can see, not everyone is cool with that and that's why they're not willing to submit their KYCs to the platforms that they are up with unless they're being asked for. Anyway, that's a good call if you're going to be asked later then why not do it before they ask you to, right? For some instances, there are users that are being asked for detecting dubious activities and they needed to get cleared through KYC. Although I don't know know on how they're detecting user activities with that reasoning so, better to just comply if you've got funds there and you wanna keep playing on them and also to get your deposit.

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OP's advice would've been much better if casinos did not have KYC levels. When you demand KYC to be done from the start they will most likely get you through the most basic verification where you only send your ID to them. It can become a nightmare later on when they demand utility bills, which is something many of us don't have because we rent out rooms and bills are paid by the landlord.

Quote from: serjent05 on August 21, 2023, 01:41:15 PM

Reputable casinos will not confiscate our funds without triggering their security system. If their security system is triggered and we are at fault, then no matter how early wes submit our KYC our account will still get banned. So better to read the terms of service before anything else/

What happens if their system gets triggered and we are not at fault?
What if we win a lot of money and it suddenly becomes worth it for the casino to try to delay us with KYC and blame their security system. Anybody can fake the logs saying you've logged from a different IP.

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on August 21, 2023, 06:32:38 AM

Submit your identity and wait for approval, do not be in haste to make deposit first, because the identity you submitted without a green approval from the team can still be rejected, take your time to get the passed approval first before proceeding with gambling.

I agree, to have a smooth sailing experience in a licensed casino, if they required us to do KYC first before playing then we should follow the rules. But if it is possible to deposit, play and withdraw without undergoing KYC, then why not?

Reputable casinos will not confiscate our funds without triggering their security system. If their security system is triggered and we are at fault, then no matter how early wes submit our KYC our account will still get banned. So better to read the terms of service before anything else/

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I do agree with this idea and I believe everyone should follow this to avoid problems later on. I know that a lot of casinos wouldn't create issues deliberately when you have managed to win a large amount because they are trusted and has a reputation to maintain, but a lot of platforms wouldn't bother doing that because they might not be that big of a platform so they would try to do anything to save as much money as possible and this would be an easy way for them.

That's why, if you have the option to verify your identity right after signing up and before making a deposit, you better do it once your account gets approved, you can go ahead and make a deposit and start gambling so that you don't face any issues even if your luck works out.

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There are many casino sites that offer KYC free gambling and allow you to deposit and withdraw up to certain amount without any Kyc verification. so in this case you will not have any problem even if you do KYC later. But when you go to gamble with a big amount you definitely need KYC verification. But it is better for everyone to play gambling without any kyc with a small amount on a site first and gain experience of that site. Then if any site seems good and trustworthy then complete kyc then gamble with big amount. It can be a good strategy to research gambling sites

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Quote from: freedomgo on August 21, 2023, 08:48:15 AM

Are you willing to do that while exploring your options on which casino can meet your needs as a gambler? I assume that your answer will be no because identity is a precious thing to us and that keeps us different and unique from any other people, surely we wouldn't do such mistakes where we keep on submitting our identity firsthand while also using a couple of casino. You know, until we can find that casino that is suitable to us.

You have two choices now. Deciding whether to prioritize your money or identity can be a difficult choice to make. That depends on you. Even though you said that if our privacy is a precious thing didn't reject the fact that if casino can frozen our fund anytime. Anyone has their own opinion but it's hard to choose between risking our money or our identity.

Quote from: freedomgo on August 21, 2023, 08:48:15 AM

But if you're inclined to do that, I suggest that you filter a couple of reputable casino and select whichever you want before you start submitting your information to them. That way, it's more safer compared to what I mentioned above.

True but it doesn't mean we are being far away from the risk for our money being frozen by the casino. As long as the casino can be trusted and that's enough. I think that there was no casino that can resist from the data breach.
There possibility is always there even though the security is always being updated.

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The problem is that there are many gamblers who feel like trying several casinos to check whether they are worth the time and depositing on them, and submitting one's papers just to try a casino is such a big hassle. Eventually, people find a platform they like and they continue to gamble without sending their papers, it can be because we all forget about it or plain laziness.

Quote from: aioc on August 21, 2023, 11:18:46 AM

A gambler when playing in a casino will always have a chance to win a big amount of money even if he is not betting a big amount I have seen one guy winning 20 times in a crash game he did not expect this to happen, glad that he's able to withdraw his huge winning without doing KYC.
KYC is always expected even if you're just playing for a small amount of money, so I agree that you do KYC if you have a chance and if you're going to play in the long term.

Was he able to withdraw his wins from the casino without providing additional papers or he had already sent his papers when he signed up in the casino?

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on August 21, 2023, 06:32:38 AM

I don't know where some gamblers are getting their confidence from, do you know that online casinos can keep rejecting your ID after you made some high amount of money? Some people cares about winning first before passing KYC, it's cool you believe that you won't always win but the luck comes when we least expected.

If I am going to use a gambling site and I know the site requires KYC before I can withdraw some particular amount of money, then I will definitely complete my KYC first before I start using it. Anything can happen at any moment, you might be lucky to hit a jackpot one day, and if you decide to complete your KYC then, they might end up rejecting it and you won’t be able to make a withdrawal. But if you try to complete your KYC before you start using the site and they keep rejecting it, then you will get another site where you know that your KYC will be accepted.

Quote from: Crypt0Gore on August 21, 2023, 06:32:38 AM

It's not always the casinos fault, I know some are dubious but the thing is KYC verification is something you should first deal with before making your first deposit.

Some scam gambling sites always use KYC to trap their customers money after winning a huge amount of money. The gambling site will keep rejecting their customers KYC for no reason just because they don’t want to pay the customer the amount won. That’s why it’s better you complete your KYC before using any gambling site, just like you said.

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on August 21, 2023, 06:32:38 AM

Submit your identity and wait for approval, do not be in haste to make deposit first, because the identity you submitted without a green approval from the team can still be rejected, take your time to get the passed approval first before proceeding with gambling.

I learned this the hard way and the terrible experience still stays with me till this day. I had played in an online casino for about two months. During this time I made some wins and was able to withdraw my money without submitting any KYC document. Then one day I had won close to a $100 and was when I tried to withdraw the money, I was asked to submit some documents for KYC before withdrawal. One of the documents kept on getting rejected for almost three day until I submitted another one. It was a terrible experience. Since then, the first thing I do after signing up on a casino is to go to my account profile and submit the necessary KYC documents. And if the documents keeps getting rejected and I think some casinos intentionally do this, I simply sign up in another casino.

That's why it's important to always sign up with reputable online casinos, they won't want to tarnish their image for a few bucks by constantly rejecting appropriate documents for KYC from customers considering how that will endanger their getting of more clients which is no good for business.
But to avoid some dramas completing KYC should be the next move a gambler should make before thinking of depositing than waiting to learn through the hard way. Be it a reputable or those dubious cansinos KYC is easier done and accepted with ease by online casinos when there's no deposit made to the account since there's nothing like funds in there to protect so why the fvck do people keep ignoring.

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Quote from: elevates on August 21, 2023, 09:42:12 AM

LOL! Now OP thinks that his thread would get gamblers pass KYC before even getting themselves accustomed to a casino. Why on the earth a gambler should go through KYC before being able to understand the paltform. I do agree a big deposit before passing KYC can be an issue. What I don't understand why I need to submit my identity document on a casino that doesn't give me a guarantee that it won't be sold. Is there any law supporting a users document would be secure? I and many here have seen how an established casino can dupe it's users. There is nothing that would harm the owner of a casino if he and his team do an exit scam. Then why a gambler would verify himself! Atleast he is still has anoymity and if he wins he would go through the KYC process.

You have a reason but getting yourself accustomed to a very particular casino before completing kyc is what I do not understand. At the glance of every casino website, a real gambler is supposed to be acquainted with the interface. How are you telling about investigating the integrity of the casino before completing kyc. Tou mentioned that they could be scam gambling site and they will have to check your data and do whatever they want to do with it. But I am telling you that it is the same risk be it an old casino or a new one, if you have already submitted their data, you are no longer in charge of the data and you cannot control how they handled it.

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This is exactly what I've always done when I ever I register on a new casino, before depositing my first money there, i make sure to be KYC verified first, I do this for majorly any casino I am serious about using for the long term, but for those I know I probably might not return to play there again, I usually don't bother myself about submitting my KYC document for verification, I will only do this on the account that I win some money and to withdraw it, they ask for the verification, by then, I did be sure and ready to battle it out with them no matter how long it will take for them to verify me and allow me withdraw my money .

One thing I believe is that, a casino that is already set its mind on scamming a gambler wont reconsider that thought even if the gambler had passed KYC verification before he or she made his or her first deposit, because there will always be some other excuses that the casino could come up with outside not being KYC verified, but then again, I still agree that gamblers should endeavor to pass kyc verification on casinos before their first deposit, as this most of the time saves the gambler from unseen problems and future stress.

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on August 21, 2023, 06:32:38 AM

I don't know where some gamblers are getting their confidence from, do you know that online casinos can keep rejecting your ID after you made some high amount of money? Some people cares about winning first before passing KYC, it's cool you believe that you won't always win but the luck comes when we least expected.

Imagine winning and you find it hard to pass KYC, trapping your money on the casino for like ever.

It's not always the casinos fault, I know some are dubious but the thing is KYC verification is something you should first deal with before making your first deposit.

Online casinos can be frustrating at times, some casino won't accept your submitted document even when you haven't make any deposit on the platform yet, so always confirm your identity first.

Submit your identity and wait for approval, do not be in haste to make deposit first, because the identity you submitted without a green approval from the team can still be rejected, take your time to get the passed approval first before proceeding with gambling.

It might be a good idea, but i never failed KYC so i guess i would like to know why wouldn't i be able to pass it? I mean if i have my paperwork in order and i don't live in a restricted area, what are the things actually restricting me from passing. I know i might some day need to provide a source for my income if i am depositing a suspiciously big amount, but i don't think i can do that beforehand if i need to prove the origin.

Are there some actual cases where people haven't passed kyc while being legit users, because i know only those that are most likely just angry because they got caught. And some other cases are being resolved later on.

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on August 21, 2023, 06:32:38 AM

Submit your identity and wait for approval, do not be in haste to make deposit first, because the identity you submitted without a green approval from the team can still be rejected, take your time to get the passed approval first before proceeding with gambling.

I disagree. Does it mean you will do this on every gambling site that requires KYC?

It's like spamming your identity to a platform that you didn't even sure if you will play there for long or will become one of their loyal and regular users.

I'd rather win first before proceeding with KYC, especially for a win that I got from a no-deposit bonus and related promotions. I already have several experiences winning a decent amount in that new account bonus and yes, I faced KYC as part of the mandatory requirements before I can withdraw the win. Sounds hassle and it really takes several days or even weeks before I am able to receive my withdrawal but what matter is, I received the win no matter what.

Even though there are lots of crappy gambling sites out there, I'm sure that a famous gambling site won't ruin its reputation for KYC-related things.

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What if someone plays with not one but many casinos do they need to verify at all the casinos they play at? Not really, right?

Unless you play at one casino and play there often maybe KYC verification won't be a problem and many people do that.
I ask which casinos refuse KYC after winnings? Of course they will look at the documents sent by the user whether it is appropriate or there are still errors in their personal data.

I don't think if playing in a casino you have to do KYC first unless the casino asks for other reasons, maybe we should do it immediately.

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A gambler when playing in a casino will always have a chance to win a big amount of money even if he is not betting a big amount I have seen one guy winning 20 times in a crash game he did not expect this to happen, glad that he's able to withdraw his huge winning without doing KYC.
KYC is always expected even if you're just playing for a small amount of money, so I agree that you do KYC if you have a chance and if you're going to play in the long term.

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Quote from: qwertyup23 on August 21, 2023, 10:59:01 AM

Quote from: Crypt0Gore on August 21, 2023, 06:32:38 AM

Submit your identity and wait for approval, do not be in haste to make deposit first, because the identity you submitted without a green approval from the team can still be rejected, take your time to get the passed approval first before proceeding with gambling.

That is why- if anyone plans on investing in a gambling website, then follow all their regulations and rules to avoid any conflict in the future.

Like it's a complete submission with the gambling platform. It's a matter of trusting the website of your identity. But sometimes, as you know, these websites change their terms and conditions along the year. So there might be changes on the services and policies. So even when you submit all the necessary documents and follow all the rules, they can still do whatever they want as a game provider. It's like you on the matrix, their in control of your participation and your funds.

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Quote from: Westinhome on August 21, 2023, 11:06:52 AM

Quote from: elevates on August 21, 2023, 09:42:12 AM

LOL! Now OP thinks that his thread would get gamblers pass KYC before even getting themselves accustomed to a casino. Why on the earth a gambler should go through KYC before being able to understand the paltform. I do agree a big deposit before passing KYC can be an issue. What I don't understand why I need to submit my identity document on a casino that doesn't give me a guarantee that it won't be sold. Is there any law supporting a users document would be secure? I and many here have seen how an established casino can dupe it's users. There is nothing that would harm the owner of a casino if he and his team do an exit scam. Then why a gambler would verify himself! Atleast he is still has anoymity and if he wins he would go through the KYC process.

The rejection of KYC from the casino site was made by the improper submission of the ID proof or Selfie with the ID.If the Document submitted for the KYC will not be cleared,the casino site had full rights to cancel the kyc and ask to resubmit the KYC.The gambler should take responsibility for the KYC submission,So if any problem.He should resubmit the KYC to the casino and the casino will verify this time without any delay.Because delaying huge time will spoil the reputation of the casino site among the gamblers.

I have not really heard of a casino asking KYC because of the big deposit. Maybe I missed it. Most of what I have read is withdrawing the huge winning causes the casino to ask KYC. There is still a way to get away without submitting. Just withdraw a small amount and still continue betting.

But if there really is no option, then submit the real one. Just make sure you are in a really reputable casino. It's still a bad idea but you get the chance to withdraw the lump sum.

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